UCI & Warner Bros. Discovery Release 2023 World Cup and EWS Calendar

Aug 12, 2022
by Ed Spratt  

After a long wait and many unknowns about the 2023 season under Warner Bros. Discovery we now have a look at the 2023 calendar.

The 2023 calendar features both EWS and World Cups racing across 15 rounds covering 34 races across 10 countries and 3 continents. The season will see fan-favourite venues return alongside some fresh locations. Interestingly the schedule sticks to Enduro mostly being held separately with only two rounds with XC, EWS and DH racing at the same location. There is one round that will feature both EWS and DH racing at a currently unconfirmed French venue.

While the press release headlines 15 rounds in 2023 we will actually only see eight DH races (nine including World Champs), nine XC/XCC races (10 including World Champs) and eight EWS rounds. The whole of July and most of August sees no racing as the press release states a mid-season break was given to riders.

DH

9-11 June - Lenzerheide, Switzerland
15-18 June - Leogang, Austria
30 June-2 July - Val di Sole, Italy
August - World Champs, Fort William, Scotland
23-27 August - Vallnord, Andorra
1-3 September - TBC, France
7-17 September - TBC, France
28 September-1 October - Snowshoe USA
6-8 October - Mont-Sainte-Anne
EWS

25-26 March - Maydena, Tasmania
1-2 April - Derby, Tasmania
3-4 June - Finale Ligure, Italy
15-18 June - Leogang, Austria
24-25 June - Val di Fassa, Italy
1-3 September - TBC, France
7-17 September - TBC, France
TBC - Whistler, Canada

XC/XCC

5-7 May - Valkenburg, Netherlands
12-14 May - Nove Mesto, Czech Republic
9-11 June - Lenzerheide, Switzerland
15-18 June - Leogang, Austria
30 June-2 July - Val di Sole, Italy
August - World Champs, Glentress, Scotland
23-27 August - Vallnord, Andorra
7-17 Septemebr - TBC, France
28 September-1 October - Snowshoe USA
6-8 October - Mont-Sainte-Anne

One aspect of the calendar that does seem a little strange is that DH racing does not begin until June 9. By that point this year we had already seen two World Cup rounds. The press release does say that an effort was made to group rounds together to limit travelling so hopefully, this means we could see better turnouts from international riders. Although as proven at this year's North American rounds grouping a few races together doesn't always mean that privateers and those not on teams will be able to make the jump around the world for racing.

bigquotesThe launch of the 2023 UCI Mountain Bike World Cup and Enduro World Series calendar marks a major step forward in our work to modernise mountain bike, one of our five Olympic disciplines.

With the integration of enduro, and soon also of cross-country marathon and E-mountain bike enduro to the events of the calendar, which already includes cross-country Olympic, cross-country short track and downhill, the events will take on a new dimension, bringing together even more athletes and fans.

We also look forward to introducing new hosts for some rounds while welcoming back traditional venues that have been greatly appreciated over the years. The partnership between the UCI and Warner Bros. Discovery will significantly increase the international exposure for mountain bike, allowing the sport to continue to grow globally.
UCI President David Lappartient

bigquotesFor the first time all major mountain bike formats align on one calendar, giving teams, athletes and fans new opportunities to experience their favourite racing with no date clashes.

We’ve done our best to group venues in close geographical proximity to reduce the season’s travel footprint and increase efficiencies for everyone on the tour. We’ll be hosting new event schedules combining formats that have never been combined before, giving riders a unique new experience and using the very best of the terrain available at each location to provide the best racing on the planet, while of course valued race tracks remain in the calendar.

Calendar classics sprinkled with some new venues - 2023 is going to be an incredibly exciting first step towards our long term plans for mountain bike racing worldwide.
Chris Ball, CEO of ESO Sports

If you are wondering about World Champs it will be hosted at the classic Venue of Fort William for the DH and Glentress for the XC in August.



Original Press Release

- All major mountain bike formats united under a combined calendar for the first time to support the growth of the sport.
- 15 rounds covering 34 races across 10 countries and 3 continents announced for 2023.
- ESO Sports and Discovery Sports Events partnering to deliver the UCI’s new vision for mountain bike.

The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) and Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) have unveiled the new calendar for the 2023 UCI Mountain Bike World Cup and Enduro World Series. The plan unifies all major mountain bike formats under one combined calendar for the first time and will take riders to ten countries across three continents.

As mountain bike enters a new era, riders and fans can look forward to cross-country Olympic, cross-country short track, downhill and enduro, aligning for the first time in the history of the sport. Further details around E-mountain bike enduro and cross-country marathon will be released in September 2022. The new-look calendar will see some mountain bike formats sit alongside one another for the first time, racing grouped by location to maximise sustainability and brand new venues making their global debut, while valued sites keep their place in the calendar.

The reinvigorated calendar was developed by the UCI in partnership with ESO Sports and Discovery Sports Events, two of WBD’s specialist sport organisations.

An enhanced and combined calendar to reflect the growth of mountain bike

With 15 rounds covering 34 races organised across the world, the 2023 combined calendar for the UCI Mountain Bike World Cup and Enduro World Series will see action taking place in ten countries across three continents. Cross-country Olympic and cross-country short track each have nine rounds in total, while downhill and enduro each have eight. As well as brand new locations brought into the fold, established venues will welcome new formats onto their trails.

The new structure will reflect the growth of the sport, allowing each of mountain bike’s different formats to flourish, reach new audiences and enhance the experience for fans both on site and watching from home. ESO Sports, the owner and operator of the Enduro World Series (EWS) and in whom WBD recently invested, will drive the project to globally unify mountain bike and elevate it to new levels, in collaboration with the UCI. Discovery Sports Events, the global promoter and event management leader, is extending its relationship with the UCI to help promote the sport in support of further growing its global audience.

UCI President David Lappartient said: "The launch of the 2023 UCI Mountain Bike World Cup and Enduro World Series calendar marks a major step forward in our work to modernise mountain bike, one of our five Olympic disciplines.

"With the integration of enduro, and soon also of cross-country marathon and E-mountain bike enduro to the events of the calendar, which already includes cross-country Olympic, cross-country short track and downhill, the events will take on a new dimension, bringing together even more athletes and fans.

"We also look forward to introducing new hosts for some rounds while welcoming back traditional venues that have been greatly appreciated over the years. The partnership between the UCI and Warner Bros. Discovery will significantly increase the international exposure for mountain bike, allowing the sport to continue to grow globally.”

Chris Ball, CEO of ESO Sports, said: “For the first time all major mountain bike formats align on one calendar, giving teams, athletes and fans new opportunities to experience their favourite racing with no date clashes.

"We’ve done our best to group venues in close geographical proximity to reduce the season’s travel footprint and increase efficiencies for everyone on the tour. We’ll be hosting new event schedules combining formats that have never been combined before, giving riders a unique new experience and using the very best of the terrain available at each location to provide the best racing on the planet, while of course valued race tracks remain in the calendar.

"Calendar classics sprinkled with some new venues - 2023 is going to be an incredibly exciting first step towards our long term plans for mountain bike racing worldwide.”

Racing gets underway in March with an enduro double-header in Tasmania, Australia, first in new venue Maydena, followed by Derby.

Limburg-Valkenburg in the Netherlands makes its UCI Mountain Bike World Cup debut when it kicks off the cross-country season, with classic venue Nové Město na Moravě in the Czech Republic hosting the second round of the cross-country.

The races come thick and fast in June, with enduro heading to its spiritual home in Finale Ligure, Italy, followed by cross-country and downhill in Lenzerheide, Switzerland.

From here it’s on to a huge week of racing in Leogang in Austria as, cross-country, downhill and enduro all take to the region’s famous mountains and converge at the same venue for the first time. Enduro then heads to Val di Fassa Trentino in Italy, while cross-country and downhill make their way to Val di Sole Trentino, Italy.

July and August will see an extended break from racing, allowing the athletes some time to rest and recover mid-season ahead of the 2023 UCI Cycling World Championships which take place in Glasgow and across Scotland (Great Britain) in August.

Racing then picks back up again at the end of August with cross-country and downhill heading to Vallnord Pal Arinsal in Andorra. All mountain bike formats then come together in France.
The final racing block takes place in North America. Snowshoe in the USA will serve as the penultimate round for cross-country and downhill, before the iconic surrounds of Mont-Sainte-Anne in Canada rounds out the season.

A new vision for mountain bike

As the UCI starts to deliver its new vision for the future of mountain bike, the organisation will seek to utilise WBD’s global scale and media platforms, whilst it has begun collaborating with the two WBD specialist organisations. ESO Sports is working in partnership with Discovery Sports Events to deliver the organisation, media production and broadcast, promotion and commercialisation of the UCI Mountain Bike World Cup.





407 Comments

  • 195 3
 MSA in October? Lol. Prepare to FREEZE!!
Possibly bring ski bikes! Also hoping the late start to the DH season is just a one-time thing.
  • 71 11
 European UCI has no idea that Quebec weather is not the same as europe lmao idiots. I'll have to use my winter camping gear to go hang out at MSA that weekend
  • 33 0
 @swenzowski: Oh we Canadians will be fine.... I'm thinking I'll bring spare gear and open a rental stand Wink
  • 129 1
 @swenzowski: erm, which mountains in Europe do you think have good weather in October?
  • 18 11
 That’s also Thanksgiving weekend in Canada. As much as I’d like to see the race, I’ll be with family and friends that weekend.
  • 23 0
 MSA would be epic in freezing rain!
  • 115 0
 Let's start a new rumor and will it into existence:

DHi starts in June so that Red Bull can have their own championship in the first half of the year!
  • 15 0
 @mashrv1: Valnord would be ok in October I suspect. Not exactly hot, but probably about the same as Fort Bill in June!
  • 47 1
 To be fair, October 7th is near the peak of the colors, so it will certainly be beautiful and different from usual.

Temperature in october at MSA can range from freezing to +25C. I'd says chances are very good to have excellent racing condition. Smile
  • 3 0
 Been there end of September '19 to have a look at the track, It was raining like hell and it was around 10° Big Grin . Guess that's not even the worst conditions there at that time of the year, but the rain alone will be a challenge if it's pissing like that lol
  • 5 0
 @benpinnick: from what I can tell it gets to around 12 degrees max during the day and can be freezing at night, and that’s at the bottom. I’m gonna take a pass, although I bet accommodation is cheap. . .
  • 9 8
 it'll actually be better than the 35+ degree celsius we had last weekend
  • 21 0
 @mrkkbb: maybe throw in some nice wooden bridges to enhance the freezing rain experience
  • 6 2
 @mashrv1: That's summer weather in Scotland! lol
  • 4 0
 @adrennan: only if they're covered in the finest rubber ski matting
  • 1 0
 @tgr9: It was a toasty weekend for sure!
  • 2 0
 Aspens on frosty rocks and roots!
  • 10 0
 @AProulx: you’re thinking too positively. That’s not in the spirit of Pinkbike commenting
  • 4 0
 @sospeedy: just do thanksgiving at MSA!
  • 1 0
 @Jai2skis: honestly, my first thought was "rent a nice cabin for the family..."
  • 8 7
 @sospeedy: Canadians have a Thanksgiving? Like with pilgrims and stuff?
  • 2 0
 @mashrv1: Kind of agree with you, but then the Lousã, Portugal WC rounds in 2020 were on Halloween & beginning of November and they went fine.
  • 2 0
 @mexicanoportugal: good point. Definitely a better location for an early/late race than most European mountain ranges
  • 2 1
 @Jai2skis: This! I think we'll plan for a "The MTB Connection Podcast thanksgiving dinner" event somewhere. Great opportunity to meet other riders and PBers
  • 3 1
 Nahh it will be fine. Just throw on a base layer and maybe a shell for downhill. Most trail centers are open until October 31st and then it's just a question of waiting for snow to groom the fatbike trails!
  • 10 0
 if it means ever better chances for bernard kerr to win, im all for it
  • 7 0
 snowshoe in october can get cold too. but itll be PEAK fall colors too.
  • 3 0
 Will be making camp fires by the track to keep the people warm....
  • 3 0
 @mashrv1: Mount Vesuvius with a light magma flow should be fine.
  • 5 0
 @Thirty3: no pilgrims, but we do have polar bears Wink
  • 5 0
 Wouldn’t want to buzz the back tyre with winter spikes on.
  • 9 0
 @Thirty3: We have our Thanksgiving in October because we have to eat the Turkeys before they freeze to death!
  • 5 0
 I’ve raced MSA in October and it’s BRUTAL!!!
  • 1 0
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: Yeah but is way more likely to be dry on October. It seems like Sept / Oct are the only months it's dry before they start blowing snow.
  • 1 0
 Also sucks because usually when MSA is on the calendar a lot of the riders and brands love to go straight from MSA over to Whistler for Crankworx
  • 2 0
 The fallen leaves will be super slick
  • 3 0
 @swenzowski: most of Europe isn't warmer than Quebec... at least not in October
  • 1 0
 @swenzowski: I doubt the UCI had much to do with the scheduling. They are an easy scapegoat when in reality all they probably really do is sit back, let every Else do the work and let the money roll in.
  • 2 0
 @qman11: totally and no crankworx EWS on the calendar. Seems like they don’t wanna play in crankworx sandbox while red bull is around
  • 2 0
 @Mugen: Sweet Coverage, Rob Warner, better prize purses for the athletes, courses laid out by and consulted with racers.... I heard it will be amazing.... LOL
  • 4 0
 @mashrv1: erm, as a resident of european mountains, the weather is often absolutely glorious in October. Cold mornings and evenings, and then perfect for bike riding all day long. 2020's truncated season where they had bad weather was not typical tbh. Just bad luck.
  • 2 0
 Leaf blowers will replace chainsaws!
  • 1 0
 @abcdirt: For the love of God say it isn't so!
  • 117 6
 Is it really a world cup if you barely leave Europe? No, it's not.
  • 18 0
 I'm from europe, but you're spot on
  • 16 0
 It has been unfortunately the case for many years. I would be hypocrite to complain as this year for ex I could be able to go to 2 WC not that far from my home + the World Champs in Les Gets.
But for guys outside europe, I completely understand the frustration + there's so much to discover outside the "classical" european terrain
  • 213 12
 Is really a World Series in baseball if you never leave the US?
  • 27 7
 @Aksel31: to be selected as a venue, the venues first have to apply. It’s interesting how much people hate UCI as an ultimate top down stuff, and ironically don’t realize they expect the UCI to force people organize some races… common sense people. Common sense.
  • 11 1
 @EnduroManiac: You're not fully right. Willing to host a WC is a thing, applying for it (fees, dossier to be created,...) is a different story. It's not like they just need to say "Hey, we want a WC here !". They need big money, big infrastructure "UCI approved" and (Not sure, just a thought of mine) they need the full support from local administration and authorities
  • 23 1
 As much as I'd love see a world cup DH race in person at Whistler I get that the cost and logistics of going to far flung stops is too big an ask for many teams and riders at this point. Winning a DH mountain bike race nets you what, $5000? Winning Kitzbuehel is over $100,000. I don't think you can judge the mountain bike tour for not being as jetset and glamorous as the ski tour when there just isn't the money in the sport to make to it work the same way.

I can see that Europe makes sense for the riders and teams. Lots of locations that are close together but still in a variety of countries to give different riders and fans a chance to have a "home" race. I think before you talk about adding more remote destinations to the tour you'd want to get the riders to actually attend the ones we have. Maybe get the prize money up for the north american stops to a level where more riders make the trip because right now a lot of them are staying home.
  • 3 1
 @Aksel31: as if big structures and money would be a problem in the USA, Canada, Japan, Australia and many more of the countries that have good riders on the WC scene. Japan doesn't but it certainly has the money in infrastructures as they organised ski olympics, same goes for North Korea, China and many more. But first you need the motivation to do so. How can small countries like France have 2 rounds, New Zealand also and yet USA only one ?
  • 15 2
 But if you have a World Cup on multiple continents then everyone gets upset because it makes it too expensive for the privateers everyone seems to love. We cant have it both ways
  • 10 2
 @tacopop: Thats because World Cup skiing isn’t sponsored by the Ski industry, its sponsored by huge multinational car companies etc because the skiing market is a bit bigger than the mountain bike market
  • 16 6
 @CM999: I’ll bet you more people own mtbs than skis
  • 10 0
 @mrkkbb: don't discount the Blue Jays this year, I'm banking on some games in Canada Wink
  • 8 0
 @Balgaroth: Hang on. North Korea? That would be...interesting!

(I know you meant South Korea. Wink )
  • 10 0
 @Linc: not too many people do biathlon or ski jumping, still these are huge on TV.

It's not important that a sport has many hobby athletes to sell equipment to, it's only important whether there are enough willing to watch the ads shown at the venue and on TV
  • 4 5
 @mab411: Something in the Orient would be really neat.
  • 17 0
 @mrkkbb: Is it really a Stanley Cup if there is nobody named Stan on the team?
  • 3 2
 @CM999: That is not true at this point. Snow ski industries is estimated to be between 4 & 5 billion. Mt Biking is between 8 & 10 billion!
  • 4 0
 @mrkkbb: It's not, same thing for basketball and specially eggball. That's always been a joke to anyone that wasn't born and raised in the US.
  • 3 1
 @CM999: Discovery bought this to "grow" the sport. If they're limiting the riders to 30, then they should help them get to the races and up the prize money to actually grow the sport.
  • 1 0
 @MDW83: true that
  • 2 0
 @Aksel31: I’ve never said it’s by applying that you automatically get it. Otherwise it would not be called an application, it would just be buying it.
  • 1 1
 @mrkkbb: yes because the worlds best competed.
  • 1 0
 Yes because worldwide competition.
  • 7 0
 @husstler: is it really a Super Bowl if you can't eat your cereal out of it?
  • 1 0
 Much like AMA supercross, MLB World Series etc being "world championships" whilst never leaving North America
  • 7 0
 @Darknut: go beyond the equipment though. There’s HUGE wealth all around skiing, the dentist to pleb ratio is way higher than mtb, so big sponsors are happy to pump in the money to help sell stuff.

There’s also a great big inflatable cow at each race. That’s gotta be $1 billion right there
  • 1 0
 @husstler: Why is the grey cup silver?
  • 2 0
 @Balgaroth: Maydena/Derby are in Tasmania, Australia. Not NZ.
  • 3 0
 @tacopop: one logistical hold up on a World Cup being hosted at Whistler is travel time required to get team trucks to British Columbia. Those rigs hold commercial license and the drivers can only drive X number of hours per day. Legally, they cannot get there in time.

A second consideration is national Federations wanting their piece of the pie. Typically only a single World Cup per country is on the schedule because the national racing Federations scream bloody murder about a country having more than one WC race. Having a world cup in MSA and then in Whistler would cause just as much of a behind the scenes ruckus as the MSA/Bromont races a decade or more ago. I can't help but notice, though, that France has two EWS and DH events that overlap, both TBC.

There's also the fact that Whistler has had multiple opportunities to host a WC in the past two decades and has failed to deliver every single time. The two races held at Grouse Mountain 20 years ago, for example, only happened because Whistler was originally on the schedule but bailed out at the last minute. As much as the UCI would love to be at Whistler, they don't exactly trust Whistler.

Additionally to be logistically viable, that would have to be a race on the west coast of the US, too, and I am uncertain of a venue with the appropriate infrastructure this side of Tahoe. Maybe Sun Valley? Maybe Whitefish, Montana.

And then to be financially viable, there would have to be a three-year contract, otherwise no promoter will touch it. Why 3 years? Typically the first year will operate as a loss. The second year will usually see the promoter break even. But the promoter likely won't show a profit until the third year.

Personally, I think we have a better chance of Striking it rich in Las Vegas than seeing Whistler host a World Cup anytime soon.
  • 2 0
 honest question: is there nowhere in the Western US that could handle a world cup DH? Would love to see one live someday
  • 3 1
 @Linc: maybe but there are alot more people skiing that mountain biking. Just compare the lift queues between the seasons
  • 1 0
 @Darknut: but which has more disposable income
  • 2 0
 @mrkkbb: Toronto?
  • 2 0
 @mrkkbb: toronto blue jays.
  • 3 0
 @meagerdude: And the biggest point: Whistler doesn't want to host a DH World Cup lol
  • 3 1
 @Linc: I reckon you are right there. However skiing as a sport has been around for over 100 years mtbing at most 40 years. It’s still young comparatively so it will catch up.
  • 2 0
 @jerseyjinx: obviously the athletes are the world wide part.
  • 2 0
 @matadorCE: why would the broadcaster provide the prize money? RB don’t provide any of it more
  • 5 0
 It’s called a world cup because calling it ‘the cup covering the areas where we can sell our expensive products to people with money and not bother with their other places where they’re not really interested in biking and can’t afford the good stuff” doesn’t quite trip off the tongue the same.
  • 1 0
 @mrkkbb: I always said that too lol. And calling the Super Bowl champions the world champions ‍♂️
  • 1 0
 @Nuss-95: Not sure that's true anymore. You don't build a world cup level dh track if you're not planning on at least trying to attack a world cup. Plus, Vail would absolutely love an attraction to get people to the resort outside of peak summer.
  • 8 0
 Is it really Miss Universe if you never leave the earth?
  • 4 0
 @peterman1234: Winter Park could but they make enough money just running the lifts, they don't need the advertising/prestige, so they don't want to pay the UCI fees.

Keystone could but the owners (Vail) have basically forgotten the bike park. Shame, it's gnarly and they could probably get a good track going.

Angelfire and Durango held WCs in past. From what I've heard, leadership at both places isn't interested.

Having to cut a $100k check to the UCI is an impediment to many of good but smaller parks in the US.
  • 1 1
 There should be at least one race from each continent (including Antarctica)
  • 1 0
 @spuddo: that would make it very difficult for the small teams and privateers. I do think they should be going to one other continent every year other then North America and Europe.
  • 1 0
 @chrismac70: Have you been to whistler in the summer and winter?
  • 1 0
 @Acid11: just summer.
  • 88 0
 So how much are we going to be ripped off to watch the DH in 2023?

RedbullTV, a HUGE thank you for all you have done to grow DH and XCO with your spectacular free to view coverage, you guys/girls are awesome.
  • 16 3
 Maybe someone can pay, and stream it live online for us all to see
  • 73 4
 There’s 8 months between DH World Cup races. Only 7 races and an October MSA. I get the first year is a bit of a transition but this feels like a light schedule and delayed start to allow for more organization time.

UCI “new vision” “modernization” it’s the same venues. No races in South America, whistler, western US, UK/Scotland, Africa, NZ, or Australia. Two races in the same country. Very disappointing.
  • 9 0
 8 WC*. Point stands nothing new on this new vision. Later start and the same venues. We’ll see how 2024 looks.
  • 13 0
 We'll have the World Championships in Scotland.
  • 6 1
 The scheduling is weird but the amount of races (8+world champs) has been pretty standard for years now.
  • 9 4
 But if they have races all over the world then how is the poor privateer everyone seems to love meant to afford to comptete? We cant have it both ways
  • 2 0
 It’s world champs but there is fort bill
  • 8 1
 @CM999: Award continental standings to support and encourage riders on limited programmes? You'd want to have at least 4 races per continent to make it viable, but riders who only compete in one region could be entitled to entry to a competition within the competition (a bit like sprint and climb jerseys in the grand tours).There might be some friction with the European champs, but it enables the higher profile platform to elevate the sport for regions that lack that inter-national structure.
  • 6 0
 @CM999: Get what you’re saying for sure, but with the rumored 30 rider limit for finals, the privateer will likely become a thing of the past.
  • 1 0
 On the bright side if you are paying to stream you are only on the hook for a few months instead of potentially 6-months.....
  • 3 0
 @ROOTminus1: great idea man that would be great for privateers
  • 3 0
 i think we have to give it a chance - for their first year i'd prefer they kept things pretty similar and not too 'transformative', rather than jumping in and just pulling a bunch of levers without knowing what they do.. That said - i'd like to know if the big break in the middle is actually rider requested, or was just some fluff words to explain away the logistical gap..
  • 1 1
 @ROOTminus1: fine. Who is going to pay for it
  • 1 0
 @Div-NZ: I would say the latter. I don't recall ever hearing any riders calling for a mid season break. They usually talk about a desire for more races, not a 6 week gap bang in the middle of race season.
  • 1 0
 @Div-NZ: that break will be appreciated since the 1st half has someback to back racing.
  • 3 0
 @chrismac70: I'm just an enthusiastic fan with aspirational ideas, I'm not putting together a manifesto to oust Lappartient. Though if I was I wouldn't greenlight the Euro track champs to be run on a temporary velodrome 20% smaller than a standard track.
  • 2 3
 @jason3559: let’s wait and see what reality rather than rumour is
  • 40 0
 "that's all folks"
  • 42 3
 and no one will watch the events because you'll have to pay
  • 148 1
 We want Rob Warner, not Warner Bros!
  • 6 0
 @korev: does Rob have a brother?
Would be a fun race commentary for sure, just give each a six pack of beer to enjoy while racing... Done!
  • 3 0
 @Phipu: Yeah, Rich Warner used to race back in the day too Big Grin
  • 5 1
 An article in the NYT announced that they would have a free, ad-supported streaming service coming soon. Maybe too optimistic, but hopefully it'll be showed on that?
Either way, going to miss Rob. Fingers crossed for Eliot.
  • 14 0
 No Rob no Cup
  • 8 1
 @Davichin: honestly I've never heard a commentator from any sport better than Warner. He fires you up when the action is getting good that I've just never seen from anyone else.
  • 3 0
 @korev: The sad part is we'd pay for Rob Warner
  • 42 9
 Unpopular opinion: Maybe things will turn out to be amazing. Give it a chance. Venues that host all the disciplines will have to be on fire. All the riders and teams in one spot.

I for one am really looking forward to see al other changes after seeing this calendar. All ready crossed out the Leogang dates for next year.
  • 14 1
 I'm staying optimistic, too. Though very pessimistic anyone can replace Warner. I hope Elliott sticks around. I've really been enjoying his commentary. I don't see him being able to focus an audience like Rob does, but his sense of humor and especially his thorough, granular knowledge of track mechanics have been awesome.
  • 11 0
 Yeah it'll be either straight fire or a dumpster fire. Unfortunately my guess is the latter. Rider experience will likely not improve by adding Enduro to a DH/XC stop. The town's infrastructure is usually already pretty maxed out. But it'll definitely maximize profitability for the event organizers by doing it this way.
  • 1 0
 @mab411: I agree
  • 2 0
 @Lanebobane: That could be a problem, yes. As there are only 2 of these in the calendar, maybe they have looked at this with the organizers and thought this through. But also maybe not. We'll see.
  • 10 4
 Yah I am trying to stay positive here as well. The Redbull site is kind of a pain to navigate, people have complained about the coverage of races forever (never enough track in it, no cameras at some of the new sections or tough sections, etc).... but now that a new company is coming in its all complaints about that too. Who knows, maybe discovery will have better coverage, maybe worse, but we can only hope it'll be better.

With regards to scheduling, I remember this year there was a lot of grumbling at the start of the year about the scheduling. Things like how stupid to be in France so early, conditions will be shit of course, there's a 3-4 week gap between each of the first three races, riders had a month off of racing.. why not just push the start of the season back so we aren't there so early. Now they did, everyone complains about that.

So far the biggest downside I can see is no Rob, which does suck the big one, but everything else has a decent chance to improve IMO. It's the first year with them taking over, it's not going to be perfect from the start.
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 @mab411: They will likely bring in a professional broadcaster to lead the commentary. I think people underestimate how hard it is to do that stuff. There is a big difference between the lead commentator (the role Warner fills now) and the analyst they are partnered with (Elliot, Tracy, Claudio, etc).

The lead guy had to essentially run the broadcast. He does most of the talking, controls the flow of the commentary, transitions in and out of the none live segments, etc. That's a learned skill that Rob had admittedly worked hard at. You can't just throw a random rider into that lead role. They do fine as the secondary analyst because they are mostly taking their cues and questions from the lead guy.

This is the standard format cross almost all sports. Look at the NFL, its always a lead announcer who is generally someone trained in broadcasting like Joe Buck, Jim Nance, Kevin Burkhardt, Al Michaels, Mike Tirico, etc who are then paired with an "analyst" who is most often an ex-player like Aikman, Collinsworth, Romo, Greg Olsen, etc.
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 I love EWS and DH, but the head-to-head competitiveness of XC is super exciting. Why doesn't the XC circuit include Whistler???
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 @sino428: so a professional like the speed wheelie guy from rampage?

It’s going to be a joke dude.
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 @rrolly: Whistler maybe aren't interested? Venues need to be interested, but I agree 3 XC rounds in Canada/USA would be fabulous.
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 @mab411: Eliot is defo out. Said on downtime podcast MSA was his last world cup as commentator
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 @nvranka: IDK who they are going to get. But it cant just be some random rider who every thinks would be cool to listen too.

It may very well suck at first because realistically there just arent going to be many professional broadcasters who are familiar with DH racing. But listening to an untrained broadcaster try and work through a broadcast would be just as bad.
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 Would you all think that maybe it's not even choice Discovery made to not bring Rob along? Maybe it was out of their hands?
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 @GumpiDemo: it may not have been. I believe Rob is under contact with Redbull. He does other events for them besides WCs.
  • 3 0
 Came here looking for this comment. Redbull has been great for DH, and I thank them for the coverage. Perhaps moving to a mainstream media organization will increase viewership? And maybe (now Im dreaming) increased viewership will increase salary for riders.
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 @mab411: agree 100%. Elliott is a PERFECT color commentator. So much knowledge
  • 30 2
 Two f*cking WC in France and non in South America, Africa, or Australia!! That’s ducking bullshit!!
  • 31 1
 Not that I want to add to your rage.....but Andorra and Switzerland are at driving distance from France too.....
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 @Bitelio: Depending on where in France you are, they can be walking distance.
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flag CM999 (Aug 12, 2022 at 6:14) (Below Threshold)
 Thats so the privateers everyone seems to love can afford to go. If it was truly global then the privateers would never be able to do the series. Which do you want?
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 @CM999: I mean do you think there are zero privateers outside of Europe that would love to race the World Cuo circuit? I'd rather give more riders across the globe a chance at participating than financially limit it to Europe based riders and teams
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 @daceto817: privateers only come from France, don't ya know?
  • 4 0
 @tvan5: Yeah, probably why the Denim Destroyer had to quit...
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 You forgot about Antarctica
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 @CM999: Unfortunately true. Harsh, but true.
  • 4 0
 @tvan5: otherwise it is just sparkling mountain biker
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 @daceto817: no of course there are. But trans Continental flights are expensive so the cheapest setters is the one that does the least. What the point of having privateers if there were 2 races on each continent then none of them could afford to do it
  • 2 0
 @chrismac70: maybe extend the season, add a bunch more races, and make it a 'top 5 or 6 results' type of deal? That way those who are able to go to every race can do that, but those who aren't can pick and choose the ones that are easiest to attend. I also saw mention of a potential "continent champ" series to determine the best racer on each continent, which would be interesting and offer a goal that's attainable to those who can't travel out of country
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 @daceto817: fine I would love to see more races. Who is going to pay for it all? Are there enough venues who want to and have the resources to put the race on? I have no idea
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 @Theysayivebeentheone I was hoping to see the XC Racers return to Stellenbosch, South Africa. That was a cool track and a great prelude to the Cape Epic. Maybe next year.
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 @Augustus-G: A race in SA would be good to "line up" with the European races to stop the riders getting messed up by jet lag
  • 22 2
 They seem so pleased to be combining dh, xc and enduro. Am I the only person who sees this as a step backwards? The sports are nothing alike. Imagine if WB bought motor racing and announced "we have combined the schedules for Rally, F1 and Moto GP!" It would be a total shit show, all three sports would suffer. The only winners would be the board members extracting money from a sport they give zero f*cks about.
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 Exactly!!
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 They've done it to make it easier for themselves, all this shit about modernising and aligning is just fluff.
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 The schedules of so the major sorts event are deliberately planned not to clash with each other. F1 golf, tennis, big football tournaments are all planned not to clash do each can maximise sponsor exposure
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 @chrismac70: As far as I can tell football is on every single weekend of the year? I can't imagine they care that much what F1 and tennis are up to either, but I do get your point.
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 @chrismac70: Moto GP and F1 often race on the same weekend. 7 clashes in 2022. The last F1 race of the season falls on the same weekend the FIFA World Cup starts. Those are the only 3 sports I've looked at, plenty of major sporting events clash.
  • 19 1
 so the WC DH season starts 2 and a half months later than it did this year? And theres an entire month missing from the EWS calendar? anyone have any idea why? is there something else going on event wise next spring, or trying to avoid wet spring weather in Europe? Or maybe its unknowable and has no logic. And the whole month of july off? I think its better to space races kinda consistently with some time off spread around. That keeps people from getting run down, gives time between races to heal injuries. Think about an injury that takes a month to heal. Depends on when in the season that happens, a racer could miss 4 races, or they could miss 0. Thats stupid.

also, anyone have any idea what the French venues will be?
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 Might be Châtel. I've seen posts from Flo Payet / Deanos talking about the French Cup held there this week, with "maybe bigger things" in the future. It would be weird to have both Les Gets and Châtel though, maybe there will be another venue outside Les Portes du Soleil...
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 maybe Chatel, Dean Lucas/Bikepark Chatel posted something like "and even bigger things are coming" with the French Cup this weekend.
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 strange schedule
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 Chances are high it's gonna be Les Orres. They habe a sick new track for Worldcup pupouse on which they gonna host French nationals in September and they already said they wanna host a worldcup. Plus ews has already been there in 2019 I think (Eddie won there) , which would be perfect for a combined dh enduro event.
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 @Aksel31: Thanks for the info! i didnt realize those were in the same region, i suppose it could be viewed almost like a doubleheader like the enduro in tasmania.
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 @nwphotography: Could be indeed, Les Orres is relevant for the slot combining EN and DH
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 @reo-driver: bring back chatel mountain style.
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 @nwphotography: Valberg also fits and they were making the same noises last month at their round of the French DH cup
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 @Aksel31: Race in both Les Gets and Chatel, one pit for both in Avoriaz, still better logistics than this years Andorra Big Grin
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 I thought that to have the 'world cup' name they couldn't have more than one event in a single country?
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 I guess that METABIEF will be a venue. Sick track!
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 July is Tour de France; that's when Eurosport/Discovery goes all out with coverage...Now they run the world of MTB, they've decided to avoid clashing. That is my theory....

I know most on here won't give a flying f**k about road cycling, but that takes all the media interest - why run any major MTB races at the same time?
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 @Starch-Anton: Because racing isn't supposed to be about media interest, it's about racing bloody bikes.
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 @gabriel-mission9: Thats really not true though. Everyone is always complaining about how the riders are treated, how much they are paid, etc. But as a sponsor driven sport, media interest really is one of the most important things. Without it the riders get no exposure which is what drives their value to sponsors.
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 @gabriel-mission9: you do realize that every sport is business?
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 @gabriel-mission9:
No offence, but how naive are you? Who do you think pays for racing bikes, or streaming the races. Sponsors, businesses want media interest to sell their products....
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 @Starch-Anton: yeah thats a good point. I mean how much overlap is there though? Like i really dont see the same names writing about and photographing the tour that we see here. Some overlap, sure.

I think perhaps Discovery doesnt have the resources to cover both and figured that this would be a good way to arrange things for maximum benefit to themselves. It seems like alot of these corporate sales and take overs are a company coming in and promising things that they cant and have no intention of delivering. Thats how it is in my line of work anyway.
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 @Starch-Anton: I think you've hit the nail on the head
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 @gabriel-mission9: it’s about selling bikes. The racing is all funded from the marketing budget.
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 @Starch-Anton: we the punter pay for all the racing. Some of what we pay for products finds its way into the marketing budgets that fund this. I agree with your point. It’s about getting media exposure to sell more stuff
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 While I definitely understand the frustration that the DH WC only goes through Europe and North America, The fact is that the UCI can only consider locations that apply and are willing to pay the exorbitant fee for hosting a UCI race. Perhaps new and unique locations are unsure if they will see a good return on their investment and don't put in an application. It would be interesting to see how many applications the UCI receive however.

I was in Kenya for a wedding in April and shiiiiiiiiiit, there is some truly incredible terrain there. I would absolutely love to see the WC go and race in the Rift Valley area.

Business is business though and the almighty Dollar/Pound/Euro/Peso/Rand/Riyal/Rupee will always win out
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 I saw a documentary on the XC racing scene in Kenya and those guys can absolutely rip. Everyone knows Kenya and Ethiopia have world-class marathon runners - gee I wonder what would happen when you put those guys on XC bikes?
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 I mean, could the UCI relax the fees/requirements for less developed ones that are otherwise desirable?
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 @IsaacWislon82: Sure, but yachts and villas don't buy themselves you know...
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 @IsaacWislon82: So like Affirmative Action for bike races? But to be honest, yes, it should happen.
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 @IsaacWislon82:
UCI are holding the 2025 road worlds in Rwanda, so not adverse to idea.
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 The UCI's Business Model was based on La Cosa Nostra.
It's basically a Shakedown Racket. Wink
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 In other words, eight months until everyone realizes they took RedBull's coverage for granted.
  • 18 1
 Hey guys? Did you hear there's a new vision for mountain biking with Enduro, cross country and downhill all unified?
  • 61 1
 Downdurocross
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 @sjma: Don't Give PB anymore ideas of made up terms
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 @sjma: thats why I put a dropper and a wide range cassette on my Wilson Smile
  • 3 0
 @sjma: Crossdown counduro
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 @Aksel31: or c*ntduro Big Grin
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 We call it “riding bikes.”
  • 7 0
 hey, you arent being inclusive of downgravel
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 @sjma: So its an XC hill climb to start. Get to the top, switch to your Enduro rig and traverse down a valley and then back up a transfer stage climb. At the top of that awaits your DH rig ready for full-blown pinner race run to the bottom!
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 @sjma: E-DownduroXcross
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 Thinking like a cynical, profit-driven C-suite exec, my assumption is they stacked most of the races from June-on to take advantage of the WB/HBO-Discovery streaming merger that's supposed to happen around that time. After securing the mtb rights from the UCI for tens and tens of dollars, two egg-laying chickens, plus a timeshare stake in a helper-yacht based in Saint-Tropez, WB gotta snag all the ROI available.
  • 6 0
 Mountain biking is so low on the scale when it comes to something the size of the HBO Max/Discovery+ merger that I would find it hard to believe it was even considered when planning the schedule.
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 @sino428: Agreed, fully. But the UCI *did* get those egg-laying chickens out of them, soooo...
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 I think it was the best they could do. My guess they were going for ten events for each discipline. Didn't work out. It's spun to the general public as a success.
  • 2 1
 I think it’s more likely that discovery are wanting to show the giro in May and the tour in July so don’t want to have mountain biking on at the same time
  • 13 0
 With overlapping Enduro and DH schedules, will this be the end of some riders doing both? Not sure schedules will allow unless enduro happens mid-week.
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 They specifically mention 'no clashes' so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt currently
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 @thingswelike: Lol... there are Enduro and DH races scheduled for the same weekends... how is that not a clash?
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 @bonkmasterflex: DH is moving to one-day racing blind, so it's all good.
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 @bonkmasterflex: Looking at the dates, in Leogang they run from Thursday - Sunday, so it's possible depending on the schedule.
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 @Starch-Anton: The 1st unconfirmed French round runs from the 1st to 3rd of September, hosting EWS and DH. To my mind that would make it impossible for a spectator at the event to watch all the enduro stages and to watch qualifying and the DH race. Let's be honest, they aren't doing this for the fans, they're doing it to make it easier for themselves logistically, regardless of what bullshit Chris Ball might be trying to peddle.
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flag chrismac70 (Aug 12, 2022 at 15:48) (Below Threshold)
 @commental: so no clashes like last weekend when the dh and ews were both on in Canada about as far apart from each other as you can get
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 @chrismac70: You're comparing apples to oranges. Next year it's the same company organising the calendar and broadcasting events. Not the case this year.
  • 15 1
 Holding snowshoe during the school year is going to make it much harder for many fans to come at such a remote event.
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 Fwiw, they held the '19 edition the weekend after Labor Day weekend and still the place was packed. I think turnout will be good.
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 @scottmcpeek: that was also the first American World Cup in years. I drove 6 hrs one way in the middle of the night watched the xc race, partied, and drove 4 hrs to Pittsburgh. Attendance was down last year compared to the year before. Maybe partially cause double header, but I was at the double header and not many where there during the week. The weekend however was snowshoes most successful summer event ever.
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 What is "CYCLING"?
  • 12 0
 Roadies do "cycling" ugh
  • 5 1
 It's a French word for you got fucked
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 Everyone’s complaining like this is any different than this year’s schedule.

Yes, ”world cup” could cover more world. But the venues are almost the same, there are 8 races + champs, Europe US CAN spread. I’m sure we’ll see more over coming seasons.

Keep in mind the more there are continents, the less we see privateers doing serious racing through the season. If the teams have to fly four continents, even they might have to drop a rider or two.
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 Actually looks like a good roster considering all the doom and gloom leading up to this point. I'm happy to buy $5 per race event if the coverage is better than what it is now. Hopefully the qualy numbers isn't slashed like it rumored to. I think that's possibly the worst thing for the growth of the sport.
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 I wouldn't mind a price tag to be added to these races, very much worth it in my opinion. I think we've been spoilt with free broadcasting for so long and as much as I get the upset around this, good things don't really come for free. And even if they do, you're probably the product, especially in this age of digitization. The quali number rumours are indeed concerning for the sport, I agree. Listened to the 50to01 guys take on it and it could affect up-and-coming or ambitious riders.
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 I'd support a cut roster of pro teams only if there was a b race (similar to F1 / F2) on the same weekend, televised, to allow up and coming / other riders the chance to shine for the next years contracts. Surely a podium on the B race would do more for your image / marketability then 35th in the current WC?
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 @mattyb84: I was thinking of something similar too if they cut the main event to 30.
  • 4 0
 Good luck getting the option to buy access to any of the 2023 season in Australia or NZ, according to this article we won't get their new streaming service till 2024. www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/300659770/a-streaming-service-full-of-hbo-content-is-coming-to-new-zealand-whether-sky-likes-it-or-not
Also, seems very convenient that the season starts after the merger, stops for TdF and track/ road world champs then restarts. Our brave new future seems to involve embracing skinny tyres and lycra during the prime northern hemisphere reaching season...
  • 6 1
 Way to go... MSA in October, lets have a late (last) race of the season where its going to be miserable on a bike... during that time of year, lol.... if this is how Warner / Discovery are going to handle this - my faith is lost in their ability to comprehend the sport in general. Surely UCI was of no help.
  • 5 0
 Presumably the resort had some say in this and decided it would be good, no? I mean their image is at stake.
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 most bike parks in the northeast are still open at that point. Bolton/killington make it to mid/late october and highland goes to mid november. Given i know its a bit farther north but I ride in northern vermont usually until december. It may be colder but its easily in the range of the season.
  • 2 0
 MSA in late Sept/early Oct can be absolutely amazing. Falls colours at their peak and good moist dirt. It can also be absolutely miserable ... early fall, the leaves are all gone, and its a grey, wet, slip and slide. Quite the gamble, but if it works out, it could be top notch. Also, it's Canadian Thanksgiving that weekend, so that might affect the fan turnout in some way.
  • 5 0
 There was an article on Vital that showed an internal document (since removed) from Discovery. Within it there was mention of a test event in Europe in February. Maybe they scheduled it so they could see how riders would fare when racing with hypothermia.
  • 7 1
 No Tweed valley EWS!? Hopefully this is only because the World Champs for XC/Dh are there (and no such thing exists for EWS). Hopefully back in 2024!?
  • 5 0
 EWS calendar is shit, missing Tweed Walley, Petzen, such cool venues/tracks from this year I think
  • 2 0
 Need to give those trails a break I think.
  • 1 0
 My hope is this is not the final EWS schedule, although with 8 rounds it probably is.
  • 1 0
 @allmountainrider81: as much as we love those venues, you do make a very valid point.
  • 7 0
 Looks like we are going back to no Enduro east of the Rockies and west of the Atlantic Ocean. Lame.
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flag sjma (Aug 12, 2022 at 6:14) (Below Threshold)
 No enduro race in the world capital of mountain biking: Bentonville, AR?

Give it two years. Viathon will finally get that EWS podium
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 They should just make snowshoe an ews too the trails are so there
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 @sjma: Bentonville, AR defo not the world capital lol
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 Agreed, east coast of North America has tons to offer and showcase.
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 @sjma: lol where in Bentonville is there enough downhill for an EWS?? Also, it's not even close to the best place to ride east of the Rockies, nevermind the world.
  • 2 0
 @jaytdubs: best riding in the US is east of the Rockies
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 @sjma: ha I see you were being sarcastic now
  • 7 3
 I personally think it's going to be a Discovery shit show next season! Redbull could really step up & take over Mnt Biking broadcasting completely if they have the balls to do it. Make their own DH/XC series that directly conflicts with the UCI, have big prize money to lure the racers & get Rob Warner on board. It would be a slam dunk!
  • 2 0
 Fine in theory, but running a rival series isn't going to work. Governing bodies don't like it, and make life difficult. However, run something different, so a Hardline series, that runs alongside the World Cup....
  • 5 0
 @Starch-Anton: for downhill governing bodies are useless. They only care about Olympic sports. I think there could be a case for Redbull and Crankworx to create their own series of races with the DH on Sunday and slope style on Saturday as the showcase events.
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 @Starch-Anton: well, the Red Bull TV comentators crew could at least live stream their "reaction" comments so we can mute the crappy Discovery commentators that will surely have no idea what's going on
  • 1 0
 @Starch-Anton: This is about LIV golf, isn't it?
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 @Starch-Anton: Not necessarily. When Freecaster were looking at setting up DH1 and running it alongside WCDH the UCI sanctioned it.
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 @Starch-Anton: Money trumps all .. Redbull can afford it
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 @Darknut: clearly they can’t or they wouldn’t have lost the contract. RB only bids what they determined was the most it was worth to them in extra sales of tins
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 @chrismac70: I don't this it was Redbull couldn't afford it I think it was a decision. Look at the money they spend in Formula one. The biking stuff is chump change compared to that.
  • 5 0
 With such a late start there is potential to promote other races earlier in the season. It would be cool to see a full cadre of pro's racing IXS, US, UK series and some more exotic locations that don't have WC races.
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 @singletrackjamaica this times a million. Nice big gap in the middle for other events as well.
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 Prepare to freeze your a**** of for the world cup at MSA.

What a stupid decision. Ice, snow, mud and frozen mud.
  • 2 0
 Could be a nice fall weekend. 20C and sunny would be ideal racing conditions. Could also be 0C and freezing rain, which would also be cool in it's own way, albeit dangerous.
  • 4 0
 You have to think adding a third North American stop would encourage more riders to make the trip. Surely they could find a venue between Snowshoe and MSA (Bromont?)

Though maybe not in October...
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 I keep crossing my fingers for a Killington stop.
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 Washington is pretty good in October
  • 1 0
 Exactly - if you want the top riders to come across the Atlantic, make it worth their while and run a few races. 3 should be the minimum - and into October isn't ideal, though starting in May, it's not a long season, especially with a big gap in the middle of the season.
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 Whiteface in NY?
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 Then there needs to be a venue that OSS prepared to step up and organise an event to the right standards
  • 6 0
 Scrap Lenzerheide and get the Swiss round back to Champery... it's what the people want!
  • 2 0
 DANNY STAY ON YA BIKE!
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 What's not mentioned is the cost to have a "team" now. It was 3k to officially have a team registered, and it's going up to 20k per team. It's been said by those in charge they want to turn mtb racing into something closer to F1 racing...more bigger dollar teams and less small teams and privateers. They also want a significant amount more WC races around the globe, making it impossible for the smaller teams/individuals to gain any kind of points standings due to the cost of travel to all the events.
  • 3 0
 OK, I cannot say I'm impressed, it is a bit of a mess, yes the world of "Euro-centric" mountain biking is finally unified kinda sorta. We get 2.5 dates where we get MTB festivals (XC + DH + EWS together in the same place)

But the calendar is a bit off, no NZ round in EWS after the Tazzy rounds... but two rounds in Tazzy within a week, it is sort of great but also isn't a bit excessive!? Then nothing for EWS riders until June so back to training for them or racing their national or regional series. Then, in June, we finally get DH on the road!! until October at MSA, for my birthday, which is both kinda awesome, but if the weather decides to not play ball, also terrifying; the colors of the fall at MSA are a thing of beauty but if it rains and freezes, I will understand if a majority of riders decide to skip the final round of the season on security/safety grounds.

Then for me, it is more about what's not on this calendar or what should not be on the calendar. As I said no NZ... Rotorua could have been a perfect place to launch the season proper with a MTB festival but at Minimum Nelson for an EWS round should have made the cut EWS could have facilitated the transport. No brazil, in XC which is disappointing after this year showing the race was fun and riders appeared to like it, I don't know if it was good financially but it was nice to have another "continent" in the show. No western United States, no Chile... I get it, organizing an MTB event is not exactly a money-maker thing except that it can be. not for the organizer himself but the town/region generally enjoys a spike in tourism that hotels and restaurants can do with. France and Italy get two rounds each... I know why... but then really!

Finale Ligure is not the final round of EWS... Yup nope! I can't deal... it is in the Name Finale Ligure. it is just awesome terrain and I am certain that it could host all disciplines for a late-season MTB Festival.

The race block strategy is trying to be good but it is not. Some European riders will still skip the north american rounds, while Americans, Australians and others still have no choice but to set up shop in Europe for 5 months or so. It is still not great. Maybe this is a necessary evil for ESO don't change things too much in year 1 of the deal. but so far I see no reason for them to hike the price up based on the calendar.

Now I'm curious to see if Redbull and/or Crankworks will propose an alternative series of 4/5 events
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 The DH track used at Crankworx in Rotorua is pretty shit by WCDH standards, there are certainly better places for a DH race in NZ.
  • 2 1
 How is this worse than this season that started in June, has the same number of events and isn’t ending the season in finale either?
  • 6 0
 Guess South Africa would have to slip a proper fat brown envelope below the table to get some races again…
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 The extended two month break sounds like they were planning for more rounds but didn't get locations to bite in that time period. My guess they were going for 10 rounds for the DH calendar. More events, more broadcasts, more advertising, more resort fees. When it didn't happen the way they envisioned it was spun into a break for the racers.
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 It’s because they will be focusing on the Tour de France for July
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 It could also be noted that XC marathon, which is also in the broadcasting and organisation agreement between Discovery and the UCI is not in the schedule. It seems that the category has been « killed » by Discovery…
  • 2 0
 They say they'll release details about XCM later.
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 @MDW83: nope. In a mail sent to the XCM hosts last week, UCI and Discovery indicate that « UCI Marathon Series will be stopped by the end of 2022 ».
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 @Armand74: really? In their announcement today it says "further details around ...... cross-country marathon will be released in September 2022"

It's a real bummer if they kill it.
  • 2 0
 It's certainly different - and a late start for both DH & XC. What happened to Albstadt? So the rumour about Valkenburg mentioned by Bart was true......

And it's easy to bash the UCI, but they're no longer in charge of organising events. Everything is run by the new Promoters, they charge the hosting fee, the calendar.....etc

It's exactly how most motorsport series operate; the governing body just makes sure rules are followed, everything else is run by promoters.
  • 2 1
 Why don't the riders and teams tell the uci/discovery to do one and sort their own tour with red bull
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 @nxtowns: because neither the teams or rb organise any of the events. The teams show up and race and rb do the filming.
  • 5 0
 the current EWS coverage is crap. THis years redbull coverage has been superb.
  • 5 0
 What is the point of coming to North America? Snowshoe again? No EWS in USA? Burke and Sugarloaf one and done? Lame.
  • 3 0
 Interesting that the Whistler EWS round is not scheduled until potentially the third week of September. That suggests that it will no longer be happening in conjunction with Crankworx.
  • 2 0
 I still don't get why Discovery bothered. They are in the middle of a messy merger with all of the Warner Media content and busily reducing the HBO content. I guess sports content is sports content, but it's a shame that this happened, even worse if it happened before all of the mess and now it'll end up being a true trash fire.
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 "The partnership between the UCI and Warner Bros. Discovery will significantly increase the international exposure for mountain bike, "

Sorry but I think it will be more like :

"This feed is not available in your country"
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 NO FORT BILL?!
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 World champs is there next year
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 @sourmix: oh thanks for this. my disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined.
  • 3 1
 world champs
  • 6 1
 No NZ enduro rounds.. stink, Nelson would be ace!!
  • 2 0
 For sure. The organizers seemed crushed when it was canceled this year and I assumed it was just being pushed to 2023.
  • 4 0
 Good to see the UCI have seen sense and done a deal to get Rob AND Rich Warner on board.
  • 3 2
 Finally! I understand this is a transition-year with last minute planning. Really looking forward to the rounds with all disciplines present! Still waiting on some final decisions on presenters and concrete descriptions on how to watch though.
  • 4 0
 Will Vallnord listen to the complaints and put the pits near the finish line, and get rid of those silly bridges?
  • 1 0
 I have read that alot of that has to do with construction in the base areas. They may have done the best they could with what they had to work with.
  • 1 0
 I just hope there are some tight races for the XC overall winner, otherwise you'll have a lot of big names skip the North American rounds (again). Unless they want to see what it's like riding an XC course on a fat bike in snow...
  • 4 2
 European World Cup lesssss gooooooo. For real though can we please stop going to middle of nowhere Snowshoe and get some West coast rounds. Or anywhere in Asia, or South America, or Oceania...
  • 2 0
 Why can't they do an DH WC in Aus or NZ? lots of good riders from there but they have to travel half way round the world to race a World Cup, also guaranteed good weather at the start of the year.
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 They can; they just have to pay the hosting fee to ESO/the promoters....One guesses there are no venues with the money to host.
  • 4 0
 I’ve got a feeling we’re going to be hearing a lot more of ric McLaughlin!
  • 1 0
 Really hope that this year’s World Cup at Fort Bill wasn’t the last one that it will host. I can understand why there isn’t one there next year with the World Champs being hosted, but not having a World Cup at the Fort would be a shame.
Looks like my road trip to the highlands next year will either be in August, or I’ll go earlier and just enjoy riding.
  • 1 0
 I wonder if they will ever have a world champs in Canberra Australia again!!!! That venue is iconic with the legendary Steve Peat winning his one and only highly priced world champs jersey by point nothing over his Goat teammate Benjamin Button !!! LOOK AT THE TIME !!!! missing Warner and Elliot already
  • 2 0
 How bad for DH riders next year:
Looong wait until June, then 3 races in 3 weeks.
Imagine a rider hits the deck in the first race and needs to recover 3 weeks - half of the season already over...
  • 5 0
 "A new vision for mountain bike"

Eff that
  • 1 0
 We will see how race one looks for DH. The rest of the dates might prove irrelevant if no one’s watching.
Shame NZ isn’t back in the EWS calendar. We didn’t need to cancel that. Could have been great to see a regular stop here. Oh well
  • 1 0
 Have a listen to the Downtime Podcast with Martin Whiteley (Part 2 for the info about next season)

Apparently Discovery/ESO are going to film the Juniors in DH and Under 23 in XC. Pay Per View will be available if you want to watch without adverts but it will also be on Eurosport.

I'm a lets see what happens kind of guy before I start getting upset about change and Martin does seem to know what he is on about.
  • 4 0
 Finally I can get rid of my excel docs
  • 4 0
 Warner Bros but no Warner
  • 2 0
 I just hope that now that there is a break, we’ll see more riders marking the trip across the pond. It was disappointing this year.
  • 1 1
 Anyone hear anything about the LIV DH Series? Heard a rumor that the PIF was going to invest in a rival DH and possibly an Enduro series as well. With the average age of golf fans aging rapidly, starting a DH and Enduro series is the perfect way to show younger fans that Saudi Arabia is a progressive and forward looking place.

They already have a huge offer on the table for Gwin and are trying to sign as many of the top 30 as they can. Huge contracts but still less than what Phil Mickelson loses gambling in a weekend.
  • 1 0
 We need to get a DH race back in SoCal if they are going to schedule one in October. Weather should be perfect that time of year. Cool in the morning, but nice in the afternoon.
  • 1 0
 Races are grouped together. Races almost every weeks with a 2 months break in the middle. Rider injured at start of the season or during races after world champ will be out of WC title as will miss several races.
  • 4 0
 The only Warner we need is ROB WARNER!
  • 3 0
 Why would you have two enduros in Aussie and not come to NZ? You’re all the way down here already…ridiculous
  • 4 0
 I'm surprised they aren't going to Nelson, you would've thought there would be a race there after the last one was cancelled.
  • 2 3
 Because no one wanted to organise it and get the funding needed to do it?
  • 4 0
 @chrismac70: would be very surprised if organisers in NZ weren’t chomping at the bit to make this happen
  • 4 0
 @coney: True, also NZ govt has put $8mill in to Crankworx so surely s few bucks spare for EWS? Big tourism boost + I presume the Nelson guys may be able to get all the plans for the cancelled 22 event out of mothballs?
  • 3 0
 @OldButBold: fully eh. You’d be mad not to. Every council in NZ would jump at the chance now it’s possible. Perhaps the border wasn’t opened quickly enough for these guys to risk it…*sigh*
  • 1 1
 "The partnership between the UCI and Warner Bros. Discovery will significantly increase the international exposure for mountain bike, "

Sorry but I think it will be more like :

"This stream is not available in your country"
  • 3 0
 Are we going to see any XC'ers show up in Enduro field at Leogang (the single shared weekend)?

Maybe Koretzky? ...Jolanda?
  • 1 0
 No EWS dates in Latin America, you could have an earlier start of the season by adding dates in countries like Colombia, Chile, Bolivia, Ecuador or Peru. I think the UCI should not overlook MTB development in those countries
  • 2 0
 can't see all that many willing to pay to view also are they reducing the number of dh riders?
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 They only broadcast the top 30 now so what’s the difference?
  • 3 0
 @CM999: Anyone who qualifies top 60 can win.... thats the difference. It will be a massive loss to the sport to reduce the field to 30
  • 1 0
 In one of the Downtime Podcasts, Chris Kilmurray mentions that next season is unlikely to change with the amount of riders getting through to finals as its too soon to make the change and they will likely bring the change in for 2024. This also gives ample opportunity for another race provider to build another race series.
  • 2 3
 @gabriel-mission9: They can but when did it anyone outside the top 30 qualifiers actually win
  • 4 1
 @chrismac70: Did you actually watch the last two f*cking races? Cos it really doesn't sound like you did.
  • 4 2
 a shame more races aren't in the USA.. Vail, Mount Snow, Mammoth, White Face, White Fish...
  • 3 0
 Ah, I here TBC in France is lovely at that time of year!
  • 3 0
 DH starts mid june?! way too late!!!
  • 3 0
 Has the trophy of nations been quietly binned then?
  • 1 0
 Holding EWS trophy of nations in Whistler may prove tricky, maybe they will pause it for a year.
  • 2 0
 "Unified". Except Australia, which as we all know has no DH tracks and no racers. Sam who? Troy what?
  • 3 0
 Imagine calling Canada America
  • 3 0
 Discovery is gonna muck it up
  • 2 0
 This is so stupid, you have 3 World Cup DH races and then World Champs.... Makes zero sense.
  • 2 0
 Its always been like this. I could never understand why World Champs isn't at the end of the regular season!!
  • 3 1
 @Istillneedstabilisers: I've always felt the real world champ is the overall WC winner. That seems more impressive to me than one single race, especially considering that one single race happens within the WC season.
  • 2 0
 @Istillneedstabilisers: Over the last 10 years World Champs has been the last race 5 times. It always made sense to me to make it the last event so riders could put it all on the line. Hard to do that when you've got one eye on the overall.
  • 1 0
 @commental: I feel exactly the same! The real champion should be the Overall Winner and then the World Champs Winner!
  • 2 0
 @commental: Agreed. Champs should absolutely be the last race of the season. It's the only schedule that makes any sense for the sport.
  • 2 0
 What’s wrong with Tahoe or Mammoth? They might be on fire but it’ll be dry!
  • 2 0
 Which is the problem...too fn dry.
  • 2 0
 Pretty sure they can bid to host if they want to. They don't want to. Plus way too dry. Bad dirt.
  • 2 0
 Maybe Redbull will do an early southern hemisphere DH tour with real prize money. Maybe tie in Some Urban DH too
  • 1 1
 Tell me you don’t care about hosting races at Whistler, Snowshoe, and MSA without actually telling me you don’t care about hosting races at Whistler, Snowshoe, and MSA.

Expect the last 3 rounds to get cancelled.
  • 2 0
 I was really hoping and praying for more DH rounds. And the first race in June WTF . Massively disappointed Frown
  • 2 0
 Kiwi's - Has the Nelson EWS round been dropped for 2023 or just not televised? EWS website has no 2023 calendar on it.
  • 2 0
 2nd Canadian stop at Mont Sainte Anne is sweet
  • 12 0
 In October? Bring a fat bike, and your thermals lol.
  • 4 1
 @dazlad: we ride dirt in the Rockies into November, it's not a sport for fair weather riders
  • 1 1
 @map-guy: Oh I know, should make for some interesting racing. Less dust and more wet rock Big Grin
  • 1 2
 @map-guy: “it’s not a sport for fair weather riders” lmao, no one cares what you do, racing is best with good weather. Especially at MSA. period.
  • 4 1
 TL;DR
  • 1 0
 uci shucks
  • 2 0
 Looks like dh is not important when you look at the schedule.
  • 1 1
 Unlikely, but it would be cool to see riders double-dip DH and Enduro at the rounds that overlap! Bring in bicycle trials again and lets see who the real best bike rider is!
  • 2 0
 Would love to see Red bulls calendar
  • 3 0
 Bring back Durango!!!
  • 2 0
 World champs mid/early race season….EW.
  • 2 0
 saw “Warner” and got excited then immediately sad again
  • 2 0
 Man, when EWS went to Columbia and Chile...felt like a true World Series.
  • 1 0
 Nah bro, not until I see a round in Scandinavia, India and taiwan
  • 3 0
 Funny how the exotic locations ended as soon as Chris Ball got the UCI involved.
  • 2 0
 Huge gap between Val di Sole and Andorra.
  • 1 0
 I like how all the sudden it's uci warner brothers discovery and outside. This promises to be a shit show run by UCI
  • 1 0
 Do we know is discovery is going to allow all media in the pits and track walk?
  • 2 3
 This is a very bad day for Pro Down hill racing, as we used to know it. Discovery is going to turn DH racing in to another version of Gold Rush. This is going to suck for the racing fan and the racers. RIP UCI DH!
  • 1 0
 A straight pumptrack race and now a WC race in Valkenburg, The Netherlands? Strange and disturbing this is...
  • 1 1
 No Fort William and nothing in South America or Africa. The not so world cup continues.... TV coverage details please?
  • 4 0
 Take a look at where next year's world championship is Wink

I completely agree about the lack of African (and Asian) rounds though.
  • 1 0
 world champs in FW.
  • 2 0
 It's a money thing like it has always been.
  • 1 0
 Fort William will host the World Championships, no WC next year.
  • 1 0
 So EWS en DH same day, same location?
  • 1 0
 No Maribor?! FTW? Discovery, really….again….
  • 2 0
 Rob Warner, Brothers
  • 1 0
 So dh has July off. Strange
  • 1 0
 I missed a memo, when did "DH" become "DHI" and what is the "I"?
  • 3 0
 Individual. Been that way forever.
  • 2 1
 I was hoping for a Whistler DH world cup…
  • 1 0
 Rob Warner has a brother. We got the wrong Warner Bros.
  • 1 0
 Finally, we get our two rounds in Tassie!!
It’s going to be epic
  • 1 0
 It's still not a true world cup unfortunately.
  • 1 0
 No Antarctica EWS? Pathetic.
  • 1 0
 San Romolo dh cup for xmass
  • 1 0
 Great, where the heck do I watch it? maybe I missed something??
  • 1 0
 I’m always shocked they don’t include XCE & XCM.
  • 1 0
 New stop for XC tho
  • 1 0
 8 DH + champs
  • 1 0
 first race june??? ;(
  • 1 0
 We want Xmas DH
  • 2 0
 In Cairns
  • 1 0
 No EWS in NZ Frown
  • 2 2
 Only 6 DH races?
  • 1 0
 Oops I see 7
  • 2 0
 Oops I see 8
  • 1 0
 I count 7
  • 1 0
 I missed a couple as well, but there are 8.
  • 1 0
 It's OK, PB clearly can't count them either.
  • 1 4
 why is there no racing in the UK?
  • 4 0
 World Champs are at Ft Bill, no Enduro though
  • 3 1
 Fort Bill is hosting world champs in 2023
  • 2 0
 @mashrv1: XCO/XCC is at Glentress.....
  • 2 0
 @Starch-Anton: oh yeah, forgot they split it. Rumour was that it was just the marathon going to GT but you’re totally right
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