UCI Threatens to Impose 'Disciplinary Measures' on Licensed Riders Who Compete in FIM eMTB Series

Apr 5, 2019
by James Smurthwaite  
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The UCI today has released a statement which expresses its "surprise and disappointment" over the recent announcement of an FIM e-MTB race series and has threatened to punish any racer that competes in it.

Cycling's governing body has already sanctioned a number of e-mtb national championships, integrated ebikes into its rulebook and awarded the first ebike World Championships to Mont Sainte Anne later this year. As such, it "wishes to make it clear that E-mountain bike (electrically-assisted mountain bike) is one of the disciplines under its auspices."

The FIM, the International Motorcycle Federation, has also planted its e-mtb flag by announcing its own ebike series last week that will be run alongside motocross GPs starting at Imola, Italy, in August. The FIM claim they will be able to draw a crowd of 20,000 and will stream the races live to MXGP-TV.com and to their Facebook MXGP Page that has more than 2.5 million followers. Read more about it here.

Double Olympic Champion and five-time UCI World Champion Julien Absalon took the win at the maide UCI sanctioned E-MTB French Nationals in 2018 FFC - Patrick Pichon
Julien Absalon winning the maiden, UCI sanctioned e-mtb French Nationals. Photo UCI/Patrick Pichon

Both governing bodies are aiming to use the same Class 1 limited ebikes and both are also applying World Cup status to their events, bringing them into direct competition.

The UCI apparently notified the FIM in September 2017 that it considered e-mtb events to come exclusively under its jurisdiction however, this does not seem to have stopped the FIM creating its series. When interviewed, the FIM said it did not anticipate any conflict with the UCI however, the UCI has now said that events registered on the FIM calendar or those of its member Federations will be considered “banned events” and any UCI-licensed rider participating in one of these events will "risk disciplinary measures".

bigquotesI am delighted by the boom currently enjoyed by E-mountain bike, a specialty that enables a new public to take up mountain biking – a demanding discipline – and which is also appreciated by high-level riders. The UCI means to develop this activity which, as with other forms of cycling, comes under its exclusive jurisdiction.”David Lapertinet, UCI President

With both factions set to tussle for ownership of ebike racing, it's clear that motorized bicycles are a valuable proposition. We'll update you with any news as the racing season gets underway.


Full Statement

The Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) wishes to make it clear that E-mountain bike (electrically-assisted mountain bike) is one of the disciplines under its auspices.

E-mountain bike is firmly entrenched in the cycling family: numerous well-known bicycle brands produce bikes used by enthusiasts of this speciality, and several National Federations affiliated to the UCI have already organised National Championships for the discipline, won by specialists of mountain bike cross-country Olympic (XCO), such as France’s double Olympic Champion and five-time UCI World Champion Julien Absalon.

To encourage the development of this popular activity among cyclists of all levels, the UCI integrated E-mountain bike into its Regulations (Part IV: Mountain bike events) on 1 January 2019 and awarded the 2019 edition of the UCI E-Mountain Bike World Championships to Mont Sainte-Anne (Canada) which will organise the first edition of this competition in August as part of the UCI Mountain Bike World Championships presented by Mercedes-Benz. Events, several of them grouped under the WES E-Bike Series, have been registered on the 2019 UCI Mountain Bike International Calendar, and a UCI World Cup and Continental Championships will be organised from 2020.

In the light of the strong development of the discipline, the UCI was very surprised and disappointed by the announcement made by the International Motorcycling Federation (Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme – FIM) concerning the organisation of an FIM E-Bike Enduro World Cup in France on 1-2 June, with no regulatory basis.

The UCI had already notified the FIM in September 2017 that it considered E-mountain bike events to come exclusively under its jurisdiction and that the respective roles of the two International Federations (UCI and FIM) were clear and would not be called into question.

The UCI Regulation, approved by its Management Committee in September 2018, stipulates that an E-mountain bike’s electric motor must not exceed 250 watts and that pedalling assistance is permitted up to a maximum speed of 25km/h. This definition corresponds with the applicable European regulations (EN-15194), which gives an unequivocal definition of a “pedal cycle with pedal assistance” (cycle equipped with an auxiliary electric motor having a maximum continuous rated power of less than or equal to 250 W, where the output of the motor is cut off when the cyclist stops pedalling and is otherwise progressively reduced and finally cut off before the vehicle speed reaches 25 km/h).

The UCI wishes to announce that events in domains under its exclusive jurisdiction that are registered on the FIM calendar or those of its member Federations will be considered “banned events” in line with its Regulation. Consequently, any UCI-licensed rider participating in one of these events would risk disciplinary measures.

Commenting on this subject, the UCI President David Lappartient declared: “I am delighted by the boom currently enjoyed by E-mountain bike, a specialty that enables a new public to take up mountain biking – a demanding discipline – and which is also appreciated by high-level riders. The UCI means to develop this activity which, as with other forms of cycling, comes under its exclusive jurisdiction.”

Meanwhile, double Olympic Champion and five-time UCI World Champion Julien Absalon declared: “Electrically-assisted mountain bike is a new challenge for me. I won the first French Championships and I cannot wait for the UCI World Championships in Mont-Saint-Anne in September. In 10 years’ time I will be able to say, “I was there!” Electrically-assisted mountain bike is an extension of cross-country Olympic. It’s good that bodies such as the UCI take new practices seriously. The manufacturers, athletes, and public are there. The electric bike is a social phenomenon that contributes to the development of our sport. It is great that it is also recognised at the highest level.”

Francesco Di Biase, organiser of the WES E-Bike Series said: “We join the UCI Mountain Bike International Calendar for the first time this season with several rounds. We are expecting a very high-level field of international athletes. We are very proud of this recognition from international bodies and intend to continue working hand in hand with the UCI for the development of electrically-assisted mountain bike.”




288 Comments

  • + 460
 Perfect. Let the moto guys keep the e-bikes.
  • + 69
 this is a loose-loose situation, I'm affraid.

On one side f*ck it, mopeds belong where the things with a motor/engine are, not the UCI.
But also, MX have more audience and they'll be more popular under FIM than thry'd be under the UCI.

Also, I won't waste an ocassion to say how much UCI sucks Smile
  • + 163
 Can UCI riders still watch porn at least?
  • + 132
 I propose a duel to the death. Preferably both parties die off and mountain biking can be free of both the UCI AND E-bikes in one go!
  • + 115
 This article is totally skewed. It should have also included the full official response from FIM, the International Motorcycle Federation. which is as follows:
"Dear UCI, bite me."
  • + 15
 @dobermon: what's this 'porn' everybody is talking about recently?
  • + 5
 @dobermon: all i know is 'nothing'.
  • + 6
 @dobermon: Not in England unless they buy a card and prove they are over 18
www.wired.co.uk/article/porn-block-uk-wired-explains
  • + 74
 I'm not an ebike hater. There are places they should be allowed and the opportunity to self shuttle is sweet, but ebike competitions just seem .... stupid.
  • + 2
 @smithcreek: please say there is a source that confirms this!
  • - 4
flag rickon (Apr 5, 2019 at 10:47) (Below Threshold)
 @ismasan: Don't be afraid, it's just an eBike.
  • + 27
 “I don’t always ride mtb, but when I do, I prefer, e-mtb.”

—Every single UCI official
  • + 85
 @natepage1: fixed it for you:

"I don't actually ride bikes, but I love being a pretensious prick about regulating those that do."

—Every single UCI official
  • - 12
flag SillyTorque (Apr 5, 2019 at 11:14) (Below Threshold)
 @dthomp325: with that logic ...all motor racing is stupid
  • - 6
flag H3RESQ (Apr 5, 2019 at 12:11) (Below Threshold)
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: your a dick* dick* (you're)
  • + 53
 @SillyTorque: I disagree. Racing e-mtb is stupid. Race motocross or race mtb, hell, race both. E-mtb is this gross grey area where people want to go faster than their fitness will let them, but still want to be "bikers." Just seems kind of lame. People who ride e-mtb because of a medical condition? Now that is a different story.
  • + 11
 I support FIM having it over the UCI because they are a more professional organization that could bring in bigger sponsors and run it better. Just reading this story makes me want to boycott watching any UCI races but I can't miss World Cup DH.
  • + 17
 Yeah really, an assisted bike is not a bike, let’s get real, it’s already walking the line bringing bikes into the forest. Now let’s put a motor on them and see how long the trails stay open. Mark my word, e bikes will close trails.
  • + 3
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: thx my man, english is my second language and still some words... you know
  • + 9
 Wait, April 1st already passed. So confused.
  • + 3
 Any self respecting cyclist isn’t going to pretend to ‘race’ with a motor on board. Leave that to the motocross crowd if you’re into that thing. A manufactured spectator event that combines human power with electric motors seems out of place with the purpose of biking in general, so doesn’t belong under the governance of a cycling body. That said I agree with UCI; you’re either a cyclist or you’re a motor-cyclist.
  • + 10
 @zachyc: The minute your first riding buddy with an e-bike shows you they got 3x the dh you got in the same amount of time, you'll figure out they aren't lame, and aren't for people that just "want to be called bikers." There are plenty of e-riders that have ridden acoustic longer than the haters, are in better shape than the haters, and shred the dh faster and with more steeze than all the haters. They just ride e-bikes now because they've always, only ever been in it for the stoke of the downhill, not the spandex mindset that you aren't a rider unless you love uphill.

for many riders, dh wins for stoke, hands down, so if you want more of it, e-bikes aren't lame, they're the most badass improvement to mtb yet. And in 10 years, the vast majority of all the haters and curmudgeons will be saying, "I can't believe these things used to not have pedal assist!"
  • + 1
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: PBs most commonly misspelt word!
  • + 2
 @ranke:
1. if you need and engine you're in the wrong sport
2. quantity vs quality? pushing a 20+ kg hog or a nimble 13 kg? Anyway, can I chose or I'll have to rely on your choice of quantity vs mine? Ask you're wife for clues.
3. if they're in better shape and "shred" faster, why the engine? maybe you're in the wrong sport (again I enfatize).
4. spandex is everywhere in all part of biking, just in different shapes. But yeah, if you're into cycling and BICYCLES you either embrace that fact - that it's human powered - or call it another thing, add an engine, create another sport. No one forced you to do it, you can always pick golf, or swimming. Don't change the rules because you can't adapt.
5. and once it for all, it's not hate or about haters it's an opinion - probably a opinion that you might hate to hear. That's life. Stop running away from arguments and call others haters, its kinda childish and spoiled.
  • + 3
 @ranke: exactly. And all these people saying you can't race them: why not? Why can't you make a course with technical climbs and fast challenging downhills? They do that on motos in the Enduro GP. This website is a self licking ice cream cone of ebike hate coming from people who have never ridden them, yet they have no problem doing laps at a bike park. And it's mostly Americans, as I've found out the pinkbike ebike articles are geo-blocked in America lol.
  • + 10
 @t-stoff:
1: don't need, want. And why wrong sport? Are you that critical of bike parks and shuttling downhill bikes? Even if so, "wrong sport" still makes no sense. You're saying it's not allowed to have it's own sport?
2: Prove to me the quality of riding an ebike is worse than the quality of a "nimble" bike. I've ridden both and the ebike is more planted and prefer it. Don't like it, don't ride it.
3: So you can't be in good shape and ride an ebike? And again, what is this nonsense of "wrong sport" lol
4: It is called another thing: "e-bike." Still have no idea what your point is besides hate for something you have no knowledge of.

Your arguments make zero logical sense, along with all the other ebike hating that's going on. All of you will be riding one in a few years once you've been on one and realize you can do 3x the distance and thus become a better rider (repetition is the key to learning) in shorter time on one.
  • + 6
 @Squeakybb: dude it's not hate, it's an opinon, if you fail to understand that, how can you understand the rest?
Lack of logical sense?

1. It's the wrong sport, I'm sorry to say, because you know, bicycles are human powered. Where did you read you're not allowed to have its own sport? You do, just don't call it what it isn't.
By the way, who mentioned lifts, shuttles or downhill bikes? They're like a really small fraction of all the bike riding done in the whole world. I've never been in one and I've been MTBing since the early 90s.
A bicycle doesn't have a motor -> FACT
2. Quality over quantity -> is it a sin? I don't have to prove you anything, as I've said, it's an opinion, don't hate if you don't prefer my choices. I'm just stating it.
3. You can be in good shape, I just fail to understand why the engine when you need it to "do more", "go faster", "don't shuttle" or "use lifts". We're you in shape in the first place? Guess not.
4. I'll say it again, every point is explained and based on my opinion (just like your post has yours and I don't call it hate to bicycle riders like me), again, it's not hate. If it was hate I would say "burn them all", "ban them from the trails", "I don't care what they say, they should disappear".
That's hate and you won't find a single line like that in my posts.

keep riding, keep whatever you want, just don't call it mountain biking because it fundamentally isn't and this FIM / UCI just proves it.
  • - 1
 @ranke: exactly right.
  • - 9
flag Squeakybb (Apr 6, 2019 at 5:00) (Below Threshold)
 @t-stoff:
1: ebikes are human powered. And it's called "ebiking,"which I already told you. Furthermore, why does what it's called matter? What difference does calling it something else make? Call it "not real mountain biking" if you want, doesn't change what it is. Semantics.
2: you're the one making the claim that the "quality" is better in some way. I'm telling you it isn't. Yes it's an opinion, but yours isn't based on experience thus it's an ignorant one.
3: why the "engine" has already been covered. You can cover 3x the ground in the same time with an assist, thus more stoke and progressing faster at the sport.
4: don't know what "rules" you were referring to in your original post, but it's called ebiking and it is becoming another sport hence UCI and FIM fighting over who "owns" it. Still have no idea what point you're trying to make here. Yeah everyone has their own opinion, but that doesn't mean opinions can't be based on ignorance and fallacies, which yours are.
  • + 7
 @Squeakybb: Fallacies because I don't agree with you? It's funny that you started by pointing fingers to haters, and you have no problems assuming that my opinions are based on lack of experience. Are they?
Have you noticed that I haven't made a single remark on what you are, what you do, and what are your experiences with this or that? It's the little diferences, you see. You assume to much for a reasonable conversation, argue more with arguments and less ad hominem.
Ah, and if there's an engine, some one has to actuate it. So human powered? By that logic so it's my car! ;D
  • + 8
 Both eMTB series suck equally and hopefully will kill each other off Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill style.
  • + 6
 @ranke: your mentality will destroy trail access if it takes hold at all. I ride mostly for dh but still appreciate earning my turns even though my fitness doesn't allow nearly as much vert as I would like. Using the word "steeze" makes your mindset crystal clear but to most, cleaning a technical uphill is just as "rad," "bro." To draw a line between Lycra guys and people like yourself is stupid. There are plenty of people in the middle that enjoy it all but we all require trail access. FYI most of the Enduro racing community in my neck of the woods considers the addition of an ebike race class this season as running the Special Olympics right alongside the regular ones.
  • - 4
flag h8ts2pdl (Apr 6, 2019 at 8:25) (Below Threshold)
 @t-stoff: "Ask your wife for clues" ??? Seriously?? and you actually think that idiotic remark is NOT childish or stupid, when it's actually BOTH! Grow up, master the language, then post...you'll be glad you stopped embarrassing yourself, and so will we.
  • + 4
 Did you read this? UCI is keeping ebike races and if you compete in one they dont put on, you lose (loose) your license.
f*ck UCI in the Bee hole
  • + 1
 @t-stoff: You're saying things that are false, thus a fallacy, whether or not it's an opinion. You can have flawed opinions. Ebikes are human powered. Your car example is not a synonym. Calling it The "wrong" sport, besides making no sense, implies the "right" sport is (I'm assuming) mtb... Why? Ebikes aren't racing against mtn bikes so what's your point? What "rules" are being changed? You haven't addressed any of my points.
  • + 0
 @ismasan: I was going to say this is like that meme with the cartoon super hero sweating over which button to push — UCI is the Devil or Ebikes are the End of Civilization.
  • + 3
 @silvbullit: destroy trail access based off of what? I ride bikes a lot of the same places I ride my motorcycle (in the US). No issues at all. "Earn" your "turns"... Why is everyone so obsessed with "earning it" since these things were invented? Why do I have to earn it? I don't earn it at a park or shuttling. If you want to do more laps get an ebike. Most climbing in the pnw is on fire roads so nothing technical there. And ebikes capable of clearing steeper more technical lines than a pedal bike, all else being equal. In reality, they make the climbing more enjoyable.

There's a lot of ignorance surrounding ebikes and none of it is based on facts. I get land access issues but once regulators determine where they can and can't be what will it matter? The best trails aren't sanctioned to begin with, and I'm willing to bet most of the people who claim it will shut places down ride illegal trails. I've been reading the ebike hate on this site since the beginning and, if you're honest to yourself, you will see none of it is based on truth or objectivity.

The fact is we ride bikes because it's fun. Ebikes allow you to ride much further in a given timeframe. They also fatigue you less so if you have the time, you can ride longer also. That's a fact. 99% of the hate is from people that don't own one. You wanna do 10k vert on your weekend ride without a car/lift, get an ebike. You wanna do 1/3rd of that, keep earning it.
  • + 4
 @h8ts2pdl: hey, do you really think that I'm embarrassed for expressing in my 4th language? I don't. That's right, it's not even close to perfect, I'm just trying my best.
And yes I stand by that remark. For me bikes are like sex, and in sex quality is always better than quantity, and if you think that is childish, try picture a grown up man pointing fingers to a foreigner trying to express in a different language than its own. What a hero.
  • + 0
 @silvbullit: My mentality won't destroy trail access. Yours will. You're the one who sees a problem with it. People who agree with you are the ones who see a problem with it. People who fear change are the ones who see a problem with it. Those are the people responsible for trail closures. Trail closures are enacted by people who have, or believe they will have, negative experiences with the groups they're trying to exclude.
Class 1 Ebike riders (which is what we're talking about here; pedal assisted bikes) are no more likely to ride like idiots downhill, than acoustic riders.

Aside from that- and the fact that most people session downhill sections, not technical uphills, which is why lift assisted bike parks are a thing, and uphill technical bike parks are not- my mentality is the same as yours in most respects I would guess. Riding my bike has been, and will always be, a huge part of my life. It's my sanity. Where we differ is that I take advantage of a new technological advancement that allows me to ride significantly more downhill, (as politely as an acoustic rider) in the same amount of time, than before. And I love riding even more now because of it. 3 or 4 times a week has become 5 or 6.

And maybe I am being a little stupid by labeling the ebike hating mentality as "spandex," but the only people who seem adverse to the idea of pedal assisted bikes are the ones who choose to die pedaling up a semantic hill by implying ebikes and their riders are not bikes or bicyclists, and that somehow, pedal-assist riders are responsible for the end of trail access, or are threatening the idea of bicycling as we know it. Fear of change, fear of the unknown, is what causes it.
  • - 2
 @Squeakybb: well said.
  • + 1
 @chainspotting: more than breaks/brakes???
  • + 2
 @Mac1987: absolutely!
  • + 1
 @ranke: Or i could just ride my 450. And be a man.
  • + 1
 @Muckal: haha sorry about that. Sometimes giving props via a mobile proves to be a difficult task... Wink

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  • + 0
 @rjohnson450: if you were a man you'd ride a 2T
  • + 1
 @yetirich: oi mate, you gotta license fo that?
  • + 2
 @ranke: Exactly correct. My experience: I had an hour to ride Monday/Tuesday. On Monday, rode one lap on a local loop, finished in 45 minutes. Had fun. On Tuesday, rode a Levo, did two laps, had more fun. I had a HR monitor on for both days. Monday, had more anaerobic HR, with some time spent around 160bpm to recover from some steep sections. With the Levo, was steady at 172 the whole ride, rode twice as far, and actually burned more calories (based on HR and ability to ride the full 60 minutes). Depending on what your training is focused on, Tuesday might even be considered a better training ride...
  • + 1
 Anybody read the press release that the FIM is barring riders from participating in UCI sanctioned events? Oh that's right, they did not do that, only the UCI managment are the douchebags here.
  • + 204
 Who does the UCI think they are? If a professional rider is being paid to enter these events who are they to tell them they can’t earn money?
  • + 19
 Especially now that every major mountain bike company makes an eMTB.
  • + 35
 They think they're the legally recognized governing body for all things cycling - and as such have jurisdiction over cycling events. FIM, on the other hand, is the legally recognized body for all things motorcycling - and as such have jurisdiction over motorcycling events. So now you have this new thing - ebikes. Is racing an ebike a cycling event, or a motorcycling event? A little bit of both? Neither? Fun times ensue for lawyers working for the two organizations, as the resulting legal fees will easily help them send junior to college and pay off the weekend home...
  • + 42
 @g-42:

Clearly a motorized event. Ebikes or more correctly mopeds have motors. Prove they don't.
  • + 89
 Honestly the UCI is worse than ebikes. Harsh but true.
  • + 14
 @Legbacon: I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm just chuckling at a bunch of bureaucrats fighting over turf.
  • + 4
 @BryceBorlick: B I N G O !
  • + 7
 Who...tha...f*ck. does the UCI think they are...is right. But I suppose they're just trying to run things like a ruthless Corporation. Any Corps wet dream scenario is a 100% monopoly.
  • + 13
 They are a bunch of arrogant, narrow minded, out of touch grumpy old bastards ..... they feel they are above competition.....ironically the very reason they exist is to arrange.... competition
  • + 2
 @BryceBorlick: Agreed. They are acting as a monopoly.
  • + 16
 True dat! Mt biking should cut ties with UCI fully - they have done nothing but allow disrepute in road cycling and as a result the sport has zero credibility with the general public. EWS affiliating with UCI this year is a real blow to enduro already - and now this BS!
  • + 2
 Whats the difference doing a FIM event or FMB, Crankworks ect....?
  • + 9
 @g-42: Are any sanctioning bodies actually 'legally recognised' though? I mean, if you set your own event, get insurance, get medical support, marshalls, entries etc and run it are the feds going to turn up and cart you away because you're not registered with the UCI? Will insurers not cover non UCI registered events in the USA? I get that you can't slap UCI logos all over your weekend $5 races, but ultimately the UCI sanction sporting events, they're not the ATF.
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This sounds awfully like the UCI feeling threatened, they know the FIM is a much more professional organisation when it comes to off roading and they know they can't compete with the events the FIM will put on. So instead they're trying to threten the riders, if the FIM prize pot is big enough it will backfire on them, Julian Absalon's retired after all.
  • + 25
 @Fix-the-Spade: Oh, they're legally recognized alright. You are correct, that doesn't mean nobody else can put on events - but UCI owns certain events/event types (you can't have a cycling event of any sort and call it a World Cup or a World Championship, just like you can't call your event "Olympic"), and its constituent members (the national governing bodies, such as US Cycling) own national level events (such as national or regional championships). Meaning if you stay away from those things, UCI can't keep you from putting on an event. But that's not what they're doing here - they're telling their UCI sanctioned riders that if they don't want to face UCI sanctions, they cannot compete in what UCI considers an event (or series) that directly competes with one they have.

There's all sorts of legal infrastructure (Court for Arbitration in Sports and such), as well as national jurisdictions having a say in these matters. The nub here is whether eMTB is a cycling discipline or a motorcycling discipline, and because both FIM and UCI are governing bodies signed up to that system, this will probably eventually end up in the Court for Arbitration in Sports.

Here's where things get really fun - let's say your Specialized. You really really want eMTB to take off and become its own sport, with huge events and lots of bikes sold. So hey, that means you're rooting for FIM to win this one, because man, they do know how to put on a series and bring in BIG sponsorship money, right? Except if it does end up with FIM, then eMTB will forever be thought of as motorsport - and that will completely kill the campaign the whole industry has going on that's all about making it seem like it's just a way of making MTB accessible to all sorts of people, especially the aged or disabled, and there's really nothing to see here, and dear land managers just think of these things as bikes so people can use established MTB trails instead of being forced to go to moto trails (which would be intimidating to the target customers, what with all those motos zipping by them). Would love to play fly on the wall as they're trying to figure out how to play that.

Again - I don't have a dog in this fight. I'd rather not have lots of eMTBs on MTB trails, and I'm worried about access issues - but in terms of this whole UCI vs FIM thing, I'm mostly just grinning because hey, those bureaucrats deserve all the grief this is causing them.
  • + 4
 @g-42: CAS are in interesting one in that everyone seems to go by what they say, but unless you're Swiss they don't actually have jurisdiction over anyone. Since the UCI and FIM are both based in Switzerland they might have the final say after all. But then with the UCI and FIM being industry bodies rather than regulatory ones (like the DMV) CAS might make a ruling, only for various countries to smash it to pieces. It would certainly be funny to see E-bike racing split between the FIM and UCI depending on what each country defines an E-bike as being, forums would melt over who the 'real' world champion was.
  • - 3
 If the UCI had half a brain they would stay far from e bikes and let the Motos continue to ruin the environment
  • + 1
 I can't see it standing up because it's restraint of trade. They have these kind of disputes in fight sports I seem to remember. IBF says you can't fight the WBC contender or whatever. At the end of the day an athlete has the right to make money by any means they see fit. UCI prize money isn't going to be enough to make anyone stay is it?

Does the UCI own athletes' image rights? That could be something that would get in the way.
  • + 96
 I've never even considered getting an E bike. But this almost makes me want to buy an E bike, just so I can race in the FIM series and snub the UCI.
  • + 40
 Militant anti ebikers are willing to watch that FIM ebike race just to piss off UCI.
  • + 24
 The FIM are just as bad. If not worse. They're a complete and utter sh!t show. Not that I think what the UCI are saying is correct though, it's like a competition of who can be the most ridiculous. Sincerely, Someone who's worked in the Motocross industry on and off for 10 years.
  • + 12
 @jamesdunford: Totally agree. A governing body thinking they own a form of recreational racing is the biggest joke. UCI and FIM can eat a bag of di*ks
  • + 90
 Wait, wasn't that a April 1st joke?
  • + 193
 Everyday is April 1st in UCI.
  • + 10
 Naa it’s a battle royale, winner takes all! Are ebikes mountain bikes or motor bikes!
  • - 39
flag teamdoa (Apr 5, 2019 at 8:02) (Below Threshold)
 @toad321: Well they are not motor bikes as you have to pedal them.
  • + 11
 @teamdoa: by that logic downhill bikes and strider bikes are motorcycles since you don't have to pedal them?
  • + 30
 @teamdoa: A bike with a motor is a motorbike. Would you say a moped is a bicycle?
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flag reverend27 (Apr 5, 2019 at 9:17) (Below Threshold)
 @Super7: nope and I wouldn't say a emtb is a moped.

Two different things built for vastly different purpose.

I guessing you are having trouble discerning between the two?
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 @reverend27:

mo·ped
/ˈmōˌped/
noun
noun: moped; plural noun: mopeds
a low-power, lightweight motorized bicycle.
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flag reverend27 (Apr 5, 2019 at 9:23) (Below Threshold)
 @ripcraft: do people ride mopeds Dow the sides of mountains?
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 @reverend27:

Clearly they do.
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flag reverend27 (Apr 5, 2019 at 9:28) (Below Threshold)
 @ripcraft: Noun eMTB, Defined as an off road capable bicycle, aka mountain bike, with an added electric motor for power assistance.

See I can do that too.
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 @reverend27:

'cept mine was a direct cut and paste from googles dictionary.

Yours is bullshit.
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flag reverend27 (Apr 5, 2019 at 9:52) (Below Threshold)
 @ripcraft: except you looked up moped not emtb.
So it is indeed bullshit.
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flag reverend27 (Apr 5, 2019 at 9:57) (Below Threshold)
 @ripcraft: and geewiz anybody with an open mind can clearly see which of the definitions best describes a emtb.

Just like alot of our shit media you want to define and name based on your feelings beliefs and agenda.
  • + 32
 @reverend27:
Haha! I just actually googled "emtb definition." I found your definition! From a Moped (ebike) company website!

"ebike," pedalec," "emtb," etc. are tradenames at best.

They're mopeds in the dictionary. And anybody who considers themselves a cyclist knows it's true.
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flag reverend27 (Apr 5, 2019 at 9:59) (Below Threshold)
 @Naturel: o I don't ride them just don't like f*cks like you telling people where how and what they can ride and making up their own definitions.

Cause anybody with a larger then pea sized brain know they aren't the same.
  • + 34
 @reverend27: Jesus it's got a motor! That makes it a MOTOR bike! Keep it simple
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 @teamdoa:

They are not bicycles because they have motors.
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 @ripcraft:

Absolute truth.
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 @reverend27: people do ride dirtbikes down the sides of mountains does that mean theyre mountain bikes aswell?
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 @reverend27: I know right? If I want to use your favorite local trail to ride an MX on and tear up it's my choice. And when I pass you on the uphill you better not say anything if you get pushed off the trail.
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 @ripcraft: They may be fun to ride, but you do not want to be seen on one!
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 @reverend27: "Just like alot of our shit media you want to define and name based on your feelings beliefs and agenda."

must... resist.... urge to get political.

Ridiculous man. I make a conscious effort to be objective and civilized, and point out facts.

That said you seem like a dipshit.
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 @chyu: hahahah
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 @drunknride: a motorcycles got pedals ?
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 Obviously they have motors, but they also have pedals. They are not motorcycles or motorbikes. They could be considered to be mopeds. You have the 25km/h speed limiter to ensure they are not motorcycles legally speaking. I think one has to see that as time goes by, new inventions create new category definitions.
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 Mopeds are MOtorcycles that have PEDals. Power assisted bicycles are bicycles. You too can know the difference!: Does it have a throttle? Motorcycle. Does it require you to pedal it like a bicycle? Bicycle. Do throttle assisted vehicles (motorcycles) tear up the trail? Yes. Does any pedal assisted bicycle (ebike) made in the entire universe tear up a trail? No. Are there a bunch of people that have blown the doom of ebikes out of proportion? Absolutely.

Also, the UCI is stupid.
  • + 0
 @Super7: Well if you were to turn the bike "off", and not use the motor, is it now classed as a push bike even if the motor is still attached and not used?
  • + 5
 @jaame: mopeds have speed limiters too 50kph, oh and are power restricted too.
The moped definition confirmed
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 @jaame: granted. Just a question, do you really think the 25kmh limit will stay there? When everybody will be on one, how will they sell you another one? Better wheels? "Better" geo? I don't think so. More power, more watts, longer lasting batteries, i think down the road the 25kmh limit will be ditched. I can't see the future but sadly I'd be very surprised if it goes otherwise.
  • + 8
 @Twowheelsjunkie: You could not be more right! Here's exactly how this will play out:

1. Moto companies will all get in the game (KTM already is) and they will sell high powered e-bikes and ignore the classification system which in fairness was not their invention. Anyone who disputes this please name one company which has succeeded by offering slower products than all their competitors.
2. One of these "bicycles" ridden at high speed by some irresponsible loser will take out a hiker, child or other trail user.
3. Lawsuits will follow and the trail in question will be closed for either e-bikers or all riders. Hopefully it will just impact the lardass crowd but I wouldn't be surprised if in some cases the trails are closed for all two-wheeled traffic. The argument that e-bikes are actually bikes will only help the Siera Club in their desire to say "See, I told you mountain biking is the root of all evil".

Sad but this could be the end of some of our favourite trails. Thanks you lazy f*cks!
  • + 3
 @teamdoa:. Using that logic I guess a car isn't a car once you've parked it and turned the engine off. Wait...are you part of the Trump administration?
  • - 1
 A lot of interesting points made.
In the UK, it is mandatory for ebike users to have insurance now I believe. The speed limiter allows them to be classified as ebikes and not motorcycles, and I think for that reason the speed limiter will remain on some models. Perhaps not all models or makes. Some companies will probably deviate from the "e-MTB" idea and head more into motorcycle territory, but legislation will certainly follow those bikes. You cannot beat the legislation these days. Have you seen that EU bullshit where they are going to introduce speed limiters in all new cars starting in 2022? It will literally make the car read speed limit signs and then prevent the car from exceeding said limit? That's why I believe the speed limit thing will remain at 25km/h.
Access wise, well we don't have great access anyway do we? Footpaths are off limits. Bridleways are on limits but I believe they are also on limits for motorcycles. Do mountain bikes have access to any public rights of way that motorcycles do not have access to? Trail centres are the only ones I can think of but correct me if I'm wrong.
I know it is different in different countries though, and certainly motorbikes scaring walkers is a big reason for mountain bikes getting banned in a lot of places around the world.
In my opinion, an ebike is a lot closer to a mountain bike than it is to a motorbike at this point in time but it could change. If they start making a lot more noise, for example, then I would probably get on the ebike bashing bandwagon too. As it stands I haven't got a problem with them. I wouldn't buy one just yet, but that's because they are too heavy. More Lapierre style bikes with the 18kg weight and removable battery thing could convince me.
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 @jaame: Why would you consider buying one at all? I ride to get exercise and rip downhill on a light highly manoeuvrable bike. I just don't understand why anyone except the elderly, injured or adaptive riders would ride one.
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 @Super7: Everyone is not the same thank God. Different people have different needs. I love mountain bikes and I love motorbikes. I just love going fast. I'm not really into riding uphill. The reason I would consider one is because if i'm riding laps on the local hill, I will inevitably spend 52 minutes out of every hour riding up and only 8 minutes riding own. The ebike will allow me to get a bit more time riding down and less time riding up. It's obvious isn't it?
Also, let's say I have a four hour ride planned up around the Yorkshire Dales. Starting from Addingham, with a normal bike maybe I can make it over the Roman Road to Skipton, out to Embsay, over the top to Rhylstone Cross, past the duck pond at Hetton and back to the car via Bolton Abbey. 70% of the ride is going to be spent on road or going uphill. Who knows how far afield I could make it on an ebike? Maybe over to Hellifield and Malham Tarn in the same time. I mean, why limit yourself?
It's not for everyone and obviously not for you, but you aren't everyone. You are you, I am me and someone else is himself. There is no accounting for taste.
  • + 1
 @Super7: if you went on a demo day I think you might change your mind ! As the old saying goes “there’s no point having a mind if you can’t change it” ! #brexitpeoplesvote :d
@jaame: you don’t need insurance to in the uk to ride an ebike , you might need to take out a separate theft cover from your normal house insurance but that’s upto you !
  • + 1
 @Matt115lamb: I think it was this one I read

m.pinkbike.com/news/emtb-third-party-insurance-in-europe-2018.html

Obviously it's not happened yet, but it will.

#brexitwillneverhappen might as well get that one in there!
  • + 4
 @jaame: Mountain biking has never been for the lazy.
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 @jaame: So with time saving being your goal then I guess you'll be buying the most powerful, fastest ebike you can find. It's a slippery slope to a full electric motocross takeover of MTB trails. Next stop - trail closure.
  • + 1
 @Legbacon: go ahead boys, tell me what mountain biking is to me.
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 @Legbacon: Where did he say anything about being lazy? He said he can do more laps in the same time. In the UK it's often fire road up and singletrack down, but you can't shuttle that fire road because it's closed to cars (besides, you have to admit an e-mtb is less invasive than a pickup truck).

I don't have an emtb and not planning to because they're expensive as f*ck but can imagine why I could use one. Let's say I drive an hour and a half to Forest of Dean, 3h for the round trip, and spend 5h out there. I can't say exactly as I never timed it but for argument's sake it's probably 15-20 min. to climb to the trail head. Most downhill trails there are doable under 4 min. I guess. All the breaks, eating and general faffing between runs will likely accumulate to 1h during the day. This leaves 8 short runs for an 8h day. Of course people are keen on doubling or tripling that number and that's why so many ride ebikes there. Which, by the way has never bothered me in the slightest on my normal bike. Why would it? People pass me on that fire road climb regardless of pedal assist or just being fitter Wink
  • + 2
 @bananowy: it's a funny world we live in. We are told to celebrate diversity, but it has to be the right kind of diversity.
  • + 85
 UCI strikes again. It's like a child who doesn't like a toy, and only wants it when another kid does.
  • + 2
 My little brother was one of those kids. Still is. lmao.
  • + 6
 Seeing UCI enter BMX after not acknowledging or supporting it for its entire development was such a insult to me. I don't have much interest in E-Bike racing but will defiantly be supporting FIM over anything UCI
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 Fuck UCI
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 Let the FIM have their races, they're bloody motorbikes anyway.
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 Yep.
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 So true.
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 Every ass who’s like it’s not the same as a motorbike, you have to pedal. It still has a motor you dumbasses
  • + 7
 @mkotowski1: We have the proof that ebikes are motorbikes anyway with the FIM organizing races! lol
  • + 5
 @Timo82: haha so true, being human powered is what makes a bike a bike, but no instead lets create a shit ton of waste and slap battery packs on bikes that will be thrown away in 5 years or less
  • + 1
 @mkotowski1: Good job im not an ass then .. phew
  • + 47
 Someone should fire back and file a complaint at the European Commission. UCI nor any national federation should not have the monopoly on organizing sports competitions, and athletes should have the freedom to go to whatever event they want. This is worse than Microsoft.
  • + 41
 A quick search shows the European Commission has already fined similar friends of UCI in other disciplines:

europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-5184_en.htm

"The European Commission has decided that International Skating Union (ISU) rules imposing severe penalties on athletes participating in speed skating competitions that are not authorised by the ISU are in breach of EU antitrust law. The ISU must now change these rules."
  • + 11
 @zoobab2:
If you are a UCI enrolled racer who lives in the EU you can file the complaint. The link you posted has links to pages to file the complaint anonymously. Go for it!

Because ultimately this is entirely and only about money and control.
  • + 1
 double post
  • - 3
 @zoobab2: So, allowing people to choose which events to participate in regardless of the governing body is a breach of antitrust law? That makes about as much sense as 2+2 = banana.
  • + 4
 @gally-nh: you didn't read it right
  • + 3
 The EU requires that every business has the same chance of success. The UCI is clearly violating that law.
  • + 44
 Monopolising racket springs to mind.
  • + 34
 That picture of Julien Absalon is great. He's got a slightly embarrassed grin on his face, like "well that was cool, I guess". Nobody in the crowd looks particularly excited or impressed either.

Sweet moped race, yo.
  • + 33
 what a bunch of fucking cunts the UCI are.
  • + 5
 What poah said is a little tame for the uci
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 Mountainbiking is an anarchy sport, so any kind of goverment is clearly in the way.
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 It’s a bike with a motor therefore a motorbike. Let FIM have it..
  • + 23
 It's all about the money, as usual.
  • + 18
 UCI is just like that kid that never heard a solid “NO” during childhood.
  • + 15
 The Lycra Mafia strikes again! Is Sepp Blatter on the UCI’s board?

Would an extra 2.5 million viewers not help promote our fantastic sport?

Take boxing for example and it’s recent boost in popularity, yet there is multiple federations/organisations.
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 > Would an extra 2.5 million viewers not help promote our fantastic sport?

What sport is that? Motorcycling (or motor cycling)? That's not my fantastic sport at all.
  • + 1
 @tripleultrasuperboostplusplus: Viewers bring advertising, advertising brings money, money provides more & better events and pays riders better. Not a hard one to work out.
  • + 2
 Haha! You use one of the most corrupt sports there is, which allows fights to be rigged by having one federation consider a fighter different fron another, in order to rig fights!
  • + 14
 Not even slightly interested in watching people race e-bikes. FIM should start a full electric motocross series. UCI should stick to bikes.
  • + 9
 Looks like a good old fashioned pissing match. I'm rooting for the moto guys to win, as I couldn't be bothered to include e bikes in the definition of "bikes" in any sense. Has a motor and external power source? Well, just call it a motorbike then.
  • + 9
 No one will care. E-Bikes racing in the same events as motos will be like watching any "pro" football league (see AAF) next to the NFL. It will be a novelty for 2 weeks and then it will fade out.
  • + 10
 I couldn't give any more less of a shit about this but still felt the need to comment.
  • + 10
 E Bikes don't deserve to be compared to mtbs anyway, just send them off with the other motorized bikes.
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 EBIKES, is the beginning to the end of Mt.Biking! All the excuses about for handicapped use to promote it was all BS after all!
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 The main problem with ebikes isn’t the damage to climb trails it’s the fact that they will triple the amount of traffic some trails see meaning more maintenance required. My local mountain had a large number of nice loam trails that take a lot of effort to get to. They stay loam rippers because most people are happy to lap the lower trails which see a shit ton of maintenance. Easier acces = more traffic=loss of loam. Trailforks needs to have an eMtb friendly indicator. Let the trail builder decide if ebikes are welcome. If they say no, we have the right to throw stones at the trespassers.
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 Hey UCI! First world nations have Antitrust laws that prevent your sole ownership of a sport!! If eMTB racing truly falls under your exclusive jurisdiction, why can't you settle this legally with FIM, rather than penalising athletes to protect your PRECIOUS monopoly?
  • + 9
 So the UCI dropped the ball, then the FIM picked it up and ran with it, and now the UCI wants their ball back.
  • + 8
 Pink bike missed a great opportunity for an April fools joke. UCI bans it's licensed riders from taking part in non uci strider races.
  • + 2
 Ha, would have been the best ever reverse April fools day joke!
  • + 8
 EWS lesderahip folks want to rethink their recent relationship ties to UCI? Just saying...
  • + 9
 Absolutely embarrassing behaviour from UCI!
  • + 5
 Engine is a internal combustion device

Motor is a electric motor hence eBikes are motorcycles

The enginecycles were derived from bicycles with engines fabricated onto them but enginecycle just doesn’t quite sound right does it?

UCI really needs to rethink there stance on this.
  • + 4
 You guys bashing the UCI are missing a golden opportunity to point out how much the FIM also sucks. I bet both organizations could get into a sucking competition with a golf ball in the middle of a length of garden hose, and the vacuum created would collapse the universe. Threatening to punish riders from your series if they dare to compete in another series just seems a little douchey, though. Actually, a lot douchey. Both parties should just have a go, and whichever series thrives after a few years can be called the one true winner.
  • + 7
 eMTBs should be BANNED...they are 21st century mopeds and belong on the street.
  • + 4
 firstly, its SOO ridiculous....
secondly, where is the problem?
They can say - E-MTB is just with assistance to 20kmh, 50% of power and like 2kWh AND then...
E-(moto)BIKE is where u dont need pedal so much, assist till 50kmh with 80% of power and 20kWh capacity,
THEN every asociation can have theirs E-something-bike and there will be no colision between contenders!

but still... e-mtb is for grannies, event organisers, trailbuilders etc, special people, not so much for just lazy people...
  • + 3
 Would be nice if governing bodies of our sport showed that they were interested in rider not just making money from them!
Maybe about time for a none capitalistic governing body, or are they too dumb to realize it is not about them?
WONDER how much EWS got too sell out?
  • + 6
 EWS was born out of the UCI regulations, Will E-MTB be able to do the same?
  • + 3
 uci is whining about this because of a bigger competitor who cant be controlled, hahaha, sorry uci, you cannot win them all... and fim will do better, big mx brands are creating ebikes and probably the rest of the brands will too... this is their terrain too now, and they have every right.
  • + 7
 UCI - bringing you April Fools level material 365 days a year.
  • + 7
 In case anyone was wondering if e-MTBs were MTBs.
  • + 4
 I can’t wait for UCI to start the full legal doping World Championships. Use all the EPO you want boys and girls, let’s see how fast humans can go with the miracles of modern medicine.
  • + 3
 EPO + Ebikes = faster than motoGP
  • + 2
 Irony can be quite ironic sometimes LOL. With motorcycle manufacturers making electric motorcycles and the electrification of everything, this seems to make sense. Maybe the UCI can impose can their rules on crossfit, since I was watching one of the Reebok crossfit games and one of the events was a cyclocross-style race lmao
  • + 2
 No racer needs any of this organisations. The industry might do. This smells 1984. Go and race against Strava or something instead if you get a hard on seeing how fast you are instead of having fun on your bike. Just a few people in the world make a living on racing anyway and it will probably not be you... We are also in 2019
  • + 2
 UCI: "We own it and run it just as poorly as we everything else we own with an iron fist."

God forbid there are options to take talented bike riders and give more opportunity for exposure, sponsorship, and competition to make events better. UCI is awful.
  • + 5
 E-bikes are motorcycles, why are they even talked about or followed on pinkbike??
  • + 2
 money.
  • + 2
 I think I agree with UCI on this. E-mtb are here to stay, even if many of us dislike them and enjoy making fun of them. Currently mountain bikers are doing a great job of fighting for e-mtb's and promoting their use on our trails. Many people have spent hours convincing landowners and governing bodies that e-mtb's are no more damaging to trails than normal mountain bikes. If we allow a FIM become this involved with e-mtb's it becomes an easy target for outsiders to justify e-mtb's as motorcycles. This opens up a can of worms that I believe could lead to trails being shutdown, especially on land where dirt bikes and similar are not allowed. As soon as e-mtb's become associated with motorcycles, we will have to be very careful of where we allow e-mtb's, which could hurt the boom that e-mtb's are seeing right now. Remember that this e-mtb boom, no mater how lame you think it is, is bringing new money into our beloved bike brands and bringing new riders into the sport. Just my lunch break thoughts, Cheers
  • + 1
 Good point. I hadn't considered that. Also good to hear that the eebers are helping with trail advocacy
  • + 4
 Without knowing any numbers, isn't FIM worth appx. $1billionty dollars? If they wanted, couldn't they just make prize money enough that UCI couldn't compete?
  • + 2
 I've never understood the UCI, a rider can win the overall WCDH Series and yet only a one off race to win a rainbow jersey seems to matter more, screw the Rainbow Jersey, the UCI do not pay riders salaries or contribute to teams costs, kill joy barstewards!
  • + 5
 I wonder if the moto boys are complaining that ebikes are bicycles and not motos! ????
  • + 1
 Well well... A lot of money is there for the taking... Don't understand why an international ebike federation hasn't popped up yet. The way things are going it will be cycling and/or fully electric motorbikes that will be under IEBF's auspices, not the opposite!
  • + 5
 human power vs. non-human power? I say let the FIM have it, why not?
  • + 1
 enduro21.com/index.php/endurogp/3989-fim-announces-inaugural-fim-e-bike-enduro-world-cup
FIM has two categories: E1 for >250w output, and E2 for 250w output. And, FIM's enduro is a format that is classically considered to be "enduro", not bicycling's bastardization of the format. Good luck in court, UCI.
  • + 5
 kinda a bad look for them
  • + 5
 kinda par for the course though, especially after that snow downhill world cup announcement
  • + 4
 E mtb champion.. that's like saying your the smartest guy on the short bus.
  • + 5
 Ebike racing wtf, the world has gone mad.
  • + 1
 EBike or not apparently UCI owns any rider with a license and can penalize you for riding a race that isn't theirs? Ebikes now what next? So scared of competition that you penalize the athletes who participate. UCI forgets they are nothing without the athletes...
  • + 1
 I know I don’t live on an island because I can’t see any water. I don’t live under a rock because I see the sun everyday so I don’t know why this is the first I’ve heard of e-bike championships. Man, didn’t know they gained that much popularity.
  • + 3
 To those who look forward to watching a e-mtb race: I'd say just paint a wall and watch it dry instead. That way it's all good no matter the weather/etc.
  • + 1
 Isn’t UCI the organization that still forces really tall riders into less safe bikes because of bullshit rules they made up that make no sense?

Like limited wheel base lengths to try and prevent recumbents and shit. Forcing anyone over a certain height to ride less then par bikes. That were also kinda dangerous and twitchy
  • + 2
 Very interested to see the FIM's take on an eMTB race track. Hope there are some giant doubles and whoops! I might even consider watching it on Red Bull TV or similar if it's entertaining to watch.
  • + 1
 Obviously the UCI needs to come out with their own MX championship to make the FIM feel the pain.;
Oh wait..MXGP attracts more spectators and a worldwide television audience.
I guess that leaves the UCI to do what it always does in these types of situations.
Blame the riders and punish THEM
  • + 3
 A little late for April fools?
What a joke an e-bike race.
Our current trails are not designed to handle twice the number of users
  • + 1
 The driving force behind the fim having this will be money making. Especially with luongo, or whoever it’s spelt being involved.
If it doesn’t make him money it will soon be dropped.
  • + 2
 For the riders it should be simple... who's paying better. If your income and career will be better served doing FIM events... well... do them.
  • + 1
 There is only one true church of cyclists: the united cyclists of idiots : so take part and be saved ...or don't and the fires of hell are your reward. Sinners can still confess and recant to be saved.
  • + 1
 E bikes will ruin this sport just like electric cars takes out the excitement for new sportscars. Can you imagine when everyone and their nany have an e bike and decide to go out in the trails.. bye bye trails.
  • + 1
 Easy - Get Politics out of Sport.

Screw them both. Not gonna stop me from get out there and pedaling (that can be applied to both analogue MTB or eMTB).
Sport is something you do, not watch.
  • + 1
 Easy - Get Politics out of Sport.

Screw them both. Not gonna stop me from get out there and pedaling (that can be applied to both analogue MTB or eMTB).
Sport is something you do, not watch.
  • + 1
 Josh can’t wait to get his e-bike and that’s all good.
Let’s not stereotype who rides one. I’ll try one but would never buy one, at least not now, maybe when I’m 80. Technically not a bike.
  • + 0
 I tried an ebike recently. I was pretty neat. I dont see how they could damage trails any more than normal bikes and water bottle douche waffles losing their plastic bottles all over the place would. I like my 5010v3 sex kitten, so no ebike for me.
  • + 1
 UCI losers want to punish athletes?:-) Terrible news! Terrible! Let's donate UCI. Let's send them 1euro each biker, they will have their money and for some time won't be annoying anyone.
  • + 3
 Racing e-bikes seems a bit like having a race series where people are allowed to take performance enhancing drugs
  • + 3
 Uh oh the UCI is putting up a stink and it will affect the entire mtb community for their actions Frown
  • + 2
 Im so confused, is this still April fools? Its hard to tell what's a joke and what's not when both E-bikes and UCI are involved
  • + 1
 Oh, so UCI got scared of having a competition on the market? Hahaha, get f*cked! So good not to have a license anymore and be free to decide what I'm going to race, would be glad to try one of FIM races to show them support!
  • + 1
 Its all money. E bikes are significantly impacting growth of the bike economy and they can't afford to lose their place as a culture and competition facilitator to motorsport bodies.
  • + 4
 Wow I'm really torn here because I hate E-bikes but I also hate the UCI.
  • + 4
 I’m glad to see this clusterf*ck happening to the eshiltes.
  • + 3
 The only reason they are bothered is because of the money.
  • + 3
 I've ridden both USAC and AMA. I'd take AMA anytime.
  • + 1
 Mountain biking is taking a sad turn. regret getting back into it now. cant just have fun anymore and do what you want.... everyone is a bunch of bitch ass...
  • - 1
 Dont get me wrong...Ebikes are lamer than FDR's leg(unless it is a me and to helping you enjoy mtb due to physical limitations.. the. Party on) ... buuuttt.... f*** UCI. If a rider wants to race an event.. who cares... they shouldn't have to worry about a sanctioning body.
This is just UCI wanting to have their fingers in every pie and have total control over all racing.
Not sure if it's still a rule.. But they used to say elite uci racers could not compete at local level races that were not sanctioned by uci or Usac... such crap.
  • + 4
 lol
  • + 3
 Ebike race..it's stupid, get a Harley.
  • + 3
 Watch out, Crankworx, sounds like UCI is on a tantrum streak
  • + 1
 They won’t be able to handle the ass whooping they would receive.
  • + 2
 nobody gets to own an entire discipline of biking, who do they think they are? f*ck UCI, elitist pricks
  • + 2
 E-Bikes, UCI happens! Don’t even know whey UCI even bothered, don’t you know it’s a motorcycle?
  • + 2
 Might as well have a fully doped event too. Guess the UCI would get that one...
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 I think the ebike class should have mandatory doping. You have to do steroids, eat nothing but cheeseburgers, and cannot exercise.
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 Two things i dont give two s***ts about- UCI and electric motorcycles...
  • + 1
 I keep waiting for this April fools day joke to go away from my news feed. Glad to see others consider ebikes to be motorbikes.
  • + 4
 Organized crime.
  • + 1
 UCI.. 25kph 250 watt limit... FIM.. unlimited open class..full blown tear the rubber off. With pit stop batter swaps and all.
  • + 2
 Fuck the UCI. Fuck the FIM. Fuck all the haters that don't know the difference between an e-moto and an e-bike.
  • + 1
 Progression, evolution...pfft. Who needs such things. The anti-e-bike crowd can join the ranks of the 26" vs 27.5" vs 29". It's just so predictable...
  • + 2
 sounds like the UCI is just a bunch of pricks.
  • + 1
 WHO GIVES A RATS ASS!! AND...the UCI is full of a bunch or corrupt elitists !!
  • + 2
 I submit to our robot overlords.
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 There is a special place in hell for the "healthy" riders that ride E-bikes & E-bike devs.
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 I thought the whole FIM eBike race series was an April fools day joke?!
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 I thought April Fools jokes were over.
  • + 1
 The uci can go stuff itself with something jagged. Monetize, monopolize, criticize, cunts in disguise.
  • + 2
 Who gains what from this Ebike bollocks?
  • + 1
 If usacycling follows UCI rules, does this mean USAC card holders could be penalized for racing in the GNCC E-Bike series?
  • + 2
 Oh UCI... back at it again with the dumb moves.
  • + 2
 UCI strikes again... Facepalm
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 Ebike competition is hilarious. He who did the best mods to fake bicycle/motorcycle wins.
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 lol
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 They killed BMX, let them kill e-bikes too...
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 UCI has never served a useful purpose.....EVER!
  • + 1
 Harry Hill mode - "Which is better? There's only one way to find out: FIGHT!"
  • + 2
 Love or hate E bikes, but f#%k UCI man.
  • + 1
 The UCI thinks they own the rights to E-Bikes because they say they do. lol. Just bureaucratic bs.
  • + 2
 Good luck enforcing that legally!
  • - 1
 and why do we care?

Oh, that’s right, we really don’t.

So then why do you guys seem to care?

I’ve got a Pivot Shuttle in my garage and I still couldn’t give a shite about ebike racing.
  • + 2
 Motorcycle is gonna motorcycle no matter what UCI does!
  • + 1
 Sounds like E-MTB races are going to be hype. Just like every other cycling event not governed by the UCI
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 You will all be riding e bikes In a few years lol
  • + 1
 oh, my... what a difference a year makes...
  • + 1
 Those f*¨cking, Swiss, old, UCI wankers.
  • + 3
 Before you post something, you should know about. Education is all about. What’s wrong with you PBers? haters about 29er, e-bikes etc. do google it, ask an expert, or best try it. Just go and try a e-bike (pedaling assisted bike) not a moto. No wonder this world is going down with guys like you. We are all cyclist and should stay together. We all, like being out in nature
and having fun. Doesn’t matter if downhiller, enduro, xc or e-biker or even a roadie. Together we are stronger.
Go out and ride. Amen
  • + 0
 @thomac76:
Well said. I really think all the gear hate on here is just youngsters that can’t afford the latest or greatest or to have multiple bikes.
It’s a simple case of envy ( not enve).
And Strava times...
  • + 1
 Can’t we just all get along?
  • + 1
 John Tomac rides an e-bike. but what does he know?
  • + 1
 UCI sucks, who wants throw their "tea" into their "harbor."
  • + 1
 fascism in bike race industry
  • + 0
 Time to bring out the UCI Sucks stickers. I still have a pile of FIS Sucks ones inspired from the days of Freeze Mag.
  • + 1
 E politics has just ramped up it seems.
  • + 1
 FIM got it right... everyone else is wrong.
  • + 1
 Corporate beaurocratic prickstery at it's finest here!
  • + 1
 Uci is useless , sooner we get rid of them the better
  • - 1
 I want an e bike so bad, had a guy pass me twice yesterday on the same climb. Takes me an hour, takes him 25min. He's getting twice the fun.
  • - 2
 60% of specialized MTB sales in Europe is now ebikes. The haters will be minority sooner or later. Zero regrets getting one, I now do 4 loops of my fav downhill in the time it used to do 1 and I get home with enuff left to play with my kids instead of dead on the couch
  • + 7
 @jwrx: You should have got fitter on a normal bike then you'd still have energy to play with the kids.
  • + 1
 UCI MOB BOSS, saw this one from miles away! It's just the beginning!
  • + 1
 Who actually gives 2 f*cks!?
  • + 1
 Episode V: The UCI Strikes Back
  • + 0
 So let me get this straight, cyclist complaining about another industry growing their sport? That checks out.
  • + 1
 So the UCI is saying it owns and controls all things cycling. Screw that.
  • + 0
 uci don’t have the jurisdiction to ban a rider competing outside uci events
  • + 1
 Tour de E-bike, all the fun without the doping?
  • + 1
 Only the UCI Pres. would be "delighted for [...] ebikes"
  • + 0
 I'm sure it's against some ECHR rule.
  • + 1
 Getting good!
  • - 1
 They should just split it up. Peddle assist is UCI, throttle is FIM. Should be obvious... Smile
  • + 0
 Class 1 is pedal assist with no throttle, and should UCI jurisdiction.
  • + 0
 Or was it wheeze, wheeze!
  • + 1
 honestly.....who cares
  • + 1
 The yanks, in the land of the free, they seem to care!
  • + 0
 Fu#%ing UCI again...
  • + 0
 Late April joke?
  • + 8
 It's never too late for a joke about e-bikes Beer
  • + 0
 May the best course win
  • + 0
 UCI, wroom, wroom!
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 Guy's? Clarify? Please?
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