Crankworx Rotorua 2020 started off with a bang featuring the Giant Toa Enduro presented by Camelbak. Despite taking place on trails similar to last year, the conditions were anything but the same. Riders faced loose and dusty conditions which made the racing all the more interesting.
Mate! Some PC bloke brings this up everytime there's a picture or video of riding in Rotorua. Most riders don't wear knee pads here. They turn up, look at the conditions, and make a call as to what protection they think they need. Most riders that don't wear knee pads here do when they ride in a spot which requires that level of protection (nelson, queenstown, etc).
@willbam: Those guys must not be very good at reading conditions then, the knee pad-less dude ate shit pretty good in that corner. Good thing he was comfortable before doing so?
@willbam: PC? Wtf dude Where in my comment did you read me advocating for or against knee pad usage?
I just find it interesting that there is more or less a stable "accepted" attire, and then all of a sudden theres a race were a third of the guys show up without knee pads.
Are you that insecure about your gear choices that you jump over anyone who (in a neutral way) comments on it?
@Arierep: it's the new rage. I can't stand the trail helmet nazis. Simply, personal choice. Folks need to SHUT UP and mind themselves. Kneepads? Please.
@Aleven: nah it's the country that realizes that bashing you head into someone elses with or without wearing helmets is stupid as f*ck, and that by removing the pads the game is safer
@jimbothekid: apparently the research shows that without pads rugby players tend to be less careless about shock damage. Same with mma where smaller gloves result in less long term trauma for fighters than big boxing gloves.
@keep-rollin: in mma, it's different. Bigger gloves protect the hand and therefore allow one to continue delivering strikes. Gloves do not reduce the impact of the strike, i.e. the same force is transferred. Without gloves, fighters with exceptionally dense carpals, meta-carpals and phalanges fair better overall due to fewer bone breaks in their hands and wrists.
@Ian713: Good point. I wasn't very precise. My point was that less protection (combined with other factors) results in less trauma in both these sports, but it does not work like that with MTB
For what it's worth, I ride with an orthopedic trauma surgeon. He tells me knee and elbow injuries for mountain biking are rare beyond a few abrasions. The big injury? Collar bones. I'm not saying not to wear any protection you like, but those are the facts.
@metalvelo: Hahaha, I in the rain , snow, sleet mud slipping , shovel sticking mode. They need Iron chef copper non stick shovels. Can't wait to be coughing up dust.
Am I the only one tho think that racing at this level & speed should need a full face helmet and knee pads ? in the future, are DH racers going to get a open face helmet when the track is "not that rocky" so they look cool ?
No, you're not. Many Enduro races here (Canadian Enduro Series) have a requirement for full face, so some people (myself included) use the modular ones. Any other armour should be optional, IMHO.
The best bmx’ers in the world riding the biggest comps in the world dropping 20ft to flat with no suspension or brakes don’t have helmets on. I’m sure some mtbers riding some dusty trails will be ok if they skin a bit of their knees , they know what they’re doing
Didn't Giro already market that "Full face without the chin-bar" helmet? You know, the concept that is so mind-bogglingly stupid that even the bike media "wasn't convinced"?
@nurseben: Another point is in New Zealand if you hurt yourself you get fixed mostly for free. Even tourists. So maybe the taxpayer would like you to put a few more pads on. That said, at their speeds I would think that a full face was, ahem, a no brainer.
Well the wheel was not pointing in the good direction in the first place ^^ It didn't help, but there's chance the outcome would have still been the same !
That guy was gone. He hit the freaking tree and his wheels dropped in behind the rut at the same time he pulled his foot out and was trying to eject to get a run down the bank before the guy's leg even touched his wheel.
If any of you think that spectator removed even a shadow of a chance of him not eating it, you're nutter. Guy failed. On the YouTube, some guy is claiming to be the rider and saying he got in a fight over it after the race with the spectator. He deserves to get a punch in the sack if he blames someone else for him not being able to hang on (or maybe avoid a gigantic tree)
@blowmyfuse: I'm the rider who crashed. The guy I hit with my wheel is one of my best mates, I hit the tree with my bar. And I didn't not have a fight after the race ???? I was just cooked coming into that section and got slightly off line
The climbing would suck arse unless your stoker is a powerhouse, getting down is hard, but doable. It’s not all that much fun, I much prefer solo riding.
Just makes me warm and tingly all over to see Eddie the Eagle on the top step. He's gotta be an amazing bike handler because you know his fitness can't be anywhere near the other top guys.
Well, I loved this. People having fun (spectators included), great tracks etc. If people make the call to ride open face and/or without knee pads that's up to them. It makes me cringe when I see it but it's up to them. Well done Rae and Eddie and all the others.
I’m really not getting the anti-body protection movement going on here. Every other day we read about the serious injuries that occur in this sport. Then we watch rider after rider on stage in an EWS not even wearing a FF helmet let alone knee pads??? WTF? The EWS organizers need to tighten up on this honestly. This is just dumb ass behavior.
Might as well go without a helmet yeah, because an XC bucket doesn’t protect shit at these speeds. Those guys are just dumb if you ask me... I thought pads and a full face were mandatory..? Ah well.. Maybe it’s just me being 44yo.. Thinking back, I rode BMX dirt jumps for years and years on end without any protection in the nineties..... :-/
hahahaha I lold so hard imagining a really stern German man being angry about some professional athletes people across the the world and calling them cowards from behind his keyboard
I remember being forced to wear knee pads at Wairoa Gorge, thankfully I could be free and ride without them in Queenstown, Nelson and Rotorua. Knee pads suck.
those 50year old dudes wearing knee pads riding blue flow trails might be the surgeons who save your knee because you were too cool to wear some while sending 10metres drops....
@Ian713: yeah, you're right, but it also wasn't logical for him to imply that there's no gray area between blue flow trails and 10 meter drops. There were no 10 meter drops in this Enduro race, or even a 3 meter drop. I really enjoy the content on this site, I just get so tired of all the whiny entitled comments. Who cares if some racers choose to go without kneepads? It's like some people here are legitimately offended by that choice- it's ridiculous.
So many stupid comments here, you have no idea how we do things in NZ so don't open your big mouth unless you have something sensible to say. Seriously you northern hemisphere dicks suck so much
Where in my comment did you read me advocating for or against knee pad usage?
I just find it interesting that there is more or less a stable "accepted" attire, and then all of a sudden theres a race were a third of the guys show up without knee pads.
Are you that insecure about your gear choices that you jump over anyone who (in a neutral way) comments on it?
> They turn up, look at the conditions, and make a call as to what protection they think they need.
That’s exactly what I tell people when they ask me about me not wearing seatbelts.
It does not work for knee pads tho.
Bigger gloves protect the hand and therefore allow one to continue delivering strikes. Gloves do not reduce the impact of the strike, i.e. the same force is transferred.
Without gloves, fighters with exceptionally dense carpals, meta-carpals and phalanges fair better overall due to fewer bone breaks in their hands and wrists.
in the future, are DH racers going to get a open face helmet when the track is "not that rocky" so they look cool ?
Any other armour should be optional, IMHO.
That said, at their speeds I would think that a full face was, ahem, a no brainer.
If any of you think that spectator removed even a shadow of a chance of him not eating it, you're nutter. Guy failed. On the YouTube, some guy is claiming to be the rider and saying he got in a fight over it after the race with the spectator. He deserves to get a punch in the sack if he blames someone else for him not being able to hang on (or maybe avoid a gigantic tree)
oh and congrats on making the reel, condolences on making it for the wrong reason!
FTW or WTF???
raw calls from the cheap seats
On a side note, I see folks w/o knee pads and wish I had the confidence.
Those guys are just dumb if you ask me... I thought pads and a full face were mandatory..?
Ah well.. Maybe it’s just me being 44yo.. Thinking back, I rode BMX dirt jumps for years and years on end without any protection in the nineties..... :-/