@AFunFox: ...You should do more research on that. Having one viral video doesn't, releasing videos everyday and having 1,000,000 subscribers absolutely does.
The evolution of race bikes is never ending. 27.5, 29, mullets, short chainstays, long chainstays, carbon, back to aluminum, 5mm reach adjustments, and on and on. The F1 analogy is so perfect.
That being said, the simplicity of freeride is a nice break. Its like BMX, simple, performant, and lean. Many of these bikes are what, 5, 6 years old? Geometry and construction techniques for hucking and having fun plateaued I'd say 2015, and hasn't really needed to progress that much. And I think thats a beautiful thing.
I think about this a lot. And agree completely. The best free ride bikes are dh sleds from 2010-2015 IMO. Since then everything got a bit racey and not all that great for hucking or tricking. Now we have the ‘super enduro’ rigs that some are calling freeride....but...they’re not.
@hamncheez: Why not? You want stability at speed and on landing right? Long and slack is better for that. Now if you want to do backflips and 360s then that becomes a hassle. I'm surprised no one is riding a slack, long bike with stiff suspension at a fest series event.
@SintraFreeride: lips get weird when your bike is too long, long and slack dont present as many benefits on groomed smooth jumps as they do through chunk
I don’t think it’s that bikes didn’t need to progress for hucking after 2015 or whenever, but they just didn’t. Bikes could definitely continue to improve just as they have for racing but there’s almost no market. Seems like suspension design and actual suspension is what could obviously be improved for hucking right now but who knows what could evolve if it was focused on?
@huvudvind: LOL! Just how short are the lips you are riding? Last time I checked unless you have a 5m wheelbase those fest jumps will work just fine! Long and slack present benefits for landing big stuff especially if you don't land straight.
Nearly all content on pinkbike is now videos, I appriciate it makes them more money, but please, with things such as bike checks. Articles are much better.
It's the way of the world. Pinkbike Photo of the Day use to get 30K views and 100 comments. Now 1500 views and 6 comments. I sometimes feel bad for the photographers that are truly skilled, taking banger shots.
@rockyflowtbay: just subbed to Beta MTB. It’s pretty refreshing getting away from the PB hype and having the marketing info crammed into my brain a new / old school way. Pretty pumped to get the new mag actually.
intresting to see they don't have what we call Dream bikes builds, i mean, most of them don't ride necessarily high end components, you can see GX cranks, old VIVID shox... but still they ride at a level none of us will come close Would it mean we don't need all these fancy components ?
@leviatanouroboro: I feel bummed too just from watching his IG stories, he comes out as a racist and ignorant t All of his stories were related to Johnny's money, the kid family is wealthy and Cam seems like he doesn't understand how someone in Mexico could have money. Over and over the same kinda of joke. Lame
@leviatanouroboro: sure. He posted something on his story saying “ f*g” seemingly playfully referring to the bikes purple color. It doesn’t mean he’s a bigot at all. It’s an indication of lack of awareness that usually you expect to see from someone who is a teenager or younger, rather than a 30 something grown adult who’s married with two kids.
@Burritobandito: I'm incredibly sorry that's how it was perceived, as that was not my intention, or perspective. I love Mexico, and Johnny and his family have been incredible. Nothing but love.
@sfrucian: My careless choice of words is not acceptable and will never happen again. I'm deeply embarrassed, as they do not reflect my opinions. They somehow became a part of our vocabulary years ago, but it is the one and only reality check I need to remove them and other words from ever being spoken again. I'm sorry if this offended you and I hope you can forgive me.
@freeridejerk888: I have many friends of different race, nationality and sexual orientation. Please don't believe these mistakes are indicative of my beliefs or character. It is my top priority to be better every day. My new top priority is alleviating the hurtful words immediately and indefinitely. Much love
@EeehhZink: Hey Cam thanks for owning your comments and voicing your opinon/apology, I applaud you for that. We have to be aware that is easy not to realize that theres always different perspectives to one's comments and we as humans are prone to err. But luckily theres people like you that accept when they made a mistake.
I just noticed that the rear tire for the Rose bike is put on backwards since the tread ramps are running in the reverse direction or rotation. Doesn't that have a higher rolling resistance or is this mainly for grip since the bike is going downhill 100% of the time?
Kinda a bummer freeriders have to ride discontinued bikes. Modern DH bikes are only designed for racing it seems. Hopefully one day the companies will realize not everyone races and there are still people trying to throw tricks and go big on DH bikes.
And so is the front it’s probably weired for Schwalbe newbies that the outer knobs channel inward (the “tip” points out in rolling direction). Better get some HansDampfs
@SintraFreeride: Nah I’d rather not. Everyone knows 650 and 26 are close enough to be interchangeable, they feel pretty much the same. 29 are not as fun, not as versatile, heavy and ugly imo. They look at home on road bikes.
@emptybe-er: Depends on what you call fun. They are fast, roll over stuff better and have more grip. As for looks well they look alright on longer bikes but not on shorter ones. I am not currently on them more due to cost than anything else but I did enjoy the extra speed when I tested them. I think in 5 years there won't be a bike on the market with a 650b front wheel unless it's for kids. They will all be mullet or full wagon wheels.
@SintraFreeride: they do smooth out the trail and provide traction. If that’s fun then dbl track dirt roads are the future. 29’ers sell because they make biking easier for the majority of putters. I’m not against putters or 29 but I do think they should be optional rather than taking over.
@emptybe-er: Your argument is flawed. Full suspension, disc brakes and better geometry have all made mountainbiking way easier than fully rigid short and steep bikes with cantilever brakes of the past.
Increasing wheelsize is not the death of mountainbiking. The future is people riding faster, harder over even more difficult terrain because of the benefits of those larger wheels. Now if they aren't your thing that's fine but mark my words in a few years there won't be a choice. We are already seeing that in the recent trend in new trail bikes.
@emptybe-er: I am just saying there isn't a big market for it. Having said that I would recommend a Nicolai G1 with a longer shock or their downhill model G19 if you want something like that. My bike has 213mm of rear travel and 203 front. I have it set up for climbing and decending but it can easily be setup just for DH.
@SintraFreeride: I think the amount of people coming from bmx and dj/freeride background is dropping off and more people with no bike background are starting with a mtb, this is the main reason wagon wheels have been received as well as they have imo. Without jumping, cornering, and bike handling skill the positives outweigh the negatives. Not saying that skilled riders aren’t going fast on them, but plenty of people are plenty fast on smaller wheels and don’t need or want them.
@emptybe-er: You can do anything on bigger wheels it just takes adaptation. For example, you lean the bike over more in cornering compared to smaller wheels. Just like suspension and better brakes changed the way we rode by allowing us to plow through rougher terrain and stop later.
@SintraFreeride: adaptation? Instead of my adapting to wagon wheels for no reason, how about the masses adapting some cornering skill so the rest of us can go back to a fun wheelsize?
@emptybe-er: The masses are always going to pick bikes that make it easier to go faster, over harder terrain. Skills are for the non beginners who put in the time. As for fun wheelsize, that again is a matter of perspective.
@pinkbikeoriginals I're just wondering how reliable / remarkable the pinkbike is? Especially when he plays without a worthy opponent? pinkbike should show us the whole list of all the riders and the companies they ride for!
Postscript: I do not care how many downvotes, i will collect! The only thing i care about is to seeing the whole list!
Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us: "Take a trained monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car." Thirty years later Sebastian told us: "I had to start my car like a computer. It's very complicated." And Nico Rosbeg said, err, he pressed during the race, I don't remember what race, the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you to both. Is formula 1 driving today too complicated with 20 and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future, concerning technical program, errrm, during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more comunication with your engineers.
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That being said, the simplicity of freeride is a nice break. Its like BMX, simple, performant, and lean. Many of these bikes are what, 5, 6 years old? Geometry and construction techniques for hucking and having fun plateaued I'd say 2015, and hasn't really needed to progress that much. And I think thats a beautiful thing.
Would it mean we don't need all these fancy components ?
We have to be aware that is easy not to realize that theres always different perspectives to one's comments and we as humans are prone to err. But luckily theres people like you that accept when they made a mistake.
Cheers bro.
I think in 5 years there won't be a bike on the market with a 650b front wheel unless it's for kids. They will all be mullet or full wagon wheels.
Increasing wheelsize is not the death of mountainbiking. The future is people riding faster, harder over even more difficult terrain because of the benefits of those larger wheels. Now if they aren't your thing that's fine but mark my words in a few years there won't be a choice. We are already seeing that in the recent trend in new trail bikes.
I're just wondering how reliable / remarkable the pinkbike is? Especially when he plays without a worthy opponent? pinkbike should show us the whole list of all the riders and the companies they ride for!
Postscript:
I do not care how many downvotes, i will collect!
The only thing i care about is to seeing the whole list!
"At some point you must step up the game"
Is that all you have to say / ask?
I have one question for you though:
The grey counters are octupus collected, bathtub?
Now that's stepping up the game!
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