Those trails don't make themselves! Christina Chappetta spent a day with SORCA's Dave Reid and Ben Haggar to get the lowdown on what a day in the life of a trail builder is like.
Special thanks to SORCA, Dave Reid & Ben Haggar for their time and dedication.
I was gonna build some trail... but then I got high... Actually, in all honesty, I highly doubt either of these builders indulge hahah their lunch boxes were so healthy and thought out compared to my bag of chips and cookies.
My top three favorite tools for building are the big ass rogue hoe, fiskars d-handle spade, and that sweet sweet sticky herb. Fackin go all day with some snacks and tunes.
@christinachappetta: Fair enough I dont even know why would people wonder if they puff or not,but we did mention you gained some over the winter Christie !!! So more water less juice and cut the sweets n chips !
@barbarosza: make no mistake, guy. ; why do you think it's OK to say something so f*cking stupid? Christina is awesome and deserves respect accordingly. I guess that making a considered judgement about what you're typing would be advisable in future otherwise someone's going to punch you so hard in the stomach your pants will fall down.
@CRAFTY-P: Jesus f*cking Christ ...... savage...... christ its was maybe meant to be helpfulll ..... anyhow cant that be taken as a f*cking joke ? Christ I love all of her work it was just a comment ....... I dont see how thats THAT MEAN .... chill the f*ck down all of you
being a girlfriend to a very devoted trail builder.. i see the entire weekends, the after work nights, the money on nails, gas, chainsaws, (beer) that goes into all of it. makes you appreciate the entire sport even more, trail builders truly are the backbone of mountain biking
Last night, I was helping on some maintenance on a trail that some horse riders used when it was muddy (leaving a solid amount of trail damage in their wake).
We just got done fixing a muddy section that was still too damp to ride when MTBer comes through and leaves a nice mark right in front of us. Didn't say a word lol. Two more guys came up, saw us, walked around the mud, and said thank you for helping with trail work. That was the right approach haha.
That's the way she goes! Can't knock other users/user groups on multi-use trails!
I ran a trail day for a high school mtb team where we did maintenance and it was wet so the kids walked out uphill. I had to walk downhill back to my tool stash. On my way down I encountered an equestrian on the way up the trail to our fresh work (and had never seen an equestrian on that trail ever). All I could do is smile and wave. If putting up a new trail I have tried to make entrances/exits un-attractive to other user groups (e.g. steep roll, big low branches, etc.)
It's nice when people respect fresh work, but not everyone knows/cares to...
@HB208: the equestrians love wrecking trails and not helping with maintenance around here. The demographic has changed a lot with this group tho over the last 20 yrs, pretty much it's just a herd of Karen's anymore on horses
@artistformlyknowasdan: That's what it is near me as well. They are honestly the most entitled users you will come by in the area. They have no issue trashing trails, never help with cleanup, are usually rude on the trail, etc.
@Doogster: Yeah, the people boning the trails this year were mostly new resident hikers that don't know better and/or people that needed stuff to do during COVID.
@HB208: No shit had someone scream their head off and threaten me when I waved my buddies following me to slow down. "if you spook this horse and bucks me, I am gonna whoop your ass!"
If your horse sucks that much keep it off busy multi use trails.
@Doogster: Yeah, WTF. The horse rule should be like the dog rule: If you can't keep your horse under control, don't bring your horse on busy trails. It always rubs me the wrong way when they go on busy trails in the Military Reserve and then scowl at everyone.
Shoot man, that's happened so many times. One time, I just had it and made an entire crew of riders go back to the top of the trail and fix everything they messed up! it was all fresh dirt in the middle of winter with big'ol redwood branches blocking all the features! I was PISSSSSED!
@HB208: don’t forget that the shit spreads the seed of weeds and other plants that often shouldn’t be in the areas that they are riding - at least that’s the case in NSW, Australia
Wildly incorrect, trail building consists of building for 15 mins accidently getting too drunk off craft beers to continue building and then having a fire instead
hahah "where did that pile of cedar go?" woops, burned! These guys are paid professionals so they lollygag a lot less than my usual day of digging, which last exactly 2 hours or 2 beers, whichever comes first.
Thanks to all involved (in the video, and builders in general). I would love to see more builder content on pinkbike to raise awareness of how much effort goes in to these trails, and explaining why things are built they way they are.
Yes. This. There are so many newcomers to my local trails. Most people assume the trails are built and maintained by the county park employees. When in fact it is our group of local riders who do all the work.
Trail work really is rewarding. Every time you ride a trail you made yourself, or just a section that you repaired/improved you get a sense of accomplishment. Plus swinging a mattock and smashing stuff is a great stress relief after long day in the office.
Well done guys. Can't thank Dave and Ben enough. Dave quit his comfortable 9-5 job and changed his career a few years back and Sorca is a much stronger organization because of it. There are too many countless people in the Squamish community that put so much love into the trails.
So very true! Love our communities and have countless builders to thank for their work and continued efforts. Dave has personally built over 13 trails! and maintains many many more. What a legend
Leaving a legacy behind, and for future generations to enjoy. I wish we had a better form of trail association here; ours is split between too many groupings, usually between Parks staff and or individual cycling clubs, and as a result, there are too many legislative restraints put in place to protect government agencies from potential law suits. It's slowly changing, but in ten years, we still don't have drops bigger than 2ft.
Hey Pinkbike, will there be another Trailforks trail donation event again this year? That was a great idea to entice people with potentially winning prizes when donating to trail builders.
More content like this! Teach us things! Trail etiquette, trail maintenance, bike tech. Like it or not you are the spiritual leaders of the MTB community.
There’s much satisfaction to be gained from helping to build and maintain trails, especially as you get a great appreciation of what is involved. As someone who helps regularly as a volunteer with the DTV in the FOD, it’s something I’ve enjoyed very much. The frustrating thing is finding that some riders blatantly ignore trail closures and ride the trails when they’re not finished or ready to be ridden, creating more work and delaying the opening. Even more frustrating when the riders responsible then stick a video on their YouTube channel boasting about their exploits.
Hey California's! This is what it should really look like.
P.S. Thank you to everyone who maintains our legal trail systems and fights for their access
Guess it depends where you live. Up here, Worca, Sorca, and Porca (Whistler, Squamish, Pemby) do a great job maintaining our vast trail networks, have access to the most resources, and get local government support. Supporting these organizations makes the most sense where I live.
More content like this! Teach us things! Trail etiquette, trail maintenance, bike tech. Like it or not you are the spiritual leaders of the MTB community.
Can anyone explain what he means at 3:28? "The trail builder put [the slat] down grain flat instead of grain up." I build trails and feel this is important information.
When it's split cedar has a grain to it. You can feel the grain if you run your hand lightly against it- sort of a light frictioned texture.
Put the split rung with the grain vertical or grain up when you nail it into a bridge or a stunt. As the (vertical) grain of the cedar wears it'll have that same vertical texture exposed which will have friction.
If you look at the end grain of a plank you also want to orient the piece with the growth rings or smile facing up... Then when the wood cups the plank won’t rock on the stringers and come loose! Also, when you drive in your nails angle them towards each other which helps lock the piece down.
@rosco1: Super helpful and precise advice! Thank you! Smiley face up! I'm currently starting a bridge build with two corners (an S shape) and all these details help.
@christinachappetta: Awesome that you even got him in front of a camera. "old man Dave!" has a wealth of knowledge behind him in many sports. Miss hanging with him...
@christinachappetta: Hey listen I absolutely adore all the content that you put so much effort in and by no means did I realize I was actually being a dick with my previous comment.I gave it a second thought and I realize it can be hurtful.This is an opened and truthfull apology and please dont ever get discouraged by any means comments or remarks sent it by frustrated keyboard warriors fat f*cks like myself.Please continue to believe in your work cause its amaizing where you are at !
@Christinachappetta : Hey listen I absolutely adore all the content that you put so much effort in and by no means did I realize I was actually being a dick with my previous comment.I gave it a second thought and I realize it can be hurtful.This is an opened and truthfull apology and please dont ever get discouraged by any means comments or remarks sent it by frustrated keyboard warriors fat f*cks like myself.Please continue to believe in your work cause its amaizing where you are at !
A yes the annual "Thank a Trailbuilder" flick by everyone thanking the builder in the comments then riding forever without ever putting in a single minute of trailwork through the year. (except that one fella offended by this post)
@christinachappetta I'll have to challenge your opinion on rocks in Squamish, I'll show you where you get 10 buckets of rocks to find a bucket of dirt on an entire hill!
MTB riders "got to save the planet mannn, no chemicals mannnn, electric cars brroo, is it bio-degradable duuudee" Yet are the first people to cut down trees just for their own enjoyment, disturb the wildlife and leave crappy craft beer cans everywhere....
So, for one, why say all that if you don't really care. It suuure sounds like you do. And two, out of all the mtber's that I know/I've seen, only a few have ever "thrown beer cans all over the place." And for your comment about cutting down trees for our own enjoyment and disturbing the wildlife, we don't! We cut down a few, dead, trees and we don't really disturb the wildlife. And one more thing, from your PB profile, I seems like you're a mtber and you enjoy the trails. There would be trails for you and I to ride if we didn't have trail builders to help our sport. So yes, I can (kind of) see where your coming from but I really don't thing building a 12 inch wide trail is really harming the wildlife and sorts. I think logging is a bigger deal and we should focus more one that to be quite frank...
Yeah, I get what you're saying with the hypocrisy. It really shows in the consumerism when having to buy new parts etc.
But I'll point out that it looked like the stringers Dave was cutting were already blowdown, and that you can find perfectly good slats in large cedars that have been down for 20+ years. I don't think these guys had to cut anything down to rebuild that bridge.
It's a tradeoff that is kind of analogous to zoos. Some people are frustrated that animals are in cages (or a tree or 2 is cut and some gas is burned to build a bridge), but those costs can yield the benefit of getting people interested in conservation; either by learning about captive animals in the zoo analogy or getting out and appreciating the local environment with mtb trails.
; why do you think it's OK to say something so f*cking stupid? Christina is awesome and deserves respect accordingly. I guess that making a considered judgement about what you're typing would be advisable in future otherwise someone's going to punch you so hard in the stomach your pants will fall down.
A: you don’t do that
B: you just don’t do that
C: it’s none of your business what she does
being a girlfriend to a very devoted trail builder.. i see the entire weekends, the after work nights, the money on nails, gas, chainsaws, (beer) that goes into all of it. makes you appreciate the entire sport even more, trail builders truly are the backbone of mountain biking
We just got done fixing a muddy section that was still too damp to ride when MTBer comes through and leaves a nice mark right in front of us. Didn't say a word lol. Two more guys came up, saw us, walked around the mud, and said thank you for helping with trail work. That was the right approach haha.
The equestrians should have known better though. I don't think they give a shit about how much damage they cause.
I ran a trail day for a high school mtb team where we did maintenance and it was wet so the kids walked out uphill. I had to walk downhill back to my tool stash. On my way down I encountered an equestrian on the way up the trail to our fresh work (and had never seen an equestrian on that trail ever). All I could do is smile and wave. If putting up a new trail I have tried to make entrances/exits un-attractive to other user groups (e.g. steep roll, big low branches, etc.)
It's nice when people respect fresh work, but not everyone knows/cares to...
If your horse sucks that much keep it off busy multi use trails.
I wish we had a better form of trail association here; ours is split between too many groupings, usually between Parks staff and or individual cycling clubs, and as a result, there are too many legislative restraints put in place to protect government agencies from potential law suits. It's slowly changing, but in ten years, we still don't have drops bigger than 2ft.
The frustrating thing is finding that some riders blatantly ignore trail closures and ride the trails when they’re not finished or ready to be ridden, creating more work and delaying the opening. Even more frustrating when the riders responsible then stick a video on their YouTube channel boasting about their exploits.
From the guy who’s favorite trail is mailboxes SMH.
And yes those who build illegal trails are making life more enjoyable ????
You can do both
Put the split rung with the grain vertical or grain up when you nail it into a bridge or a stunt. As the (vertical) grain of the cedar wears it'll have that same vertical texture exposed which will have friction.
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Dave rules! Squamish is a better place because of him and his family.
CM!
CM!
Yet are the first people to cut down trees just for their own enjoyment, disturb the wildlife and leave crappy craft beer cans everywhere....
Not that I care, but the hypocrisy is amazing.
But I'll point out that it looked like the stringers Dave was cutting were already blowdown, and that you can find perfectly good slats in large cedars that have been down for 20+ years. I don't think these guys had to cut anything down to rebuild that bridge.
It's a tradeoff that is kind of analogous to zoos. Some people are frustrated that animals are in cages (or a tree or 2 is cut and some gas is burned to build a bridge), but those costs can yield the benefit of getting people interested in conservation; either by learning about captive animals in the zoo analogy or getting out and appreciating the local environment with mtb trails.