If you like the trail, buy the trailbuilders a beer! If you've ridden it in the wet, buy 2! If you are promoting your brand, buy 20! This trail is Zero Percent funded and 100% volunteer build and maintained. Beer helped build this trail and continues to fuel it's maintenance.
@flipfantasia: Yep, just tell the guys at Handlebar pub that you'd like to add to the Dark Crystal tab! So far we've gotten a few very appreciated beers and one case.
That trail was on my bucket list for 2019, but the days I was up in Whistler it was raining, so I rode other trails and respected the builders requested to avoid riding it in the rain. 2020 bucket list trail for sure........IN THE DRY
My Nye resolution was to be happier in 2020. With the amout of snow outside and living close to the bottom of this trail I don't think I can watch this right now
I was just thinking the same thing... I feel warm inside when I watch this, then I glance outside and see 35 degree sideways rain. I wanna punch that cloud in the tooth.
sorry @jazzawil- with it being 41 degrees celsius (1,000,000 Fahrenheit) outside and half my country burning out of control I just can't feel your pain. Wax up whatever you slide and go love it, my man...
@CRAFTY-P: I'm from Victoria, I know what's happening at home. If I could send over some of the this rain and snow I would. Heard a few from the local fire crew from here were heading over soon to help out. Insane for only the start of January
I did like it, but I sure had more expectations as the hype is always been so high about this trail. I wouldn't say it sucks, no trail does, but there is plenty of other trails that are better (to me) and have unique features, views, harder to reach, rarely ridden, in the valley. Let's say as I don't live in Whis anymore, whenever I'll go back I'll ride something else, but than, there is so much..!
@holydirt: not strong with sarcasm my young Padawan. The trail is rad, got some fresh sections last year that were all time in my opinion but it's not for everyone.
Probably my favorite trail of 2019. Rode it in the pissing rain at the end of a bike trip to Whistler with some buddies. Good times. The extra slippery factor made it all the more fun. (thumbs up emoji, hang loose, hang loose, bike emoji)
Please don't ride trails like that in the wet, that's a huge part of what destroys them. The soil is just way too soft to cope. Ride stuff that's rockier or on siltier soil - there are a ton of good wet weather trails in Whistler.
@BCDragon: Problem is the hype ensures people will ride it no matter what, and I kind of understand their mentality: they have spent a lot (thousands?) to come to Whistler to ride and only have X number of days/rides.
I feel for the builder though. It is an awesome trail and must hurt when their hard work gets shit kicked in wet periods.
Worst I've seen is tourists on ebikes doing multiple laps in a day on it... ugh.
@Socket @BCDragon: Are E-bikes allowed? If they are, kick rocks. I dont like ebikes but if they are allowed and they are destroying the trails, get with the right folks and ban them, or build where there is no E-bike access in the first place.
Are there signs letting everyone know not to ride in the rain? If not, again, shut up and fix it with signage or trail closures. You cant expect every person that goes the most popular MTB destination in thew world to know this shit. I live in the PNW as well, 99.9% of the trails are made to run great in the wet, you cant just expect people to know that this one trail is the exception.
Sorry you gatekeeping locals can't keep your precious loamy trail a secret. All trails start loamy and badass in this part of the world, then people ride them and it gradually turns into a classic PNW trail that can be ridden year round and enjoyed by everyone at anytime.
@terr0r86: E bikes are not allowed, there is signage at the trailhead and on Trailforks the description and builder request that it not be ridden in the wet.
@priest55: this is why the UK’s better than everyone else despite having no mountains or ski resorts or any tracks longer than 2 mins long. What they consider ruined we’d call riding in.
@jfrizzle: I wish there was a way to better enforce this. The amount of ebikes that whiz by me on the climb and end up on the trail is annoying. There are even videos on Trailforks with people advertising riding an ebike on dark crystal
@thenotoriousmic: na mate, we just make the best of the little we have. I'd marry anyone on here from Canada to access those sweet sweet trails. Lookin at you BC locals, hit me up yeah, i'm a good cook...
@terr0r86: if you ride Dark Crystal, you pass several signs that indicate if the trail is open or not on your way up the fire road. They start right at the parking lot. If you ignore those, there is another one at the junction where Hey Bud and Micro Climate start. Whister does a good job at keeping these up to date on a daily basis.
@priest55: Canada has a lot of everything except World Cup wins where we don’t have much but more World Cup wins than I could even begin to count. Explain that one.
@thenotoriousmic: yeah but this isn't a racetrack. I'm all for blown out, rough as f*ck racecourses with wheel swallowing holes in them, that stuff is awesome fun to ride and race - but there's already a ton of those. If you want to go ride stuff that's thoroughly "ridden in" (or just more weatherproof) there is a ton of it in the bike park, in Pemby, Squamish, North Shore, even elsewhere in Whistler. But this is a different type of trail, with really soft soil, that's friggin amazing to ride if it's in good shape. But unlike race courses, this is distinctly less enjoyable when it's blown out and has holes all through it, and riding it in the wet is the most efficient way to install brand new holes in the trail.
Arguing otherwise is the same kind of mentality as wanting to dumb down really gnarly trails - that just isn't what that trail is about. Don't f*ck loamers up for everyone else.
Cheers!
I wouldn't say it sucks, no trail does, but there is plenty of other trails that are better (to me) and have unique features, views, harder to reach, rarely ridden, in the valley.
Let's say as I don't live in Whis anymore, whenever I'll go back I'll ride something else, but than, there is so much..!
The trail is rad, got some fresh sections last year that were all time in my opinion but it's not for everyone.
Trail looks like and handful though ???? (gnarly emoji).
I feel for the builder though. It is an awesome trail and must hurt when their hard work gets shit kicked in wet periods.
Worst I've seen is tourists on ebikes doing multiple laps in a day on it... ugh.
Are there signs letting everyone know not to ride in the rain? If not, again, shut up and fix it with signage or trail closures. You cant expect every person that goes the most popular MTB destination in thew world to know this shit. I live in the PNW as well, 99.9% of the trails are made to run great in the wet, you cant just expect people to know that this one trail is the exception.
Sorry you gatekeeping locals can't keep your precious loamy trail a secret. All trails start loamy and badass in this part of the world, then people ride them and it gradually turns into a classic PNW trail that can be ridden year round and enjoyed by everyone at anytime.
Arguing otherwise is the same kind of mentality as wanting to dumb down really gnarly trails - that just isn't what that trail is about. Don't f*ck loamers up for everyone else.