Video: And They're Off: Part Two - Pinkbike Academy Season 3 EP 3

 only 4 women so they couldn't get rid of one.

 @tuskenraider: ya f*ck that guy, worked years to get an opportunity like that just to have it ripped away from clipping a tree branch! what a crybaby! How dare you get upset for 10 minutes in an interview that they wanted you to show emotion and realness in. Huge softy if you ask me hahahahah race me bro

 @Bvanunen: careful - he’s from Illinois and he rides a niner

 @Bvanunen: Don't listen to these jealous idiots bro. Their generation bottled everything up and then channeled that energy into beating their wives and just being miserable pricks to everyone. You didn't deserve to be sent home, but given the heart you showed to even attempt racing with those injures, I'm sure you're gonna bounce back stronger.

 @charliewentoutside: Im just having fun messing with them. Overwhelmed with the support and the least bit offended by any internet trolls. Wouldn’t be as fun without some haters though hahaha

 @Bvanunen: glad to hear it my dude, love your attitude!

 Man the one girl could barely ride down some of the trails let alone ride them at pace... When a '30k and a pro contract' is on the line there is no reason she should be in the competition after seeing that. That may sound harsh but seriously, if you've ever ridden big white you will know where I'm coming from here, its not an overly technical park. Her positive attitude, being appreciative of the opportunity etc aside, her riding ability is not on the same level as the rest of the competitors by a long shot.

 @Bvanunen: Brody for prez!

 @tuskenraider: Ouch man - hope you've recovered:

youtu.be/6DkUMyi3Mxg?t=36

 @FUbob: I'm thinking you don't have any friends and this is as close as you get to interaction with people. Hint: you're doing it wrong. Douchebag.

 @FUbob: If you watch the video, you'll see that Brody is crying because of relief, joy, elation, and pride at his 2nd place performance. So yes, he's crying, but there's more to it. If you look into why he's crying, you'll see a deeper story and one you might very well agree with.

The rhetoric that crying = weakness is really a fallacy in my opinion. The reality is that each person has the entire range of human emotions, and most of us just display the socially appropriate ones (anger, happiness are the most common). It takes true strength to accept the entirety of human emotion, not just the ones we like, or support our persona. Because denial, well, that would just be weak, wouldn't it?

Ridiculing an entire generation too, I'm curious as to why you think that, can you explain? That's like, wishing doom on the entire world after you kicked the bucket. It's shooting humanity in the foot imo. This generation's done a ton of incredible things already, and they'll become leaders inheriting the world after we're dead and gone. I'm personally stoked on them and hope they do a better job than we did

At any rate, posting this in hopes of sparking a legitimately thoughtful discussion that could expand my mind and not getting a flippant response.

 @VPS13: I just wonder but she may have a bmx background they’ve kept hidden??

 Don't worry, Amanda will be sent home next or soon

 @djyosh: drive.google.com/file/d/14onlKE8XzgBzxjb2250TKc8PTiwE6qmM/view?usp=share_link I handle those a little better.....

 @tuskenraider: The real issue is people that cant handle a bit of emotion without getting angry at an entire generation.

 I said to my son when we were watching it that I wouldn’t be surprised if Brody was back for a future season.

 #brodygotrobbed

 Love you guys!

 @Bvanunen: Was really surprised. Fuel = Fire. Show them.

 @Bvanunen: wishing you all the best buddy, that was impressive

 so youre telling me pb made a mistake and allowed him to compete despite his condition and then just 'eliminated' the guy and noone mentioned he shouldnt have been riding in a 1st place, just pretended its all cool and he was too poor?

gotta love television

 I wish I would've read this comment before watching the three episodes! Now I want a PBA jersey with Bluth on the back.

 Yes it was.

I think that the elimination would benefit hugely from ‘audience vote’ - many many experienced riders (on here) making a collective judgement about the rank order. This is based on really good theory in educational assessment - Thurston’s work in the 1930s. I think the results for the last academy and this one re elimination would have been very different and far more valid. And why not keep all the contestants in for many more episodes and then start eliminating?

 Cam is a legend! Came into the back after and was like "f*ck that was not fun, I felt like a d*ck" hahahaha, i said "Cam its all good bro, no stress"

 @Bvanunen: Good to hear the reality of what went down, I forgot that this is entertainment.

 @Bvanunen: I'll be honest - I assumed the drama was fake for the show and the behind the scenes they'd talked to you and decided it was too bad an injury for you to carry on. Was that not the case?

 @vercorin1: I'm fairly certain the entire show is shot in the period of a week or two. To have eliminations based on audience votes, they'd have to be shooting the show in sync with when the episodes are released, and they'd have to be able to edit and finish episodes FAST. Extending the shooting schedule like 4X and requiring a much tighter editing turnaround would make it a way, WAY more expensive show to produce.

 @charliewentoutside: maybe a "second chance" vote from the audience, for inclusion in the next season's competition.

 That would be a fantastic format! Give the riders a chance to learn and grow!!

 Agreed.

 Yup that.... They should keep all riders in for the full duration of the show, it can then be based upon who improves as well... You never know, the first person home could end up being the best after time, tuition, learning, riding... but they don't get the chance. Elimination is pointless... we want to see riding.

 @weeksy59: Especially since I believe all the riders stay there for the duration of the taping, anyway.

 Disagree! This isn't big brother or survivor. These are young aspiring professional riders looking for an opportunity to kick-start their career. It's not make or break for them - but getting a full season pro deal is a huge carrot! Pinkbike should also maybe review their due diligence on how they recruit the participants. This would be much more exciting viewing if we had 8 legitimate potential pro racers battling each other! Seems each year 1 or 2 weekend warriors seems to get in.

 @ponyboy24: “getting a full season pro deal…” that is a good point. This helps them build a platform. Perhaps similar to how chefs get lots of show that boost their careers.

After thinking about this a bit more, given the production timetable (maybe a week or two) I wonder if Brody was pretty hurt so two weeks pushing it would eventually hurt the poor guy — that would be a legitimate concern for the show as well. His performance might not show his true strength so locking up a pro deal with all his heart would not maybe be enough if he couldn’t be fastest.

 @penguinni: then vote him out based on that logic. Don't make a drama about his performance being the reason he was kicked out.

 Do you have experience with the longer travel mrp options?
I have been very happy with my 120mm mrp SL. So much so that I got rid of my fox 34 Factory.

 Loving my Ribbon coil!

 @Ososmash: yep, had a Ribbon air a few years back. Was not impressed unfortunately, The airspring was very lackluster and the damping adjustments ineffective. The bushings were also ovalized after about 3 months. MRP and local dealer were good to deal with however as a positive.

 @Brasher: That was my experience with the Ribbon air also. I had one in 2018. They improved their internals (Chocolux) and I am riding the shorter travel option SL. and have been much happier.

I couldn't find any recent reviews of their newer enduro forks (the 170mm options have slight changes to them like a more robust crown). And I was curious what those were like.

 Amazing right!

 I kinda wonder if ep 2 & 3 were released a week early. Otherwise why not just string them into one giant episode?

Edit: hmm looks intentional, I see 3 separate links on the front page.

 @robomatic: we decided to release EP 1, 2, and 3 all at the same time to get people into the series. Then it'll be weekly releases on Tuesdays at 10am PST until the finale on December 20th.

 Someone wants to keep us seated

 @robomatic: they were autoreleased

 @brianpark: Oh great, I wasn't planning to get any work done today anyway.

 @brianpark: Thanks! I think y'all auto uploaded the three at the same time, and 2 an 3 were out of order on the watch list on YouTube because one uploaded earlier than the others. i thought it was weird episode 2 picked up mid-enduro, but then realized they were out of order. Total first-world problem "complaint", but maybe something to be mindful of in future series. Happens to me sometimes at my job, too.

You guys do a great job.

 It would also be great if they gave the viewers more than 1.3 seconds to view and absorb the timing results they do put up. I also don't understand why they initially put up the names in an order that's not fastest to slowest, then rearrange them. Strange. Why don't they use that screen time to just show us the times, straight up?

 @zwa2: That is why there is a "pause" "button"...

 I gotta wonder if his injuries were worse than they let on in the show. I mean I know he’s young but there’s only so much pain he can put up with for so many days in a row. They’re not really there for weeks on end, the impression I get is that it’s about a two week filming period at most so not a lot of time to recover between challenges.

It is a huge bummer he got sent home. I hope he at least benefits from the exposure from being on the show.

 @ridebikesyall: they were. Brody responded on YouTube that he wasn't able to ride for 5 weeks and pinkbike made the right call.

 @Ososmash: No matter what they say on video no one will understand the kind of pain I was going through, not only that day but for weeks afterword's. I had to go home that night, there was no way I was getting back on a bike. Im glad people think I road decent but to me I felt like a grandpa out there. There's parts that don't make it in, like me standing dead stop on a fire road mid stage having no clue where to go thinking I took a wrong turn or something. To conclude, I truly believe and know my pace could have been right up there with Tarmo, even though he is one of the fastest riders I have had the pleasure to ride with!

 @Bvanunen: good on you mate, and hope you are healed up and shredding again!

Regards the show, they still could have been genuine and authentic in the reasons for kicking you out. Rather than making such a fake melodramatic show that it was because of your results!

You should probably work on your mechanic skills though ripping of a broken chain won't help you much in Enduro haha

 @Bvanunen:
Now knowing you felt you would have been a threat for Tarmo if you we’re not injured, I just want you to be there on PA season 4 and lots of folks (myself included) will be cheering for you!!

 Brody looked really fast even injured in a couple of those stages, I think he would have been a good competitor for Tarmo. Healthy I think he definitely would've made it into the top 5.

 @Bvanunen: let's go dude, would've loved to see you healthy and competing.

 For sure! I'm sure pinkbike will find a way to get him kicked out early though

 @ponyboy24: why would they?

 Tarmo is the beast. He raced in U21 category but overall top-30 result in EWS Crans Montana (faster than Sam Hill)
admin.enduroworldseries.com/uploads/documents/races/1663517590.pdf

 @bobjakovski: thanks for the detail!

 Can't have a finn that is not a flying one. Way to go Tarmo!

 Why would his sponsors mind? I think Max wouldn't be in the competition if he already had his "set for life" sponsors and deal.

 @HCPeltsi: because they foot the bill for him to produce content as an athlete for their brands? why do world cup riders sharpie out maxxis cut spikes on muddy tracks?

 @huculaker: So there might be a chance that those 2 sides have negotiated about the situation and found an agreement about the case? Dunno, lets find Max and ask him. In any case, these are adult people, so there is a slight possibility that they have got this thing sorted out before the rider even started in the show.

 @HCPeltsi: yeah was just curious. always thought max was more into chucking his meat and producing content; rather than winning races… jumps for show, corners for dough

 Appreciate the love bro!

 Well bike mechanics is a massive part of riding for many. Not many youngsters can throw £100 here and there to a LBS to get their stem centered or change a gear inner... Imagine you're on an EWS stage and your chain comes off.. "Oh it's OK, i'll just walk down to town and get a new chain while having a latte".... Not good enough. To race EWS (or any Enduros) you need to be able to spanner your bike (even with a rock !)

 Thanks so much dude!

 I did like the longer format episodes of episode 2. Maybe the rushed feeling comes from the "commercial break" show transitions that are shown every 2 minutes...

 Based off Attitude

 agreed