Christina brings a gun to a knife fight when she tackles her local XC "race" on her enduro bike. Can she set the fastest time? Or will she need to unleash her secret weapon?
It's weird, every time I'm on pavement with a bike, my competitive nature triples compared to riding trails. And I've never raced road or XC, it's just a strange phenomenon.
The amount of times iv finished a long, exhausting day labouring but then an ebike has overtaken me going up the short punchy hill on the way home.. needless to say i always take them on the long downhill afterwood and die trying to hold them off on the flat
@christinachappetta I call rematch! At least let me lay down a race time... you can keep the little bike and I'll race an enduro? Consider it a challenge
Chloe should go do a race pace lap (and likely get the fastest time). Then these two racers should do a head to head battle on course at the same time (someone should broadcast it) to settle the score.
The content that @christinachappetta has been putting out is fantastic. @pinkbike made a great decisions to add her and @tombrad to the content creation team. Keep it up, I get excited every time a see a post with one of your names!
@christinachappetta: "that fudge thing was probably not the best move" has got the be the most relatable "I'm a serious athlete doing a less serious thing" thing I've ever heard.
@cgreaseman: It takes a lot more work to get good at downhill...plus you have that pesky injury risk that a lot of uphillers don't like to accept...therefore--downhill is more rewarding.
@cgreaseman: although I definitely wouldn't agree that one's harder than the other, being fast on the descents is loads of work and the risks are obviously higher as well.
@conoat: Being fast on a techy climb is about more than just fitness. Chances are good if you can rip up tech climbs, you've got the skills to rip on the downs as well, as well as having the legs and lungs to blow the doors off "pure descenders" who slow down once gravity stops pulling as hard.
@cgreaseman: I want to be fast uphill and downhill. I put in a fair amount of work to get there for an average Joe. Based on my ultra-scientific Strava leaderboard results....it's more difficult to be the fastest DOWNHILL.
I really like going up and down; my personal MTB center is really in that all rounder space where my favorite rides have tough climbs, scary downs; fast parts, slow parts, etc. Straight up old school XC, weight weenie stuff on basically groomed trails... fun, definitely not my favorite. Big mountain DH days... fun, but I miss the challenges of the climbs.
Climbing is easy to point to as more demanding from a fitness perspective, but it definitely takes skill to manage a techy climb fast. Descending is easy to point out as a skill biased part of the ride... but anyone that's actually hustled down a mountain knows it is brutal on the body and wears you out. Definitely need fitness.
The big difference, and where your KOMs show up going down, my opinion and where I start to fall short of the faster guys... the willingness/bravery to go with the skills to kit the nastiest stuff at warp speed. Staying off the breaks, pushing ugly corners, etc - that's where going down breaks with going up - up doesn't have nearly the pucker factor.
@cgreaseman: depends on the up and down. Even a long climb up to 11 or 12 thousand feet above sea level isn’t that hard if it’s mellow 2 track or a fire road (if you’re fit).
Plenty of descents are accessed by a long but mellow grind but are really, really hard.
@Stoaks: Conoat stirring the polarized proverbial once again. Getting drug to Jolly Old by his wife didn't change the way he gets his jollies one jot. Now can we view the race again with tires and displicine-specific outerwear swapped, and an emphasis on second person camera positions. For science
@cgreaseman: going fast uphill is a lot of work but mostly based on fitness which can be done following a training plan meticulously. Going fast downhill requires fitness level almost as much as XC, much more skills than XC but this can be trained, and the ability to consistently overcome fear to break through the next speed plateau. So the dedication and effort is not comparable, mostly anyone can follow a regimented training plan with a bit of motivation.
@cgreaseman: now that is a heavy shovel on the fan. As a person who is struggling with being stuck in the same result percentage in enduro race, I would definitely disagree with that. You need a ton of training and dedication to be fast on the way down: you have to be strong to push hard out of the corners, have the endurance to be able to choose your line in splits of a second after 3 minutes of ongoing effort (while your brain is screaming for more oxygen), have the skills sharpened on pumptrack/flow trails to be able to pump through the terrain, know where to put your weight in flat corners. Gosh, the amount of dedication you need to put to be fast downhill on 5 stages after 1300 vertical meters is comparable to what you need to do to get into hobby MMA fighting. On the other hand if you want to be fast on uphills you just do your interval program and lift in the winter. XC is not (only) about the uphills. It's about the mental game and endurance, technique. And to prove my point, do you know a lot of races where the only thing you need to do is to pedal uphill on a straight road?
@eugen-fried: to be fast on the uphill you “just do your interval and lift in the winter”?
I think this greatly discounts the mental effort it takes to blow you lungs out on those intervals to the point that you’re a competitive uphill rider.
Nobody is denying that training DH is hard, or that downhill riding exhausts you. However, I find it mentally much easier to push myself hard and train downhill than I do to crush climbs.
The two aren’t really equivalent and it’s hard to compare them, but saying that some simple workouts will make you crush all the uphills is just wrong.
I raced High Cascade 100 - great race, why anyone wants to MTB 100 miles is still a question I can't answer. On a sustained downhill I passed a huge number of riders, after the downhill there was a gravel climb. I got passed by all those riders on the uphill - they all complimented me on my descending skill, lots of them were really excited to talk to me about about how fun it was to see me descend as they easily pedaled past me on a gravel uphill... sigh.
@jeredbogli: I've been there, would always be overtaking everyone on the descents, but get immediately overtaken when the climbing starts! Ultimately in these types of races, you save seconds by being fast on the descents, but you save minutes by being fast on the climbs!
@TypicalCanadian: blowing your lungs out is uncomfortable and if you fail you simply won't be as fit. Failing in DH means you will most likely impact your physical integrity at varying levels from scratch to spinal cord injury. Being able to overcome this mental limit is much harder full stop and there is no magic juice to help either. Pretty much all sports related to running, road, xc, cyclo, rowing and so on imply overcoming the muscle burning discomfort. Few sports have potential life threatening aspects to it, like MX, Dh, MMA, bmx, skate and so on. Not surprisingly much more people get involved in the first category, much less in the second, but those you see doing the buzz isn't some ultra trail runner that have been running 24h+ on 10,000m of elevation (even though at that point the impact on physical integrity is debatable but not in the spectacular way of adrenaline sports).
@Balgaroth: gonna disagree with you since you’re clearly confused about what I said. Riding DH fast as you can is fun for most of us. Crushing yourself on climbs really isn’t. I was talking about the mental fortitude involved in pushing yourself physically, not about a fear of getting seriously hurt (which you’re being rather over dramatic about).
We ride fast down big lines because it’s fun... not the same as crushing huge uphills.
@TypicalCanadian: all the people that like cardio or strength sports (me included) enjoy and find fun in the pain of pushing yourself. Basically all reward, very little risk. Downhill or most adrenaline sports imply taking some risks to fall and hurt yourself, at least if you want to progress and be half decent and the further your progress the higher the risk. I feel fine on 2/3m wide doubles or 5m tables but now if I want to keep progressing I should try similar obstacles but 2m longer. This implies going faster which will hurt more if I fail to commit or make a mistake. If I go for a run that is 10% longer than what I am comfortable running or go 10% faster than last time worse case scenario I walk back home with sore legs and lungs and will be fine the next day. I personally find it much easier to improve my fitness than to get faster/better at DH, despite DH being my favorite sport no discussion.
@TypicalCanadian: and not sure I am being over dramatic, over the last year in my riding group we had one broken pelvis, one broken ankle, many sprains, and we are all vetted riders that have being doing DH and enduro for years. Not sure you would see such quantity and level of injury in a 10 people group of XC riders or trail runners, even the most competitive ones. But I must be over dramatic indeed.
I love Christina's in-ride commentary. I say this stuff to myself all the time, good to know I am not the only one.
Christina is a way better rider than I am, but a really like how relatable she is!
Yup. I love reading the pro XC articles too, but their level of toughness is generally just a head scratcher. Courtney jumping into an ice bath like it's nothing, Pidcock riding after less than a week with a smashed collarbone, Pendrel racing World Cup 3 months after giving birth... They're definitely made of different stuff.
Does anyone know the soft water bladder/bottle used at 5 min? Been trying to find something similar to stash in my fanny pack, err I mean enduro lumbar storage container.
I wish someday, someone would invent some way to just search for information like that... Until then I guess we just have to ask people if they know the answer.
@stiingya: Google reverse image search attempts to do that, but falls short unless you get a really good snapshot. Trying just now with a screenshot of the bladder from 5:01 yielded a bunch of blue dresses and people in graduation gowns, lol
Used to be called 'Loonie Race' way back and you'd get beer and burger after. Some days it was a Enduro race, sometimes it was a hill climb, sometimes it was a DH, and all on v-brakes.
Well, Covid has put a damper to that. Fortunately our local supporters and businesses are still offering prizes to participants in our virtual toonies, and many are providing coupons for food and beer at local establishments! As we get into July, we hope to go full real-time and bring back the BBQ's and mixed race formats. We're so close to being allowed again.
Great to watch some XC. I like the back-to-back comparison of your rides. Would be fun to have a contest with PBers who have a smart trainer and are willing to ride the course as well and post times. Sure some will cheat but just getting them to ride is a plus. Good article. Most riders are over-biked and you are riding that whippet well.
also I wouldn't mind riding those trails, they look like fun, even on the up. Almost makes me want to go out for a few weeks to clear roots, rocks, trees and soggy loam from the "XC-trails" here. That firm dirt...yummy!
Just watching someone eat an energy gel turns my stomach, and I don't think I've had one since 1994. Much prefer a Snickers bar now, and no associated flatulence.
Does anyone know what wrist brace Christina is wearing in this video? As someone who is dealing with major wrist issues right now, any info would be helpful.
When did 120mm become an XC bike? My perception of XC bike has long been no more than 100mm maybe 110mm. 120mm just seems like a short travel Trail bike to me.
@MB3: There you go. So she didn't bring an XC bike to improve her time in the XC race, she brought a DC bike and the DC bike did better than the EN bike...so if she actually brought an XC bike what might happen?
@mrkkbb: I sill remember when 50mm suspension was considered cutting edge. Team Ritchey didn’t even have that… they won races with Softride / Allsop suspension stems.
@SuperHighBeam: not sure if the Trek Supercaliber would have done better than the Top Fuel on that trail. Maybe, but I’ve heard that more and more people are opting to run Downcountry bikes at the BC Bike Race, which has a stage in Squamish. I’m sure even Jolanda Neff might choose a DC bike if the trail was punishing enough.
@MB3: Perhaps, but this was for a toonie XC race and Christina was competing against an XC racer that was presumably on an XC bike. The second bike she rode was not an XC bike, so she established a better comparative performance but not a true comparative performance. Yes a DC bike may be more appropriate for that trail, but if we're benchmarking an XC race against XC pros than an XC bike should be used. If XC pros aren't riding XC bikes anymore and now riding XC/DC/TR depending on the trail conditions that's something else altogether.
Nerd question-what length steerer on the Slash? I'd love to run a OneUp steerer tube tool, but my steerer is a little short per their sizing (stock Lyrik on a Reign).
“I don’t care. I don’t care so much that I’m going to scroll on the way down here to comment how little I care. I don’t know that nobody cares that I don’t care. But if I did, I wouldn’t care that they don’t care that I don’t care”
and Mike Levy has to race it on the Grim Donut
Then these two racers should do a head to head battle on course at the same time (someone should broadcast it) to settle the score.
“That’s just something fat people say.”
Climbing is easy to point to as more demanding from a fitness perspective, but it definitely takes skill to manage a techy climb fast. Descending is easy to point out as a skill biased part of the ride... but anyone that's actually hustled down a mountain knows it is brutal on the body and wears you out. Definitely need fitness.
The big difference, and where your KOMs show up going down, my opinion and where I start to fall short of the faster guys... the willingness/bravery to go with the skills to kit the nastiest stuff at warp speed. Staying off the breaks, pushing ugly corners, etc - that's where going down breaks with going up - up doesn't have nearly the pucker factor.
Plenty of descents are accessed by a long but mellow grind but are really, really hard.
Seriously guys?
On the other hand if you want to be fast on uphills you just do your interval program and lift in the winter.
XC is not (only) about the uphills. It's about the mental game and endurance, technique. And to prove my point, do you know a lot of races where the only thing you need to do is to pedal uphill on a straight road?
I think this greatly discounts the mental effort it takes to blow you lungs out on those intervals to the point that you’re a competitive uphill rider.
Nobody is denying that training DH is hard, or that downhill riding exhausts you. However, I find it mentally much easier to push myself hard and train downhill than I do to crush climbs.
The two aren’t really equivalent and it’s hard to compare them, but saying that some simple workouts will make you crush all the uphills is just wrong.
not about a fear of getting seriously hurt (which you’re being rather over dramatic about).
We ride fast down big lines because it’s fun... not the same as crushing huge uphills.
I did that toonie loop (in the middle of a larger ride in 22.14 on a trail hardtail so a minute off Christina's time sounds OK to me!
Great video - looking forward to more!
Now, what is that contraption on the right wrist?!
Got it
Thanks #Christinachappetta
Lookin good as always
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