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Video: Classic Utah Riding & Life As The KHS Team Manager with Logan Binggeli
Jun 1, 2020
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Logan Binggeli talks about his life in mountain biking and his new role as the KHS Pro MTB Team Manager and his plans for the team going forward.
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(Jun 1, 2020 at 15:13)
KHS is still making bikes?
(Jun 1, 2020 at 19:04)
Money laundering. . . . . .
(Jun 1, 2020 at 19:29)
Make more quality bikes than Giant now.
(Jun 1, 2020 at 20:04)
: well Astro makes the KHS, mondraker, several other brands. KHS is just a sticker set.
(Jun 1, 2020 at 20:46)
: that means nothing...
Merida makes Specialized... Specialized is just a sticker set.... Means nothing
(Jun 2, 2020 at 2:16)
: it absolutely makes a difference. Astro calog stuff is Astro stuff. And Specialized is Specialized....and by that I mean.
Astro makes cheap. Cheap. Cheap. OEM. Mass produced. Easily accessible parts and bikes. However, I appreciate astro because they are able to keep prices down on oem spec bikes and parts and keep the sport *somewhat* accessible to more people. Some of their stuff works, some doesn't, but hey I guess that's what you get when it's a Chinese mass production catalogue. That being said, in my opinion, being associated with Astro is not exactly a compliment. The fact is that you can buy the same KHS bikes in Europe under one brand name in Europe, a different one in Asia, a third one in S. America and of course as KHS in N. America. For a company like KHS they probably work pretty good and here's why: KHS makes a boat load more money off their wholesale distribution catalog than they do off bikes these days. Being in bed with astro solves a huge manufacturing puzzle for them because they don't have to worry about it, they just tell Astro what they're looking for, and what to make it out of and POOF a KHS appears, whether it's your moms trike that she rides to the grocery store or Logan's carbon DH bike. This allows KHS to appeal much more to their target demographic, which is someone who will never drop $8-10k on a carbon superbikes, but just might unload $1.5-3k on a decent enough bike that's going to do most of what's asked of it.
Now Specialized is a whole different animal altogether. Yes we all know and can agree that in the early '00s Merida bought a portion of the company. I've seen it said anywhere from 8%-49%. What that means is that Dick (Mike) Sinyard is still the controlling owner and what he says goes. Opinions of Sinyard, his/their practices and the overall company aside. . . I think Specialized makes some of the absolute raddest bikes I've ever had the opportunity to throw a leg over. Now I will never in my life own another Specialized because Sinyard is a garbage human and hes doing everything in his power to milk local shops dry so his pockets get fatter. People with families to feed and hes fleecing them every chance he gets - but that's another argument for another time. When you look at specialized you see millions of dollars and thousands upon thousands of hours on R&D, Testing, Manufacturing Marketing etc. It would he hard to argue that S isn't one of the top brands in the world. The really do make some of the most innovative and well made products there are. - and that isnt hyperbole (of course, not everything is a winner *command post*) Now, yes, more than likely Merida owns the factory where the majority of their stuff is manufactured, but they're just contracting to the demands of what S says - the same as all premier brands. When you buy a S bike, you know that you're getting an actual S bike - not some carbon copy cookie cutter catalogue bike that, when you vacationed on S. America you saw dozens of locals riding the same thing with different branding that they paid pennies on the dollar compared to what you paid. And, when you talk manufacturing theres a whole'nother set of issues that differentiate the two. Dont sleep on the fact that S bikes are made in Taiwan. They are the world leader in Carbon manufacturing technology (materials, chemicals, environment, labor etc). Now think that Astro still builds most of their bikes in Vietnam and we are comparing apples to dog poo.
Now I know I have rambled on far too long and wasted too much of your all's time so I'm sorry for that.
(Jun 2, 2020 at 7:44)
@ 0:55 - Running over endangered Bearclaw Poppy is a bad look for mountain bikers. Actions like this are only harming access that mountain bikes will have in the future as a user group. Treat the land with some respect.
(Jun 1, 2020 at 15:20)
I bought a KHS once. Once.
(Jun 2, 2020 at 14:53)
me too! 1996
(Jun 2, 2020 at 22:45)
My father hung my KHS on a hook once. ONCE.
(Jun 1, 2020 at 15:57)
Knowledge, Health, Strength
(Jun 3, 2020 at 6:37)
Korean Hunk of Shit
(Jun 1, 2020 at 23:29)
Soooooo, what exactly happened to Q? Khs released a “retirement” video, apparently, it was a one sided retirement which Q was pretty vocal about?
(Jun 1, 2020 at 16:11)
Pinkbike: something something KHS something.
Me: Now there's a name I've not heard in a long, long time.
(Jun 1, 2020 at 16:31)
Logan is a good guy but yeah really surprised KHS is barely known.
(Jun 3, 2020 at 15:46)
Before spending money on a race team I'd give the brand a complete reboot. Updated geo, new branding and better marketing. There is literally nothing exciting about KHS as a brand currently.
(Jun 1, 2020 at 18:07)
I finally get it. Bing Lee. Hope all goes well with team and this works out for a long run.
(Jun 2, 2020 at 7:56)
What is KHS? And can you really have a "team" of 1?
(Jun 2, 2020 at 15:25)
They actually have a large amount of raw young talent on that team.
Walton and Nestoroff have pretty much been staples of the junior american circuit for 5+ years, and now they're into pros. They're still top of the pile in the American circuits and starting to show results on the world stage. Each of them has the potential to take the next step into the top tier of Americans, up there with the big boys. Kailey Skelton is a young ripper who's had some good results at GRT and Bootleg events.
On the freeride side you have Luke Whitlock who is pretty much a prodigy. He's been riding at a crazy high level for years now, and hes a great kid too. He definitely has the potential to be one of the next Crankworks - Rampage all stars. And riding and being mentored by Zink, Watts and Bas is a huge plus too.
(Jun 2, 2020 at 16:16)
Yeah it's interesting, they've had some great riders flow through there but (on paper) their (trail) bikes are lagging pretty far behind. Why not invest in your bikes, else why dump money into a race program that can't pay off?
That 6600 Logan is riding (according to their site) is full carbon w/ a vpp layout (no issue there) but the geo... oh my that geo. I know, such a troll geo nazi.
Glad Logan's had a long career with them so far. I'm just curious what bikes they're selling.
(Jun 2, 2020 at 16:19)
Never mind i see you answered that in your novel above!
It just seems strange that the large 'trail bike' market (where I fit) doesn't see a competitive offering from them.
(Jun 2, 2020 at 22:34)
Novella from Trudeez aside, nobody cares.
(Jun 3, 2020 at 10:28)
"i'm gunna win rampage"
Ends up in hospital
(Jun 2, 2020 at 8:35)
Korean Hunk of Shi................
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