After his horror crash in June
Gee Atherton has shared his latest injury update as he continues recovery.
|This was the biggest crash of my career, and I’ve had a lot of crashes! Rehab and return to sport are always a huge challenge after an injury, add to that multiple major trauma and it makes it one of the biggest challenges any athlete will face in their lifetime.|
The extent of my injuries forced me to change up everything when it comes to rehab, create new techniques, and work harder and longer than I ever have done before. It was apparent very early on that the usual routines were not going to be enough this time. We started physio earlier than we have ever done before to give us a better chance of 100% recovery, this is only something you can do with a team around you that you absolutely trust. I’ve worked with Doug Jones at Altius for a long time, he’s pushing me further than I would have dared myself, I know that I can trust him and his team entirely. The enormous amount of support that I’ve had and the huge number of questions about what and how to rehab various injuries has inspired me to put this edit together to showcase what we are currently doing in the recovery process - I hope it’s helpful.— Gee Atherton
Are you able to ride a road bike? When I was broken just getting out on two wheels improved my mood no end and when I was allowed to ride my mountain bike again I had a reasonable level of fitness.
Same for Gee; as a fan I absolutely!!! don’t expect them to do this insane stuff !
However, I think that's hard for any elite athlete to be okay with that approach. It can feel "stagnant".
I'm working my PT now and don't have a removal op planned yet, was hoping to get shoulder back to 100% (or close) before that surgery. Kind of can't wait to see this plate and eight screws in my hand as I wake up.
Its XC and gravel from here on out.
As far as the supposed misogynistic joke you think I stood up for, that's cause some ass hats can't take a joke.. it's was a f*cking joke. I personally stand up for people when there speech is attacked. What's even more funny is that you were lurking around for some type of ammo to throw at me from comments you weren't involved with and even one better my wife laughed at the joke...cause it was a joke. Please keep your limited views of speech in canuckastan.
You’re a legend!!!
So what if it is rare side effect? Serious injuries or death from mountain biking are also rare enough, and cycling is considered very health activity. But still news outlets do report on injuries.
You, PB, and other downvoters are the ones who are suppressing the news because of their political agenda.
Im not sure why you seems so hell bent to ignore the facts, I mean, injuries ARE a thing and it could very well happen to you AS WELL …Why dont you want to hear about it???
You really dont want to play the numbers game with athletes buddy, you loose that one a 1000 to 1…Theres literally dozen of reports of vaccinated athletes dropping on the field …
Almost everyone I know has had it and I haven't heard of a single case. You may have had an injury (no one EVER denied that there was no possibility of side effects), but the fact that you bring up a survival rate shows your bias against it, underestimating what the medical field is seeing first hand. Saskatchewan is shipping ICU patients to Ontario and they have cancelled many surgeries like transplants, cancer treatments etc. as our ICUs are overwhelmed with nonvaccinated covid patients.
Do you have some vaccine related political agenda?
Oh because you are using his unfortunate and incredibly rare circumstance, which he asked everyone NOT to politicize, as some kind of Gotcha to support your stupid selfish decisions not to mask up and get the vaccine.
Therefore chances of issues with the vaccine are about 1:1.2m. You are more than twice as likely to get hit by lightning (chances being 1:500K or thereabouts).
I think that people suffer very easily from hypochondria, get worked up, go to the Dr and they treat what the patient tells them is happening. It's f*cking nonsense tbh. Every antivaxxer seems to know several friends who have had "similar experiences".
If anecdotal evidence is worth so much then I don't know of anybody who has had similar experiences, nor did I, and I got the Pfizer. Literally everyone I know who got vaccinated (thankfully most people since I don't know too many antivax morons) experienced no issues.
There have been many more credible reports than the numbers in that link you have given. The vaers system in the US and the yellow card system in the UK have shown them to be much more common than originally thought. Governments have such a vested interest in saying they are safe now that there is very little incentive for them to investigate. Imagine the public uproar if it is shown that the vaccines were not as safe as they claimed?
Even on this thread there are 3 people claiming they have experienced mycardiaitis. But they are all being down voted. I don't understand how people are so trusting of a vaccine that has underwent almost no testing.
Just because you dont know of anyone, it doesnt make it false or rare… I dont know any smokers, yet millions of people are still smoking cigarettes
My wife's friend is responsible for reporting the data from the provincial health association. She has first hand access to all of this data - she has never encountered these staggering numbers that you claim...
I GOT THE SHOT, me, my own personal experience and was left with a pericarditis.What does that make me, a vaccinated anti vaxxers? Lol get real man
Also, if it is soooo fake and a joke, you dont find it alarming that we dont have a better system to log in adverse reactions to an experimental treatment?
Please provide links to these numbers. The CLOSEST one I could find is the Canadian Paedeatric Society's study that shows the incidence of ANY myocarditis/pericarditis is still 1 in 10,000 with a VAST majority being extremely mild. The burden on proof is on you. If you make a claim, back it up.
I'm real. My friend is now dead because he was against the vaccine. He asked the attending doctors for a vaccine before he was intubated. By that point, it was too late. He was a doctor. My last interaction with him was an argument about the vaccine. You might have heard of his case as it made the national news.
You're spewing purely anecdotal situations. It happened to you so now you think it's common.
VAERS was never meant to be a joke but it's been manipulated by scum to scare people. I don't think anyone should have the ability to self report to a publicly accessed database. The amount of misreporting, garbage data (whether intentional or unintentional) is ridiculous. The thing with databases is garbage data goes in, garbage results come out.
I'm not dismissing their experiences, I'm dismissing their claims that these side effects are as common as they are saying they are. Until they can provide data to back up their claims, they are providing anecdotes and nothing more.
Have you received pushback from reporting it? Or are you relying on Warner's case (1 single anecdote...)?
You are dismissing the billions of doses administered with an extremely low incidence of side effects. The data from the billions of doses comes from the health authorities of the respective jurisdictions. You can only question Pfizer on the initial data (data of which the billions of subsequent treatments appears to back up). If you don't like Pfizer for whatever reason, try a different brand. Try a non-mRNA vaccine. You're treating this as vaccine=Pfizer when that's not necessarily the case.
FYI, I received my vaccine in April and it also left me with a pericarditis.Going on 7 months of heart inflammation now.I have met and heard of dozens of similar stories in my own immediate circle…
Now find another insult than calling me antivaxxer.Politicians HAVE made this political…Pinkbike chooses to ignore it because it doesnt fit in with the main narrative and doesn’t benefit them …yet.Its time we start calling them out on it.
It wont make this very real situation go away just because you prefer to bury your head in the sand and ignore all of this…That vaxx doesnt prevent transmission or infection , cut the fake hero bullshit. I guarantee that if you ever get an injury from a jab you’ll quickly fall in the “selfish“ category…
oh and masks? Really lol, you still buying that dumb shit ?
I never said databases are garbage, I said VAERS is garbage. Databases are only as good as the data they contain. VAERS has garbage data therefore conclusions from VAERS are garbage.
I never said you were a liar either. It's very possible that you have experienced as side effect, but it's completely disingenuous to claim that the rate of side effects is so much higher because YOU experienced it. So you can drop that stance...it failed.
You do realise your friend dying of Covid (assuming he is under 50 and has no comorbidities) is extremely, extremely rare. We are talking 1 in 5000 chance of death for that demographic and getting lower and lower the further away from old age that you get.
You keep saying it's rare for vaccine side effects. My fiance spent a night with her heart rate elevated to 140bpm, getting cold shakes and sweats and had a headache for a week after getting her first AZ shot. A customer of mine who got Moderna had to go to hospital twice after receiving his shots. And as I said earlier, my contractor whose wife died suddenly and unexpectedly within 48 hours of having the pfizer shot. None of this is recorded in any database. Yet you are claiming that we should entirely ignore our own experiences and rely on data that isn't being recorded?
And you're saying that the chance of dying (1 in 5000) is a better option than the chance of having a pericarditis/myocarditis (the data that I have found is still less than 1 in 10,000 in the most susceptible group - and a majority of the cases are very mild)?
Your fiance has what sounds like a fairly severe immune system response. An immune system response isn't a bad thing. Inconvenient, yes.
You didn't say what your customer went to the hospital for. Your contractors wife who died within 48 hours? That is outside the window typically expected for anaphylaxis reactions, yet before what is typically expected from one of the other potential side effects. You have to realize that correlation does not equal causation.
And I never said that you should rely on data that isn't being recorded, I said you should rely on data that IS being recorded by professionals that are trained in that area of study.
It's a good thing they aren't granted immunity from liability, because they clearly don't need it! Oh wait...
And if you don't like Pfizer, pick one of the many other ones. If you don't believe Pfizer's data, how about all the subsequent data after the vaccines have been rolled out? The data collected by the medical community at the front lines?
The vitriol at anyone who speaks out with even the hint of a doubt about the vaccines is insane. We can even see it here where people who have been injured are being downvited just for saying it. I don't understand why you would downvited someone for saying something that happened them. Of course, most people seem to get very angry at outliers. Humans are a pack animal and hate anyone who doesn't go along with the mob mentality.
And for the 3rd time, I have NOT discounted these guys claims that they have suffered side effects. But until the data from the medical community shows otherwise, I will discount their claims that side effects are happening at a much higher incidence than what's being reported by those who deal directly with these caes. There has never been a claim of the vaccines being 100% safe or effective. The claims being made is that they are RELATIVELY safer than taking your chances with the virus while unvaccinated. Now show me data that disputes that.
I'll just leave you with this. The swine flu vaccine Pandremix came out under emergency use authorisation in 2009. It was considered safe and vaccine manufacturers told everyone they should and could take it. Fortunately things weren't as bat shit crazy back then and it wasn't rolled out on as widespread a basis. It is estimated that 27 people died of swine flu in this country in 2009. Pandremix on the other hand, has been directly linked with 35 cases of severe narcolepsy to the point that the government has awarded several teenagers over €4.5 million each in compensation and there are a number of other lawsuits ongoing. I can only image the vitriol these "trust the science" people like yourself would treat those people with nowadays. They would be on the receiving end of enormous amounts of hatred and bile for making up such unproven claims. Remember, at the time the government and vaccine manufacturers would have told everyone there is no link and that they had passed all safety tests.
So you ask me to show you the data that says the vaccines aren't safer relatively than the virus. I can't right now but guess what, if this was 2009 I couldn't show you that pandremix was far more likely to hurt you than the Swine Flu it was supposed to prevent was. When you fast track vaccines you cannot possibly know all of the safety risks. At the end of the day, more people ended up with severe life altering side effects than lives were saved by this vaccine. And what made it worse was that almost all the people who ended up with sever narcolepsy were young teenagers with their lives ruined. How on earth could you possibly know that same thing isn't happening now? But go ahead, just blindly trust companies that have a history of exploiting situations to make money and ignore the medical professionals who are more skeptical.
In Saskatchewan we are seeing collateral damage from people refusing the vaccines. Less that 20% of our population is now making up over 70% of those hospitalized with Covid. Our ICU's are bunged up, procedures are being cancelled to accommodate the overloaded ICUs. Covid patients are being shipped to Ontario for treatment. A significant number that have been sent to Ontario have died there.
Until you can show me data to back up your gut feel, your word has no credibility.
Or you are saying it is not news worthy because it was on YT?
Often I see same news in PB, bikeradar, bikerumor, also the story of murder in jamis bikes was published in other places before it was shared in PB.
The only ones who are politicizing news on Kyle Warner are PB and you who decided to suppress this news.
You know how fear and distrust is spread - by censorship, by suppressing news, by bullying the people who just report on facts.
And do you know how those attempts end up at the end: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
The majority of the well known antivaxxers that were censored on social media were shown to have significant financial interests in sowing doubt in vaccines so they can sell "patients" their own special brands of elixirs...just like my inlaws who send pictures of their tongues to a "doctor" in Florida so she can diagnose their illnesses and sell them potions.
"if they were actually reporting on facts, they wouldn't be suppressed and bullied." - Who is the big Censor who decided what is a fact? I would like to hear both sides and come to my own conclusion.
"have significant financial interests" - vaccine manufacturers are also making money, so ...
You don't have the skills or intelligence to know what is correct information and what isn't correct information. I'm willing to bet none of us on this forum do. We have subject matter experts who have spend decades of their lives studying this science. I rely on them to tell me what is correct. If you think you could even comprehend the abstract of a current virology research paper, let alone reproduce the research, you're off your rocker...
Yes, vaccine companies make money, they are not charities. However, they are making money off of billions spent on research. And, the last I heard, each dose of Pfizer vaccine is around $15. Go spend a week in the hospital and let me know how much Pfizer makes off of you. Or even buy some OTC cold medication for a couple of weeks. There is likely more profit in that. The antivaxxers are selling shit that has no scientific basis whatsoever.
Your arguments are weak.
Is there a transparent process who decides what can news portals publish and not?
Everybody has right to "informed consent" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent), not only those with skills and intelligence.
You don't find it worrying that the small (and in grand scheme of things - insignificant) web site like PB, which usually reports on various injuries of more or less known athletes decided to suppress the Kyle story, only because there is a chance that Kyle's injuries might be side effect of the vaccination?
You're really bringing me into a race that I have no horse in when you engage me about Kyle and Pinkbike not covering his story. You have to take it up with them. This is their platform. I have no say in what they cover and what they don't cover. Further to that, Kyle's story is still out there in other sources so how about you put on your big boy pants and go looking for it somewhere else if it bothers you that much.
As for your point on informed consent, we are in new times. The internet has made way too many people think they know what they are talking about regarding everything and has also given way too many people the platform to dispense medical advice. Any doctor who values their medical license wouldn't dream of dispensing most of the advice you see on facebook etc. If the keyboard warriors dispensed it in person, they could likely be charged with practicing without a medical license. Why do you think that following random advice on the internet is informed? I would say that a majority of time it can be referred to as misinformed.
Question: Who watched their Dr/Nurse aspirate the injection to test if they hit a vein? It's beyond important, it's literally a requirement that's barely be payed attention to.
VAERS is shit. No one is filtering it as you say. People can claim they had any sorts of side effects that they want without ever seeing a doctor for verification.
A vaccine that doesn't work? Locally, approx. 80% of the eligible population is vaccinated. The hospitalizations from covid are approx. 75% unvaccinated. That means less that 20% of the population is making up 75% of the hospitalizations.
I just got finished explaining that your anecdotes mean nothing and correlation does not equal causation. You have not provided any valid data to back up your claims. Vitamin D and Zinc? Cite studies please!
Yes, there are things to discuss, but you are not one to provide informed input on it. That's how science works. A researcher does research and publishes it after peer review. That allows ANYONE else in the world to attempt to replicate the research and support or debunk it. Until you have done any of this research, you're just an angry peon with no business in that discussion.