This was a wild ride with the helicopter flying in front of me up top. Had only ridden that section 1 time during practice a few days before and it was hard to remember exactly where it went, especially with the tape all over the shop.—Jack Moir
The helicopter shots sure did look cool, but seeing the tape all over the place in the POV would have me real annoyed as a rider, never mind the distractions it can cause.
I know nothing about film gear, but it sure seems like they could have gotten just as good of footage by flying 5 times higher and using a different lens on the camera. Like, what was the point of being that low?
@mastadon: I'm sure it was truly the clueless first day on the job pilot, who I'm SURE had a total huge investment in the random people riding bicycles down a hill, looking to sabotage the event.
The looney conspiracy theories here make Roswell look sane sometimes.
@ecbp: NORMALLY the chopper can provide live broadcast coverage which a drone cannot. Or could not until recently. In this case I have no idea since to my knowledge it wasn't a live broadcast anywhere.
@cholla: Pretty sure everyone is aware of drones. But they have their drawbacks. Namely poorer picture and no live broadcast. I agree the heli positioning here was not good and they need to be more aware but drones can only do so much. Its not like they are running military grade predator drones for a bike race. There is a reason they run heli's at the tour de france and others for every stage because they get better footage, live streams and are much more consistent.
@wilsonians: so wheres the live broadcast? I always understood that there wasnt much media coverage of EWS until after the racing when all the utube edits start rolling out. I gotta agree with what others have said re the drones. Using a full Helo in this age is such a ridiculous waste of money and resources. Couple of professional drone pilots with a full day's load of battery packs and memory and you'd have all the amazing footage you'd want (minus the aforementioned live footy, which I have yet to see anyhow).
@Trudeez: 100% agree. Not really sure what the hell the choppers were doing if not for live broadcast...which there was none of. Unless its purely for better footage which is a pretty hard sell IMO given the resource and clear negative impact to the riders. I can understand the choppers if there is better, more consistent coverage, live stuff etc. but that doesnt seem to be the case here....
That was simply absurd. There's zero reason a heli should have been that close to the ground to cause such immense downwash. Its pretty basic stuff for a heli pilot to be aware of this. Dang, what a memory for Jack though.
@mi-bike: for the sake of keeping the conversation going. having my aviation license i believe they could have had multiple drone pilots operating and flying in a cycle and its still would have cut expenses and costs knowing the price of aviation fuel and a pilot to fly the aircraft. in australia flying a helicopter much smaller than this R22 size costs around $700/hr in fuel. before you pay the pilot. and that helicopter looked much larger im guessing that would be around the $2000/hr flight time mark.i feel 2 or 3 drone teams could have prevented not only the hazard but also reduced cost significantly.
@pickleboi101: Funny you're providing this detail. I was just looking at a quote for a B206L job, coming in at around AU$1650/hr ex fuel. Drone operations would have been cheaper no doubt, but these mountain areas in the European alps have many choppers and experienced pilots sitting around. Drone event/video production is still an emerging market and drones also don't do too well if it gets windy. So, they may simply have chosen what they considered more reliable.
Whats the point to waste thousands on helicopter GAS when a good electric drone pilot wood make the best footage it's so funny how so many people and company's still havnt adapted to electric tech ...and was obvious he was frustrated at the end cause he mentioned the heli
yeah, so retro Spent many hours shooting with both (heli's and drones) and it honestly can't think of many reasons to use a full blown helicopter for this. Need to see the footage though
@foxinsocks: high risk factor in any heli what about the human carnage factor? Pretty hard to die in a drone crash you might look like swiss cheese but ridable shape. As soon as I saw the friggin nightmare hovering over the track my stomach dropped
That helicopter is the most ridiculous thing… so not necessary… i think for the cost you could afford a couple extra cameras on the ground if that was the goal.
Ed Masters went down when the heli caught him by surprise coming over the ridge so low. He said a bit of warning that they were using a chopper would have been nice. Wyn TV has that interview.
Hopefully Chris Ball and Co see this footy and file the Heli and loose tape under "dumb shit not to do next time" I've seen tape end a rider's run more than a few times.
France is wild eh? People driving through a DH track while riders are on course, and now a helicopter interfering with people's race at a world level. Wil stuff no doubt
The looney conspiracy theories here make Roswell look sane sometimes.
Not to mention for the wind resistance/time penalty added by that helli pilot for the riders
Why not use the dreaded drone FFS?
Spent many hours shooting with both (heli's and drones) and it honestly can't think of many reasons to use a full blown helicopter for this. Need to see the footage though
Or you’re on crime stoppers
We’ll handles Jack.
I've seen tape end a rider's run more than a few times.