Video: Knolly Announces 2020 Warden

Apr 24, 2020
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PRESS RELEASE: Knolly Bikes

The next generation of the Wardens have arrived and we’re stoked to get them on the trails. Here’s a hit list of what’s new with the 27.5 Warden and why we hope it will be your next ride.

The Next Gen of Innovation
Our new Warden features updated suspension kinematics, geometry, tubes and boasts new custom parts. It’s a 27.5 model that will become your all mountain enduro machine.

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Patented Fourby4 Suspension - total confidence
We fine-tuned the Warden’s Fourby4 technology so that you could pedal even better, while offering increased rear traction. Plus, we added more suspension for an even bigger ride.

157Trail- trail precision
Building off the success of the Fugitive, we incorporated 157 hubs with 73mm BB shells on the new Warden. This wide rear end allows for DH stiffness for precise tracking while keeping a narrow Q-factor common with 73mm BB shells. Clever design keeps rider heel clearance only 1mm wider than our 142mm bikes and narrower than many boost 148mm options. Tire width and rim choices are endless, with clearance to run 2.8 tires on a super wide rim.

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Progressive Geo
Our patented offset seat-tube design was a first in the industry in 2004 and continues to be a hallmark of our brand. The design can accommodate a 180mm dropper post on a size small frame and a 210mm dropper on medium through XL frames.

A 77 degree seat tube angle optimizes pedaling efficiency and climbing position to attack any hill with ease, while the slack 64.5 degree head tube provides stability when descending. Knolly strikes a balance between climbing performance, fit, and ride handling with little to no sacrifice in any of them.

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Increasing the reach to 500mm on a large while keeping the chainstays at a manageable 432mm provides a long wheelbase with a tight back end for a balanced, stable and agile ride. Additionally, our shorter head tube lengths allow riders more set up options when building their new dream bike. With a low stack height, the Warden is at home carving corners and climbing technical trails. Or add a few extra spacers under the stem if you prefer charging through steep chutes.

The Warden can be set up in neutral or slack. Slack mode doesn't just provide a slacker head angle, it also lowers the bottom bracket, increases the chainstay length, and creates a more progressive leverage curve. Changing your geometry is as simple as removing the lower shock bolt, sliding it forward or back, and re-installing it. Trail side adjustments made easy.

Knolly Materials/Parts- Uncompromised performance
The Warden features 6066 hydroformed tubing to provide a greater strength to weight resistance over other commonly used alloys such as 6061. We also continue to include our CNC machined 6Al-4V titanium fasteners, threaded bottom bracket, easy to set up internal cable routing, and next generation Igus pivot bushing technology to increase service intervals. Our engineering first mentality provides total reliability and ultimate precision.

In addition, it comes ready for any chain guide, bash guard, or even front derailleur setup with removeable e-type and ISCG-05 mounts. The removable downtube protector allows for easily routed internal cables and provides a hidden mounting bracket inside the downtube for a Di2 drivetrain or spare derailleur hanger. Every size now comes with the ability to fit a full size water bottle with your favourite piggyback shock. The Warden is purpose built and spec’d with practical features so that you can maximize your every adventure.

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The Warden- two great options
The Warden replaces one of the most legendary bikes in our lineup with more travel, an improved pedaling platform, and streamlined aesthetics which ultimately delivers more fun on the trails. This version features a 160mm fork and 160mm shock, and begs you to get in a quick 5000 foot alpine climb before descending back down the hardest double black you can find.

The Warden LT is designed for all those riders who took our first gen Warden to the very edge of its ability and are questing for more. With a super-enduro type stance, the Warden LT is decked out with a 170mm fork and 168mm shock.

It took a while to get here but with the addition of the new Warden to our already successful Fugitive models, Knolly has sealed its position as the brand delivering the most fun and capable bikes to rowdy riders all over the globe.

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Pricing and Give Back Program
We recognize that things are changing right now and we want to do our part. With each new Warden frame or full bike that we sell online this spring, we’ll give $100 to the Vancouver Coastal Health hospital foundations.

The 2020 Warden ranges in price from $2270 to $2673 USD, complete bikes with the Dawn Patrol kit ranging from $4720 to $5350 US. It’s available NOW at your Knolly Bikes Dealer and online: www.knollybikes.com


229 Comments

  • 94 4
 Looks like a uh... Stinky?

Seriously though, this bike looks sick. I've got a few buddies who were waiting on the 2020 model to buy one. Hope it sells well!
  • 62 69
flag fullendurbro (Apr 24, 2020 at 8:06) (Below Threshold)
 It really does look like a stinky, and that's not a compliment.
  • 5 115
flag getsomesy (Apr 24, 2020 at 8:25) (Below Threshold)
 Stfu You obviously nave no idea what your talking about. This has another link in seatstay area and a horst type pivot on the chainstay.
  • 12 4
 @fullendurbro: I quite like the older styling.
  • 72 1
 @getsomesy: Hey man it's not my fault the joke went a mile above your head
  • 11 1
 @fullendurbro: I was just going to say, it does look like a stinky, and I mean that as a compliment!
  • 3 58
flag getsomesy (Apr 24, 2020 at 9:01) (Below Threshold)
 @Ajorda: what joke? Werent u being serious?
  • 8 0
 Still have my 05’ deeluxe - thinking I might convert it into a ski bike
  • 34 0
 Haha. Does anybody remember @konaworld Joyride? That bike was so sick.
  • 4 1
 @artistformlyknowasdan: that would be the most wild skibike ever. I sold my TNGNT last year and am considering doing something like that with an SX trail I found on FB marketplace
  • 3 1
 @Ajorda: Specialized SX Trail? Dude, that thing belongs in a museum. Dont' turn it into a ski bike!
  • 3 0
 @fullendurbro: It's newer than the '05 Deeluxe mentioned above haha
  • 3 8
flag sunringlerider (Apr 24, 2020 at 11:47) (Below Threshold)
 @Ajorda:

Ohhhhh you mean a stinky looks like a session? So you’re saying a Warden looks like a Stinky which in turn looks like a Session so basically you’re saying it looks like a Session?
What you did there. . . I see it.
  • 6 1
 @getsomesy: Are you 13? lots of shit talking/keyboard courage going on there.
  • 5 0
 Where’s the huck test??!! @KNOLLYBIKES:
  • 4 0
 A Warden with dual crown fork would be kinda cool, though I guess there's the Delerium for that.
  • 4 0
 @dr-fishy-noooo: the new delirium is the exact same frame as the warden. Warden + 180mm fork + 65mm stroke shock + different paint = delirium
  • 58 17
 I love everything about Knolly except the way they look.
  • 43 30
 * And SuperBoost.
  • 37 5
 @NateMob: I hate Supa Boost as much as the next guy, but at least they went straight from 142 to 157
  • 9 5
 And cracking 6mm bolts Wink
  • 18 13
 @cole-inman: Why hate superboost? It's the best hub standard available, and they didn't need to introduce new parts to do it.

Boost is the dumbest thing around. Best to just tear that bandaid off and get rid of it.
  • 24 1
 @lkubica: Now using 10mm trunion upper bolts and 8mm lower shock bolts.
  • 14 1
 @KNOLLYBIKES: I know, a great bike for sure. Uninterrupted ST deserves more credit than it gets. You should also post some sus curves, lots of geeks here on PB. And I know that your sus is one of the best on the market.
  • 3 7
flag Ajorda (Apr 24, 2020 at 11:52) (Below Threshold)
 @kittenjuice: This sounds exactly like what people were saying when we moved from 142 to boost. Money money money money money
  • 20 6
 @Ajorda: Only boost was stupid from its inception, and 157 is brilliant. The only reason 157 isn't on every mtb is because boost is in the way. Thanks Trek.
  • 3 1
 Rode my first Knolly in 2007. Tried many many bikes since then and keep coming back. Been a pleasure to see the brand grow and mature and get to where they are now.

The 2020 Warden I have been riding for the last year is absolutely the ultimate bike I have ever ridden.

With the confidence it inspires I have plunged into some new trails (Squamish / whistler / Pemberton) blind that I will likely think very seriously about before ever riding again. Damn awesome.
  • 39 1
 I hope the RAW/Brushed AL trend never goes away
  • 2 0
 That's the one I ordered. Can't freaking wait!
  • 2 0
 @knuckleheadmtb: Same for me! Well I wanted the raw at first but then went with the raw special edition Delirium but with Warden shock. It will arrive soon!!! Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @Timo82: ohhh, that’s a great idea! Wish I had thought of that! But I went with black with the chrome decals and have a very sick black w/chrome decals motif going on... which will also be very sick.

Were you able to get the “Warden” sticker out on the top tube? Or will it still say Delirium?
  • 2 0
 @islandforlife: Yeah I wanted a raw frame so much but thought about the black/chrome decals and some silver/chrome components!! But I just bought my blue Hope E4 brakes last year so I want to keep them and will be better looking with the raw finish! I'll add some blue things and silver hubs/nipples. Yours will be sick too!! Smile

Mmmm didn't ask them and don't think they would do it? lol The new warden is already a big bike for me so I'll look pretty dumb on a Delirium for a lot of bikers but then they'll think I am a f*cking beast climbing like this with a Delirium!! hahaha
  • 40 16
 Stop calling short chainstays that don't get bigger as the front end increases "balanced." It is the opposite. Also the red link is a weird asthetic choice.
  • 5 9
flag Noeserd (Apr 24, 2020 at 8:59) (Below Threshold)
 Not balanced at all
  • 10 8
 The red link is for the brand followers. Having had a Chilcotin I would never buy Knolly again if: a.) shock mounting bolt would remain 6mm and b.) this red link part would not be redesigned to be stiffer.
So this is a message: "we know we have f*ed up previous designs, but look, now it is perfectly ok!".
If you think I am just a stupid troll - I actually owned a Chilco, sold it and yesterday the new owner have broken the very link. Bending a few of those 6mm bolts before. I mean, I am still a stupid troll, but actually have something true to say about Knolly Wink
But otherwise Chilco was a fantastic bike, so this Warden is probably awesome.
  • 6 2
 @lkubica: totally redesigned... 157 spacing allowed for burly crazy stiff and strong links and pivots. Made a huge difference.
  • 50 2
 Balanced was the word we used because it was used to describe our bike by Bike mag during their annual bike shoot out. There is A LOT more to making a bike balanced than a single measurement. I see you are in Squamish, we'd love to bring you a demo bike when Covid19 restrictions are over so you can experiance our balanced ride.
  • 10 1
 i for one like the red link - i think it looks cool.
  • 8 1
 @KNOLLYBIKES: I would be stoked to demo one
  • 1 1
 @KNOLLYBIKES: send us one also...we'd love to review one
  • 4 0
 I love Squamish. Trails. Beer. Pizza. Lakes.
  • 3 0
 @mutton: that pretty much all of bc lol
  • 1 0
 I didn't like the orange/red link also but you can buy a black one so not such a big deal... Wink
  • 20 1
 BRING BACK THE PODIUM AND CHILCOTIN
  • 37 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: So all this time I just needed to use caps lock??
  • 52 1
 @HaggeredShins: Pretty much. We don't like it when people yell at us.
  • 14 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: lol You guys rule, keep the good bikes rolling Beer
  • 22 2
 YESSS, 27.5 INCH WHEELS
  • 43 34
 73mm BB? Great!
157mm hubs? Would never even consider it, just stupid.

Beef up the frame and pivots instead of making the rear end wider and giving you less clearance. If a Specialized Demo can win a DH World Championship on a135mm hub a Knolly trail bike will be just fine with 148.
  • 46 6
 The specialized dh bike had a short cassette body for dh use, and wider flanges for better wheel durability and lateral stiffness. Ss huba comonly have ftc of 35 on both sides for flange width of 70mm - strong wheel.

trail bikes needs a full cassette. 148 limits flange width to about 63mm or so with ftc 39 24 imbalanced and less than ideal but better than 142 spacing.

150/157 conventional hubs with full cassette body often enoough have 70mm flange width like ftc 39/31, which is laterally stiffer more balanced tension more durable.

Numerous bikes over years have had 150/157 hub with 73bb it works great. Chainline is good, you can change chainline at ring or bb to tend towards inside or middle depending where u pedal most (most ppl pedal bottom few gears most so inboard chainline makes most sense)

You seem to be one of those people who talks out their ass. Good luck.
  • 15 2
 157 spacing does allow you build beefy pivots and links, which is what they did. Most people don’t understand that’s why companies go this route. Sure it allows for a stronger wheel but the real benefit it the insanely stiff rear end. Enduro bikes are basically DH bikes these days so why shouldn’t they benefit from the same build technology. I rode and raced a 157 rear end last year and won’t go back.
  • 24 2
 @DoubleCrownAddict you missed the part where the bike industry moved from 142mm to a useless 148mm standard to help them sell PLUS sized tire bikes (which didn't take off the way the planned). Knolly , Pivot , Devinci etc called bullshit and moved to a wide hub spacing which actually delivered on what the industry claimed boost 148mm would accomplish. I believe that the 157 trail spacing will outlive boost 148. But even if it doesn't , boost 148 is still dumb.
  • 10 13
 @getsomesy: No, I simply don't like change for the sake of marketing, which is all that you regurgitated. Hitting your derailleur on rocks or other obstacles isn't great, and people who tell you they can tell a difference are just saying that justifying their purchase or is Knolly fan. They are a good company but this is completely unnecessary.

Anybody who thinks a trail bike needs a 157mm hub is the person talking out of their sales marketing ass and blowing smoke up everybody else's.
  • 21 5
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Anybody who doesn’t ride it is talking out their ass. Knolly isn’t a company that relies on bullshit marketing. They are engineering first. Function over form. Which is why they skipped 148 which wasn’t an improvement over 142. 157 however is a huge improvement. It’s why DH bikes are built with it. If you can’t or don’t see the benefit, then maybe you aren’t riding hard enough. For those that do and have ridden it, the difference is obvious.
  • 7 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: here's my marketing pitch... maybe the bike isn't the problem if you can't avoid hitting "obstacles" with your derailleur
  • 15 4
 Knolly builds bikes to last years and years. 157 is a hub width that has been around for a long time. Knolly never built a 148, they went from 142 to 157. 148 is already slowly going away on trail bikes amongst the smaller manufacturers. When 148 came out, a lot of people asked why not 157?
  • 4 2
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Have you ridden one?
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flag DoubleCrownAddict (Apr 24, 2020 at 10:16) (Below Threshold)
 @DGWW: Then they should go back to 142, beef up the stays and pivots, and market the reasons why. I already hit my heels too much with 148, makes no sense to go wider if it it negatively affects your ability to maneuver on the bike and increases the chances of damaging your rear derailleur.

148 is a good width for e bikes since you need a little more width for the motor. Most e bike manufacturers are using 148 as their standard so expect it to become the standard as e bikes continue to take over snail bikes in sales.
  • 12 2
 @DoubleCrownAddict: Where your heels are, their design is only 1mm wider on each side than their 142 design, and narrower than a lot of others 148 designs. So, not an issue.

You can see it here if you scroll down - www.knollybikes.com/engineering
  • 12 6
 It’s astonishing Knolly or another well respected bike company hasn’t hired you, a failed musician, to their engineering department.
  • 3 5
 @islandforlife: Wider hubs also mean wider bottom bracket, which means more space for tire clearance with short stays. You can't fit 2.6in 27.5 tires on a 160mm bike with 432mm chainstays using a non-boost BB. I think this is a big factor that is not often discussed.
  • 6 0
 @mtb-sf: Holy crap the confidently shared misinformation here is just painful. Boost/157 affects chainline, not BB width.
  • 11 1
 @mtb-sf: This. 157Trail means you can choose if you want to run a 27.5 x 2.8 tire on the bike. We don't expect many people will but why prevent people from doing this if we can make a bike that can handle any size you want.

157Trail on a 29'er also means you could run a 2.6 or meatier tire with manageable chain stay length.
  • 10 1
 @islandforlife:Knolly isn’t a company that relies on bullshit marketing. They are engineering first.

Engineering first. And whiskey, a close second.
  • 2 1
 @geephlow: Haha, that too!
  • 8 1
 A hub I can use on both my trail bike and DH rig... now that makes sense. 148 is joke. Major hassle for next to no gain. My Knolly performs better than any other bike I've ever owned and if I didn't like what I ride now so much I'd buy the Warden in a second. And by the way, those videos of buffed out kid trails don't do what a Knolly can handle justice - well, maybe the last video. Oh yeah, nothing looks better than a raw Knolly.
  • 5 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: 157 hubs prolly been around longer than you been Mountain biking?
  • 2 10
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Apr 25, 2020 at 7:15) (Below Threshold)
 @mutton: They actually haven't but that's an irrelevant point anyways.

I also don't care of its only 1 mm wider, I don't want it any wider and I don't want to increase the chances of hitting the rear derailleur on something.

A narrow rear hub equals a faster bike. You have more room to maneuver your feet around, especially if you are using flat pedals. Your feet won't be hitting the stays as much, which only slows down your pedaling efforts. Also slightly more aerodynamic, which anybody who has ever lost a downhill race by less than a second might appreciate.

I haven't tried a Knolly and have no intention of trying one since they don't make e bikes. But if I was a pigeon toed snail bike rider I might give them a look, I do appreciate their support for trail builders.
  • 7 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict:

Again, it’s only 1mm wider than their 142 design,

I rode and raced and full 8 race enduro season on a Fugivtive LT last season with the same 157 rear end. Never hit my heels or legs on anything, never felt limited in my body movements.

I was much faster on this bike simply because the rear end is so still it tracked so much better through the really rough chunk it gave me the confidence to haul ass through everything.

I sold that bike in the fall and began demoing bike to figure what I wanted to be on next... what would I be the fastest on. Tried a SC Hightower, Norco Range, Rocky Instinct BC Edition, and had a SC Megatower for 3 days. All bikes were great, especially the Megatower but none could match the stiffness and confidence inspiring ride of the 157 rear end. Even on the Megatower I feel the rear end moving in comparison to the Knolly... this caused the bike the move around more under me through really high speed chunk forcing me to slow down to stay in control. Simply it was easier to ride faster on the Knolly.

After those demos, my mind was made up, I needed to be on a 157 rear end again. I’ll be this Warden.

For me, after actually testing multiple bikes on my home trails that I know well, and putting them all including a Knolly to test, the Knolly cane out on top.

It also wasn’t just the stiff 157 rear end, the 4x4 suspension system was on another level compared to the other bikes I tested. Where most suspension systems have to compromise some aspect I order to work well in another, the Knolly system seems to do it all well. The Bik mag review puts in words really well and I encourage you to read that review and watch the review video as it captures much of what I felt in comparison to other bikes.

Anyway, that’s my two cents, take care and what ever you ride, enjoy it!!
  • 10 1
 Hahaha lookit @DoubleCrownAddict over here. Whingeing about his hypothetical pedaling efforts.... Only rides bikes with motors.
  • 2 9
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Apr 25, 2020 at 10:01) (Below Threshold)
 @kittenjuice: You obviously don't know the definition of hypothetical, do you know the definition of snail?

(in metaphorical use) any person or thing that moves exceedingly slowly.
"a tedious and complicated process enough to exasperate a snail"

Enjoy pedaling your snail bike and I will enjoy pedaling faster on my e bike. Have a nice slooow ride up, peace.
  • 10 1
 @kittenjuice: the real gem is his concern about the aerodynamic drag of the wider hub.
  • 8 1
 Hahahaha @DoubleCrownAddict rides the slowest motorized bikes you can buy and brags about how fast he is.
  • 8 2
 @thegoodflow: He decided he doesn't like 157 based on absolutely nothing, and he's gonna use any baseless speculation to support that opinion. Also rides the mtb version of the mobility scooter. America in a nutshell.
  • 4 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: I've got a website for you, full of riders who are really fast going uphill : www.vitalmx.com
  • 7 3
 @DoubleCrownAddict: ebike; for those cyclist who STILL don’t have the balls to ride a dirt bike.
  • 4 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict: its not marketing yah doinker. Its basic engineering principals.

It may not be neccisary for a feckless wimp or lightwieght gentle rider, but for someone going big or hard wheels with little spoke bracing most cerainly can be a weak link in the structural integry of the bike.

I have broken lots of derraileurs, and when im not careful do hit them charging tight rough lines. But were only talking about moving the dereailleur outboard 7.5mm from 135/142 hubs to 150mm and only 4.5mm further out than 148mm to 150/157mm. my pedal peotrudes much more than my derreiluer and it is uncommon to me to turn so tightly to trail my derrailuer into something my fork bottom pedal or crank wouldnt have hit anyway. On the other hand there is a substabcial and constantly noticable increase in wheel stiffness by increasing the drive side flange width 14%

Even if you are hitting things with your dereailuer i think it is more the fault of an antique vunerable gear shifting system rather than that of the performance and durability improving increased hub width.
  • 3 8
flag getsomesy (Apr 25, 2020 at 15:33) (Below Threshold)
 @KNOLLYBIKES: its not 157trail its 157. You didnt invent it and it is so lame of to try to capture the name of a common prexisting hub dimention with your own branding. Very specialized of you.
  • 4 1
 @DoubleCrownAddict:
I ride with my feet straighg for-aft. I am not a knolly fan but i have ridden them and other 150/157 spaced bikes without clipping my feet and i wear size 46 shoes. It sounds like you are duck toed!
  • 2 7
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Apr 25, 2020 at 15:46) (Below Threshold)
 @Off-my-lawn-hippie: Dirt bike trails suck, it's just not as much fun. Also barely anywhere to ride them in many areas and then all the licensing and registration if you wanted a dual sport. They are more fun to go uphill than down, wtf? I have no desire to own one since I heard Steve Smith died on one, don't even want to know what happened. R.i.p. chainsaw

Are you participating in the liberate protests? Was that you calling the nurses who were counter protesting abortion doctors?

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-protests-lockdown-operation-gridlock-nurses-masks-arizona-a9483466.html
  • 8 2
 @getsomesy: Knolly (and pivot) looked at the standards that already existed, and used 2 already existing standards to create something better than what was previously available. It's the best kind of progress, and they absolutely deserve credit for ignoring the wave of Trek's 148 stupidity to push this. This is the sort of iterative innovation that's good for us riders. Chill.
  • 3 4
 @scottzg: lol you dont know what your talking about knolly did not create 157.
  • 4 1
 @getsomesy: i didn't say they did. But it doesn't matter. They're one of the few brands that ignored 148 when it was stupid and fashionable, and i admire them fore that.
  • 2 4
 @scottzg: "Knolly (and pivot) looked at the standards that already existed, and used 2 already existing standards to create something better than what was previously available."
  • 1 1
 @DGWW: the only thing that currently sucks about 157mm is the limited hubs/wheelset generally available in the marketplace. I own a Devinci Troy 29er, but not much out there for decent-priced wheelsets, yet.
  • 2 1
 @elshadow: is building a wheel set out of the budget ? I’d put money into a good hub and have it for years, I do hope more brands get behind it, and ensure its future.
  • 5 1
 @elshadow: pretty much every relevant aftermarket mtb hub is offered in 157 format.
  • 3 3
 @getsomesy: More durable or stiffer compared to what standard or need? I can see the reasoning behind 157 for 29er; for 27.5, not really. Also, them trying to make a point about wheel stiffness then spec'ing 28 spoke wheels undercuts their whole argument.
  • 2 2
 @kittenjuice: I've looked into it, and the wider chainline allows the tire to be closer to the bb. BUT, and this is a big but, why do you want short chainstays on a 160mm bike? I want the stability from stays that are not that short. So I just buy other bikes.
  • 4 1
 @JohanG: chainstay length is complicated. If you're designing the frame you can tweak the front triangle to be stable with any chainstay length. Also chainstay length can vary subjectively depending on axle path and how the suspension is tuned. And how you set up your cockpit will influence how the rear end feels.

A really savvy designer can create the ~same riding experience without changing chainstay length. Or at least scaling up/down chainstay length isn't that important compared to other design factors.


I don't care how long you like your rear-center, just realize what you feel is a consequence of the whole bike's set up.

If 157 is better for 29, it's better for 27. 157 uses the available space better. That's the whole story.
  • 4 0
 @JohanG: The 157 allows for people to choose a wider flanged hub to build a stiffer wheel if they want. It's about giving our customers options and the best chance to build the exact wheel they need without limiting options.

Good observation on the spec. We love the Industry Nine wheels and believe that their 28h wheels are fantastic for most people but also recognize that this is not for you if you are 260LBS and riding in the bike park all day. The 32h Spank Oozy 345's have been available on our Fugitive LT builds since releasing the bike but we weren't able to get the new Hex hubs from Spank in time to offer these wheels on the first shipment of Wardens. We are excited to offer them mid-summer when we get them in stock.

We can give kittenjuice some credit here for answering your question about why and how stability happens.
  • 8 1
 I have owned a few carbon bikes, but there are a few new Al frames that are calling to me, this bike being the loudest! I can’t wait to see one in person.
  • 2 1
 I live in seattle. Come visit when things are normal.
  • 7 0
 Hell yeah Knolly! Dreamy trail bike would their Fugitive LT with that sick plain Jane look paintscheme
  • 5 0
 Currently on the Carbon Warden and like it, but goddamn the alloy was fun. Definitely going to sell it to snag a new alloy frame. Knolly for life after riding everything else.
  • 4 0
 Went from a carbon Warden to an early release of the 2020 Warden. No need to ride carbon again. This was instantly so superior. DH wheels. Cush core. Etc. Absolutely awesome.
  • 1 0
 @mutton: Do you find your’s bobs a lot while pedalling? I’m a big dude and find that it bobs like a bitch, but the tradeoff is still worth it, it’s that good. Recently started running a dhx2 and have found that the bobbing has gotten worse.
  • 1 0
 @Chrisgus: climb switch ? Sit and spin ? My delirium blew me away with its climbing ability on the north shore / sea to sky this past season.
  • 1 0
 @Chrisgus: oval chainring helps. One of my buddies has a trek hardtail 29er and for some reason my Warden climbs better than it.
  • 2 0
 @Chrisgus: hey dude
Not really. I alternate between the climb switch on / off. I use it only on super smooth roads but honestly if the road or trail is remotely loose / rough I take the climb switch off and allow try suspension to get me through.

I have worked on my pedaling technique - using my core and pedaling in circles and am continually amazed at what I have cleaned on this bike. Take the time to dial the suspensions settings in and it pedals super well. It's been my only bike for 12+ months and I do big 3-4k days from home.

Saying that it's not an xc bike. I have also been riding a steel hard tail recently and appreciate the dramatic differences between each bike.

I would have zero doubt choosing the Warden V2 as my only bike on a road trip. I ride the steepest double black / red trails I can find and I pedal / push to get there.
  • 7 0
 Absolutely love my Fugitive LT w/ Diamond/Jade-X combo Smile
  • 7 0
 Bring back the Podium. Once you go Knolly you'll always be jolly.
  • 5 1
 the Reverb kills it for me at that price for a complete build. But, Knolly is still one of those "must demo" bikes for me. Would love to try out an Endorphrin. Did the 2020 Endorphrin get the bigger bolts?
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 Endo got bigger bolts in 2019. The remainder from last year are on sale right now. Endo will take a break in 2020 but will return.
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 @KNOLLYBIKES: Thank you for the reply, i am going to check out those 2019's!
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 @jason475: We also have upgrade kits if you have a 27.5 Endo from previous years.
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 No Knolly bikes around here, but got the opportunity to try one a couple of years back in the US and was impressed by it! Composed, pedaling traction, efficient while climbing and silent when going down. Would love to see a 29er with a bit more travel @KNOLLYBIKES !!
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 Knolly has so much street cred they might make 27.5 wheels cool again.
  • 4 0
 I’ve owned 2 wardens and a delirium and I’ve yet to find a bike that feels better pointed down a hill.

Can’t afford one anymore, but would buy one if I could.
  • 5 0
 Now if Evil would just do a similar overhaul with the Insurgent.
  • 5 0
 500mm reach on a large. Woa
  • 8 0
 It scared us going that big as well but it works soooo well.
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 @KNOLLYBIKES: hows that for pulling up/manually/bunny hopping over stuff?
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 @sutter2k: Really manageable when our chain stays aren't longer than a '63 Impala.
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 Felt so natural about 10 seconds into my second ride. 5'9" on a medium. I feel I have more real estate within which I can move. Like...I am not riding on the top of a triangle (smaller area) - but lower down closer to the base (larger and more stable). It's a weird analogy - but I can move around more and have a more subtle influence on the bike.

I cleaned climbs last summer that I have never nailed before - and I can only think it was because the extra reach allowed more leverage but also more subtle transfers of weight / balance. I picture the same effect on the DH

Hell. I don't know. It works.
  • 5 0
 Cant wait for my hot pink delirium. Going to be a fun bike.
  • 2 0
 I think there’s only 10-20 of us!!!
  • 2 0
 10 Pink, 20 Still Creek Murder.

I've got the Still Creek Murder but with a Warden shock! It's nice to know that you'll probably never see the same bike that you have! Big Grin
  • 4 0
 I've always loved the look of Knolly's. Right up there for my top aluminum picks along with Commencal
  • 5 0
 Love my 2018 Warden. May be time for an upgrade!
  • 4 0
 75 seconds between four videos... wish it was just one at 1:15
Sweet looking bike.
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 I have had 2 Wardens and 1 Delirium, Loved all of them...........upgraded to a Fugitive and the thing is insane can’t wait for my new Delirium to show up.
  • 3 0
 Thank you @KNOLLYBIKES! I can't wait to get mine in the mail... err.. I mean shipped to my LBS in Campbell and spruced up for an amazing delivery. Oh boy! Smile
  • 5 1
 Yeah, Noel! Can't wait for mine!
  • 2 0
 Yeah Noel. Put it in a box and send it
  • 3 0
 I can't see how the bike corners. Those trees and rocks keep photobombing the shot.
  • 4 0
 Those are some big numbers Knolly, I like it.
  • 3 0
 You can truly see how plush the suspension is at the 10 seconds mark on the dual slalom video
  • 4 0
 LOVE the olive oil yellow color. Great looking bike!
  • 4 0
 I love my Knolly Fugitive! Dr Kimble. #supportlocal
  • 3 0
 Love to try out that new Warden, my Endorphin is one of the best bikes I've owned! Great company to deal with too.
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 A 2020 bike released in 2020? I find it weird, and at the same time makes me realize that the world is f*cked up Smile .
  • 3 2
 The model years usually go off the tax year, not solar years. It's why you see "2020" models in 2019 and so on. In Canada and the US the tax season does not line up with the solar year. In Australia the tax year starts in July.
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 @KxPop: If that is true, you have just unraveled a huge mystery
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 What’s wrong with 7005 series aluminum?
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 It doesn't allow us to work with it in the same way a 6000 series alloy allows. We can hydroform, control wall thicknesses, and taper tubes into the shapes with 6066 that can't be done with 7000 series.
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 @KNOLLYBIKES: cool, and I love hydroforming Wink , can we play a hypothetical game, let’s say in an alternate universe you could do all that with the 7000 series, would you guys still choose 6000? And in this alternate universe there are no negative affects, just anything you can do with 6000, you can do to 7000, and keep the positive attributes, ps. I love metals
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 Hey DepressinglyAscending:

Super nerd answer here (as concisely as I can make itSmile

A lot of people think that because the number "7xxx" is higher than "6xxx" it must be better. The difference is the primary alloying ingredient in the material. 7xxx alloys have a way less complicated heat treating process than 6xxx alloys including only a very simple artificial aging process. 6xxx alloys require a much more difficult solution quench process before their artificial aging process.

Now, some 7xxx alloys like 7050 and 7075 are incredibly strong and ideal for parts like cranks, stems, bars, linkage bits, high end fork parts, etc... But they are NOT weldable and their formability is somewhat restricted (yes, I know that there are developments in welding 7075 but its formability is still not great meaning very simple round tube shapes due to retaining significantly high strength in its annealed state). There is one alloy: 7005 that IS weldable and it was designed for bike frame tubing not because it's strong / better, but because it was EASIER than welding 6xxx alloys due to the lack of requirement of a solution quench process. It was popular in the late 1999s and early 2000s.

But 7005 has generally fallen out of favour for high end bikes over the past decade. It has stress corrosion cracking issues and modern 6xxx alloys such as 6066 are just better in every way. Not only are they significantly stronger than "aircraft grade" 6061, they are far more tough as well. You can kind of think that "strength = weight" and that "tough = reliability". It's not quite that direct but it's close.

So, for now and most likely the foreseeable future, 6066 is pretty much king for high end alloy frames. And not only is it strong and tough, it has excellent formability, corrosion resistance, machinability, and weldability. We're even seeing it being used in non-welded forged parts now which was previously the domain of 7075.

Hope that helps!
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 @Noelbuckley: sick ???? not nerdy at all
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 @Noelbuckley: the question marks are a smiley face with sunglasses but I’m guessing it didn’t register
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 So I couldn't run my Boost 148mm rear hub on this frame, correct?
  • 1 1
 Depends... lots of hub makers also make changeable end caps that will allow you to run your 148 wheels. You won’t get the benefit of wider hub flanges making a stronger wheel but the 157 spacing benefits go much further that just a strong wheel. Shock load protection, beefy links and pivots make for an intensely stiff and burly rear end that is very noticeable.
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 @islandforlife: you actually do get most of the benefit though if you run the adapters with a boost hub. There's more to be gained from the improved dish and the more balanced spoke tensions, than there is from the wider flanges.
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 @thegoodflow: which is basically what the 150mm hubs used on DH bikes for a decade or so have been. Same flange width as 148, same axle spacing as 157, just dished better.
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 @cueTIP: Yep, I've got a 157 DT 240s DH hub on my fugitive. It's actually a little narrower spacing than the boost hubs, but it has tall symmetrical flanges and builds a dishless wheel so it more than makes up for that. Better bracing angle on the driveside and better tension on the nds, than boost, or superboost for that matter actually.
  • 2 1
 I’ve been looking into it as well - you can get a super booster adapter, and then re-dish the wheel. THe super boost is annoying though
  • 8 0
 @KUBBY We'd rather you run a 157mm hub but there are adapters out there.
  • 1 0
 I like it but the sizing seems a bit weird. I've never seen a bike brand call a 610mm top tube a size small. I wonder what height riders they recommend for these.
  • 4 0
 My first ride on the medium felt weird. I'm 5'9".
I will never go back. So natural and such a bigger cockpit to move around in.

I am researching hard tails right now and looking at even longer reach.
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 @mutton: Reach makes sense, but top-tube length affects pedalling position while seated! That's kind of a non-negotiable geometry number in my books. I have a small-sized Pole Evolink 140 with 450mm of reach, but it has a 580mm top tube. 600mm+ and I start needing to slam the saddle forwards.
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 @KxPop: ja Bru
I am no engineer but love the new geo. Our riding here in the pnw involves a lot of tech climbing. I have been able to clean climbs on this bike that I have never done before. I use my dropper post a lot and out the saddle for most tech moves. The greater reach / top tube seems to allow me to swing / pull the front end around super easy (tight switch backs) or allows bigger margin of error when transferring weight for / aft.

I have built two steep techy climbing trails (whistler xc style) and relish riding them on the v2. I can literally preload my suspension and pedal through the gnarliest sections of roots with subtle hip movement's. Traction is unlike anything I have experienced.

Each person had their preferences based on body type and riding style.
????????

I am a Safrican in the USA. Come visit.
  • 3 0
 This crusty old 26” Freerider says HELL YES! This is my next bike...
  • 20 18
 Unfortunately it still looks like A knolly
  • 27 7
 Knolly's look badass!
  • 14 0
 @thegoodflow: They ride even more badass
  • 4 0
 @DGWW: absolutely! I was only commenting on the looks though as apparently that's the real priority for half of these dweebs
  • 6 0
 Fixed it for you: Fortunately it still looks like A knolly!
  • 36 0
 As long as it doesn't look like a session, we are happy.
  • 4 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: definitely
  • 3 0
 Funnily enough...the reason I have been riding Knolly for 12 yrs is performance.
  • 2 0
 I want a new Podium 29 and Chilcotin 29er please. PLEASE! PLEASE!
  • 1 0
 Anybody else notice the older rider in the vids braking with his middle finger? Might be on to something haha savage
  • 3 4
 500 and 660 top tube in large? Now it is time to downsize ) in general awesome bike, i do not like 157 rear spacing, since it is make no sense to me as customer, since most wheelsets on the market are boost
  • 6 0
 157 was on the market on DH bikes about 5 years before 148. Yes, most wheels are boost but if we made bikes to be the same as everybody else, the new Warden would just be another Session.
  • 2 3
 @KNOLLYBIKES: yes you can buy rear 157 (or custom build) and front 110x15, however majority of the wheel sets are trails specific(boost) or dh specific;

The point is not about how good or bad standard or how long it is on the market, it is about adoption and unification front and rear
  • 6 0
 @nickmalysh: ok, I am so over hearing people whine about the 157 hub. If it's too inconvenient for you, then it's just not the bike for you. Move along and ride something else
  • 1 0
 Meanwhile I am running a slammed 150mm dropper on a large...
  • 1 0
 "What's a quick 5000 ft climb?"
  • 2 0
 It's what we've been dreaming about.
  • 1 0
 Wasn’t the 2020 Warden announced last summer? Are these any different?
  • 1 0
 Really wish I could demo a Fugitive LT.
  • 1 0
 Yes, nothing beats a demo for checking out a bike. What part of the country do you live in and what are the trails like?
  • 5 0
 Just buy the Fugitive. Awesome bike. I prefer mine I the normal position.
  • 2 0
 @MattInNZ: Yes, I ride my Fugitive LT in the normal position as well. Climbs great and rips on the downhills.
  • 5 0
 @DrPete You should drive up to BC when the border opens and we can travel safely again! Email us before you come and we'll set up a demo.
  • 1 0
 @KNOLLYBIKES: I will definitely keep that in mind! Looking at a BC trip when the insanity settles.
  • 3 4
 looks totally like a Reign
  • 3 1
 Rides much better than a Reign.
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