Video: Megavalanche Glacier Carnage

Jul 14, 2015 at 7:27
Jul 14, 2015
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Jamie managed to get 7th even after all those crashes!

Megavalanche Glacier Carnage


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  • + 139
 For the sake of sportsmanship at least go back and see if he needs help after having ran over him. I know its a race but is mountainbiking and not war!
  • + 4
 true words.. he was probably havin a serious injury and the rider doesn't even care.!!!
  • + 6
 Yeah man!!! no fucking kiddin, they should promote the sportsmanship in mtb, not fucking running over people, plus this guy ran over 2, should be pensalised in some way!
  • + 27
 I've been in a similar situation, no run over but saw a guy crash right before me in an enduro stage. I still feel ashamed but I couldn't stop, I just yelled "sending someone over!" and kept pushing. Fortunately the guy got up and kept racing with just a couple bruises, because that someone to send wasn't to be found for at least another 3-4 minues of descent.
When you're racing everything changes, your body goes into survival mode and nothing can stop you until you're safe at the arrival. It's irrational and scary what you can become, and I don't think it's really that different from war at least physiologically.
  • + 2
 that guy gor smacked hard by that flying bike before being ran over...
  • + 23
 MEGA. AVALANCHE. IT'S IN THE NAME.
  • + 11
 and btw the guy in green got ran over twice in 5 seconds.
  • + 40
 It's a race with lots of carnage. You expect that you could get hurt and thats for you and the officials to deal with. I don't think it was his responsibility to become a nurse. If the rider was hurt should he stop and wait with him until help arrives and let the race pass by while further clogging the trail so that other riders can smack both of them?? I say keep racing!
  • + 63
 I'm the rider who gets run over at 1min40 , I fortunately nothing broken , just a few sprains, but I admit that Jamie's gesture is not very sporting ...
  • + 21
 Have you ridden it? If not you have no idea how fast & steep that top section is, it's the longest black ski run in Europe, if you fall off, you slide for hundreds of meters before you stop.

Unfortunately hitting, and being hit by other riders is inevitable in this race, that's what happens when you have 350 racers in the main event, all trying thier hardest.

The start is wild, proper mental scary - but it's part of the fun. I've been taken out by other riders in this race before, it's not thier fault on the snow, most people are passengers on (or off) thier bike.
  • - 3
 Glad to hear your ok, looked brutal very lucky and yes very c**tish of the other dude for not even shouting " you okay bro?"
  • + 14
 When you full on run some one over you could at least ask if they are OK and pretend you are human
  • + 2
 eehh, I reckon I could've held it. Razz
  • - 10
flag owl-X (Jul 14, 2015 at 13:00) (Below Threshold)
 KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL THE GOAL OF AN AVALANCHE IT IS TO DESTROY
  • + 11
 After watching the video again, you might be right, in that case (the guy obviously is in pain), it would have been the right move. But Jamie might have been so focused on getting his handlebar straight and onto the bike that he didn t even notice.

Also, there a bunch of paramedics ready and they'll check the glacier for anyone who's not able to continue the race. It's not like the guy is alone or there is much Jamie could have done.

If it was me (who is not racing for Top10), it would be nice to check the guy and if he can't continue, get him and his bike to the side of the track safely, because it's damn dangerous with another 300 riders approaching within the next minutes, some with >80km/h as you can see in the video.
  • - 13
flag owl-X (Jul 14, 2015 at 14:00) (Below Threshold)
 THE NAME IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO SMASH TWO A'S TOGETHER INTO ONE. SAVE YOUR SPORTING GESTURES FOR GOLF OR WHATEVER. MEGA.
  • + 8
 In my opinion...If you ran over someone and potentially have done harm to that person, you have to check if he is alright! Especially if it happens that you have the time for that because you crash next to him. Every over behavior is imo disgusting. It´s mountainbiking not mma! We don´t hurt people an put it on screen as promotion!!! From my point of view...bad after crash action from the rider and verry bad pr decision from the team.
  • + 7
 What do you expect? They pay paramedics to come pick up people's bodyparts and put them back together; everyone else paid to race so that's what they're gonna do. Save the heroics for later
  • + 12
 Watch the video again. Pay attention to how fast people are passing and nearly hitting other fallen riders, a number of which are at a dead stop. Someone already estimated (read: guessed) speeds to be either 61kph or 61mph. So you recommend that someone voluntarily remain at a dead stop when they are in the lead portion of said spectacle? On that rocky surface, even if it's my riding speed (read: old guy unskilled slow) there would be carnage.

I wish there was video of the trailing mob of hundreds of other bikes...like this: youtu.be/fRJPyd9gyn8?t=44s . You want to hang around for longer than necessary waiting for this ridiculousness to rain down on you?

I mentioned it earlier...you should probably educate yourself on what you're signing up for when you put your X at the bottom of this one. That said, I respect the size of testicle Blackearthprod has to carry around with him, and his right to call out someone rampaging into him as "unsporting". Educated or not on the risk, if that was me I'd be uber-wtf...
  • + 3
 image the guy run over broke his back due that accident, i know he didn't but just imagine how it would feel to see the guy who did that to you just hoppin on his bike and riding away, without even caring what he just did to the person he just drove over...
  • + 2
 yeah, I mean one thing is, if you see a crash, you are not going to stop and help, unless U know it might be fatal, it is up to the organisers and safety staff, but if you ran over someone you should definetly stop. Implant a system where u get penalised by say five minutes if you run over someone, and you will see how people jump off there bikes when they are going to run over a person, not fucking hold onto your bars like hes a dog or something, not saying running over dogs is good, its a figure of speach... but yeah, this should stop, no matter wether the name is mega or maxi or fucking carnage avalanche, this is not the path the sport should take...
  • + 2
 @Blackearthprod : tous heureux que tu aies survécu à la mégavalanche 2015 ; cette édition a été particulièrement en vue avec la caméra embarquée et les crash en cascade.
Smile
  • - 1
 Totally agree. What's worse than one injured person? 2 injured people. If Jamie stopped then he would become a hazard especially being so far to the front of the pack. I was in that race and the video does not show the gradient at all, it's a black ski run early in the morning so pretty much ice, even if he did stop he would have some job trying to scramble his way back up to get to the other rider. Nobody is out to intentionally hurt anybody either but I sure hope the fallen riders are alright.
  • + 1
 stefanfresh, I would suggest that one yearly far-out event is not "the path" the sport is taking. And if the sport at large didn't like it, not so many people would register. Nor would people support Rampage or Crankworx or (insert large/major event or your choice here). And given some of the crash scenarios and the speed/distance travelled to a downed rider combined with not being able to safely avoid said downed rider in that time frame I'm not sure penalizing you for hitting someone else who is less able to keep his bike upright is the thing to do. But that's just one man's opinion; the potential of a time penalty might get riders to back it off a notch, and potentially avoid some of this, so it's an idea at any rate.

lumpfboldbiker121, as shitty as that scenario is, I would be looking to the safety/emergency response component of the race to help me, not other racers. It's a race. If I run over someone on Crank It Up (in which case multiple people are really sucking) I'm definitely stopping to provide aid and get patrol on scene. If people have safety concerns at Megavalanche, either lobby the organizers for better emergency support or race elsewhere. There have been year(s) where superbike racers boycotted Daytona because they didn't like the track set up where safety run-off was wall on a 200mph banked corner. Problem solved.

arcyeti, I'm sorry my long-lost Canadian grade 12 french eludes me. Sounds like props to riders in Megavalanche. I agree! TC-35, high five for registering for the chaos. Admittedly, kinda have bike-bro crush on Blackearthprod for getting in there, getting tagged, and staying alive.
  • + 3
 First aid course training told me the first thing you do if you see someone down for the count is check that you can't come to a similar injury. If he'd stayed, he puts himself at risk. You can't help anyone if you get smacked out by an out of control rider. If the man down is seriously injured, you can't drag him off the glacier either incase of causing furhter injury. If you can't help someone who is down, the best thing you can do is ride respectfully to reduce the risk of putting someone in that situation. The course then needs to be designed in such a way as to reduce insane crashes. Megavalanche and the few others like it are the exception to this rule really and you've got to ride aware that if/when a big accident happens you are gonna be isolted and in danger for a short period.
  • - 3
 The people got run over should have checked their speed and not fallen to get run over. The first guy that got run over deserved it for going too fast and losing control. The guy ruined a person's race run for falling right in front of him, what a dick.
  • + 1
 @Blackearthprod : glad to hear you've survived at the meteor-bike and at this mégavalanche 2015.
  • + 1
 @Blackearthprod: mate happy to hear you're ok. Have ribs of steel and vanadium balls!
  • + 4
 @iammarkstewart .What I meant by the path the sport is taking, or rather would take, is that by showing this kind of footage, especialy from a pro, on a media page like pinkbike, and people not questioning at least wether it is "human" or not to assist other riders during a race, furthermore when u have been the one who injured him, it will eventually become common practice not to assist injured riders, even at amateur level... people would think f*ck him, im a better rider, its his fault he fell... (im exagerating of course) but dont you think that makes a little bit of sense?? I just meant to say it is not a good example of the path the sport should take if you prefer, a big part of extreme sports I feel is always to try and keep as safe as posible and helping each other is crutcial for that.
Now, I can see your point when u say you cant penalise a rider for running over "a less abled one", but, lets not forget it was a pro rider who did it. Dont you think they should stay in control at all times, not only in order to not fall, but also be able to avoid fallen riders... Maybe a time penalisation for the rider who falls down for being out of control should also be considered... I´d have to think it through more to try and come up with a better more fair sistem, but ultimately it is a riders responsibilitty to keep themselves and others safe at all times, and like in bikepark rules, you should have to stay in control to avoid that kind of situations, and assist. Its common sense really, if you dont want to have to stop and help, or you dont want to get hurt, dont be involved in an accident!!! Idealy, implant some kind of system which will have most riders riding relattively safe.
And although it is not the same, take Cedric Gracia´s crash for example , when he almost died from bleeding, if that would have been during a race run, and another rider wouldnt have stopped he probably should have died ( it´s Gracia so its imposible but you know what im saying)... a cut from a rotor from being run over is potentialy life threating too.
THAT WAS LONG, IM SORRY!!
  • + 2
 @stefanfresh : I do see your point. What I'm saying is Megavalanche isn't you and your mates riding the local park. If you're skilled enough to race and want to be successful, it's a different mindset. There's absolutely nothing wrong with your point and mindset, but you won't be a successful racer thinking like that. I can't think of any other race setting where other participants stop to help crashed/disabled/otherwise unable to continue competitors. Not only because you don't win if you do that, but also because you put yourself at risk. As I mentioned, I think the sport at large would eventually self-regulate...if enough people don't like a given event, series of events, venues, formats etc, then eventually they'll fade away.

Your point is valid. We just respectfully disagree.
  • + 1
 1:46 to 1:48 seem like he needed help.
  • + 0
 I lol'd
  • + 2
 @iammarkstewart Yeah, I also partially agree on your opinion man! but yeah, I guess Its me who doesnt like that format.
  • + 1
 @Dustfarter valid point yett in OUR small comunity we take care of eachother and build strong frindships. This is not US this is not WAR. Do you feel provoked in any way?
  • + 2
 Whut? Even if I understood what you're getting at, not sure mentioning mtb and war as part of whatever argument you're making is the way to get your point across.
  • + 74
 1:52 Did he have jet engine on his bike, a death wish or massive knackers!!!!
  • + 39
 Was probably on a 29er since I hear all the time how much faster they are over rough stuff.
  • + 9
 *sarcasm
  • + 0
 wow, this Jamie guy can ride that crap. Was he the same dude with gopro vid that was posted last year? I thought same thing then: this guy is insane fast in the snow. Too bad he got taken out there or he'd probably have won it.
  • + 4
 @broadyvrs I thought maybe he lost his brakes. 500 mm chainstays then maybe he keeps that in 2 wheels.

More exciting to watch than any enduro race ever.
  • + 3
 remember Carmageddon anyone?? hahaha
  • + 1
 you can get carmageddon on the iPhone or itoutch
  • + 6
 He clearly crashed because of the go pro on his helmet -UCI
  • + 1
 Haha exactly what I was thinking broadyvrs, dude was hauling
  • + 14
 Agh! I'm having flashbacks watching that. Got back from Alpe d'Huez last night. I've never been so terrified in my life. Just as that video fades out it comes to a black ice and rock plateau that you shoot across at a million miles an hour with only the overwhelming fear of falling onto sharp rocks keeping you upright.
  • + 1
 I won't do it even if you pay me !
  • + 15
 That one guy had an interesting technique. Both feet off the pedals out to both sides
  • + 1
 I added the vid to favourites just so I could watch that in the future!! amazing how fast he is going and for how long he manages to hold on
  • + 7
 Then he gets run over so hard. Wouldn't be surprised if he has broken bones after that one. I'm honestly impressed by the rider's ability to avoid people going down the rest of the time though
  • + 4
 Tripoding
  • + 14
 Im more amused about the fact that nobody dies.looks insane and intense
  • + 8
 The first year I did the Mega, we saw at least 40 people in the town with casts on, or broken collar bones. It is a proper race though, and in my opinion REAL enduro racing.... I understand it's not a format that is easy to reproduce in many places though.
  • + 7
 at 1:40 the guy with the camera is LITERALLY riding on another rider, and then crashes and after he continues the race like nothing ?????? the guy looks really suffering... f*ck guys where is the spirit of mountainbiking in there ??????????
  • + 6
 I saw that. He killed a guy. He should lay low for a while because he's probably wanted for murder.
  • + 5
 I was shocked at the total lack of compassion there , he full on smashed the dude and didn't even think to ask how he was , he was clearly in huge pain.
  • + 2
 Without trolling and being argumentative, you have to remember that a lot of the top guys have come here to win and them stopping and asking the people they have run over is not helping their chances, mainly because the other top guys wont be stopping either. And the privateers have probably paid a lot of money to enter and lots to get over there, plus above all else, there is not really much they can do to help.
  • + 4
 So winning a race is more important than checking a fellow human that you probably just broken the ribs of ? I'd say the guy is a c*nt and is the sort of person who would drive past a car crash even tho there is clearly no one helping , just because he's late for work.
  • + 1
 You have to remember that this guy is a pro and is under pressure from his sponsors to perform, even if he stops to check if the guys okay, he can't do anything to help him, and I am willing to bet that the other top riders would not stop either if they ran someone over. You look at the kind of race it is, 300+ blokes hurtling down a snowfield at 60+ kmh. Running people over is inevitable and it is unrealistic to expect to not get hit at some point. Holding it against someone because they didn't stop during a race (keyword) to help you is just silly. I wouldn't expect him to waste time helping me, and I wouldn't hold it against him, because he didn't mean it and at that part of the track everyone is basically a semi guided missile. There would have been more than two people run over and you aren't holding anyone else to ransom and calling them c*nts.
  • + 10
 At 0:55, he's next to a dude that appears to be wearing a kevlar flak jacket. That's some serious shit.
  • + 5
 Probably a good call
  • + 6
 Disclaimer: I've only done track schools (motorcycle) with "fun" race components. So I say this...you don't enter this without having some knowledge of what goes on in this event. Part of the appeal has to be the spectacle and accompanying risk. Based on what you see here (many riders flying around on a slick surface at relatively warp speeds), you know what that risk is. If you don't want to get hurt, don't enter. Otherwise, stay on your bike. You don't blame the bull when you get hurt running around Pamplona...
  • + 2
 Right on - full mx crash suit seems the most appropriate here.
  • + 6
 Crashing out on the ice/snow I could handle, being train wrecked by another rider, oooh not so much lol broken bones dont scare me to much but to total my bike.... I would cry so much
  • + 4
 To be fair, Jamie hits the commencal rider AFTER the outa control 2 feet down dive bomber dude totally smashes said commencal rider into the middle of next week. I don't see the dive bomber dude asking either! Jamie is a top bloke and would have been totally focussed on getting a result....how else do you start a race like this with two decent crashes and still finish 7th.....he must have passed a hundred plus other very good riders to do it.
  • + 6
 Megavalanche... a way to settle accounts with someone without witness !! Wink
Gunfight not "at the O.K. Corral" but at the top...
  • + 3
 Yeah but you can still really enjoy this race without trying to kill either yourself or other people.. There's so few out of the couple of thousand who race this who have any chance of getting into the front rows that actually the majority just ride it as fast and safely as they can and have a brilliant time.. That's how I approached it and it was amazing just to finish it with me and bike in one piece!!
  • + 2
 I think the guy with the " i don't use any more my feet when i am too fast " technique is the real danger !! he is like a bowling bowl and hit very hard the yellow rider that is already on the floor !! the helmet cam rider just try to manage his way through all the crash and personnally i don't think he ran over him, i'm not sure.
  • + 4
 It is brutal, I've done it 5 times ( and addictive ) ! But for all out craziness, the Mountain of Hell is the one, I crashed into another rider, on the snow at 61 mph !!!!!!
  • + 1
 61mph? are you sure it's not 61kph?
  • + 1
 for what it is going downhill doesn't seems that much of a stretch - look at descent speeds in road races.
  • + 1
 To the people claiming it was unsportmanslike: have any of you even watched a motocross race? Carnage, yes, but there are paid staff to do he medical work, and the riders job is to race.

I happen to do full time ski patrol. So if he had broken ribs - what medical help would you have given? This was meters from the start there there was staff right there. Even worst case the guy had a open pneumothorax and needed someone RIGHT THEN to live, the staff are seconds away.

Far as I saw he took as much as he gave in terms of potential for injury. I've been run over before! By my own quad, by another dirtbike, walked away from both, just as that rider did.
  • + 1
 Did that race a couple years ago. It was the most snow they had in 10 years. A brutal race if you're trying to compete, a brutal race if you're just along for experience. So many broken bikes and riders. In my opinion, Megavalanche is the coolest MTB/VTT race there is.
  • + 1
 Epic Riding!! It's competition... do you check every player in every tackle whilst playing football because maybe he needed help!! Maybe don't crash in front of him next time or, try xc it's a lot safer!! Smile
  • + 4
 Hilarious!! I want to have a go at it now... :-)
  • + 3
 That guy he hit was in serious pain. Hopefully someone took pity on him. I think I'd bring a drag chute along.
  • + 4
 This just made me want to do it more!
  • + 2
 are you allowed to enter on a sledge? looks like it would be a bit safer until you run someone over.
  • + 2
 CHINESE DOWNHILL! That dude got run over in the first 5 seconds lol
  • + 0
 Love the guy in the green shorts at the beginning that gives the snow bank a nice bump to stay on, reminds me of WRC, using the snowbanks to his advantage.
  • + 2
 real life Mario cart right there
  • + 2
 As soon as you see the guy fly by spread eagle at 1:35...
  • + 2
 Absalon brothers. Crushing mother f***ers for a long ass time now.
  • + 0
 Another pretty painful crash at 3:40 www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4OsCcPe4I0
  • + 1
 The guy at 1:53 was cooking!
  • + 0
 100s of racers taking off at once on an uncontrollable snow field, gee what could be funner
  • + 0
 All I can think of is the disc brake rotor slicing into someone's skills or neck and killing them... Donno why
  • + 1
 I wish I could get a 7th after having multiple crashes...
  • + 0
 @igorgoga call the ambulance i wonder what is the injury rate Mega Avalanche vs DH racing UCI Smile
  • + 1
 This looks insane...
  • + 0
 the people that were going fast enough when they fell just kept on sliding
  • - 1
 I am very sorry but this is the dumbest and unsportsmanship like thing I have seen in a while
  • + 0
 This is pretty much how the first world war happened. Forward, all costs.
  • + 0
 wtf ???? not even a look to the guy he just crashed !!!!!
  • + 0
 Did anyone see the guy in the wing suit?
1:10 in the sky
  • + 2
 Actually it is the helicopter Smile
  • + 0
 i feel sorry for the guy that he crashed
  • + 0
 Chequers or Wreckers!!!...but mostly wreckers
  • + 0
 1:38 where is the rider??
  • + 0
 Did all those people lose a bet or what the eff?!?!?!?!
  • + 1
 What a mosh-pit.
  • + 0
 when he looked back, that French dude sounded like he was getting raped!
  • + 0
 This is some serious shit^^
  • - 1
 who is the hurt rider ? from the picture he looks to be a commencal vallnord team rider . Nico quere ? :/ :/
  • - 1
 Not saying it isn't entertaining to watch...but this just doesn't look fun to me.
  • + 0
 guy at 1:52 come first? left the snow melting
  • + 0
 I want to go next year!!!!
  • + 0
 That was pretty gnarly.
  • + 0
 Jesus, that was brutal!
  • + 0
 Mega, as crazy as ever.
  • + 0
 no words.
  • + 0
 This vid made my day!
  • + 0
 Holy fuckballs!
  • - 1
 WORLDSTAR
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