They'd probably glide over the jumps like they were nothing for sure, but I think they'd probably struggle with some of the nasty tech sections? I could be wrong though?
Rampage vs Hardline is an illogical question. A Rampage line is built by the rider within their skill set. Riders who struggle with tech build smoother lines, so realistically anyone who can hit the massive features at Rampage can get to the bottom. Hardline requires far more technical ability.
Romaniak was doing the Hair Straight Back tour stuff in the old Stund webisodes. Wish they would make more of those, in fact I think I may have to go and watch some now.
Super T and Carlin Dunne will be great building a line! Carlin was with Super T One of my favourite Rider.......the Lines there rode were massiv.......Remember that part from NWD, as Carlin crashed and didnt recognize that his hand was broken.....awesome.....i really miss these movies!
^ The "phantom" drop I believe! That is the biggest drop with the sketchiest run in I've ever seen. Carlin Dunne had a sick moto-like style. We need another Ultimate Freeride Challenge to find more crazies like him.
holy shit its like a time machine. what about kinrade? he stills shralps, and while we are at it schleyer and wade deserve mention as well. i'd bring up tippie as well, but no need. hes still in the mix. drop in was cool.
@MarsTheGuy We get it, dick, our country is screwed up. Almost as tired of other people saying it as I am Bible thumpers freaking out about gay marriage.
I love how the victims of the U.S.'s shotty health care system are the ones who always take the flak for it. We are the victims...We didnt ask for this shit over here. I'd gladly move to BC or Europe and just ride bikes all day if it weren't for my daughter being here in the U.S. and the ex is pretty set on staying...so @MarsTheGuy take your rub it in your face attitude and shove it.
Hahaha, guys that was a joke.
I'm the first to be ashamed of the UK politically with the conservative party selling off the country to their rich friends and denying entry to the refugees they themselves created. Future looks bright with Corbyn though!
Americans get into enough trouble even when we have to pay for healthcare.. If we all were 'entitled to free healthcare' like in the UK, the whole country would be a giant episode of Jackass. Flaming jumps. bodies everywhere..
Corbyn would ruin the UK, he's a communist. but hey the youth know best uh huh vote Corbyn, kids. when you have less jobs, more debt, more terrorists, and they sell the gold fillings in your teeth then yo, congratulations you did well. must've forgotten about s certain Mr Tony Bliar not so long ago and his social engineering traitorous cronies
When do pepole finally realize that there is no such thing as free healthcare? You pay double or more on taxes to pay for the healthcare. Last time I was in Vancouver, B.C. they took out over 40% of your pay in taxes. For someone like me, that would quadruple my cost for healthcare, and decrease the quality of my healthcare. Socialist countries can be awesome, however to say that their healthcare is better is a big stretch. The real problem in the U.S. is the energy program and the two party "who has the most money" political system.
dualsuspensiondave - if they took 40% of your cheddar, you must be earning a fair bit. Congrats by the way! Base rate for earnings up to 44 grand and change is 15% to the feds, plus another 5% to the province so 20%. The next 45 grand (so from 44K to 89K) is taxed at 22% to the feds, another 7.7% to the province, totalling almost 30%. You have to make $138 000 before you pay a total of 40% to the federal and provincial gov'ts. Kinda stings to pay that much I guess, but I wouldn't know! I'm certainly not saying our healthcare system is perfect - far from it! I would have to drive 8 hrs and do the private healthcare thing to get a decent reconstructive ACL surgery and my mum is a year into the wait list for a hip replacement - pretty shitty system in a few places when you look at it. Sure am glad it's there though. When I blew my knee I had no waits or bills for care, and the quality of care was pretty good I thought. It is not free though - I pay $125 a month for my healthcare which covers my wife and kid too. whatever, politics suck - let's go biking!
@bakenbikin - That's crazy, because if that were true in Vancouver I would be living there or somewhere else in B.C. It's definitely more than that or was when I was there 8 years ago. There was a lot of under the table jobs there because of it (movie sets). I was told by multiple residents of B.C. and parts of Canada that 40-60% of pay was with held for taxes depending on where you live there. Hell, I get 30% taken out now here and have no healthcare. Even better though because a $14,000 surgery by a really good doctor only cost me $2000 without any insurance. Politics do suck! Stoked for you living in B.C., definitely the best place I've ever been. Cheers!
Cheers! i can tell ya I only pay the 20% due to my tax bracket. To be honest the only reason I could spout those numbers is cause I googled that shit! The governments have the full break down of the tax brackets if you were ever interested (or bored enough) to read them. There's other deductions off my pay check too - CPP (canada pension plan - bound to be totally drained dry by the time i ever get to retire!) and WorkSafeBC (basically workers comp insurance) - that adds a bit less than 5% to the total. I can't say I feel like I get total value for my 25% but it's not bad. I think the 40-60% numbers must have been just people frustrated with paying taxes complaining about the pain!
@SlodownU Trust me I've left this country many times fighting illegal wars so that you can make that retarded comment, and I have to say, life is pretty good in other parts of the world. Its great here in the U.S. too, but people actually put down their phones and enjoy it in other countries. You should try it some time, it might chill your ass out.
I do like out of this whole section of comments that the person who commented about UK healthcare is from the UK yet the rest of you are american and aren't what you'd call clued up on UK politics, Blair was an arsehole but let's remember why he decided to commit war crimes in the first place guys
The only people who get free healthcare are the lazy jobless scroungers who don't pay into it. See my N.I. contributions and then tell me it's free...and what do you get from the NHS, a waiting list so long you end up paying to go private. Sell off the NHS and let people get what they pay for, same with the BBC.
^^ Agreed, the lazy twats get everything then complain they don't get enough benefits yet they have top of the range everything and the rest of us can barely afford to live!! I'm waiting on getting allergy testing done, waiting list = 6+ months for a few blood tests
@mretard - so he could get votes from a blood thirsty public and gain pally pally influence with big brother USA and - the big one - get a nice fat retirement job at the EU? hmm ok WMD it is then
@gnarbar Completely agree on Corby, Personally not a fan of either Party but grew up Labour and to me it's astonishing this guys got in, maybe he was the best of a bad bunch but still. The dudes been around for ages, spouting his liberal, ultra Left wing bull.. Having a minutes silence for killed IRA terrorists, pals with Gerry Adams , anti Israel. anti armed forces, thinks Hamas and Hezbollah are "friends," doesn't believe in austerity when it's just another by word of a government living within it's means, wants an open door policy on all refugees and immigrants, which when you consider how Britain is already unbelievably stretched to breaking point on housing, the NHS, Schools and jobs, is quite a statement. Oh yes a massively left wing leader is exactly what Britain needs, not,
Fairclough does both and Remi Thirion is on the rampage invite list dunno if he'll go or not. There may be others too. The biggest reason world cup riders don't go is because the only thing that matters for the judges at rampage is tricks! they don't seem to care when someone like Fairclough has one of the most terrifying lines in existence!
At the moment, the event is in its' infancy, plus it's in an 'uncool' part of the MTB world - hell, it's even in an uncool part of Wales - I live here!, but... 1.If it continues to get the kind of exposure and positive props that you guys on here are giving it, and... 2. Dan and Gee can rope in 50 guys instead of 15 (the original field, this year) 3. Red Bull/geebeebee get highlight reels out quicker. 4. It becomes more spectator-friendly and more of a 'FEST'-ival 5. RB stump up 5 figures for a winners' cheque, then the event will grow, and we may see the likes of Lacondeguy, Aggy, Zink, Semenuk, Rheeder et al, attend in years to come. It all depends on how RB market it and whether they (and Athy, I guess) want the event to become a Crankworx style circus, or keep it more low-key, as it is now, more of an underground event (even with sponsors like Jeep and Red Bull!)
When's a decent vid coming out of this..!!?? They produced one of that stupid dangerous one in China or where ever the hell ASAP.... I'm still waiting for one on this
really neg propped for that? Rachel is undoubtabley the fastest in the girl world right now, and every single on of the women in the world cup is faster than me, but she couldn't hit most of the jumps on the course, either they would get no entrants, or you would destroy the top field when they died trying!
Shame the course wasn't dry. Hold that dangerous sh-t on another day Red Bull. Has the potential to be one of the sickest events of the year, especially after all the racing series are done. What else do we have until Rampage?
Don't be silly...Are you suggesting he didn't take photos of himself racing down a mountain and that there could be more than one person with the name Gee?
More like waste of time line. Don't get me wrong it's a sick course but when you only have 8 guys "racing" there is t that much to see. Last years course seemed way better almost like Dan was trying to hold a race FEST. Think it has a sh-t ton of potential but needed way more riders like everyone who competes at Rampage. I'm sure the FEST guys could handle the tech sections and send those jumps. Just my 2cents. Thanks for building it Dan!
I've ridden Rampage a lot, I live 45 minutes away, and I've raced DH all over and it's 2 different worlds of riding requiring different bikes and strengths. I think Hardline will be dominated by racers the same way Rampage will be dominated by Freeriders. Would love to see more guys racing Hardline but the timing makes it hard to get more guys involved since they are all probably burned out and ready for vacation after World Champs.
I haven't seen this course too thoroughly but those guys aren't just guys with all balls and no skills.
I'm sure they know how to manipulate a bike through the rough and rocks. e.g. Rampage
Some of those Fest guys have been free riding most of their lives. I wouldn't say a vast majority couldn't handle the run ins. On another note. Since Fest is going so big, what do you think Lacondeguy will pull on some of those Rampage jumps this yr.
Really? some of the fastest racers in the world were having trouble clearing those jumps, yes I know there pretty fast but I'm pretty sure they are really not on the same level as far as speed is concerned...
I live 45 minutes from the Rampage site and I can tell you that there is a big difference in riding straight down a cliff in virgin and carrying speed through rocky/wet turns. I would say most of the Fest guys would have a hard time making it through the course on Hardline because they spend their time learning tricks and they aren't forced to learn to carry speed the way a racer is forced to. Don't get me wrong, you've got to go scary fast at Rampage, but it's usually in straight lines with few uphills or turns.
Been to BC lately or any of Cascadia? It's wet, gnarly fast and twisted. I think people get caught up in Whistler videos thinking it's all groomed runs and perfect transitions. It's NOT!! Other than the magnitude of the jumps at Hardline, the decade old trails up at Crystal Mt. and Snoqualmie here in Wa. were more demanding technically IMHO.
That said, if the freeride or FEST guys hadn't been doing what they were doing or Berrecloth hadn't of showed up and pulled a 360 drop, hardline would not have happened, those jumps wouldn't have been thought possible and vice versa.
Give props to both since they both have sort of complimented each other and shown what is possible on 2 wheels...but to think the FEST guys can't ride that shit fast enough to clear anything is ridiculous. Sorry!!
agreed with modest. the fest boys don't just ride groomed shit all the time. they are legit shredders and the only thing that woulda kept some of them off the podium would have been that they stopped mid race to sesh the step up or else too many high fives mighta slowed them down. aggy woulda killed that shit.
drop in was cool.
Base rate for earnings up to 44 grand and change is 15% to the feds, plus another 5% to the province so 20%. The next 45 grand (so from 44K to 89K) is taxed at 22% to the feds, another 7.7% to the province, totalling almost 30%. You have to make $138 000 before you pay a total of 40% to the federal and provincial gov'ts. Kinda stings to pay that much I guess, but I wouldn't know!
I'm certainly not saying our healthcare system is perfect - far from it! I would have to drive 8 hrs and do the private healthcare thing to get a decent reconstructive ACL surgery and my mum is a year into the wait list for a hip replacement - pretty shitty system in a few places when you look at it. Sure am glad it's there though. When I blew my knee I had no waits or bills for care, and the quality of care was pretty good I thought. It is not free though - I pay $125 a month for my healthcare which covers my wife and kid too.
whatever, politics suck - let's go biking!
There's other deductions off my pay check too - CPP (canada pension plan - bound to be totally drained dry by the time i ever get to retire!) and WorkSafeBC (basically workers comp insurance) - that adds a bit less than 5% to the total. I can't say I feel like I get total value for my 25% but it's not bad. I think the 40-60% numbers must have been just people frustrated with paying taxes complaining about the pain!
1.If it continues to get the kind of exposure and positive props that you guys on here are giving it, and...
2. Dan and Gee can rope in 50 guys instead of 15 (the original field, this year)
3. Red Bull/geebeebee get highlight reels out quicker.
4. It becomes more spectator-friendly and more of a 'FEST'-ival
5. RB stump up 5 figures for a winners' cheque,
then the event will grow, and we may see the likes of Lacondeguy, Aggy, Zink, Semenuk, Rheeder et al, attend in years to come.
It all depends on how RB market it and whether they (and Athy, I guess) want the event to become a Crankworx style circus,
or keep it more low-key, as it is now, more of an underground event (even with sponsors like Jeep and Red Bull!)
this is a Red Bull exotic event, its not a WC race or Fest someone event, its the Red Bull Hard Line and thats it!!!
transitions. It's NOT!! Other than the magnitude of the jumps at Hardline, the decade old trails up at Crystal Mt. and Snoqualmie here in Wa. were more demanding technically IMHO.
That said, if the freeride or FEST guys hadn't been doing what they were doing or Berrecloth hadn't of showed up and pulled a 360 drop, hardline would not have happened, those jumps wouldn't have been thought possible and vice versa.
Give props to both since they both have sort of complimented each other and shown what is possible on 2 wheels...but to think the FEST guys can't ride that shit fast enough to clear anything is ridiculous. Sorry!!