Video: Remy Metailler Urges You to Ditch Disposables

Aug 15, 2019
by Rémy Métailler  

Being a pro rider is awesome but it can leave a big impact on our planet. We fly to different countries to race our bikes, drive to ride new trails every day. Our equipment is usually made in Taiwan, shipped across the world twice before it gets to us… At the end of the day, it’s a job and nearly any job or activity leaves a mark on our beautiful planet.

However, there are plenty of little things that every day we can all do together to reduce our impact. #ditchdisposables is one of them. Basically, it is the idea of stopping or reducing the use of disposable or single use products, such as paper or plastic cups.

I feel fortunate to be able to communicate with such a vast amount of people, and I have chosen to use my social media as a vehicle to promote a positive message on something I’m passionate about.

It’s costless and effortless to get involved and I believe that if we all do it, it will make a difference.

Thank you Camelbak for supporting this project. I sincerely hope that people will see this message and understand the importance of it.

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297 Comments

  • 266 5
 Tired of inaction hiding behind the carbon frames argument. Plastic drinks bottles, plastic lined coffee cups etc are far more numerous in volume and impact. He is advocating for people starting to do something rather than doing nothing and hiding behind excuses.
The other point to note is that this isnt just about carbon emissions, its about micro plastics in the oceans and a million other impacts related to single use!
The impact of an individual doing one less flight, using reusable coffee and soda cups, water bottles instead of plastic bottles, not using tear offs, doing less driving etc has a big impact both as an individual and as a wider movement.
Not possible? Look at what the UK has done with plastic bags in the last 5 years, look at what it is doing removing plastic straws from restaurants and bars. The more we try, the more possible these things become and the easier they become. The more we put up barriers and dont look harder at ourselves, the harder we make this stuff. As Henry Ford said 'Whether you think something is possible or not, you are probably right'.
  • 43 3
 I wish I could upvote you several times. All The comments against this initiative are just an excuse to not to do anything. I have to drive to work. I have to drive to the trails. if at least i produce less rubbish, then is an step in the right direction, even if only make a 0.1% difference, well that is a gain.
  • 44 15
 “Carbon frames are terrible” argument is nothing more but an inflatable armchair for folks who want to find even more comfort in doing nothing and happen to have an aluminium one. And that armchair is inflated with farts made of good intentions and collective guilt.

First off you didn’t buy an alu frame because you are a fkng Green Peace warrior. Oh what a sacrifice to ride an alu Giant Reign or Stumpy instead of a carbon Bronson, oooh, I can only imagine how hard it was for you.

Second: that bike is not just a frame. Fkng Pole made by Finnish Green Fairies or a Commencal made by Andorran Beavers is dressed up with many components, some of which take much bigger toll on environment than the frame. Suspension fork is a good example. Then, how manufacturing is performed in relation to environmental factors is everything, no matter the material. How do you know Commencal runs a super clean factory that doesn’t spill oils or paint straight into a river? You don’t.

All these “shocking news” are good to have but make sure you don’t use them to feel better about sitting on your arse. Recreational empathy is a fact, humans do get such information in and then feel as if they did something good, just because they got touched by it. It’s a documented mental process.
  • 25 61
flag jozefk (Aug 15, 2019 at 3:21) (Below Threshold)
 This foolishness that it goes bad with the world is complete none sense.
The world will outlive us all. 80% and 70% of all species died in the past, and look what has come back.

It is not nature or the world where we care about, it is about our own survival. We, and even the greenest junkies, are the biggest egoistic hypocrites ever!
  • 20 1
 @jozefk: Um no. Lots of people care about nature for nature's sake.
  • 3 0
 @jozefk: What is your proposal here, then?
  • 11 0
 Just find the little things you can do and actually do them. Quite often it even gets you a cheaper yet better product. Some simple things that I can think of that I find well worth a try (and which I've been happily using for decades):

- Loose leave tea over tea bags. Many brands of tea bags just contain the tiny rolling residu, not proper big leaves. I think the best loose leave tea is cheaper per cup of tea than the cheapest tea bags.
- Dual edge razor blades over all these modern multi-blade plastic-metal assemblies that are hard to recycle. Admitted a dual edge razor blade is still a disposable but at least it is only steel. Much easier to recycle. I just bought 200 blades for under 10 euros on the market. What do those modern blades set you back? I haven't tried an open blade yet for shaving though.
- Shaving soap over those pressurized shaving foam cans.

Admitted all these products still come with packaging so it doesn't completely do away with disposables but I feel it definitely cuts back on them and arguably gives you a better product. Not saying it is for everyone but I feel these "old fashioned" options are being overlooked these days because of the way the modern alternatives are being marketed.
  • 36 17
 If you really care you should go vegan too. Most of the plastic in the ocean is from commercial fishing, and the meat and dairy industries are one of the most significant polluters. It's such a simple solution, and anyone can do it!
  • 11 9
 Nobody says the carbon frame argument is bigger than any other. But it is as big as "ditching disposables".

Aluminium and steel Frames require a lot of energy to be made, but, they're not made out of plastic, they hardly produce any waste whereas carbon frame production DOES ALOT, and, most important, they have a really high recycling rate. Our Oceans are not filled with Metal Bike frames. I'm not saying they are better, just not as bad as carbon.

You can't recycle carbon, you can grind that shit and make I don't know, Carbon bricks out of it, but it won't become carbon fiber again. You are right that our frames are not the biggest issue in all this. An Airbus Wing will probably give like a couple frames or something, but still, it is a part that we could do and also a piece to the puzzle.

Also, back in the day you bought a bike and had that thing for years, now I see 12 year old riding around on high End bikes even my Dad was dreaming about when he was little.

Like I said, It will all fail to our need to consume. Cars, travel, Food, packaging, and the individual need for "freedom" as they call it.

Also using the UK as an example "look what we have don banning plastic straws" are you kidding me??Plastic Straws are not even the tip of the Iceberg. Half of your people voted for dudes that deny climate change is human made ffs!

I say do what you can and try to do more! We as individuals can do a lot, but the big guys in big companies, politicians, thats where stuff needs to happen. f*ck plastic straws, plastic packaging all together should be banned!
  • 2 2
 We'll said
  • 29 3
 All of this is just fiddling around the edges really. As with any environmental debate the elephant in the room is the explosion in global population. Human population has more than doubled in the past 60 years or so (from around 3.7 bn in the 50's to around 8 bn today), to the direct detriment of other species and the planet.

Either we find a way of humanely controlling the global population, or the planet will do it for us inhumanely.
  • 5 23
flag Bayonetwork (Aug 15, 2019 at 5:20) (Below Threshold)
 @tremeer023: What a load of crap. That's not the biggest issue, there's enough room for everyone. How do you want to humanly control the population?! Did you find a glove with some infinity stones?

Also, polluting our planet is only possible from a small percentage, don't know how much exactly but not even 30%, controlling the population will not do shit.
  • 12 1
 @Bayonetwork: I think you misunderstand. My comment has nothing to do with having enough room for everyone. The point is that when one species population grows at a significantly higher rate than others, there are bound to be detrimental consequences for the remaining species and the wider environment.
  • 19 0
 @Bayonetwork: I think you should open you eyes. Why do humans cut down forests ? To make fields that will feed people. Why do we remove trees in the cities ? To build more buildings to fit more people. Why are there more chicken than any other bird species? To feed people.

Overpopulation is the reason why we notice the impact of pollution and it's also the reason why making things change is so difficult.
  • 5 2
 @piman: www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/03/great-pacific-garbage-patch-plastics-environment

correct, most of the plastic in the ocean is from the fishing industry...

It would probably do us all good to stop eating meat and dairy...but I know I’ll never stop....but I also won’t be POLLUTING THE PLANET WITH MY OFFSPRING EITHER!
  • 12 11
 @piman: if you go vegan can you still eat ribeyes? Because if it’s a no then I’m a hard pass
  • 4 22
flag Y12Sentinel (Aug 15, 2019 at 6:18) (Below Threshold)
 @piman: BS! commercial plant agriculture is far worse. All forms. Meat and dairy are not even close to the environmental impact. If you move on to compare them on a gram per gram basis of nutrient density, bioavailability, and presynthesized fat soluble vitamins, along with environmental impact; plant agriculture is a nightmare. The vegan movement is almost like a nwo population control agenda right out of an Orwell novel.
  • 7 1
 @meathooker: Does your name imply that you f*ck for meat?
  • 7 0
 @Y12Sentinel: 30% of agricultural land is used for livestock and livestock feed...

www.onegreenplanet.org/environment/livestock-feed-and-habitat-destruction

Do you not think that Orwell was onto something???
  • 9 0
 @tremeer023: Ok I actually did, you‘re right!
  • 16 0
 @Y12Sentinel: how exactly do you think livestock get fed? Food fairies? 70% of US grain goes to feeding livestock.
  • 12 5
 @Y12Sentinel: you're out to lunch. Been drinking the republican cool aid?
  • 15 5
 the main problem with this message is that you're speaking to the wrong audience. If you've ever been to a 3rd world or "Developing" nation, they aren't just not hearing this, they are doing 1000x the opposite. Plastic waste stacked feet deep in the gutters, being thrown in the water and oceans and absolutely no emission controls on their vehicles at all. (This comes from having been in Moldova, Guatemala, Nicaragua, India) So all of this amounts to a lot of virtue signaling in a part of the world that is doing the most to curb it's impact on the environment, while the 3rd world doesn't hear and doesn't adhere either.
  • 7 0
 @meathooker: it’s your life, I don’t stay hard and fast to one way of eating. I try to eat more plants and be conscious of my consumption. I reserve eating cow for the instances where it’s prepared best and well, like brisket on occasion, as opposed to eating a poor quality hamburger every night. I think conscious moderation is the most important.
  • 4 1
 @Y12Sentinel: Please provide a link to a single source on those claims and educate us.
@piman: I don't know if ribeye is a daily occurrence for you, but if in all regards you went vegan but still allowed yourself a ribeye or two a week, it really would have a positive effect. I only replied because you suggested the only thing keeping you from being "plant based" is ribeye. Your move Wink
  • 9 1
 @preach: US has BY FAR the highest per-capita carbon emissions and BY FAR the highest per-capita plastic consumption in the world. Third world countries have miniscule impacts on carbon emissions and plastic production in comparison, although deforestation is a serious issue in many.
  • 1 0
 @dthomp325: I think that per capita stuff is not correct, there is arabian countries higher than that. Also I think Australia is also ahead of the USA in that matter.

Also per country, China is highest, but the USA is number 2. It should also be noted that germany is no6 which is crazy given how small we are in comparison.
  • 9 13
flag SacAssassin (Aug 15, 2019 at 7:50) (Below Threshold)
 Unpopular opinion: Stop riding bikes. They contribute to pollution.

Get rid of your cellphone and computer


Learn to walk barefoot. Walk everywhere barefoot.

Sell your car, home and belongings. Learn to forage for edible invasive plant species.

Shower when it rains.

Good job neanderthal!
  • 6 8
 @SacAssassin: everything was better back then! And ooooh the industrial GMO farming ooooh! Sprayed with DDT that ironically is the biggest contributor to disappearance of malaria from US. Ooooh horrible! I miss me some miscarriage, slavery, recreational lynch and thousands of men going out to the field to slaughter each other. Pre industrial era was so good!
  • 8 0
 @WAKIdesigns: do you not have sarcasm in Sweden?
  • 5 1
 @dthomp325: I think you're off on the emissions part, China is higher and also I believe that several middle eastern countries are the tops. Also over half of the trash in the ocean is from the developing countries (including china, which is a mix of 3rd world and 1st world) around the pacific rim.
  • 2 0
 @piman: true story.
  • 3 0
 @dthomp325: along with 80% of all pharmaceuticals produced in the US going into livestock! Gross.
  • 3 2
 @Bayonetwork: just to be clear, less than 20% of the US population voted for the climate denial king, and less than 30% of eligible voters. Also I’m not sure why you’re minimizing the effect of banning plastic straws, then saying we should do everything we can and more… plastic straws are an easy target and a stepping stone for building plastic-ban momentum.
  • 3 2
 @preach: China's overall emissions are higher than the US, but their per-capita emissions are less than half of the US's: 6tons vs 15tons / year.
  • 1 2
 @Golden-G: that is a lie
  • 1 3
 @unrooted: please present a source without such an extreme bias and loaded language to sway readers
  • 1 2
 @dthomp325: whats a food fairie?
  • 3 2
 @Y12Sentinel: it's what morons believe feeds livestock...whereas people with the slightest bit of common sense know that livestock eat grains and grass that needs to be grown somewhere...
  • 1 1
 Save the Whales save those big fat funky Whales, we're going to save all the Whales buuuuuut shoot the Seals.
  • 1 2
 @jozefk: @jozefk: Wrong. The level of toxicity humans will eventually leave the planet with will be incompatible with biodiversity.
  • 2 3
 @unrooted: They eat grain because it makes them grow faster and is more profitable for the farmer.

They are grazing animals. Grass, shrubs, weeds etc. Naturally occurring plants.

A 5 year old understands this.
  • 1 3
 @jclnv: no shit. I live in a rural/ag community...full of cows and hay fields...what do you propose they use most of the hay for? Also do you think that those cows eating naturally grown grass aren't causing some form of environmental degredation? Ranchers get rid of all predators, and the cows are "competing" with the grazers that are naturally there, like deer, buffalo, etc.
  • 2 3
 @unrooted: Yep. I hardly eat red meat. There needs to be major public education on the subject as most people think they need to eat it everyday.
  • 1 3
 @unrooted: i did just that. I was being sarcastic
  • 5 1
 Buddy no one wants to read your wall of text @WAKIdesigns:
  • 2 0
 @bishopsmike: Underrated comment. Nature is worth more than what we can sell it for.
  • 2 6
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 15, 2019 at 13:18) (Below Threshold)
 @highfivenwhiteguy: nature is not a loving mother. It is a bitch that gave us life only to throw us into the mud at the mercy of the beasts and elements. The whole process of our evolution is a story of survival, first beasts and elements, then ourselves, then germs and diseases, now climate change. We are fighting for survival, increasing complexity, now looking to give birth to new life forms like AGI, self repairing space vessels with replicating forms capable of colonizing the galaxy. If taking a step back in a couple of places is necessary to achieve it, then so be it. But nobody actually cares about good intentions of a few hippies. If we are to limit climate change and pollution, then it will happen solely out of convenience. We are beyond the age of great ideals, age that gave birth to things like holocaust, stalinism, Vietnam war etc.
  • 4 0
 People seem to have trouble taking ownership. Don't waste your internet bandwidth claiming what others should or shouldn't do. There is a lot that can or shouldn't be done. Decide for yourself what you really need/love/want and what you can do without. I read an interview with Brian May (guitar player, astronomer) once where he said he knows he should be vegan, but he just loves cheese too much so he's just a vegetarian. So that's it. Cheese is important for him. For others it is travel, others may love fast cars, many or us here appreciate a high performance bike (and fresh tires, fresh suspension oil, freshly bled brakes etc). Just look for yourself at what you can cut back on. There sure must be some. The article here is about disposables. And still a doctor would go and say "sure, but I'll stick to single use syringes and needles thank you very much".
  • 1 0
 @Bayonetwork: What are your scientific credentials to make such claims?
  • 4 2
 @Bayonetwork: Environmental protection is good but you are confusing that with the clima debate. Clima is a totally different topic. You say that climate change is human made. I would say that the climate change debate is political and not a discussion about logical conclusions. The most even do not know the common definition of clima. The clima topic is a religion with fixed answers we have to believe in (and we have to pay for). To raise some critical questions about the clima and correlation to (human made) co2 can produce some trouble. The easiest way is to believe the political correct mainstream. In germany everyone have to pay for those TV stations who deliver us the "real truth". Even if you are not interested in their political opinion (or you do not own a TV or a Radio) you have to pay monthly for those state TV and Radio stations. All private persons and also all companys must pay for getting "correct informed" ! They tell us in the 8pm news that all people have to be behind fridays for future and that we need a co2 tax to avoid the hell on earth. I do not believe that voting or elections can change anything. It´s like a mouse can vote for the next cat ;-)
  • 4 1
 @piman: Or Vegetarian if you want to have it a little easier but still make a difference. (and yes, I am Vegetarian, Vegan would be hard for me Wink )

"...The Nature paper estimates that the carbon cost of chicken is six times higher than soya, while milk is 15 times higher and beef 73 times. One kilo of beef protein has a carbon opportunity cost of 1,250kg: that, incredibly, is roughly equal to driving a new car for a year, or to one passenger flying from London to New York and back..."
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/08/ipcc-land-climate-report-carbon-cost-meat-dairy

Or take no or less children.
"...Researchers from Lund University in Sweden found having one fewer child per family can save “an average of 58.6 tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions per year”..."
www.independent.co.uk/environment/children-carbon-footprint-climate-change-damage-having-kids-research-a7837961.html

Flying less is also high on the list (Am I allowed one Whistler trip per year if I eat no meat all year and have no kids, and will never will. I like to think so... But in the end it is everybody's own call of course)
  • 1 1
 @piman: what is your source for claiming that most of the plastic in the ocean is from commercial fishing?
I know that they pollute but I have never seen that claim. You may be right...
Love to know more
  • 3 2
 @unrooted: That has to be the weakest source you could have pointed to. The article only talks about the Pacific garbage patch. READ, ask questions, look beyond.
Meanwhile microplastics found in Arctic ice.
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/arctic-ice-microplastics-1.5246980
  • 3 0
 @preach: exactly. While it is entirely up to us to do absolutely everything we can, the environmental travesty unfolding in 3rd world nations with respect to plastic land and oceanic waste is a problem apparently without resolve.
  • 1 0
 @GnarAZ: my man
  • 3 2
 @bishopsmike:
The greenest angels are the biggest flyers mostly.
They all own Ipad, Pod, Phone, Mac, Book.
They all want to see the most beautifull places in the world, so they destroy them with masses and make tourist paradises.
Here -> all wanna bike on the best spots, which in essence is killing nature and giving animals trouble.

I am just not this saint type. I accept what happens, we are like that. The rest is hypocracy.
Ask the green angels how much of their money and time they want to sacrifice to their socalled green dream!
They will have no answer.

If you care about nature, and really wanna do something, quit life. All the green dreamers want the good for the world ... like the new Green Dream Movement in USA. Laughable. The big industry is sitting behind them to get all the contracts and subsidies for the projects to be build. But never you hear that we have to use less electricity, stop innovation, use less electrical devices like iPhone, Ipad, Ibook, Imac and so on. Funny all the devices start their name with I Wink
We in the north use 40-60x more energy than an average African! Why? Read the above again!
But hey no... the green dreamers want more innovation, create windmill industry next to our normal energy supply for example. All BS.
We are destructible as people. we are parasites. It is time for a big war to end it. Those peaceful Americans will deliver it. of their 200+ years existence they are 90% in wars. For the sake of peace you know Wink
Sitting back eating popcorn and drinking beer. Bunch of hypocrites here!
  • 3 1
 @preach: I agree. The brutal reality is that 3rd world countries use the oceans as a garbage disposal system. Until you witness it first hand, it is hard for many in the west to fathom. It would be more beneficial to the oceans, to help develop free land fill systems in these countries. Then for us not to get a take away coffee cup, or use plastic shopping bag. Its all a bit like “Earth Hour”, its pure self indulgent tokenism.
  • 2 2
 @up-left-down-right: yeah ofc, the third world countries...
Who is selling them this garbage and not doing anything to educate, or to clean there?
Right, US!
  • 2 2
 @jozefk: you are kidding me... wait! yourself. Stop behaving as if third world countries were looking like Atlantis before Colonials came in and burned it down to the ground. All these movies showing rich western bankers fueling civil wars to keep prices of resources low, oh guess what, it wasn't Atlantis, it wasn't idylle from the Last Samurai, it just wasn't. Tribal wars were going on in there, always (heard it from a guy form Nigeria, now a PhD in UK), and maybe they were not as orchestrated and organized as today, but you are not going to cry over a village being chopped down with Machetes and spears over shot by Kalashnikovs. How about Red Khmers? They were after equality and hated capitalism and colonialism. Look how well this idealism ended for them. Is that your alternative?. As bas as exploitation of Africa looks, they are still better off. They are fricking better off. It is getting better and better. We had a dude from Sierra Leone at our work, we "designed" a hospital for them. And some a*shole at the party comes up to him and says: "oh how horrible that you don't have a septic delivery room". Guy looked at him and said: at least we have a room and a doctor, previously woman had a tent and her mother. For you it's little, for us it is a lot.

So make sure you know what you are talking about.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Your examples are incredibly one sided. Wars are a "natural" thing for human, but when colonial nations "created" countries and drew borders based on their military conquest rather than based on native's ethnies, clan, tribes, languages, or geography (mountains, rivers), they set up conditions for durable conflicts.
Now if you add to this the fact that every single mining and oil company implanted there is from "rich" countries, employs engineers from rich countries rather than locals, and get/got advantages by corrupting local politicians...

And the "even if it's little of us is a lot for them" does not work when you give to a village medicine that should be stored at -20 but there is not even a fridge in this village. Or when you give kids milkpowder so they don't drink the HIV infected milk from their moms, but they have to dissolve this powder in mud and die from infections as a baby instead of growing up as an HIV infected person...

I mean the clusterfck it is is not 100% our fault, but "we" greatly contributed to it, and some of things "we" do to help are just plain stupid and help only to clear our conscience...
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: You talk rubbish, stay of the drugs...
All you say has nothing to do with the pollution that our products bring to their countries.
Ever been to Indonesia?
They throw plastic on the ground, the rain takes it and flushes it into the sea, rivers and so on.
Why?
Before they all wrapped everything in Coconut leaves. Then our corporations came.
All plastic packed products, but hey, no telling them what to do, or how to put up an recycling or garbage cycle.
Same like the banks, the people just dont understand it. They lived from day by day and from nature so all was disposable. Now they get plastic and treat it the same way.
Same how banks now put them full with lones... they do not understand that their moped is just living for 1 year and their lone will be there for the next 5 years.
Well Waki... well thought from your rich armchair ; )
  • 1 1
 @jozefk: we didn’t tell them what to do, oh really... is this your way of dealing with not being called a racist? For calling third world countries being freaking quite behind since forever?!

Look, I come from Poland, I go there often, quite a large part of this nearly 40mln strong country does not give a freaking clue about environment. Poland is the biggest air polluter in Europe, if you look at air quality map of Europe there’s a big red square in the middle. People burn incredible sht to warm their houses and water: plastic, old tires, worst coal like crap that even Russians don’t want to use so they export it. At best, they burn gas from Russia. It is advised not to exercise outdoors in cities. Sorting garbage? Hahahah

Again, it makes no bloody sense to blame third worlds countries striking incontinence on fricking garbage disposal on Western corporations. That is like blaming parents for their 1yr old shitting it’s pants.
  • 1 0
 Meh?! In 70 years time we’d have run out of oil and will be back on horse fighting each other over the very last scraps of civilisation no longer polluting on a mass global scale. Population numbers will be controlled by a severe technical drop off and a return to a preindustrial lifestyle. You also need to take into account the billions that would die when we started nuking each other over the last of earths resources. In a few decades nobody will even know what plastic is.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: dont talk bullshit, I know Poland very good. Stop talking nonsense and stay of the drugs.
And you just again try to make your point over a totally not connecting subject.
  • 1 1
 @thenotoriousmic: oil will never run out. Oilfield neber dry out. Oil is coming from the earth and it just refills, they dont know much about it why.
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: tell me the city names in Poland.
  • 1 0
 @jozefk: well the Saudi Arabians are now drilling for oil offshore and they wouldn’t be doing that if it was still magically pouring out of the desert. They’re clearly running out or they wouldn’t be going further afield for it. Ether way there isn’t an infinite amount of resources on this planet and if we don’t get of this planet to get more that will be the end of us and the earth will be safe again until the next technically advanced civilisation arises.
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 @thenotoriousmic: assumptions.
30 years ago all said that oild would run out in 30 years. All the sudden USA became exporter of oil after being the biggest importer.
Oil is spraying out of the ground everywhere.
Why you think the OPEC is deciding to bring less oil to the market? Wink
  • 2 0
 @jozefk: not an assumption. We’ve definitely got a finite amount of resources on this planet. Ha
  • 1 0
 @thenotoriousmic: yeah but there’s enough of some to turn it into a sauna. Like it is with coal. The trouble is, as true as it may be that there are many billionaire a*sholes who will want to become zillionaires on fossil fuels, there enough green morons to cause quite counterproductive actions. Like it happened in Germany after Fukushima. Nuclear is so “terrible” that we will instead increase coal burning ten fold in the “clean” coal plants. Nobody gained as much from nuclear bitching as coal lobby. Congratulations greenies!
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 And the worst bit is that wishful stupid part of environmentalists, those who have biggest influence, they are unable to see broader picture (exactly the thing they accuse others of) or gather a few simple facts like: how much energy is required to extract, refine and waste manage Nuclear fuel, per how much energy it produces, then how does it look for alternatives and what alternatives we have. Because they just say that nuclear is horrible, coal is horrible and we should move to renewables. And they say insane sht like: there is so much energy in tides, waves! Oh good fkng luck harnessing that. We all know how “great” wind power is. Then they say insane sht like: we need electric passenger planes! The last phase of the mental illness is: Nikola Tesla and his wireless power, destroyed by corporate Edison...
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: While nuclear could be a good solution, it's prohibitively expensive to open new nuclear plants (at least in the US). Much more expensive than wind or solar in the US and can't currently be built without massive government subsidies. Meanwhile unsubsidized solar and wind are already both cheaper than fossil fuel generation in most of the country and in sunny states solar + energy storage is quickly approaching fossil fuel generation price.
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 @WAKIdesigns: if we swapped to fully nuclear tomorrow overnight we’d only have five or ten year supply of uranium we’ve got about 100 years under current usage so that’s not an option. You also need to take into account all the nuclear power stations doing a fukashima after the collapse of civilisation. Really don’t need more nuclear power stations. They’re do a good idea if we were a smart intelligent species but we’re just stupid bald monkeys f*cking each other over and the planet for made up slave credits. So we’ll probably get what we deserve.
  • 1 1
 @WAKIdesigns: holland seems to be a far bigger polluter then Poland. Your map shows nothing though.
  • 1 1
 @dthomp325: whaha...solar and wind are cheaper, great fun here.
And ever gave this though some space: Normally the earty bounces most of solar energy and heat off. Now we keep it here and make warmth of it. What will that do?
Wind, pleasee dont even start.
Batterries, ever seen the devistation that lithium mining brings to the nature?
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 @jozefk: and Alberta's tar sands are an environmental delight...
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 @jozefk: you are a moron. Map shows quite clearly that air quality in Poland is crap. 2 years ago in Gothenburg during a period of a few days in winter it was advised not to exercise outdoors. Wind brought in smog from Poland... I am in Poland 4 times a year, speak the language, and have personally experienced how horrific air is in certain places. Yeah, good luck
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 @WAKIdesigns: you said Poland was the biggest polluter in Europe, well it is not even close!
You are the moron!

My wife is Polish, I own land there and I think I know the country quite well.
What those damn Swedes are advising 2 years ago (wow 2 years and never happend again Razz ) I dont care about it. I can tell you there is no problem at all because I come there often.
That you speak the language, so what?
Does that make you right in this discussion? No... you talked a bunch of crap, nothing more.
So again, tell me the places and I will tell you if I was there and my experience!
Also my wife I will ask to see if there is any evidence in Polish to support your none sense!
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 @jonnyboy: Who said that?
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 @jozefk: [sarcasm], sorry if that was lost on you.
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 @jonnyboy: omg you are funny... wowwwwww... best sarcasm of today
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 @jozefk: cleantechnica.com/2016/05/12/lithium-mining-vs-oil-sands-meme-thorough-response/amp
Quote:
Now, it’s a safe bet that someone, sometime has told you that lithium mining is awful. That it requires big holes like that one that was used to make the copper pipes, and copper wires, and copper electronics you use every day. Someone told you that, even though it’s not true.

Why did they tell you that? Because someone knew just enough to know that lithium is used in electric car batteries, and that someone was enough of a dickweed to want to make electric cars look bad. Even though they knew they were lying.
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 @jozefk: according to cleantechnica, I suppose that makes you the biggest dickweed of the day Wink
Their words, not mine!
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 @jonnyboy: ehm no.. not a safe bet.
Assumption is the mother of all f*ck up's.
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 @jozefk: sorry, then you have to prove me otherwise. I am Polish BTW. I like your emotional involvement.
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 @jozefk: You can hear it in News all over how air in big cities, especially in the south, Krakow, Zakopane, Zywiec is terrible, comparable with Paris because people burn shit (garbage, coal, tyres, oils) to warm up houses and water. Yes, majority of households generates heat from highly inefficient furnices without any filters what so over. Most stoves are gas stoves. Over 80% of electricity in Poland is generated from coal, 70% of which is brown coal imported from Russia. It’s a transit country, there’s plenty of congestion on roads, traffic jams, many families own 2 cars, public transport is stigmatized as something for the poor. You mentioned Holland, are you mad? Poland has 39mln citizens. Czech republic, Dlovakia, Hungary are not much better. You honestly have to be in huge denial to visit Poland in winter and not get the fundamental difference in air quality between it and Western Europe.

And I used the example of Poland to illustrate that if Poland is like that, imagine what less developed countries are doing. Good luck living in your Northern mental bubble. Environmental Mea Culpa all day long and respect other cultures. Guess what, most of those other countries don’t give a flying fck and think We are stupid. In the end we hear that we are giving home to terrorists.
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 @WAKIdesigns: I have to prove you nothing. You are in no position for that.
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 I took a huge dump in the woods today. Your welcome!
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 @WAKIdesigns: Krakow was already in middle ages known for the smoke, cause it is in a valley.
The king then even moved because of that. Then there were almost none people compared to now.

The amount of people in Poland compared to Holland does not matter. Schiphol and the marine port Rotterdam are producing much more pollution. The 16 biggest ships produce the same amount of CO2 as all the cars in the world, did you know that?
Also Shell is selling all chemical waste mixed with oil to burn in the ships, loads of info on that too.

Poland is nothing compared to Holland in pollution.
That is, if you see CO2 as pollution, which I am not.

Holland too had a load of coal and still have. Germany same!
You talk rubbish about your own home country, Polish people despise people like you. Runaway lefty.
How can you even talk about your home country like this while they only are out of communism for a few decades, while the Germans took over most of the industry for a penny. How can you expect them to heat their houses on modern techniques while earning almost nothing.
You are no Polish person, you are a traitor who ran to the enemy (Swedes which invades Poland several times) and now is pointing his finger from the rich Sweden to poor Poland that they are not performing on the same level. Shame on you Waki!
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 @WAKIdesigns: Quote: And I used the example of Poland to illustrate that if Poland is like that, imagine what less developed countries are doing. Good luck living in your Northern mental bubble /quote

And no... you are completely wrong about this. Do your research before you spill your oral blubber over this website.
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 @jozefk: all this bullshit you wrote with some moralizing and you haven’t even bothered googling Co2 emissions per country, per capita per country. As IF air pollution was about Co2. You haven’t even made this tiny effort to make a quick logical check to compare size and population of Netherlands vs Poland.

So sorry buddy, good luck with accusing others of your own treats. Your talk is way cheaper than mine.

So educate yourself:
www.greenmatch.co.uk/blog/2018/11/mapped-europes-most-and-least-polluted-countries
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 I just released massive amounts of methane into the air after dinner.
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 @WAKIdesigns: In CO2 per country the maritime and flying industries are not counted you moron.
And I know the difference between those populations, cause I live there stupid!

You are a traitor of your own country, you piss over Poland from your Swedish luxury chair with all kind of morals. Get lost drug addicted moron!
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 @jozefk - do you understand the term air pollution? And even if Co2 emissions from flights were to be involved how the f*ck can Netherlands with 18mln people beat Poland with 40mln people, even if they were flying 10times a year to Australia and back?! are you that stupid?!
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 @WAKIdesigns: Maybe because we have one of the biggest harbours in the world and the biggest flight hub of Europe, smart ass Wink

Also civilians are not even close to producing the same amount as industry. You clearly have no freaking clue where you talk about right?
A taking off Boeing 747 uses the same amount of fuel as 1000.000 cargo trucks. There you go smarty! Oh and our government has decides to take in an extra 50k flights a year Wink
You have no clue, you are just a traitor of your home country and all your points are invalid, made from your ultra lefty luxury chair. In a country that is soon to be a extreme muslim state. Well done getting the second rank in rapes of the world btw Wink
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 @WAKIdesigns: Can your small brained head come around the fact that the 16 biggest ships pollute more then all the cars in the world? We have tens of thousands of ships in the seas.

And you think that the little pollution that wood, coal and gas fires of houses will pollute more then that?
You are really not so smart huh?

Have you ever thought about the Ruhr Area in Germany? Why the Rijn is the most plastic polluted river in the world? Why the air quality meters in The Hague are removed because they were always showing the most polluted air where the scale could get?
Man you are soooooo uneducated on topics where you want to have discussions. You think you can overrule a person with a big mouth, but in fact you have no real knowledge about the topics
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 @jozefk: with your logic Nassau or Panama are the biggest Sea polluters
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 @WAKIdesigns: again, clearly no knowledge about the topics.
Traiter of your own country, now being at the rich enemy and starting to throw rocks at your own people. Go be ashamed of yourself.

And your comparison is again BS Wink
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 @jozefk: Not saying I've done deep research on the subject but just a quick search brought me to this website regarding a research on the air quality in The Hague in 2016-2017:

www.denhaag.nl/nl/In-de-stad/Natuur-en-milieu/meten-haagse-luchtkwaliteit.htm

Unfortunately article and related reports are in Dutch, but from what I could see the air quality is good and improving. It seems to have been a huge research with a lot air quality meters so I can imagine they can't leave them installed permanently. They're probably owned by that research agency (Bureau Blauw) and they take them with them when they move on to their next job. That said, it seems like air quality is still being measured in some spots.

www.airqualitynow.org/comparing_home.php

Obviously this is quite short term (I haven't dug deeper in that website) but from what I can see it appears like the air quality in Amsterdam (near Schiphol airport), Rotterdam (near the harbour and which also has an international airport) and The Hague (the other city you mentioned) are quite acceptable. I can't find much about Krakow and Zakopane though.
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 @vinay: yeah funny, I live around the corner. You talk about something completely different. They did remove visible measurement equipment where the civilians could read it in the open. Years ago already. Why? It was always at it's maximum. For the rest, what our government is saying and what is the truth, well I can tell you, they lie easier ...

I never said our air is not acceptible. I said something different -> We pollute more (if you wanna call it like that cause I dont believe in CO2 pollution) then Poland. Cause WakuWaki said Poland was the biggest polluter in Europe and that people could not sport outside cause the air is too dirty.

He is talking none sense all the time!
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 @jozefk: Air polluter... and the reason for this air pollution is nothing more but “not giving a damn” attitude of individuals, pure stupidity of climate change denier government with absolute power given to them by these individuals (which is common for every single country on the list of European air polluters), all thanks to cheap prices of worst kind of coal and gas imported from Russia. Meanwhile your bike parts come with these Dutch ships so tone it down baby
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 @vinay: Also out government holds the pollution from planes and ships out of the calculations. Why? Well to look better ofcourse. We are in fact one of the biggest polluters !
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 @WAKIdesigns: yeah but in the meantime you are completely overthrown with your arguments.
Traitor of your nation!
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 @WAKIdesigns: Climate Change denier, how can you deny something that has always changed moron?
CO2 was 11x higher before and the earth was far greener. The earth is greening the last 30 years.

You start another stupid argument with not enough knowledge of the subject. It will be wise to pick a less educated victim for your BS arguments.

I am in no way saying that I am better, YOU are moron. I don't believe in the BS of air pollution by CO2 at all.
It is a pure hoax to get money out of the pockets of the civilians again and keep the poor countries poor. Otherwise, if the problem was really so big? Why are all the so called clean countries not putting all their money into the polluting countries to get them up to speed huh? Go figure dummy.
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 @WAKIdesigns: For the rest, we produce a few procent of all CO2 in the world. We really think that we are the reason of heating up? It is even under constant discussion if the world is even warming up at all!

Everywhere so called scientists of the green order are being caught with fraude. Remember the Hockey Stick?
The biggest scam in history is the green movement.
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 @jozefk: hahahah Big Grin for this comment you win nothing on efficient ways lf making our childrens future better, but you deserve a medal from Polish president. I congratulate you, for playing their tune.
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 @WAKIdesigns: yeah yeah, same like when you dont agree with the democrates, you are a Putin lover. Exactly the logic of an extreme lefty with green underwear. Shouldnt you go to USA to protest with Antifa there?
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 @jozefk: I don't believe in the BS of air pollution by CO2 at all.
It is a pure hoax to get money out of the pockets of the civilians

Holy f*ck!
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 @jonnyboy: yeah Jonnyboy, some truth hurts... in your lefty face.
Come with arguments please cause I blow you out of the water with facts Wink
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 @jozefk: facts straight from the petrochemical lobbying handbook?
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 @jonnyboy: yeah making someone look like a petrol fool makes your point right?
Facts baby, show me facts
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 thank God for all of these insightful posts, I was on one side of the argument, but after reading all of your thought provoking and original ideas I've had a change of heart.????????
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 @unrooted: but what was the argument? I really fail to see what was the original point. All I see is yet another angry Finnish guy telling everyone they have no idea about truth and facts without presenting any. I think we were talking about gun control and camelbacks. How big fanny do you need to fit Desert Eagle inside
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 @jozefk: erm..97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming
These highly educated scientists have all the facts and the ability to collect data from all kinds of sources that the public could never retrieve.
Anyone that doesn't recognise that there's a serious issues with human caused/human accelerated climate changed is either poorly educated, a schill, in the pocketbooks of the dino industries or government/lobbies, entirely selfish and unable to see beyond their own part of the world, or gullible as f*ck.
Which are you?
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 @jonnyboy: How many of those experts (actually some weren’t even geologists let alone atmospheric physicists) did that 97% figure come from?

73.

Does that sound like a global consensus? And the question wasn’t, are humans responsible for climate change, it was worded “some” (no specified amount) of climate change. What if the question was, do you think solar radiation/electromagnetism are the main drivers of the Earths climate, and they all said yes (which they would be dumb not to). Doesn’t sound quite so clear cut now does it?

Here’s a few more facts. There has been little to no warming in legacy, rural thermometer readings, in fact, in North America the 1930’s was by far the hottest decade on record. What happened was from the 2000’s onwards the IPCC didn’t like the fact that temperature readings were not increasing so they moved many rural thermometers to urban heat sinks to correlate with the prediction models. Here’s another, PPM Co2 in the Cretaceous period was over 1000, yet more species were alive than ever before or since. And since Co2 was so high, how did it get back to 260PPM in the Holocene? Ummm tricky that one.

And what about solutions? If humans are the main driver of climate change then by far the most obvious thing to do would be to limit birth rates as China did so successfully for a few decades. Unfortunately you can’t tax as many people and redistribute the wealth then can you?

I strongly suggest you do some research yourself and ignore the scientists at the IPCC who’s research funding depends on them promoting the obvious agenda.
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 @jclnv: whats the obvious agenda?
Who is profiteering from this climate change propaganda?
It is however clear who is profiting from the production, distribution and sales of the oil and gas industries products and those trying to discredit climate change?
Human population control.. they need to start in Squamish.. its really out of hand here Wink
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 @jonnyboy: Who is profiteering? Who’s being taxed and where is that money going?

The climate change industry is worth billions per annum. An industry invented out of nothing! The oil is going to be used regardless - plastics, aviation, etc. But now we have vast solar, wind, battery industries too. Many of which have legacy fossil fuel company investment.

It’s an absolute racket and the public has been railroaded. Look at the language being used, “climate denier” just like holocaust denier eh? It’s like a religion. As Feynnman said, if there is an unquestionable subject in science, it isn’t science.
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 @jclnv: I'm being taxed at the pump and fossil fuel subsidies were 5.7 trillion globally in 2017.
Seems reasonable to believe we cant continue to pollute at the current rate though surely.
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 @jonnyboy: It’s all a racket. Still, compared to banking, the energy sector is a pillar of ethics.

We’re going to pollute at current rates. China, Indonesia, India, etc are just getting going.

My feeling is a trace gas that’s essential to life on earth is insignificant compared to deforestation, toxic herbicides and micro plastics in marine environments. General ecosystem collapse. Climate change, be that the next ice age or global increase in temp, common in interglacial periods like the one we’re on now, may cull humans but we’ll leave the place a toxic wasteland.
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 @jonnyboy: if you say 97% agrees, you really never dug into the argument at all.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSrjAXK5pGw

Wow you are really so dumb. Just swallow what the MSM is telling you huh? ;')

My lady is doing her thesis on Climate Change and the BS behind it. 4 years of study and hard work. You cannot even grasp what lies you believe in.
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 @jonnyboy: USA is using 50% of all fossil fuels of the world. You focknobs are riding your V8 engines and paying per gallon, your perfect president DroneBama was having the most wars of any president in history, but still got the nobel price of peace, which he came to collect with his own warfleet in my country, the Netherlands.

If Co2 was the problem, then your whole country would stop. Even the fat people there produce too much CO2.

A few articles you wanna see:

From a really dumb man: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiKfWdXXfIs

A woman who already warned years ago about IPCC: youtu.be/U5weFQYBL5w

Growing ICE mass at the poles (NASA) www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Greening the earth (CO2) NASA: www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

I can go on all day, nooblets. You know nothing about facts. You know how to pick a fight only.
If you are to dumb to just follow the money, you are just another sheep. Good luck with that dummies.
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 @jozefk: no valid argument, just anger. You might want to get you brain checked and you might as well learn to read more than just the title of the nasa links you sent. You could also send the links about measurements of glacier size anywhere in the world but Yukon and Antarctica and show how they shrink. But it wouldn't make your point wouldn't it ?

Maybe pick a fight with a dead chicken next time, it's the only you can win.
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 @jozefk: I love it, so basically everything you wrote is something i can gladly sign under. 25%+ body fat, V8 diesel all that. Se can stop at V6 already. 99% would not take an average turn at typical Scandinavian 70 road at 120km/h.

Yet here were are arguing whether Poland is the biggest air polluter in Europe (its 4th, sorry, but levels are almost equal to the ones above, then it drops quickly) poles also fly a lot as you may have noticed... all that is irrelevant. Because we are in the same boat. Apart from flight shaming. I even started this stupid argument by saying that I hate green lefties distorting the image and making it worse for everybody.

PhD of your wife, well, calm
Down. My wife has PhD too and well I would not put too much attention to it. In most cases it’s like Master Thesis just a bit less infantile. It’s like me getting position of project manager, almost anybody can do it, you just move along man. It takes much more than PhD to talk about facts and truth, that’s all I am saying. With all due respect...
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 @zede: put up your middle finger and sit on it!

You have no argument at all, no evidence no in dept knowledge you show.
Just some meant to be funny words.

Clearly havent watched the vids also. Stupido Wink
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 @WAKIdesigns: your arguments are soooo stupid.
Poles fly a lot, from what money smart ass?

We as rich countries fly much more. Air pollution my ass, CO2 is no air pollution.
You havent watched the links I put here. It shows only how narrow minded you are. No evidence, no proof you put here but some hollow words.
You are a traitor of your home country, throwing rocks at them and only visiting your family 4 times a year.
You cannot compare your wife to mine cause they get a same degree, nice try! Their research neither. It shows only how your brain works, easy connections, no thinking.
You try to say something about the level of research of my wife does without any information at all.
Moron!
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 @jozefk: hahahaha, take a breather man. Read your comment again in 2 weeks. I was just reaching a hand to you, but your eyes are all blood. Hahahah
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 @WAKIdesigns: I dont need your hand Wink
Go back to Poland and help to build up your country, instead of hiding in a rich country and throwing rocks at your birth place.

Adios lefty bastardo!
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 @jozefk: read your own links.
The "stupid guy" in the YouTube video believed (1) that there is a global warming, (2) that it is caused by humans. Also (3) he does not know shit about climate science as he said himself, and his only criticism is about the the fact the toxic environment surrounding the debate prevents honest research on the topic. He only switched to a more "radical" point of view after he started to get paid by a lobby that negates climate change in 2014 (GWPF).

Again the big problem with people like you, if when they just read the headlines without trying to look deeper. Instead of playing with your middle finger, try opening a book about scientific theory and tell your gf that you don't write a thesis trying to prove something you deeply believe is true (because it has to fit your political view) , but you build an hypothesis based on existing facts and challenge it with experiments (even if the outcome is unpleasant).
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 @jozefk: .from your links:


Greening the earth (CO2) NASA: www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
"While rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can be beneficial for plants, it is also the chief culprit of climate change. The gas, which traps heat in Earth’s atmosphere, has been increasing since the industrial age due to the burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years. The impacts of climate change include global warming, rising sea levels, melting glaciers and sea ice as well as more severe weather events."

Growing ICE mass at the poles (NASA) www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses
“The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” Zwally said. “But this is also bad news. If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”
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 @jonnyboy - here's a dumb argument: I follow NASA and Space.com on social media. I have seen links to countless articles on climate change, read many, not a single one insinuated that everything is getting better or that "a couple of new studies suggest that humans are not causing average temeprature rise". I did however read a couple saying that human activity is warming up the planet, that ice sheets on Greenland or Alaska are melting but well... it is only some internets.
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 @zede: no smarty, he said something different. The devil is in the details. That we have influence, but it is completely unclear how much.
Even if you fart you have influence.

And that is how the 97% bogus started. They count all scientists who say we have influence, and kept out who did not answer. Now they make it like they all agree.

Btw, he is 93 years old, retired and does not need any of the bullshit money you talk about. It is also typical that mostly retired professors are sceptical to the green lobby leftards.
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 @jozefk: Please do not stop posting, reading this thread and watching you get destroyed over and over again has been a great source of entertainment. The minute you resorted to name calling it was clear you had run out of sound bites to parrot at anyone who would listen. How old are you? You do understand that name calling is reserved for children right?
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 @highfivenwhiteguy: #thefinger

Another yankee doodle whistling the leftard tone, I could not care less
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 Sorry Dude, ditching disposables is only a small part of the job that needs to be done. Also, much respect to the „drink water“ dudes, but leaving the world cup scene because you‘re worried about your carbon footprint, and then still continue to fly around the world to shoot videos (bryceland) is just bullshit.

Stop flying around, stop using suv‘s and pickup trucks (if the north american continent would have gas prices like in Europe, people would maybe start to think, yet they complain...), stop buying the latest plastic outfit every year just because, stop using carbon frames, bla bla bla....there is so much to do, but it will all fail to our need to consume.

I‘m working in the industry for 10 years, the way thinks are looking right now, we‘re all F....ed. And please, stop thinking bikes are Co2 neutral. They are not, riding them is, but thats it.
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flag JamesPBlaw (Aug 15, 2019 at 1:40) (Below Threshold)
 Well said. Even riding bikes isn't carbon-free. Where do the burritos come from that fuel your legs? This is a mute point and the industry should instead spend some money cleaning up the mess.
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flag powpowpow (Aug 15, 2019 at 2:12) (Below Threshold)
 Well said. And then, also never take any behavioural advices from North America.
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 @JamesPBlaw: I know a guy that actually makes mirrors out of old bike tires. Cool way to make use of something that is going to be thrown away
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 We’re definitely f*cked. Was reading an article titled “its raining plastic” and essentially trace plastic fibers are in the evaporated water and getting distributed by rain. Even in microscopically small amounts this should scare everyone. This could be worse than using gatorade on the crops.

Add to that its been 104-106 the last week here in houston.

Not sure how much hope we have. We are all distracted by being overworked, by instant gratification through mobile devices, by editorials pretending to be news, by facts no longer being true or false but opinions that are supposed to be all equal.

Looks like Humanity is in a pickle.

Shovel, bike, dirt, family, friends; all we really need. Here’s to going down in flames!
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 @Grosey: We could make change possible, but there need to be global rules. People want "Freedom" but it won't work without bans, period.

I feel you, I think it's been the warmest June and July in the history of recording weather data worldwide, people that say it's not real or human made are just idiots.

My daughter was born 1,5 years ago, I look into her eyes and really get a bad feeling about the future I will leave her.
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 For real. Rat boy just wanted to spend more time f*cking off and smoking pot instead of training (totally fine with me) but don’t like about your carbon footprint bullshit
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 @freeridejerk888: That is actually a 100% true statement and I agree with all of the above.
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 @JamesPBlaw: The pairing "mute point" has no canonized meaning in standard English.
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 I really take notice of @Bayonetwork comment "stop buying latest plastic outfit". First, tech cloths last a very long time and should be worn for a very long time. Second, thrift stores have plenty of great riding clothes for great prices, especially in a place like squamish or whistler. Third, simply purchasing less stuff is one of the greatest contributions an individual can make towards helping our planet and many of our bike industry companies apply social pressure to keep us buying. I try to resist the pressure to buy new outfits, buy used clothing, and enjoy the bike ride for what it is....a bike ride.
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 @freeridejerk888: would you have made that your parting statement from racing? I want to go get high and travel....

His exit was smart and he now has the life he wants. It's clear he is a granola dude anyways, so who cares if his lower carbon footprint argument is a little flawed. Probably makes more effort than most, and has had impact on others' lives...more than most of us can say.
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 Utter IPCC bullshit. The planet was 1200ppm Co2 and more species, and diversity of species, were alive than ever before. Toxicity from liquid and solid pollution, and deforestation are by far the biggest issues.
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 @jclnv: Yes, more co2 gives us more natural reafforestation. The most do not know that co2 is good for the plants and what the difference between a C3 or C4 plant is. If we have to less co2 in the atmosphere we would get real problems. The more co2 the greener the planet.

The same is for temperature. (There is a correlation between shrinking and growing population.) If it is cold it is not so easy to survive than in conditions with more sun hours.

I think for the IPCC is public relation more important than research. They are a political organisation.
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 @fossydh: Be careful there fella, you’re going heavily against the group think propaganda with those facts.

Next you’ll be saying that in the mid 1930’s the US was hotter than it ever has been and thousands died from heat exhaustion. Or that the IPCC has systematically been moving rural thermometers to urban heat sinks in recent decades for readings to correlate with their useless model predictions...
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 @jclnv: Yes, and the best is that the IPCC (and others) expose themselves with their contradictory allegations.
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 Carbondioxide is a greenhouse gas. Water in the higher atmosphere (through aviation) and methane gas (through farming) are much bigger contributors. So the recommendation to fly less isn't just to reduce the emission of carbondioxide, nor is the recommendation to eat less (or no) meat.

That said, don't pull this article out of context. It wasn't about the greenhouse effect. It is about reducing waste. And instead of powerlessly point at others, look at what you can do yourself. Cut back on disposables.

As for clothing, it is the washing of synthetic clothes that flushes small synthetic fibers into the sea and contributes to the plastic soup. If you don't want that, wear clothes made of natural fiber. Wool, hemp, bamboo, cotton... The options are right there. It is up to us the consumers to buy the right stuff and eventually the industry will step up and give us more options.
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 @downhilldj127: My English isn't normally standardized after 10 hazy IPA's so I guess it's okay that my pinkbike spam isn't either haha
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 @JamesPBlaw: I'd be just like Elvis in his final moments after 10 hazy IPAs. Props.
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 Did ya'll know that avoiding meat and dairy is the ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth?
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 Doubt that! Being vegan for a year is offset by a single flight from London to Frankfurt. Yes, it all adds up and I am all for reducing meat consumption, but please stay realistic. We have to reduce on every front.
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 @mitochris: I'd say @ben88BC is being pretty realistic. The meat industry is a huge problem if you look at the whole process from de-forestation / cattle feed all the way to your plate. But I agree with you too that we need to reduce on every front, flights included.
Ps. A collegue just mentioned going to Antarctica on holiday and I nearly had a fit! Escaped to Pinkbike for a sec Wink
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 Killing your self IS the 'single BIGGEST way' to avoid you impact on Earth..........
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flag b45her (Aug 15, 2019 at 2:10) (Below Threshold)
 did you know that if humans didn;t breed livestock, ever 90% of mammal life wouldn't be here. do all our animal loving vegan friends like the thought of wiping out 90ish% of of mammal life to err. . . protect them.
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 @mitochris: This statement is from a University of Oxford study if you wan to take a look at it:
www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-06-01-new-estimates-environmental-cost-food

I believe that the flying issue only takes into account co2 production but a plant based diet also accounts for decreased water use, land use, deforestation and soil pollution. Absolutely we need to do more than just eating plant based diets but it is currently believed to be the biggest change an individual can make.
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 @mitochris: I would need to check that, sounds rather impossible considering how many things get into producing one kg of red meat. I remember some teacher at environmental studies at Gothenburg University saying that 1kg of beef uses as much energy as 25kg of chicken.
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flag b45her (Aug 15, 2019 at 2:25) (Below Threshold)
 @jerwin413: do they not use water and land to grow crops then? or fuel to fly them all over the planet , or run huge chemical plants making pesticides and fertilisers. can you imagine the amount of farming that would have to occur to feed the entire human race if no one ate meat? the calorie density of plants is next to nothing, we would spend all day eating and trying to shit.
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 @WAKIdesigns: Isn't there somethig as well like it takes three time the land to grow the veg to meat protien ratio or something? An that's including land to produce the animal feed
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 @b45her: a cow eats more of all that you described than you. And then after that, it has to be transformed the into meat and delivered to you. That is how it works. Then people eat much more meat than they need. Then they eat meat that could easily be replaced with vegetable based products. Like burgers. There's such a coctail of spices and dressings in a burger (which in most cases is made from really crappy animal biomass) , that you would never tell whether you are eating a meat burger or a vegan burger. There are vegetable based protein supplements that with enough taste making shennenigans are perfectly drinkable/ edible, and even if we were to use whey protein, it is still more "eco" than the steak. Then meat, beef and pork in particular is often eaten in a rather unhealthy form (like highly processed meat) or with side dishes like processed carbs which does more harm than good to you. While all the balanced online sources I read tell me vegan diet is incomplete and may lead to sickness, meat is far from having all the bells and whistles covered. I just mean... it's not so simple and it is futile to find the ultimate solution.
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 @b45her: you also have to consider the amount of energy (plants) required to make that kg of meat. Our bodies are not 100% efficient, so you will loose a lot of calories that will not go into a cow’s meat. Our energy system (carbohydrates transformed to usable energy in the body) is below 40%.
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 Pretty sure the single biggest way to reduce your impact on the Earth is to kill yourself.
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 @b45her: better they die out than continue living in slavery
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 @b45her: Increased fibre means shitting should be easier! Most of your carbohydrates in your diet come from plants already - potatoes, pasta and bread (wheat), etc., and that's where most of your calories come from - that and fats/oils. As for the farming, well all the land is being used to feed the cattle. I'm not vegetarian/vegan, but the fact is that to generate protein, which is really what your meat provides, gram for gram plant based protein requires less resources (space, water etc). Pesticides and fertilisers is a fair point, but those can be eliminated (and are used to provide feed for cattle anyway). Problem is, bacon smells so good, and don't get me started on saussies...
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 @boydasilva: don't be so dramatic. Just sterilize everybody. No humans by 2200. One thing though... what if chimps evolve into something even worse than us?
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 @ben88BC thats not true the biggest way to reduce your impact is taking one less flight a year
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 @jerwin413: @wakidesigns:

I completely agree that the meat industry is a massive problem, and we need to change and avoiding meat and dairy products is a good way. But regarding impact, we can’t compare Brazilian-rainforest-destroying-long-distance-transport meat to meat from your local farmer. Just as we can’t compare the CO2 impact of local spuds to avocados.
All I am saying, become a vegan is not going to save us on its own.
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flag b45her (Aug 15, 2019 at 3:13) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: i have never eaten a veggie burger let alone a vegan burger that tastes even remotely like meat, my partner is pretty much a veggie (no moral evangelising she just doesn't like the taste very much) so i've tried most. do the maths still work out if everyone eats nothing but veggies, where do all the meat based proteins we need come from? humans are omnivores we need meat and animal products to survive we cant live on just grass and twigs like the veganazis would have you believe, most of those natural living folk smash more pills down their neck than a prodigy concert.

i have no issues with veggies btw that seems quite logical to me on moral grounds.
vegan on the other hand are moronic, what is the difference in picking an apple or milking a cow? its both a natural product that doesn't harm the production device (tree/Cow)
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 @b45her: I did. Ones in Swedish Max are barely distinguishable and then they have one that I was just 100% convinced was chicken in mexican spices. Turned out to be Oomph “pulled pork”. I’m not vegan and eat meat almost everyday mind you.
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 @jerwin413: thanks. I hadn’t seen this one yet. I will read it more in detail later. I do think though the deforestation, transport, etc can’t be compared directly with “vegetables”, as an avocado for example has a much higher impact than a potato grown locally. But I agree, we need to become much more ware and make drastic changes.
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 @bikemongmatt: I do hope this is sarcasm, because I very much doubt every one on the planet flys even once a year. I personally haven’t been on a plane in three years.

I have had a dinner that was nothing but meat, many times over the past few years. I think not flying is easier for me to accomplish, but won’t have anywhere near the impact as me cutting back on meat intake.
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 @mitochris: I read quite a bit on flying lately and at least in Sweden it seems to be blown out of proportion. I have a friend traveling a lot for work and she says that going to undeveloped countries would open peoples eyes a bit. We sit in our little Scandinavian bubble of high profile lifestyle of quite a few people with huge portions of land around us and come up with some silly concepts that barely work anywhere else
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 @mitochris: just imagine: average Swede flies 6 times a year. Go to a big city and stand on the bridge over a highway leading to the city center. Be there at the rush hour. Yes. One Flight may equal 10 car journeys of equal length. yes... Except there are 600 10-50km car journeys per year in start/stop traffic for quite a big piece of population... it just does not add up. I really look down on flight shaming folks... especially that I don't hear them advocating for building up railroad infrastructure. Sweden has railroad system of Poland from 80s. Until someone gets their finger out of their arse and gives me a train that gets to Hamburg in 2-3 hours, I am not skipping flights.
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 It's true!

I also talked to a girl a couple months ago, she did studys about "What would really be asustainable way of eating" (sorry for my english) and it showed we don't even have to be vegan if we can't live without, I think it was:

- 4 Days a week Vegan
- 1 Day Meat
- 1 Day Fish
- 1 Day Eggs

We've grown up to have everything available all the time anytime anywhere, just look how crazy cheap meat is in germany?? Even in the US Dairy and Meat are more expensive, it's pathetic!
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 @WAKIdesigns: I agree with you (and I didn’t vote you down). But I repeat myself. All aspects of our lives need to be addressed. Is it necessary to have annual trips to Thailand? Weekend shopping in NewYork? I know people that do this. I do not own a car but live next to an entry point into Stockholm and I am always shocked about the traffic, even on sundays.
And yes, Sweden needs to invest drastically into its rail system. Sometimes it is great, like Stockholm-Gothenburg is rather fast now, but I was going to go to Umeå the other day and it would have been over 6h.
But in Sweden at least rail usage has gone up and flights down, which is good and hopefully we will invest more into rail.
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 @b45her: You can get all essential aminoacids from pea+rice protein. Only thing you need to supplement is B12.

Milking a cow wouldn't harm the cow only if the cow were your own and you were caring for it well, as soon as money and mass production gets involved, the abuse comes out real quick.

Also in order to make the cow produce milk, you have to inseminate it, have it give birth and do something about the calf, since you can't have it drinking that milk (they usually get killed).
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 @Pedro404: yes! Thank you, it is easy to live vegan and fulfil your bodies nutritional requirements (bar b12 because of modern agricultural methods, so it needs to be supplemented).

It's bad enough we kill animals and keep them in generally terrible conditions ...But to force them to breed for continued killing and raping (milk) is another level of nastiness

And to those who say that veggie burgers taste terrible.. They're mostly right. But with enough demand, science can make anything taste like anything so there will eventually be decent meat and dairy alternatives

Sorry for rant but the guy who said getting milk from a tree is only as damaging as picking an apple off a tree is misinformed
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 @Pedro404: Well animal abuse, huh. The thing is big scale farming/agriculture, shopping malls will always be more efficient than plenty of small actors doing stuff on their own. Even ordering food home is better, since it is one car driving around on a efficient scheme, rather than lots of people back and forth to the shop. Reasonable online shopping for stuff that you actually need? Better than going to a shop.
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 Absolutely agree
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 @WAKIdesigns: I'm not sure what your point is? I'm not debating the efficiency of factory farming, but the ethics of it.
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 @mitochris: Not sure why you're being down voted. Flying less is by far the easiest and most impactful way to cut carbon for people who fly. Sure going vegan is great, but skipping the trip to Whistler will make a bigger impact.
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 @Pedro404: heh my point is that ethics are not so simple. "Personal farming" would not be ethical from ecological point of view since it would be very inefficient. To me farm animals are like plants and I am not the only one seeing it this way. For instance I find having a pet at home to be unethical. I mean i don't care, won't judge anyone much but I still feel sorry for the poor being. If someone make artificial meat that is more efficient to make and it saves the cow? Yeah, sign me up. I still cannot imagine how can someone eat a "industrial" burger and find "veggie" burger as not as good. Come on. Meat at most burger places tastes like crap. It's an animal biomass, not meat. Don't kid yourself people.
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 @WAKIdesigns: But I never said that personal farming was an ethical solution. I don't think we should be using animal products at all.
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 @WAKIdesigns: there is not a single micro nutrient you cant get from an animal source, including vitamin C, however there is many you can not get from plants, especially taking into account bioavailability and the fact that fat solubable vitamins from plants must be converted into the mammalian form at the cellular level which is based on genetics, for example, over 60% of the population lacks the genetics to convert vitamin K from plants into K2, the same is true for omega 3 conversion from ala to epa and dha. Humans dont have multiple stomachs and a colon the size of a football like gorillas and cows, let alone spending over 80% of life eating and consuming 40 to 60 lbs of veg a day
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 @b45her:
Mate, really, give this a read, no offense but some facts you need to get straight here:
www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth
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 @Y12Sentinel: I am not saying you are wrong, but considering low bioavailability of meats only 1000 years ago, and how hunters and gatherers were capable of performing a successful hunt despite high potential of malnutrition, I doubt eating meat on daily basis makes any sense. Just because body builders or power lifters require 2g of protein per 1kg of body weight, I seriously doubt 99% of folks do. I am far from advocating stereotypical triathlete diet consisting of oils, nuts and kale, but when I look at plates in countries like Poland, it’s rather silly. At this point almost 30% of the Earths Population is malnutritioned and 30% overstuffs themselves with energy heavy foods. And meat is only a part of it. Sodas? Alcoholic beverages? Sweets, snacks? All the highly processed food? All this is energy heavy and quite unnecessary. Honestly if someone told me today. Beer, bacon and french fries are gone forever, I would not be able to care less.
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 @WAKIdesigns: bioavailability refers to how much of a substance is absorbed and enters the bloodstream, in this case nutrition.
Humans only need enough protein to maintain a positive nitrogen balance. The higher bioavailability of animal proteins means we don’t have to consume near as much (grams) to maintain a positive nitrogen balance, compared to plant based proteins. Also there is more essential and nonessential micronutrients within the animal products which means a huge advantage per gram of food. Less in, more used, more nutritious, and less waste. Also in regards to bodybuilders and power lifters, they are typically on the sauce, ped users actually need less protein relative to their body mass than a natural athlete. They over consume just because bro science from the 90’s won’t die.
  • 24 1
 Aaawww @freakonomics why did you have to state the obvious, bruv? Let's face it, our beloved activity produces a shitload of waste and carbon footprint stompin' items.
The thing to do is reject the superfluous things and focus on essential things. I have 3 bikes, 2 numerous helmets, a drawer full of gloves and kneepads and so on.
@remimetallier is a legend for putting this concept forth because it plants a seed, which hopefully grows into a movement ( look at those Drink Water boys for instance), and then, just maybe, the industry starts to provide sustainable alternatives
Shit- let's do this for the groms who might not even be born but deserve the eternal beauty of ripping trail just like we get to now.. .
  • 2 0
 Just thinking outloud, but couldn't someone just make a 'pull off' that's really part of the goggle strap so you just rotate the lens to a clean section? Guessing most people don't use more than 2 or 3 on a given run.
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 @Klainmeister: they make biodegradable ones
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 Good message! Thanks!! I was just thinking about why I love mountain biking so much....It is the connection with nature I get. It all adds up if we change small habits to protect nature. Im down.
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 Someones gotta mention the massive pickup truck, non?!

Ditching that would sure improve your green credentials Remy and I’d definitely be interested to hear if you can make a greener alternative work with your lifestyle. If you could ditch the truck the rest of us weekend warriors would have no excuse.
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 Agree. You don't need 500 bhp to get your bike at the trailhead
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 Massive? That's the smallest truck you cant get in North America. Tacoma's are not massive by any means....
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 @pakleni: 2018-19 tacoma has 159-278 horsepower not 500. your'e thinking of American trucks like chevy, ford, or dodge which are indeed overpowered for bike shuttling
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 @stormpeakmenace: Idk. I live in Ch. Half the people I know here doesn't even have a car.
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 @adventuresbycole: I get that it’s not the biggest truck going.

My point is that 20mpg is still a lot of fuel to burn. Even switching to an SUV, or better a station wagon, with a rack could halve the fuel use. It seems to me that saving a gallon or two a day of fuel burnt would be worth it.

The issue unfortunately is that Camelbak can sponsor a video encouraging people to buy their multi use bottles, but no one wants to sponsor a video saying:

“hey: drive less, drive a smaller car, change you car less often, change your bike less often, buy less stuff”
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 @pakleni: Ya its the unfortunate side of north America, there is very little public transit in comparison to Europe/ Asia so owning a car is very common. i certainly wish it was not that way though.
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 Creating this video will have way more positive consequences... I don't care too much if he's driving a truck like everyone else does.. he could improve on it but that doesn't hide the fact that he's doing the right thing by posting this video!
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 @Altron: that last bit is so true. Consumption based economies are the driver for this.
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 @Altron: can't argue that, if only our government would allow more diesel vehicles...
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 @adventuresbycole: Diesel vehicles are going away even in Europe. In favour of electric ones.
Some very important brands like Volvo are dropping diesel altogether.

If you really want to make a change, you have to change your daily routine. Public transport and e-bikes are the way to go, imo.
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 @pakleni: Electric is definitely the next generation no doubt there, but at this time in the US there are hardly any affordable electric vehicles, (under $20K). There are a few but they are few and far between. Hopefully as the bigger manufactures get more invested in EV prices will come down and there will be a used market.

Public transportation in the area I live (suburb of Seattle) is utterly atrocious. There is loads of improvement that needs to be made but is being greatly held back by big oil. So much is fighting against us.

Like you said the best thing we can all do is change out habits and plan around being more environmentally friendly. What I think this video did a good job of showing is that you can take small steps to push change, everyones small contribution adds up over time.
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 Better than doing nothing but still, you can recycle like 20 years and that saves as much co2 as one flight.

www.dw.com/en/to-fly-or-not-to-fly-the-environmental-cost-of-air-travel/a-42090155
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 I was just thinking the same thing about the travelling. Recycling just makes you feel like you're doing something without doing too much...
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 I get the part where it feels like it doesnt matter all that much. And yes its true. Lemme start with saying i dont like to tell others what to do. That is the wrong strategy.

You see here in Holland we have some trails (There are hills. but theyre hard to find lol ). theyre no alpine routes by any stretch of the imagination but a lot of em are just fun to ride. When ridin i cant help to question when i see another energy bar packaging lying in the forest how that came to be. I mean that same packaging wasnt in the way when the energy bar was still inside. but all of a sudden it doesnt go back in the same pocket it came out of. (I forgive losing bottles. that just happens with bottle cages sometimes). Its that mentality mister Metailler is after. That i dont drop my shit where i stand mentality. Its just a small start. You can start an avalanche with just one snowball.

Same goes with everything disposable. If you can do with a more sustainable alternative why not. It should be within reason ofcourse. But do this for yourself. For me? It all starts with how much trouble it is. A good start is to throw your waste in the correct bins. If i dont have to i dont use disposable stuff. Only if there is no good alternative. i dont make this a religion of some sort. One church is a handfull allready if im honest. Just enjoy doing it. That is all.
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 And how much CH4 & CO2 does it save the planet if every person produced one less child?
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 I'm a cynic on most things and I know its easy to roll your eyes and knock his message when you think about the waste in our sport, but someone has to be the first to stand up and say something.
I'd hope that he stays with it, that it's not just news of the day soon to be forgotten and in some small part may generate some momentum and lead towards less packaging (see GoPro as a main offender), different tear-off materials etc
One UK mag has recently changed from the usual plastic packaging used for subscription mags sent in the post, to something similar made from potato starch after people raising the issue on their forum.
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 The absolute bottom line: consume less.

Or we could sit around waiting for an eco-warrior on a white horse to save the planet whilst we burn through another busy day being good little 'consumers'. An easy strategy, albeit incumbent with higher levels of risk.

If you are serious about making changes, try these www.bbc.com/future/story/20181102-what-can-i-do-about-climate-change.

So, join me; buy less, a lot less, because the psychologists can tell you it doesn't make you happier. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_behaviour). I have found no reduction in the width of my smile since I removed myself from trying to keep up with the latest and greatest. I really do genuinely recommend it.

You are always welcome to join me in not buying that new bike. Let's go riding on what we have. We shall have a blast!
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 In this instance, single use plastic and global warming are two separate issues.

Whilst both issues need to be resolved, maybe if we can collectively solve/mitigate to some extent one of the many seemingly insurmountable challenges in the world today it could give us the impetus to solve/mitigate to some extent the others.

Stopping single use plastics won't prevent the ecological disaster that is anthropogenic climate change. It will, however, help to mitigate the ecological disaster that is plastic waste.
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 Solid answer. Should be nearer the top.
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 While a pickup truck is more wasteful than a plastic cup and a lot of people don't truly need a truck I just like to remind you that every little bit helps. Here's an analogy:

One ant is quite insignificant - all ants collectively amount for 20% of the animal biomass on the planet.
(source: besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1365-2656.12251)

It may be the case that cups and straws outweigh pickup trucks on a global scale.
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 wow.... mountain biking is one of the most disposable industries and pastimes out there when it comes to churning through formats, components etc etc......i would just like a company to actually make spare parts for wear components of say disc brakes so that the brakes last longer than six months.. as everytime i have to buy something anyway I could make a cubby house with the amount of packaging etc that I have to throw out.. so maybe this rose coloured glasses sponsored sponge could actually get some of his sponsors to reduce their waste that they send to people , actually make and sell minimally packaged spares so components can actually last a few years......
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 Or use Hope components for everything
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 @alexhyland: THIS! I have hope Hubs an brakes from 2007, 2011 still as good as the day I bought them
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 @nojzilla: thats cos hope stuff hasn;t changed since then lol.
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 @b45her: well, if it ain't broke...........
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 Pretty obvious what he´s saying (at least for us in Scandinavia). But as a professional athlete he can make a bigger impact by inspiring others. I´d add this for MTB:ers: use only organic oils on your bike (works perfect for me at least), wash your bike only with water and don´t buy a new every season;-)
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 Literally also just filmed a video about his garage where he has 100+ tires on his wall.... I really respect Remy as a rider and I get what he is trying to do but at the end of the day this seems like more of a “look at me” move than an actual act of caring. If you want to reduce your carbon footprint as a mountain biker, the best thing you can do is build your local riding scene up so that you and the communities around you spend less fuel traveling all the time. You can also ride the same bike for more than 1 year at a time and focus on getting the most out of each product, like tires, before ditching them. The environmental conversation is such a complicated one because we all contribute to the problem no matter how much you care. At the end of the day we all need to start taking steps to making things more efficient but we need to be honest with ourselves first about the role our hobbies play.
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 Better yet, vote for the environmental candidate instead of the coal candidate. Support the NRDC who sues the gov when they try and roll back pollution controls. You and your buddies not taking a 2hr drive next saturday is nothing compared to raising the gas tax by $0.10. Sure, one pro MTBr isn't going to do much if we just consider the MTB world but if it helps nudge a generation towards prioritizing our environment, we can save our kids a huge amount of trouble.
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 @Sardine: Without coal, you wouldn't have an internet to type your comment into, and you wouldn't have a bike to ride either. Fairy dust and good feels don't keep the lights on.
  • 4 0
 Here is what I am hearing in half the comments...

Smoker: "You really shouldn't smoke it's bad for you and the planet".

PB Commenter: "Everything you say is invalid, you're a smoker. Maybe if you were Mahatma Gandhi you could persuade me."

Mahatma Gandhi: "Don't smoke, it's bad for you."

PB Commenter: "Your views are too extreme for me, your argument is invalid."
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 Wow, lots of positive replies, but also some negative comments from a few Internet warriors. Let me clarify something: Until we stop consuming, traveling or driving we will always leave an impact on the planet. That's how it is unfortunately. We all need to work though and to make money. True I could get a more green job, like most of us. The point of this video though is to open your eyes on the little stuff that everyone can do to limit the impact we create.

Here are a few examples:
- ditch disposables
- ride share, pedal to the trail head, work, grocery stores..
- buy local
- buy products made of recycled materials as much as possible
- eat much less animal products / go vegan

Plenty we can all do. Most of those don't cost more, create social opportunities and are healthier.

They are 1000 problems in the world. We can't fix all of them, but at least we can try to sort out some.

Think twice before being negative about such an important topic.

Peace out Internet.
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 Thank you Remy to open the debate!

Small things matters!

We all have an impact on our environnement

We all have the power to have a positive impact

Its all start by small things like reuse, reduce, recycle

Do your best to buy local.

Bike industry (like many other industry) is based on consumerism and have a lot to do to improve their carbon footprint.
Can we have one standard !?! Like it sucks I must throw my derailleur to garbage cause i cant find the little part broken from my 2 year old derailleur and non compatible with a new one...

Hopefully, its greener to ride a bicycle than a motocross!

Are you ready to change your habits for the future of next generation?
So your kids or little kids can enjoy to do mountain bike too!?

Did you try to reduce your meat consumption ?

Did you know that every animal produce is link to deadly diseases?

Did you know you will never miss of any nutrients going vegan?

Im vegan since 4 years, just broke one of my toes during dh race. Never stop biking and working(I'm carpenter).
Doctors was shocked how fast I recover. No sign of fracture after 1 month. Last year, broke my collarbone on a bad big crash. 6 weeks after back on enduro racing.

Just saying every choice matter. And maybe plant diet will help you recover faster or live longer!

Start small, go big, have fun on your bike guys!
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 I've definetly lost more water bottles off my bike out in the woods than disposable paper or plastic items. #WaterBottleMountsKillsThePlanet (and it's obviously pinkbikes fault)
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 such a good dude. using his influence wisely to do something good. legend!
  • 5 2
 so one day PB is flying people in a helicopter and gets negative comments for that and the other there is an article promoting eco-awareness. I guess it shows the contradictions of this sport.
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 The bike industry could also step up and really focus on reduced packaging waste in its products. I wonder if Remy is talking to his sponsors about that?
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 I believe what Remy is advocating is a good thing we should all try and use less disposables, whats wrong with that !

But a lot of this could of been halted quite a few years back to a certain extent as there have been some good biodegradable plastics developed to replace the everyday ones we just casually use and dispose of.

The problem is money though isn't it ! And who makes the most profit out of it. why would they give that up, after all plastics are refined from crude oil, that's a large loss of profit to the oil companies/refiners/shareholders and even governments in taxes if we ain't using it.

It costs money to develop products, such as biodegradable plastics, and then to start changing the way we package every thing to use them, who's gonna want to fund that development when there all making healthy profits

The ones with all the money who have it want more of it, no matter what the cost.
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 It’s easy to jump down this guys throat, and point out various issues. But his message starts conversation, and is positive. Can’t knock that!

It’s no secret, things need to change. I don’t have the answers, but try to do my part in my daily life.

Bravo to anyone using their platform for a positive cause
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 You mean like carbon frames?
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 tear offs
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 Bike industry produces small amount of carbon waste compare to airplane industry, I gues less than 5%. Maybe 1% because u got automotive industry, maritime industry, metallurgy industry, plastics processing industry. Recycling carbon fibre is possible but no one want to do it because its not enough waste compare to aluminium waste for example. Another thing is carbon fibre waste from bike industry cant be use in airplane industry. The predictions for 2020 is 30 000t of carbon waste, all production is about 135 000 t, to compare with aluminium the request is for 24 800 000t for a year , how much is 30 000t of carbon? Is 652 * BOEING 787. If you dig in to the topic u will see difference between carbon fiber/layer factories and carbon fiber recycle laboratories. They look like bigger student experiment, no like something done for big scale. There is hope becuase some big heads working on buiilding some space ship from recycled carbon fibre.
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 Yeah and all alu frames in the world get recycled straight into Polar Bears. As I write this there are thousand of cars with aluminium bikes on the racks attached to them, being driven either to or from riding destination. Blowing up the issue of carbon frame production to the level of a deciding factor in how cycling impacts the environment is a rather ignorant thing to do. It’s a drop in the sea, a splinter... wait
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 @WAKIdesigns: Ja wiem, że jesteś królem trollingu ale nie czaje o co Ci chodzi. Gdzie napisałem, że alu jest dobre, a carbon zł. Nie lekceważę tego, że przemysł rowerowy ma wpływ na środowisko, wręcz odwrotnie, odpadów z produkcji karbonowych ram czy elementów nie da się wykorzystać w innych przemysłach.
Napisałem to jako ciekawostkę. Nie jest to brane pod uwagę, bo odpadku jest za mało.
Dodatkowo odpad to nie wszystko, wydzielone ciepło, transport, paliwo. Rzadko coś komentuje, a jak coś już napiszę to zawsze się dowalisz, zrobisz swoją interpretację i włożysz w moje usta jakieś wnioski z czapy. Podobnie było z jakimś artykułem o treningu.
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 @Zeeober: erm... it was the answer to @freakonomics
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 @WAKIdesigns: I catch up a minute after I wrote a comment. Sorry then and I agree with you Razz
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 @Zeeober: I also agree with you, let's throw a used minion around us and hug.
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 @WAKIdesigns: I feel stupid right now. haha ok, but some day beer is on me.
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 @Zeeober: don't feel stupid. I'm stupid. 18 year old girl beat me on Strava on Cygan in Bielsko.
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 @WAKIdesigns: Thats why I don't have Strava account Big Grin
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 well at least I don’t bin my tires after a race....
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 Excellent, thanks Remy! So good to hear this kind of message, everything we do to reduce waste and consumption helps. The more you do the more you want to do I find. Reduce, re-use, recycle... Sure biking is another form of consumption, but its your whole footprint that matters and all reductions count.
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 Wash and reuse your condoms guys.
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 Her: Are you going to wear a rubber?
Me: Sorry but I am taking a principled stand against all single use disposables.
Her: 3rd guy I’ve heard that one from this week.
Me: ????
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 @loudv8noises: upvoted cos I chuckled... tup
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 It's like riding a bike... You start doing small things and as you get more comfortable doing that and start progressing eventually you're an absolute shredder and have replaced your car with an ebike. We'll something like that anyways.
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 If there is anything bike industry can do in that particular matter is to reduce packaging. The size of boxes and complexity of packaging that small components are coming in is just ridiculous. In the age of online shopping you could cut yourselves some slack an dpack everything into simple biodegreadable/ recyclable bags. Customers have to be smarter too and not judge the product by the packaging.
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 Came here for the comments and it was everything I expected. People reflexively against it because they feel challenged. A bunch of white knights tripping over each other to show who cares about the planet more. A dig against cheap gas prices in America. Personally, I’m hoping Elon takes me to Mars with him and I can trade one set of a-holes for another.
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 Why is environmentalism so carbon focused? Looking at the numbers, nitrous oxide is far more impactful, warming the atmosphere 298 times more than co2, pound for pound. Even at only six percent of US emissions, that translates to over twenty times more warming vs co2, over a hundred year span. Over the next thirty years, that equates to 600 years worth of co2. Considering the percentage of co2 emissions coming from the US vs the rest of the world, reducing net co2 emissions in the US to zero, while impossible, would only move the needle by a percentage point or two. Co2 is a 1000/10,000 year problem. If the glaciers are melting and the earth is significantly warming right now, the numbers seem to emphatically suggest that nitrous oxide and other gasses are the primary cause, not co2. What am I missing?
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 I’ve seem trails littered with energy bar wrappers, leftover isotonic drink bottles and....heavens forbid....even cigarette butts. In my honest opinion, these make a more immediate impact on the environment. Where I come from, part of the bike trails run through a portion of natural forested areas. Animals passing through might even mistake these for food. Yrs we can argue all day about carbon vs aluminum vs steel vs titanium but if we can have proper trail etiquettes, then forget about it....
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 Thanks for putting this out there. Sure, drinking straws and plastic bags are a minor part of the microplastic and ocean garbage problem but they are something a lot of people use everyday. Which means you might think about it every day. I've certainly come to notice how much trash I generate and my impact in general. Its also what I think about when I vote...where a policy change like putting a coal baron in charge of the EPA can negate the positive impact of every MTBr never driving or flying anywhere ever again....OR...relatively small subsidies can help reduce the cost of solar power by over 80%. I like my trails so I choose the latter.
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 This dude should stop using tires like they are disposables. I saw his garage in a video one time. He literally had hundreds of tires hanging on the wall.
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 Yes I do. That's cause I'm a pro and that's my job. Outside of that I do plenty for the planet. You can work in an oil industry but at the same time do what you can at home to help reduce your impact.
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 Hey Pinkbike! Can you please have more articles like this? As a bike community we need as many opportunities to talk about environmental issues as possible to create understanding and action. Thanks.
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 Pinkbike Comments: BOOOOOOOOOOO you're a hypocrite, you should use an old bike and never use carbon or drive a car!!! I only ride steel from the 90's because I love earth so much

Also Pinkbike Comments: FREE BIKE GIVEAWAY...SIGN ME UP I WANT A NEW BIKE PLS!!!!!
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 I urge you to stop being a hypocrite.. I urge you to stop riding plastic bikes full of toxic resins that aren't recyclable.. I urge you to stop throwing your tires away after one race.. I urge you to take Rail or Drive to your next event instead of flying... I urge you to stop being a self-righteous dooche judging people for drinking out of plastic bottles.. I get it, you have good intentions.
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 I think the biggest difference to make is go to the source. The companies that pollute and profit the most, like Coco cola Pepi Nestle . Hold those people within accountable. They obviously don't give a Sh8t about the planet.
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 Thank you so much Remy for making a point to make this point. I always think of it this way: REFUSE, Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. You can say "no" to single-use plastics, even if it takes an awkward conversation with a cashier.
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 I remember one of my previous post deleted because critisizing guys going up a mountain with an helicopter just to enjoy a nice downhill... seriously? Maybe this post better fits here?
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 Stop taking the plane to everywhere first lol
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 Yes! I’ve kept my camelbak mule so long it’s going to become trendy again!
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 This video is mostly about scrub, fast riding and using reusable plastic. If it is all it takes...
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 Use the back button as much as possible.

If a comment has more than ten up/downvotes, think twice about clicking.

Recategorize 'Soylent Green' as a romantic drama.
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 Remy, how many tires do you go through in a season? Are you a vegan?
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 Commendable move *and* let’s keep in mind that toting around water in a spendy container (itself future landfill) can be some frivolous first-world nonsense.
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 Ditching the disposables is important but make sure you dont forget to get the new colorway of camelbak even though your old one work fine
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 It's cool to know that Remy and I have the same kitchen sink faucet But for real, good shit man. Behind the message all the way
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 Thank you Remy! more people need to think about their waste. we can all make a difference
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 Remy uses an oval ring?!?
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 Serious question: energy food with recyclable wrappers? Clif and other foil wrapped food is landfill only.
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 Can't wait for the moment when there are more carbon framaes swimming in the Ocean than plastic cups
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 Those scrubs though! ????
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 Plant billions of trees is literally the solution to all of this . lol
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 I hope he is not using tare offs
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 @vtbert: What claims are you referring to?
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 I keep reusing my TRUMP straw lol...
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 What a pile of self righteous horseshit from Remy and Camelbak.
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 Good Shit Remy. Smile
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 Virtue signaling is so in right now.
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