Video: Setting Up the New Fox 36 Fork with Jordi Cortes

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TheLittleFox (Apr 11, 2020 at 2:46)

120 ish rear travel and a coil shock on the Tallboy, forget the fork, we need more Info !!!

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JesusJohn (Apr 11, 2020 at 4:47)

Yes ! We need to know this !

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WAKIdesigns (Apr 11, 2020 at 5:17) (Below Threshold)

Air shock on vpp bike is never the best option. Blows into mid travel and and then it’s hard to use full travel. Some love it though since it eats everything mid sized. Not for folks wanting support and active ride

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skylerd FL (Apr 11, 2020 at 8:02)

@WAKIdesigns: the lower-link VPP bikes don't have the leverage curves you seem to think they do...

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og-squid-mtb (Apr 11, 2020 at 12:04)

Rear coil on the Tallboy

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co-taco (Apr 11, 2020 at 14:39)

You can run a 7.5”x 2” shock on a Tallboy. So that’s 190x51 instead of the stock 45mm stroke.

Gives you roughly 135mm of rear wheel travel vs 120mm

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og-squid-mtb (Apr 11, 2020 at 15:35)

@Double-Down: that’s why he says 120ish in the rear . Lol

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seraph (Apr 11, 2020 at 16:17)

@Double-Down: you can also run a 190x45 coil in the rear and keep the same travel. The DB Inline fits.

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jeremy3220 FL (Apr 11, 2020 at 18:03)

I saw pictures somewhere. I think he's running a Van RC coil shock, no idea on stroke length.

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Dustybarrels (Apr 12, 2020 at 22:09)

Planted...don't look into it too much.Fox just launched an absurdly priced coil. If you've been there (coil shock for trail bike), you'd say the lightness of the air can trumps performance advantages of coil at 130mm or so. At least that has been my experience on air (DPX2) vs coil (PUSH) for trail.

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cottontm (Apr 11, 2020 at 19:38)

Why even cover this garbage fork at this point? The 38 is superior in EVERY. WAY.

The 38 has an extra 215g that helps you go downer quicker. Two millimeters of extra stiffness are more than welcome for my 160lb pale body to get that extra roost on my downcountry bike. The 36 just doesn't cut it-- also when tf are we getting 20mm axles???

Also, my bike is set up for 130mm front from the factory, do you guys think it will affect my cornering geo too much if I ride the 38 in 180? Cheers!

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LaurensVR (Apr 12, 2020 at 0:01)

160lbs on a downcountry bike? Forget the 38, you need a 40. Should help slacken the front a little too for even more shredding

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mfoga (Apr 11, 2020 at 7:55)

And I thought my PVC pipe crown race install tool was bad.

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dirtdoctor (Apr 11, 2020 at 17:06)

Jordy my 2017 36 RC2 Pushed is out of warranty for it's 3rd creaky crown replacement. I'm not going to spend $700 CAN to fix this amazing fork 4 times. Good bye Fox.

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Garethccc (Apr 11, 2020 at 6:37)

"Why do you never see elephants hiding in trees? Because they're so damn good at it."

I'll just leave that there. Oh, hey Jordi.

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KnowMtB (Apr 11, 2020 at 12:11)

Lolz - that crown race install! Real careful not to warp it removing it then just whack it on with a hammer! I won’t obsess over my next crown race.

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ArturoBandini (Apr 11, 2020 at 8:19)

If you really wanna learn something in detail, check out thumpertalk: dyno data - and what it tells us about how to tune a shimstack...Or check out shimrestackor directly. The guy running that page/software is incredible (user name „clicked“ on thumpertalk).

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iiman FL (Apr 11, 2020 at 12:06)

damn, some real geekery going on there, cool but a bit overwhelming

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drivereight (Apr 11, 2020 at 13:31)

Forget the fork, tell us about the Tall boy and rear coil shock!!!

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bikehard11 (Apr 11, 2020 at 22:49)

What is an example of athletes giving valuable feedback that actually results in a design change? Or what does an athlete feel that would result in the change of a prototype? I fell like you can always tinker with a decent product to get it to feel good but how do you know when an improvement actually needs to be made to the prototype in a certain area?

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Alvey72 (Apr 12, 2020 at 9:57)

I think it’s probably more that they ride way harder than an average rider, so if there are issues or nuances you find them way faster or learn the product needs some tweaks for certain use cases.

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Dally666 (Apr 12, 2020 at 15:39)

Love these! I was always a set and forget. It was only yrs after riding that I started to play with it. So many yrs waisted (suspension). Jordi’s vids got me to session on trail and playing with settings. I may not know when it’s great but I know when it bad. Can’t be too precious with settings, you can always move them back.

I know it’s subjective but any advice for what I should be feeling for in various situations? High speed down, uphill tech, jumps etc.

Keep’m coming!

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blast-off (Apr 11, 2020 at 4:51)

So is that a 120 rear with a 150 fork? Or is Fox releasing the parts needed to drop the new 36 forks down to 130-140?

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ryan83 (Apr 11, 2020 at 6:47)

Current forks can be dropped to 130mm.

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aljoburr (Apr 11, 2020 at 7:19) (Below Threshold)

@ryan83: Can drop the travel to anything you want, using spacers just have to know where to put spacers!

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TheLittleFox (Apr 11, 2020 at 8:24)

He said it a 140 36 on the TallBoy.

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Ryan2949 (Apr 11, 2020 at 8:32)

He said in the video it's a ~120ish rear (he's got a coil, so probably has an aftermarket link and more travel) and 140mm Fox 36. They have the 140mm airshaft available which is what he's running.

The only two comments you got on here are both wrong.

Fox 36 on 29" wheels: 140mm - 170mm
Fox 36 on 27.5" wheels: 140mm - 180mm

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chrisclifford (Apr 11, 2020 at 10:47)

@Ryan2949: there’s a 130mm air shaft for the current 36

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ryan83 (Apr 11, 2020 at 13:54)

@Ryan2949: www.fanatikbike.com/products/fox-racing-shox-36-float-air-shaft-2020

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Ryan2949 (Apr 11, 2020 at 15:38)

@chrisclifford: @ryan83:

RIP. My bad...

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aljoburr (Apr 11, 2020 at 7:29)

Is nice to see what will be available in the future, but production may change after sponsored get to thrash test them to prove reliability, but no one can really race on them, right now
Exception being Bernand Kerr racing him self down a short back yard track, would be happy to see more of this though?

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chicken74 (Apr 12, 2020 at 1:42)

Wonder if you can get the new Grip 2 vvc damper for 36 forks pre 2021 ?? After market upgrade?

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schofell84 (Apr 11, 2020 at 4:58)

There's some really good suspension books for moto and road-race out there. Great starting points to learning suspension and geometry.

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MrDiamondDave (Apr 11, 2020 at 19:00)

I always install the brake line hose clamp and caliper loosely before I put the wheel on. Little OCD I was happy to see him grease the crown race before "install"

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aljoburr (Apr 12, 2020 at 3:14)

cornichons: Not sure the right name but basically a chauffeuring tool !
Also could be a Burr removal tool, OK I am just leaving?

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aljoburr (Apr 13, 2020 at 3:59)

Rockshox P.S. Just sent you my C.V. BUT really want to be Rockshox / Jordi?
rew31.ultipro.com/SRA1000/JobBoard/JobDetails.aspx?__ID=*1C8B8315B758A88B

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atts (Apr 11, 2020 at 4:56)

racetech.com/page/title/Suspension%20Bible

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MikeAzBS (Apr 11, 2020 at 6:21)

"My CSU is creaking"

Who installed it?

"Jordi"

Hmmmmm

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KoalaDesBois (Apr 11, 2020 at 13:53)

Wrong, CSU are creaking as soon as you look at the fork

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bigb73 (Apr 11, 2020 at 7:48)

Dead blow hammer, pipe cutter and channel locks and my tool kit will be complete.

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vonroder77 (Apr 11, 2020 at 13:46)

Step 1. Call Vorsprung and order a Luftkappe

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bicyclelifestyle (Apr 11, 2020 at 13:56)

Step 2. Throw it away because your won't need it.

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vonroder77 (Apr 11, 2020 at 14:10)

@bicyclelifestyle: you don't need suspension either but I'm still a fan.

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cornichons (Apr 11, 2020 at 9:55)

What was he using to clean up the edge after the pipe cutters?

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islandtrader (Apr 12, 2020 at 8:33)

Something like this. It's called an inside/outside pipe reamer.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Armour-Line-1-8-in-1-5-8-in-Dia-Pipe-and-Tubing-Reamer-Red-RP77271/306699486

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cornichons (Apr 12, 2020 at 18:28)

@islandtrader: Thanks!

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fabriciofracchia (Apr 11, 2020 at 18:14)

Jordie looks like a very friendly guy to spend a ride or a barbecue.

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jonesy-1 (Apr 11, 2020 at 19:50)

Jordi will for ever be the best suspension technician the MTB world has ever seen.. Thank You Jordi!

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Jacquers (Apr 11, 2020 at 3:10)

Is there a Rockshox equivalent of Jordi?

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Brasher FL (Apr 11, 2020 at 3:22)

I don’t think you need one. Set sag, adjust the compression dials that arguably don’t do much and rebound to suit. I like the super simplicity of their products with the home serviceability and upgradable chassis system. This is coming from a fox user too!

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matixsnow (Apr 11, 2020 at 4:42)

@Brasher: No doubt, gosh I can only feel the compression doing something when the fork is torn apart and I am moving the damper by hand. Not sure how or if I notice any difference on the trail.

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nvranka (Apr 11, 2020 at 10:48)

@Brasher: don’t forget spacers...basically the only meaningful tuning “knob” on a RS fork.

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aljoburr (Apr 13, 2020 at 3:26)

I could be, not really that difficult, but I would keep wanting riders to redesign their bikes to fit the suspension, spongers
Could redesign dampers as well?
Would just need a little training?
Loooooooooooook Rock shoc?

www.pinkbike.com/photo/17994253

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cebolla (Apr 11, 2020 at 6:14)

Is this fork available now? I thought it was a 2021 product. If so, what´s the idea of this video?

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rkstar FL (Apr 11, 2020 at 9:32)

Digging the SoCal backyard. How about BBQ'in with Jordie?

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mfoga (Apr 11, 2020 at 19:39)

I think he is in Norcal.

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RadBartTaylor (Apr 13, 2020 at 9:17)

@mfoga: Yeah, I think he said Santa Cruz in last vid....although there is a strong argument that "Central Cal" should be a thing, lets be honest, the Bay Area is nothing like the far northern reaches of Humboldt county, while true SoCal is also nothing like the Bay Area....