The FIM E-Xbike "World Cup" Race in Imola 2019 saw racers take on the MXGP track at the ‘Autodromo Enzo and Dino Ferrari’ with eMTBs. There were two classes of bikes, the EXBGP (45km/h limit) and the EXB2 (25km/h limit). Anze Svetek won the EXBGP class, and Mattia Arduino won the EXB2 class.
If eMTB racing is going to be a thing (and the jury is still out on that one), it can't be this...
Doesnt make them right though!
The marketing behind e-bikes is "one bike to rule them all"
Thanks Sauron but MTB doesn't need it
We got passed by dozens of e-bikes on the way up and also saw them going down.
Only two were not sitting on the saddle on the way down, all were braking constantly with both brakes. 2 were going down with their feet off the pedals!
On the way up, a lady that apparently had a terrible balance managed to hit two persons because the 1.5m gap between them was not enough for her to pass. A guy used his bell because half the fireroad was not enough for him to pass me.
This crap is embarassing. People that are too weak to carry their bike, to pedal their bike and to unskilled to ride in the middle of people shouldnt be allowed to ride 20kg motorbikes at 25km/h in the middle of other people.
There is a reason you need a driving licence for mopeds, motorbikes, cars etc
I guess past the discovery of a new product most of them will give up. If they are not comfortable descending a mountain, they will have no fun and will give up quickly. I think we are just in that kind of period where a product is getting trendy, mainstream and selling like mad and thus a wee bit more affordable*. Once everybody will have its own e-mtb, most will collecting dust for years while experienced riders will continue riding them.
*seriously in most LBS I visited this year it is easier to find an e-MTB in the 1500-4500€ range than a FS trail bike. LBS only seems to stock crappy entry level hardtails or dentist specced full suspension trail bikes. You have to go online to find a proper trail bike in a decent price range.
The market for them is embarassing though. i left the Kenevo group on FB because people were all fannying about with 3 mudguards at a time and not actually riding. but genuinely its a hell of a bike to ride.
Regarding the price, the fact LBS have no problem selling ebikes for 3000-4000€ just shows that ebikes are considered as motorbikes by ebikers. They have issues justifying spending 4K€ for a regular bike, but for an e-bike it's ok for them.
Also LBS have no problem for reducing the price of an ebike of 10% or more (i have heard a guy discussing the price of specialized ebike and it was going in the good way). Now when i tried discussing the price of a DH bike two years ago they looked at me like I was offending them. I wonder if the margins they make are way better on ebikes.
It is an embarrassment though. No arguments there.
AFAIK, working in a shop that carries Specialized, the margin on the Turbo Levo is almost the same as Enduro/Stumpjumper. Something to consider - the more expensive the bike, the smaller the margin is. Cheap hybrids actually have huge margins, while expensive, S-Works models have much smaller margins. E-bikes naturally end up being in the upper price range due to the fact that they have a motor on them, and tend to land themselves in smaller profit margins.
So how does your customer with a bypass surgery does to reduce his heart rate downhill (between the adrenalin and the intense effort of going down, the HR goes up very fast) ?
If I had heart condition that doesn't go well with high HR, I would not be able to climb or to go down (unless we are taking about going down on a fireroad ?).
The human-powered MTB disciples hath created an event, to be a raced hither and with batteries.
And so it was a showeth of shit forthwith.
And the disciples laughed at whosoever rideth with batteries, as they earned their turneths to the top of Zion.
a two-wheeled vehicle that is powered by a motor and has no pedals.
In all seriousness though moped would be more correct but even then a moped has a throttle and the pedalling/motor portions work separately unlike electric bikes which offer assistance and only when pedalling.
So it seems e bikes do not fit into any of the aforementioned categories hence why they are called Electric bicycles.
Moped - 1950s from Swedish, from (trampcykel med) mo(tor och) ped(aler) ‘pedal cycle with motor and pedals’.
aka - a low-power, lightweight motorized bicycle.
In the UK the vehicle meets a legal test.
Motor vehicle- a mechanically propelled vehicle intended or adapted for use on a road.
Electric Pedal assisted cycles are excluded from this as exempt along with mobility scooters and lawnmowers - think council. An electric scooter would not be as its sole power comes from the electric.
Mopeds with pedals have to be registered before 1977 (think chicken chaser).
Its interesting that ebikes are excluded. Consider that a ‘road’ is a highway that the public has access to and includes pavements, hedges adjacent, etc. Road should be taken to mean an actual road be that tarmac, unmetalled or a county rd.
There you have it. In the US it may be different. Ebikes are legal in the UK on both the road and as exempt as a MV, can leave the carriage way as a bike or horse could.
Still dont fully agree with them.
No way is this a legitimate sport, looked like the chunky guy who won obviously had a stronger bike. The sponsors of this should be embarrassed and ditch it but they probably are obligated to stick it out for the year. Will be interesting to watch this off road moped abortion racing series. Most elaborate podium ever when they don't even have podiums for world cup DH anymore.
Having said all that at least they had ruts to deal with and it's probably fun to race, especially if you have the strongest motor.
This is not racing.
It’s easy if you run a one horse race.
Still, I don’t suppose it matters if there’s no one competing against you.
Accidentally flushing a $100 down the toilet would not be as disappointing as this.
Doing a crossword puzzle had more surprises than this.
Watching 2 bums fight over a shopping cart would be more worthy of recording.
If a tree fell in the forest and there was someone there to hear it...that would be more newsworthy.
If the Kardashians posted something on social media about what they are wearing, that would be more interesting.
When an elephant takes a dump at a parade, that has more action.
The guy walking behind the elephant cleaning up the mess has more to say than these riders.
Okay, I'm done.
Although, this might be the best format for ebikes. Something super boring and lame.
Also, why are riders taking the outside line? You're going like 15mph, you can just follow the inside line every time.
Endurance Team racing over great distances and long amounts of time, allowing teams to cover ridiculous amounts of ground and have lots of opportunity for "expedition" type adventure while racing.
also could get into some interesting strategies with how much "assist" one uses for the e-bike if you started making rules around when they can replace batteries. One guy can go further than the others before he "pits" because he doesn't use as much juice while the other one goes faster but has to pit sooner.
I always wondered what that it looked like, as I can't really take him seriously.
For some reason this is even worse than I imagined.
My Kid could have raced this and he is six.
- "hey eMTB guys I have an eMX can I play too?"
- "yea sure so long as you 'dial it back' to fit within our 'regulations' ".
A couple of random thoughts:
1. Someone needs to watch enough of this to figure out what place Marco Melandri finished and see that it get recorded on his Wikipedia page.
2. I think Niki Makk is my new hero.
Not a single jump happened during the entire race since they're meant for MOTOCROSS BIKES and meant for high speed.
Also, of course the dude with the custom ebike (lime green bike). You can see he's not even pedaling but he's absolutely hauling.
- a dude winning while sitting down and just flying at double the speed of anyone else, and they run over and cart his bike off for inspection before he can even start celebrating
- someone who works for production (sounds like shes an event planner?) notices that no women entered and hops in to claim the title
Soooooooooo many questions. That was 5 minutes of my life i'm never going to get back.
I want to reiterate... hes 5 years old.
Sorry for bring MTB into disrepute. haha
Side Note: RIVETING Commentary! Get those guys a medal and a scratch and sniff!
Also, they hate us more than we hate them. And there willl be more of them.
lol that's feraking awful. And anyone that's ever ridden a bike shoulda seen that a mile away.
like riding a road bike at the Indy Raceway... fak
Seriously which of this riders lined up thinking, 'Yea, this seems like good fun!"
(que horrible esa competencia y que vergüenza debió pasar el ganador con esa supuesta bicicleta que mas bien era motocicleta electrica)
You still have hit the ball.
Think about my comparasion. Then re-think getting an Ebike.
Human powered bikes are ridden by awesome people you have all types of physical challenges.
Just pedal. Find your speed, your pace, your fun and you satisfaction.
Don't get a motor.
Is someone taking the piss??
I love bikes ....... but ,,,,,,, .......
That was so ridiculous that I’d assume it was a joke ... except it wasn’t.
Well, that certainly cooked that goose ????
I think the AMA idea of running the ebikes with the off road/ here scramble series seems like a better idea... It couldn't be worse...
Did she win or lose?
Chest protectors and full face helmets?
Who the hell put this together?
What the actual f##k was that?
Someone at the FIM just reinvented XC but made it 100% worse.....
That looks like a proper MX track.
e-mtb's for the loss.
Looks like a bit of fun to me and riding on a mxgp track
Do you D H rollers hate ALL other sports ?
My wife rides a Pivot ebike, she watched that video and couldn’t stop laughing, then I told her it wasn’t a parody and she started laughing even harder.