Video: The Key Techniques For Hitting Any Drop - How To Bike with Ben Cathro Episode 9

Nov 10, 2021
by Pinkbike Originals  


HOW TO BIKE

EPISODE 9



Do you have a classic case of the nosedives? Well, Ben Cathro is here to help with helpful tips and tricks to turn any drop into a walk in the park.




We'd like to extend a huge thank you to Santa Cruz Bicycles, Deity, POC and DHaRCO who supported this project.







125 Comments

  • 107 1
 Friday Fails gives you all the guidance you need, just roll up the the drop as slowly as possible and roll off. Bonus points awarded for the size of your back pack/water pack as well as use of sneakers/trainer shoes.
  • 47 0
 Don't forget to clamp down on the brakes right after your front wheel leaves the drop.
  • 13 13
 @jeremy3220: oh yeah, and NEVER pull up...at all!
  • 100 0
 Simply allow ones Ibis to do the work
  • 25 5
 @bman33: I mean, you shouldn't pull up on the bars if you're using proper technique.
  • 2 0
 @AyJayDoubleyou: Which friday fails is that?
  • 19 1
 @bman33: Yes, please pull up on the bars more like the guy in the first fail. How else am I going to afford my new 160 e?
  • 39 0
 what about the first lap of the Olympic XC race?
  • 8 2
 @redrook: Agreed... However, my point was that most of the Friday Fails riders going less than walking speed never even pull up to save themselves from their awful technique.
  • 13 11
 @hamncheez: MVP jokes are not as funny anymore. Drop it already!
  • 32 0
 @notai: MVP would be head over heels to learn we've moved on from that joke
  • 3 0
 Those school backpacks turn up any FF to 11. Love em.
  • 5 0
 Also wearing Dungarees is recommended.
  • 3 11
flag Bomadics (Nov 10, 2021 at 13:03) (Below Threshold)
 @bman33: @redrook: not always true though, very steep drops you need to yank at slow speeds so you don't end up going too far. I turned a 6 footer into a 15 footer going to fast on a super steep drop, learned my lesson that day!
  • 3 0
 @Bomadics: the whole point was making fun of Friday Fails. Apologies for not getting pedantic enough for the crowd. Wink
  • 3 0
 @bman33: That was a big WHOOOOSH over the head going on there... Smile
  • 1 9
flag Bomadics (Nov 10, 2021 at 16:43) (Below Threshold)
 @bman33: Apology accepted, sarcasm isn't as easy as it looks, you'll get it one day!
  • 7 1
 I wonder how many people will only watch the first 5 minutes of the video, think they got this covered and go out this weekend and create MORE Friday Fails content...? Smile
  • 1 0
 @notai: yeah, they just go down like a ton of bricks.
  • 6 0
 @Bomadics: Nope, if you watch this video you'll learn what to do at low speeds, and there's no yanking on the bars mentioned. It's all about weight distribution and timing.
  • 2 5
 @redrook: I was talking about steep drops, very steep drops, not what Ben was teaching, apples and oranges!
  • 6 0
 @Bomadics: A drop is a drop, doesn't matter how steep. It could be a vertical drop and you're still using the same technique.
  • 5 0
 @Bomadics: That makes no sense, at a certain point a slope becomes a drop, so what does it matter how steep a drop is anyway? You never pull on the bars, even if you wheelie or manual you're weighting the back, not pulling the bars. You're obviously holding onto the bars, but you're not pulling them towards you.
  • 3 0
 @Bomadics: Apples and apples, there's no orange there. A drop is a drop. There's lots of kinds of drop, and every technique is covered in this video.
  • 64 0
 Just let the Ibis do the work. There’s nothing more to it.
  • 1 0
 ...I'm out of touch...I've seen this reference and I have no idea what it means, is it a FF thing?
  • 25 0
 @SATN-XC: Friday fails #120 - 0:36
  • 3 0
 @stanimal42: thank you! just watched it, lol
  • 37 0
 link for the lazy

youtu.be/6DkUMyi3Mxg?t=34
  • 2 0
 @f00bar: Just for me, thanks!
  • 3 0
 @stanimal42: That was amazing
  • 6 0
 @stanimal42: Thank you for your service.
  • 6 0
 If Ibis ever makes an ebike and doesn't use the phrase "let your Ibis do the job" (of climbing) in their marketing, it'll be disappointing for me.
  • 1 0
 @f00bar: thanks
  • 1 1
 @f00bar: I'd thank you but can't be f*cked.
  • 50 0
 These are the best technique videos on the internet. Cathro is the man!
  • 23 0
 I find the best technique for just about any drop is to make sure someone is following close behind you and brake as you reach the lip
  • 5 0
 Well, at least you'll have a chance to catch the backside of the drop. It is all about generating speed from the backsides. Entering the obstacle at a higher speed comes later. Generating speed from someone crashing into you from behind is next level though but may be valuable once they bring back WC 4X racing.
  • 5 1
 @vinay: Just make sure the person behind you wasn't the one who drove there
  • 23 0
 PFP, that you?
  • 1 0
 Works out great! I had a guy yank the brake and it sent me scrambling right down a 8ft drop-off at 3mph..bad wreck!
  • 18 0
 I usually do not do any braking up the drops because my hands are on my bar ends.
  • 3 0
 Is that you Doug? If so, comment checks out lol
  • 2 0
 @letsgoridebikes18: It sure is. I find these videos real helpful for my Big City Sends BUT they need to have a Nickelback soundtrack. Don't tell my boss............
  • 2 0
 @dldewar: no worries, you are grown up enough to make your own bad life choices.
  • 14 0
 püsh?
  • 1 0
 poo
  • 1 0
 I came all the way down here to make this very comment!!
  • 14 2
 I hear it is easier to do drops on bikes that report their Tier 3 GHG impacts over the companies that only include 1 and 2.
  • 11 0
 I love his examples of what not to do. I wonder if it takes him a few tries to get just the right level of bad technique?
  • 11 0
 curious to know how unnerving it is to purposely hit a drop with bad form/technique. I have bad form but don't realize it until after I find myself flailing midair or on my back in the dirt
  • 4 0
 @SATN-XC: I think it'd be difficult to override years of experience doing it correctly, muscle memory or whatever it is. I bet it'd take a lot of concentration to do it wrong.
  • 2 0
 @SATN-XC: its very unnerving. When I try to replicate mistakes people are making when i'm teaching its actually really hard.
  • 2 0
 Looking like a novice to demonstrate a “what not to do” moment is hard and takes practice.
Most mew instructors will demonstrate how a beginner or novice looks in a way that no beginner or novice has ever looked.
Cathro does have it dialled, with the added roll away comedy bonus “donkey nod”.
Kudos.
  • 9 0
 Dude has femurs twice as long as mine. Makes it look super easy to get off the back of the bike.
  • 11 0
 From the thumbnail, it does indeed look like Ben’s knee to arse dimension is about the same as a 29inch wheel
  • 1 0
 Mullet ?
  • 1 0
 @pen9-wy: How about just 27.5 at both ends? lol
  • 8 0
 I find it really effective to watch Friday Fails and just do the opposite of what they do.
  • 8 0
 This. Although they seem to always be creating inventive ways to crash...
  • 8 0
 Finally the episode mvdp has been waiting for!
  • 7 0
 Dude, you keep pushing this technique on us. Drop it.
  • 5 0
 happy to see the poster child of friday fails drops doing the job.

yours truly, a ripmo/ripley owner
  • 3 0
 "....but...can I roll it?"

My normal response to knowing a drop is coming up.
Seriously, I need to work on this. This video is my inspiration to put some time in this weekend
  • 2 0
 Lol, yep. I rolled the rock drop on lower A-Line in Whistler, to the shock and disgust of the guys I was riding with. It's...not a roller.
  • 4 0
 I was feeling like a pro, right up until he said that its the absolute wrong way to do it... oh well, it felt good while it lasted.
  • 4 0
 I absolutely love these videos. Ben does such a great job explaining, but the editor is an unsung hero too. Whoever that is deserves a ton of credit as well!
  • 2 0
 Completely agree with the 'push' or 'extend' method.. Seen too many people over boost their bunny hop at the lip, end up completely skewed off line and have effectively amplified their crash. There's a lot of 'noise' on the internet about what to do on a bike, but my advice to anyone wanting to improve is to listen to The Line Guy!
  • 4 0
 For some reason, I have Ben wearing those tan-colored overalls. Dammit, it's burned into my eyes!
  • 4 0
 video needs some serious audio balance! Ben is soo quiet compared to the rest of it.
  • 1 0
 Lately I’ve been trying to work on drops at crawling speed (a rock garden with very tight turn leading you into a drop) and when a very steep downward section that has a drop (take off and landing are both steep down)

Is the push technique still the way for both of these? Or is that where many along and pedal wheelie comes in?
  • 1 0
 A wheelie drop might be appropriate there if you're at a near stand-still, as you'll need some momentum to carry you off the drop (and some force to get your front wheel up). You can still push off from nearly a stop if you've got good technique though. Practice on a curb and work your way up!
  • 1 0
 Wish I was good enough to do a pedal/wheelie drop, but have found that I can bunny hop about exactly a bike length from nearly a dead stop as he also illustrates in the video as a good emergency technique. Wouldn't want to do it on anything over about 3 feet but helpful when you come up to something very slowly that you thought was a roll and turns out to be a drop.
  • 1 0
 If the take off of the drop is rounded off, (so it has goes from horizontal to a foot or so of down slope before it goes vertical). Then putting your front wheel over the knuckle onto the down slope and and almost stopping leaning forward then hopping, pushing off with both wheels propelling yourself forward horizontally. I'm probably not explaining this technique well at all, but it works well on some super slow drops.
  • 2 0
 These videos are wonderful. Is there anyway you can add a normal sized person for more visuals of what the body positions look like? I feel like were only getting the tall person betas...
  • 3 0
 Basically squashing the drop. Looks like the faster you're going, the easier/more natural this technique would be.
  • 3 0
 I want to see Cathro out in Canada with Remi on the big features. I think it would make for some entertaining videos.
  • 3 0
 Speaking as an Australian, I can confirm that sometimes my bike absorbs me as per Ben's final advice.
  • 3 0
 That Friday fails clip at the beginning made me wince
  • 3 0
 love these vids with Ben.
  • 3 0
 Loved the salt & peppa rif
  • 1 0
 @Eielk: totally agreed. honestly good editing in the vids with him too (props to whomever does it) I really value videos with smooth editing and music with worthwhile clips and some fun. The way people edit videos has always been a pet peeve of mine (former videographer and edit person myself) so fun music is usually my baseline haha
  • 2 0
 Good on Ben on that first drop, I think I might crash trying to make a drop look as bad as that.
  • 4 5
 @aljoburr: motion along x axis is independent from motion along y axis.
So, different takeoff speeds along x don't affect gravity acceleration along y.
Hence if the ground is flat -i.e., not sloping away from the takeoff- the vertical drop along y is constant for every takeoff speed, and as g is also constant, so is flight time.
If the landing was sloped on the other hand, faster riders would face more vertical drop, so their flight time would increase.
  • 18 0
 You lost me at motion
  • 4 0
 Or, you know, the explanation in the video
  • 3 0
 Start big then work your way down to the smaller more tech drops.
  • 2 0
 Awesome video. I love a good drop, especially on a Saturday night.
  • 1 0
 safe as fuck!
  • 2 0
 well it looks like entire series was more or less inspired by friday fails
  • 1 0
 droppy flops = floppy drops ? Best part of my day so far.... I need to drop some !@#$.
  • 1 0
 I was scared of drops because every time I hit one my bike went out of control. now I feel great doing drops! thx!
  • 1 0
 In fact I prefer to combine hop and push.
  • 2 0
 Just roll it....
  • 2 0
 Best watched at 4:20
  • 1 0
 Huck to flat first attempt, then slow down a bit second attempt....
  • 1 0
 Good video. I hit some drops today.
  • 1 0
 Good old Glentress!
  • 1 0
 Poosh. Bah ha
  • 1 0
 by poosh he means push, right?
  • 1 0
 You don't go weightless.
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