Last week, Neko published a close look at his low pivot prototype. Now, it's time to check out the high pivot version.
This is a basic video series where I will go in depth on why I did what I did, how I managed to get there and what the results were. Follow along if you want to learn all of the details!—Neko Mulally
As many others have said after the first video, I really enjoy these because they're not full of marketing crap. As someone who loves welding and has had custom parts made before (hello $5000 gauge panel), I can totally appreciate your breakdown of the construction expense.
Thank you very much, and I'll actually be paying attention to downhill this year.
His bolt problem is similar to a problem I had with my LS1 swapped E36 M3, breaking rear differential bolts... I went through multiple bolt iterations to find one that's strong enough to support the extra torque.
Dammit Neko, keep going and crush it. I think the majority of us are rooting for you and this project. We completely appreciate the full disclosure and transparency.
I always liked Neko but basically just from the YT videos as Gwin's teammate. Over the past few months with these super genuine, interesting videos he's become one of my favourite racers! Would love to buy a jersey or whatever swag to support him this season
Love this video series. Just a thought regarding recovery of some of your investment dollars. Once you settle on a good frame design you’re happy with. You may want to consider a small batch run for “private sale”. I’m sure there’s a big enough group of core riders/racers that would love a custom frame. This way you can be safe from any silly lawsuits from issues that could possibly arise from structural anomalies. Keep up the awesome work.
Cool project! Bet its expensive but you also get an awesome experience out of designing your own frame. That alone has a value. Impressive and good luck!
Also is shock bolt issues a high pivot thing? Since leaving my BMX days behind ive cracked a handful of shockbolts on a Supreme frame and its super annoying cause sometimes the threaded part gets stuck in the linkage so you gotta drill it out..
if you're reading this Neko, can't remember the bike, but I've seen one that had a small 90° yoke connecting the shock to the frame, so the shock is positioned sideways. A piggyback on the side as opossed to the front would allow for less/no bend in the downtube, if you see a benefit to it.
With all the real estate on the sides of the main linkages, I wonder if Cascade Components could have a textured Smoky Mountain graphic machined into them. That would be sweet IMHO.
Great to hear the real story about all issues as well as the solutions. I'm sure so many things could go wrong building a frame. Murphy's law. Bending shock bolts seems like a common issue. I bent several shock bolts on older models of Intense frames (6.6, Slopestyle, and Carbine).
I too receive an email from itrack about my design with the multilink idler mounted design. I personally think the patent granted to him is too generalized and is the reason the likes of the Norco range and gt force have abysmal antisquats.
On the same note, this also means the similarly designed intense prototype has even less chance of going into production unless they're willing to pay the licensing fee other bike brands like Kavenz weren't willing to.
I love how he freely admits to reverse engineering other designs. That reminds me of the Chrysler 200, which has a miserable rear-seat entrance due to the C-pillar intruding on head room. I guess someone asked about that design oversite and Sergio Marchionne said something to the effect of "It's an issue on the Hyundai Sonata as well, which is what we were copying."
Neko, great series! I do have a question, do you have a 2nd set of parts (fork wheels ect..) to build both bikes at the same time? This way you do not have waste time swapping parts? If not maybe we need a donation!
Oh it’s significant Neko you sly dog
Thank you very much, and I'll actually be paying attention to downhill this year.
Neko has the luxury of calling out the hippies and the necks because he is about as genuinely a nice guys as it gets.
Also is shock bolt issues a high pivot thing? Since leaving my BMX days behind ive cracked a handful of shockbolts on a Supreme frame and its super annoying cause sometimes the threaded part gets stuck in the linkage so you gotta drill it out..
Can't wait for the first race, keep it up!
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