Video: The Video Challenge - Pinkbike Academy Episode 8

Dec 3, 2020
by Pinkbike Originals  

PINKBIKE ACADEMY
PRESENTED BY SHIMANO


EPISODE 8




This time on Pinkbike Academy the contestants compete in a challenge to see who can film and edit the best video they can in two hours using just a GoPro.


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132 Comments

  • 134 0
 I felt like the least they could do was show the full 1-min clips!
  • 1 59
flag cool3 (Dec 3, 2020 at 7:56) (Below Threshold)
 That's what they did.
  • 26 0
 @cool3:
27s of Jo
28s of Angie
I didn't time the others, but it looked similar.
  • 30 2
 that would show to much riding they are going for influencer who rides a mountain bike... sometimes
  • 12 0
 @thingswelike: I thought it was a full minute, my bad. Yes, you're right, the whole clip would have been fair.
  • 19 0
 @thingswelike: ya looks like they cut out half our videos which sucks as I think the whole thing is alot better
  • 6 1
 @jogpeters: Yeah - I think we totally lost the meaning of Angie's - we only caught a glimpse of the concept. Same with Evan's really assuming he talked more about the 'after work' aspect. Your dancing was cool though!
  • 6 0
 Aaaand thats how media works nowadays,.... you have 1minute clip, and you want to highlight some and downvote others? Well keep the best 30 seconds for your fav and worst 30 seconds for the one which needs to go,... very poor practice pinkbike! I hope your reviews are not done the same way!
  • 65 1
 I’d like to see Evan and Ben up against a male pro rider and jo against a female pro rider. It’s hard to figure out how competitive jo would be comparing her to Evan and Ben.
  • 44 1
 Yeah, I'm a lot more interested in how well/competitively these people ride their bikes than I am about whether they can swim in a cold lake, stay quiet in a car, or rub their belly while tapping their head at the same time.
  • 20 1
 She is pretty fast... Stumble across her 4th Strava place on a Squamish trail right up there with ALN and Miranda Miller
www.strava.com/segments/2353392
  • 5 0
 I don't believe it's all about speed for pro rider's these days, I think you can make a good living off the back of a bike, and not be winning races. In the end it's about selling for the sponsors. Riders like Gully, and Tippie or Claire Buchar and Hanna Barnes are not winning races, but they sell bikes and accessories! Personality and relatability are more important to many sponsors.
  • 5 0
 @Bomadics: for sure! I agree there are a lot of other important factors, I just don’t want to see jo thrown out for being the slowest (same way vlad stayed in: not being THE slowest but still being proportionally slowest in men’s category, slowest girl shouldn’t be kicked if she is proportionally faster than a slow guy) ps I hope you guys can understand my awful explanation
  • 4 0
 @FlavienB: thanks !!
  • 1 3
 Ive ridden with a newer female pro rider and she would smoke Jo. And this rider places in most Calif Enduro Series races. But again, she’s a pro and Jo is almost a pro.
  • 2 0
 @victored: what is the point in saying this?! I hope jo wins, she’s the perfect mix of skill and personality, like soooo many people have said speed isn’t the only factor and it seems like jo would win even if it was!
  • 3 0
 @Bomadics: you've nailed it. This vid about former pro slope-rider turned sponsored rider and youtuber, Eric Porter, highlights your point exactly.
youtu.be/qCTI5R_zya0
  • 1 1
 @Bomadics: that's not called a pro rider tho!! that's called an influencer just happens they ride bikes..
  • 1 1
 @bike-lair: it is if your actually racing?!
  • 52 1
 Hol up, did Jo, the person who hates taking selfies, really just floss for her GoPro edit?
  • 31 0
 They should have to submit to Friday Fails.
  • 24 1
 I want to say it will come down to Evan and Jo in the final, but the personality types are too similar. Too kind “low-key” and “easy going.” So I think the final will be Jo and Ben. It could be Ben and Evan, but I think they would like a woman going into the final.
  • 17 5
 yep gotta be pc! isnt it odd that there are 2 boys and 2 girls left must be a coincidence?!
  • 10 1
 @waxed: Well, 2 boys, 1 girl now. But my guess is they’ll even it out in the next episode.
  • 3 0
 They said the final challenge starts in the next episode. Sounds like the winner will be chosen out of these three and there will not be another single elimination.
  • 1 1
 @TheR: yeah not been watching it just saw the pol and presumed it was 4
  • 1 0
 it will be Ben vs Evan, a timed Enduro Race, winner takes all.
  • 2 0
 @Narro2: I think that’s what we all want. I don’t think that’s what we will get.
  • 23 0
 You gotta imagine Orbea has a say in this..
  • 23 10
 Probably. They're just going to waste a pro contract on someone who could probably not even win a local cat 1 race.
  • 26 5
 @captbennett: dude you don't have a clue I can't speak for Joe but Ben and Evan are easily in the mix with the top EWS racers.
  • 23 0
 @captbennett: Ben has raced world cups...
  • 12 1
 @DylanDaSilva: Sorry I mistyped. I meant to say They're NOT just going to waste a pro contract...

Meaning they want Ben or Evan to win.
  • 6 9
 @captbennett: im betting its going to be a girl that wins tbh. well that would be the pc winner anyway!
  • 3 2
 Exactly what I guess and I believe they want Ben
  • 24 9
 *Potential Spoiler*

This competition needs more events that are less subjective. Seems unfair to eliminate someone based off of a lousy video edit, while the week prior marking them safe after losing a timed race. Different people have different tastes in edits. Elimination this week made sense, but overall this series would be way more exciting if the challenge involved actual riding/bike skills (I skipped 22 out of the 26 minutes).
  • 21 4
 because this weird reality tv crap has nothing to do with pro mountain biking and somehow the winner gets a pro contract go figure
  • 7 1
 @waxed: maybe that's the lesson to learn, maybe a pro becomes just company's bitch. Just like they "pay" fot this chance, trading their dignity and humanity. Because thats what reality shows are.
  • 67 8
 @waxed:
I have had a few pro contracts before. Experienced it and learned a lot about the business side of the industry. Years later I sat in Vegas with some high level people within the industry (friends). Someone brought a US national pro xc racer who had no ideal who the people were in the group. He annoying complained for 10 minutes about how fast he was and how he wasn't getting sponsors. As everyone was quiet and after seeing many eyes roll at the table I asked him "What else are you besides fast?" He responded with "Nothing else is as relevant as being fast." I let him know it is about helping sponsors develop product, drive sales, create new channels for sales, and pitching products to other riders to keep them excited about those products. The guy disagreed and left frustrated a few minutes later. Everyone there said "You nailed it" after he left.

This PB Challenge is entertaining and is opening up a new path to bring people to PB. I like it. As far as the pro contract for a year goes I believe that by the end of the show that all of the brands (Orbea, Fox,...) will have already gotten their money's worth in brand advertisement. Each episode shows us new product across men/women, their differing styles, and how the brands are wanting to support the "Dream" of these/all riders become a pro racer. Each participant is learning a lot and providing a lot to watchers.

Some minor parts of the show are a little gimmicky but for the most part I applaud PB and the brands involved in creating a new way to introduce produces, support men/women in cycling, and providing us with interesting content during 2020.
  • 7 2
 @vjunior21: you said it, this show is only about product placement and the participant's ability to win races or potential are not at the top of list in this reality show.
  • 10 24
flag waxed (Dec 3, 2020 at 10:50) (Below Threshold)
 @vjunior21: well shit that makes me really depressed! i watch pro mtb for the racing and try to pay as little as possible attn to the hyperbole marketing crap! i also refuse to watch any mainstream tv for the same reason its just a load of awful crap for the dumbed down masses! im just not the target audience i guess and you can keep your shitty meetings about how much product your going to sell by employing someone based on how good they look in fox clothing and i will watch the competition of racing! maybe you should work for the uci!!
  • 7 15
flag waxed (Dec 3, 2020 at 10:55) (Below Threshold)
 @dex271: next episode who can eat the most maggots and be in a room with 100 snakes its ok they will have a bike with them and be wearing fox clothing so it still applies to the "sport"
  • 5 1
 I wonder if all of these athletes were vetted to be potential race winners with pro support, if only at the national/regional level. That way the brands providing a pro contract get a rider they can bankroll for a year with at least mediocre results on the pro level regardless of who wins. And then the value the brands get from the contest and contract are, like others have said, the product placement and exposure from the show. These challenges do seem contrived, and I would also have like to see more challenges focused on fitness, riding skills, and racing. For example, I think the reasons Addison was eliminated were bs. Not talking in a car has nothing to do with being a pro rider.
  • 7 0
 @waxed:
Don't let what I shared get you down. That was not my original intension. When I was younger I understood things differently and more of idealist whey it came to sponsorship. As one gets further into it and more educated on the how/why people get paid by sponsors...reality sets in. I shared my experience so maybe those younger racers could shift their understanding on how to better position themselves to get sponsored.

I a recall top pro downhiller interview where he talked about deciding on offers from brands when his current contract is up. He said "Sure that one brand is offering twice as much than others to race on their bike but is is a crap bike." The likelihood of doing well on that bike is not good but DH racer careers are short so he decided to maximize his earnings while he could. Sure he did poorly for two seasons and went back to a better brand that yielded better results. The outcome was he was still racing as a pro and pocketed more money for his post racing career.

Even some of the most anti-establishment riders I know have followed this path.
  • 6 6
 @vjunior21: yeah i get you im just a grumpy c*nt that doesnt have any social media accounts so i guess its all lost on me. grumble, i hate young people, grumble bitch moan... Smile
  • 6 0
 @waxed:
I get where you are at with all of it. Kind of unfortunate when you see there is a bigger picture behind the curtain but there are positives to it all.
1: Some racers become pros and get to live out a dream.
2: We get to watch them live out there dream and be entertained by it. Almost a connection as we understand when they crash or are disappointed due to bike failures...because we have all been there and lived similar crashes and bike failures.
3: These riders in most cases use the bike companies to improve all of the equipment the industry has to offer and they get paid to do it.
4: Influencers don't really improve the products...they just try to market/sell. So if they are the ones you don't like then you side step them by not being on social media. Bravo.

Hope that puts a smile on your face...if only for a few seconds.
  • 2 0
 @pgomez:
I imagine the pro contract will look something like a pioneer contract. The person will get free product, a bit of discretionary spending, maybe some events to attend for brand support (Who knows about this with covid though), some funding as a social media influencer based on profile analytics, and the biggest earner as a dollar amount from every brand based on your placement in each event you compete in. The last one is pretty standard when you place on the podium.

I slightly disagree with you on the challenges as I think it is best to look at it for another angle. The challenges like building the bike, racing, finding your way, hustling all of the time, and capturing video content are all important in the life a pro racer. Gone are the days of having a team mechanic work on your bike so a racer needs to know how to work/fix their own bike. The constant hustle is great to learn as even if you arrive at an event early, you always feel like you are rushed.

The car thing was a bit odd but...have you ever travelled to an event and have a drive that doesn't speak the same language as you. There is a lot of pointing and non verbal ques to get you where you need to be. If that was their goal in the challenge I think they nailed it. They also should be explaining after the fact why the challenges are set up they way they are so the riders understand how the experience can be usable in real life. @waxed was right. If it seems ridiculous and no one is explaining how the experience is usable then it could look like a show filled with ridiculous tasks just to be ridiculous.

I also thin Addison being eliminated was a bad decision. I think the judges should have conferred about what he said "A responsible person always has another person check their work to make sure that everything is done right." If the judges did not believe that then they would have had everyone in the first episode build their own bikes then go ride them. I think they judges came in with a ridged way of looking at things in that episode and didn't think or want to admit that they missed a pretty important matter. Seems a bit myopic.

Attorney's are watching this going "So the judges forced these teams of two to not check each others bikes for proper installation of parts prior to riding them offroad. The legal terms for these are "strict liability and Vicarious Negligence."
  • 2 0
 @vjunior21: I was gonna like your post until the legal terms, barf!
  • 1 0
 @vjunior21: i was thinking about your replies and i compared it to the current news media or current facts about anything political on social media and i think its the same thing.. the world has gone crazy and people will do or say anything for money even if it has nothing to do with reality.... orrrr... pro mountain biking..
  • 2 0
 I thought it was funny how a rider got eliminated because someone else took a bad picture of him.....This show is dumb, watched the first couple episodes to pass time but can't bear anymore....It feels like Disney channel made it for kids.
  • 1 0
 @waxed:
I wouldn't necessarily disagree. Just to to find the things that make you happy, like ridings, and find entertainment that is entertaining...not annoying to watch.
  • 13 2
 Spoiler Alert:

next week: Evan get eliminated for finishing last in the chili cook off
finals:
1. First one back at the car with the most PB academy trail signs
2. First one to finish cleaning the contestants dorm,
3. First one to load their cube van with all the camera gear and bikes
and the final event of the day
4. First one to get the rental car back to vancouver.

Ben win signs.
Jo wins cleaning because the men are pigs and didn;t clean the whole week
Ben wins van load as Jo drops the $10 000 huck to flat camera and gets a DSQ
Ben wins rental car return because Jo got pulled over by the cops for speeding because she to pass Ben to win to force a tie breaker Moo off.

Congrats Ben
  • 2 0
 Chili cook off would be jumping the shark but also not a total surprise at this point.
  • 5 0
 finally some good fucking mountain biking.
  • 19 7
 I liked jo’s a ton, she knew that she couldn’t match some of the tricks from Ben or Evan so she took it in a more fun direction.
  • 16 3
 Right when I get to work PB Academy goes live...
  • 11 3
 I know The Privateer has been a flop a few times in terms of producing a successful pro rider, but that was way better/more inspiring content than this is. Can we just bring that back? Nothing against the contestants (they all seem like awesome people), but the format here is so gimmicky. Seriously asking myself if it's worth watching the next episode.
  • 1 1
 no
  • 1 0
 @waxed: no yourself
  • 1 0
 @pgomez: i agree
  • 1 0
 @waxed: so... yes? lol
  • 1 0
 @waxed: oh. well, agree to disagree.
  • 9 1
 Remy Metailler commented on the youtube video and said it best. Nowadays there are plenty of fast riders so sponsors don't give a shit about riders who are fast but can't sponsor themselves. At the end of the day this is a business and the name of the game is to sell product. A company will prefer to dump tons of cash to someone who comes in 10th but knows how to market the crap out of themselves and move product to someone who always comes 1st but no one knows who they are.
  • 8 0
 You can watch the full edits on our IG pages . Mine is @jo___peters if you are interested !
  • 4 0
 Angie's shoot was a perfect example of how decent riding can be killed by luck of idea/gopro skills. Evan and Ben obviously stood up but I liked Evan's edit more with cuts maching the music
  • 6 0
 Evan's use of "beauty" as an exclamation has earned him all my votes forever.
  • 5 0
 Ben's transition at 19:12 won it for me. Being able to link shots in quirky seamless ways is huge in editing.
  • 2 0
 Really enjoing this format and looking forward to season 2.

What do you think about a slopestyle/freeride version of this?
I feel like slopestyle/freeride riders are often incredibly well-rounded athletes that can ride anything and create excellent content on any terrain.

Also, how sick would it be if legends like Berrecloth, Söderström and Fairclough etc. would be part of the judges team?
  • 6 3
 "That being said" - [Ingio Montoya]You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.[/Ingio Montoya]
  • 4 0
 Inigo Montoya
  • 2 0
 @JayUpNorth: oops - yeah - I even copied it and pasted the type for the closing tag!
  • 7 0
 @thingswelike: Shame. Prepare to die...
  • 2 0
 @thingswelike: as long as we can all agree that Inigo is terrific, no worries. Great movie.
  • 4 3
 Is the expectation that the winner would compete on the EWS circuit, or are we using the term "pro" loosely here? Hard to tell from the actual show, BUT, if I were Orbea and searching for my next EWS athlete and the winner of this show is great at social media and more "non-race specific" tasks, but bottom of the pack compared to average EWS times, I'd be pissed!
  • 2 0
 Keep in mind "professional" simply means that said subject is their profession/source of income. It is not exclusive to racing. My guess is that, while racing is/was the first intention, they are also evaluating marketability and versatility in order to best suit the brand. IE: They could pick a winner who suits the rest of the brand very well, and focus more on marketing, instead of racing, if they felt their was more value in selecting that person.
  • 4 0
 would love to see the full edits posted
  • 1 0
 Jo seems more relaxed and has really come into her own in the last 2 episodes as has Evan, while Ben has had his confidence dented a bit... will he bounce back? Make sure you don't miss the next epispde.
  • 7 3
 #Danceoff2020
  • 2 2
 that will be the final challenge to decide who is the best mtb'er
  • 4 5
 @waxed: I just skim very quickly through these videos and I can't believe that this is for a pro contract... the challenges are pitiful. It looks like they just want another ambassador more than anything and strictly don't care about any riding skills at all.

Also PB move your relic of a site to something that updates the comment section without having to refresh it. Unless you're working on revamping it I will retract my statement but this is seriously bad.
  • 1 0
 NO
  • 1 2
 @monkeybizz: yeah might as well be for a holiday or a cash prize! would be way cooler if the discipline was DH or even freeride or freestyle, enduro is pretty boring for me as a viewer ive not managed to get into it properly and i have tried following it for a season but just missed some and never bothered to rewatch but i never miss a crankworks, rampage etc. or a DH event! i think ive watched more xc than enduro!
  • 4 0
 @monkeybizz: I may be a dinosaur, but I really like being able to go through one batch of comments before refreshing and having all the new ones clearly marked. Live updates may work for smaller numbers of comments, but with the size of PB's audience under more popular articles, I think I'd quickly lose track of what I have or haven't read.
  • 1 0
 @bananowy: I'm sure at that point they could implement a "toggle automatic updates off" and then it keeps everyone happy! or even a "click to see more comments" if more comments are added when you're reading Smile
  • 3 1
 My favorite episode yet, because it actually showed who is good and stylish on a bike.
  • 4 3
 I watch these at 1.75 speed. It is not that they are bad. They are not. There is just so much wasted space that speeding them up cuts through all of that.
  • 3 0
 Pinkbike. Please release/post the entire one min vids!!
  • 3 3
 Pro tip. The best GoPro angle is by holding the camera between your teeth. Well an ocular implant is probably better but pro mountain bikers aren't making that much coin.
  • 1 0
 Why didn't you just put them on a whole bunch of Grim Donuts? And what happened to the grim donut?
  • 1 0
 Anyone else notice the fly on Jason's head during eliminations? It stuck around forever.
  • 1 0
 At the end they should have a 5 stage enduro and winner takes all simple as that’s what everyone wants
  • 1 0
 The most important skill of being a pro-rider is to be fast. This challenge should be all about racing.
  • 1 0
 This is so tacky! I want to enjoy it, i honestly do, but its just so... bah
  • 2 2
 I hope Ben will win. The guy is a talented rider and I’d like seeing I’m in the EWS
  • 1 0
 finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 Nice one Smile getting down to the wire. Good luck !
  • 1 0
 Not enough star wipes.

Why eat hamburger when we you can have steak?
  • 7 7
 The music ruined all four for me Frown
  • 1 1
 At least they bought back old contestants
  • 6 8
 Each episode more painful than the last. Sigh.
  • 7 9
 i stopped watching it it after episode 3 its embarrassing. still come here to give it some grief tho because well ive got nothing better to do with my life than complain about... anything i can find..
  • 2 0
 @waxed: lol
  • 3 1
 @waxed: I've watched every episode. I love the concept and I love pretty much all of Pinkbike's content. I want it to succeed. But this is so cheesy and cringey in all the wrong ways.
  • 1 0
 @Grimes1405: exactly!
I want it not to suck... i watch it, but it makes me cringe too much with those over the top endorsements and cheesy contests.
  • 1 4
 yeah right, all pros know how to edit and take photo
  • 16 2
 It's 2020... if you want to be a pro rider, you need these skills. They're not that hard to learn. And if you're a rider working with a professional filmer or photographer, knowing a bit about what they're doing will go miles in delivering a better result faster.
  • 1 12
flag waxed (Dec 3, 2020 at 13:01) (Below Threshold)
 @PeterWojnar: yep well known fact editing skills make you go faster!
  • 1 0
 @PeterWojnar: Being a pro back in the day was much easier. Just go out train, crush a race then go home and chill. Now they gotta post daily on SM with inspirational quotes etc.That sounds more exhausting than riding.
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