Tom Bradshaw races Psychosis, one of the gnarliest, steepest, and longest DH tracks around, on his trusty hardtail as an ode to the original hardtail class. Can his hands and legs hold on long enough to make it to the bottom? Watch and find out.
Not a permanent solution, but if you're on pc, install ublock to your browser, right click and press hide element, theres still a white bar, but at least there isnt the fekin logo
@brianpark - time for a podcase update on how many promises the corporate overlords have already broken...but seriously, this Outside+ tag deserves at least a PR...do Trailforks subscribers get this shit grandfathered? What if you already subscribe to Beta and Trailforks...now we need to subscribe to this to get two things we already pay for?
For what it's worth, I was a moderator on this site, and had been given Plus membership for life after leaving the team. When outside+ was announced, I lost my plus status.
No beef as I didn't use it for anything anyway, but it did really explain the situation to me.
So much for my lifetime Trailforks Pro membership... I like the guys at PB, especially having met a few of them, I just think the sale of the company and it's fallout is a poor representation of the staff at Pinkbike. The character of those people doesn't seem to match this business model, and neither does the community it relies on.
The whole thing is just wrong and kinda sad.
Nothing on mobile, just checked the laptop.. Man it just looks so wrong. Guess they'll slowly be conforming us over to the dark side. That's just sad to see.
Just don't click it. Clicks are counted and don't let them think we are interested in it. The more you click, the sooner they will do more "improvements".
I did have a lot of time of free Plus membership, sorry if that came off as whining. My point is that Pinkbike as a company kept me as a Plus member, for whatever reason they did. Props to them. That has been removed since ownership changed. The shift in priorities is my point.
For what it's worth, Pinkbike, thank you for the great years. There's a reason I'm still here.
This man just displayed for you his fine set of rhinoceros balls by tackling this heroic DH feat and you came here to chatter about website sh*t? Shame on you, save your internet nerd remarks for the countless component reviews nobody cares about.
I just noticed GAIA mapping is owned by Outside. I just used their free GPS map app wheeling last weekend. I still don't subscribe to much beyond phone, water, gas/electric, and garbage pickup. Fvkn dinosaur.
I could give a rip about Outside, but they own Pinkbike now. Businesses exist & all of you depend on them and make money...or are you living on mommy & daddy's trust fund?
As long as PB rips - which it still does - most of us who don't melt in rain or lose their flower petals over petty ownership will stay. PB is a great biz-model with cult following, and I doubt Outside wants to lose it. And given how much pollution & horror is generated by our bikes & its products and how many mega-millions are spent in development, raw materials, plastics, tape, cardboard, & petro to wrap & ship them in - and the 1000's of unseen profiteering pathways our bike gear gets to us online & in shops - that none of you seem to be bitching about those money makers. Have you seen carbon plant pollution or 16-hour work-day slaves in China? You don't want to - and you would ride anyway even if you did.
Bitching about Pinkbike is low hanging fruit picked by short people who like low hanging fruit. Never heard such safe-space, precious flower, fake-cult BS in my life. If ya think PB staff & content has sold out then get the f*ck offa here and leave it to those of us who still like it.
Buncha whining B's...Effin' please, with your fake morals and ethics over who owns PB. Pure hypocrisy and petty complaints
@wildmeff: In theory yes, but that's not actually what we're talking about here. If I don't give Outside some of my money, I don't get to use the product I've already paid PinkBike for.
So more money in this case = the only way to keep the product I've already bought.
@duncanstrohnd: Totally curious - what product did you pay PB for that you no longer have access to? I didn't know that was a thing. I have TF Pro ($18 / yr or...$1.50/month)... not an Outside member but still using it. Just curious what ya mean...musta missed the post on that.
@Mtn-Goat-13: I'm the same as you - I have TF Pro at the same early adopter rate (mine may have been a one time fee, I can't remember). I can still use it for now, but it was stated in the Outside buyout that Trailforks would be bundled into their Outside+ subscription. When that's actually going to happen I'm not sure, but that is apparently the intent here.
I get that it's business, I work in digital marketing and have been involved with many business decisions like this.
I'm not bothered by the amount of money, it's not much. My objection is being told how this is better for me and the wider community when it quite clearly is not. For Pinkbike's community, the merger with Outside offers no more value, but adds more cost, which is being justified by access to a collection of content unrelated to mountain biking that most won't appreciate.
@duncanstrohnd: I had TF free then when it was $18/yr, so maybe that initial offer locked it in at that for those subscribers? Anyway - from what I know (could be wrong) you don't have to buy into outside+ or anything to get it - can just subscribe & be done. Same w/ BETA Mag ($26/yr). Am also not into all the other stuff Outside may offer but some of it looks fine - training, Warren Miller library - but honestly - not interested.
Will be coming to PB for sure unless Outside totally tanks it & turns it soft. I'm thinking that since PB is so cult tho they'll wanna keep it like it is. Mostly though, all the gripers are making it crap now vs. anything Outside's doing - even if they do just wanna sell sport & "wellness". I don't have to buy that but the s***-stain of never-ending precious flower complaints already smells to hi heaven. Its fine to just stop coming here or move to other "rad" PB alternates...whatever those are.
@Mtn-Goat-13: I don't see myself running to an alternative - PB's news and product coverage is just fine, and the community is right here too. I guess if the community goes elsewhere I'd follow? Not sure though.
In any case, the alarmists can be annoying, you're right. I suppose I've added my voice to that too. I get the sentiment and anger though. PB was this amazing little Canadian outfit out of Squamish with great personality and what felt like a soul. Now it's just a branch office of a larger conglomerate from....? I don't know where Outside is from, or if that's just some shell entity to collect outdoorsy brands under an umbrella. Either way, it feels very faceless, and I hope the same thing doesn't happen to PB.
Maybe it's a Canadian thing - many of us still bristle at the Tim Horton's story - Brazilian food conglomerate RBI bought Tim Hortons in 2014, slashed food quality and raised prices to the consumer and now sells what was bonafide Canadiana back to Canadians at lower quality for higher prices while claiming to be so f*cking Canadian. It's insulting.
So yeah I get the angst - at the end of the day it would have been nice to see PB continue independently, but it's not the way of the world. Success attracts bigger fish.
@castlemtn: haha a had a Brodie freeride hardtail. 2.6 tires and all. It was heavy and bombproof. Man I can't imagine riding my old kula down that. That's metal.
@makripper: running a fork with more travel than the head tube was designed for created some nice stress fractures and the BB junction also cracked. i learned quick and got me a stinky-dlux.... way better...then eventually an ellsworth DH bike. WAY better
@leelau: “Yes! Foredeen fifty-won, sub fivdeen!” (my understanding that’s 14:51) is what Tom exclaimed at the end of the video. I couldn’t find that anyone else ride in the hardtail class this year. Therefore Tom is the alien overlord?!
Nice work Tom. That's one of the best tracks to take a DH bike to, so that probably means one of the worst for a HT. Being only 3:26 behind the winner is solid AF. Nice to see the road gap was back for the race. Hopefully they leave it there!
@Tombrad: I don't know how you managed! I've told many people that it's the best DH track in the world, and when they ask why I say one of the reasons is because you use all of your suspension, all of the time. Generally that's a little bit of a hyperbolic statement, but in your case you most definitely were!
Ive done quite a few 7 laps and raced it but would never consider riding it on a HT. Conditions looked choice but still wouldn't on a ht.Props for that alone and sub 15min on a ht is one sick lap. Chapeau sir
First of all - Jebus H Tom - what a glorious bomb down a trail many of us couldn't match time on full sus. His excitement is contagious, he rips, and who wouldn't wanna ride or hang with Tom? Had to watch this about 3 times
Second - what an honor for Tom to have the 1st & most upvoted comment be a sub-teen, snowflake, whining, B****-fest comment about having seen an Outside+ banner / button. Oh boo hoo hoo hoo effin' hoo !!!
"Hey Tom welcome to PB Tom (and Henry) - here, let us swamp your banger HT Psychosis ride content with irrelevant high-school complaints about PB ownership because THAT'S what matters to us". What a bunch of pathetic ghouls - you mock MTB, Tom, and the long hours it actually takes to make content like this with your never-ending gripes about petty nonsense.
You should just leave PB instead of urinating all over it - it's actually what makes the site suck - not the staff, Outside ownership, or the content.
Tom you absolute lunatic to attempt that not only with no rear suspension but no gloves and it looks like no pads at all on your upper body either! Fair play for maintaining the cheerful commentary all the way, down as well. This sort of enthusiasm is what mountain biking should be all about!
@Tombrad Top steep section? - Yep, well played. On a hard tail? - we've all made questionable decisions. Cables rattling on the number board? - 100% a bit of an irritation. Not making the horror climb? - sad for you mate. Flappy watch strap for 14 minutes and 51 seconds? - There's something seriously wrong with you.
I didn't full appreciate just how tough this course was until I watched the other video with a course walkthrough. Riding this with the drops, gaps and chunk on a hardtail is quite an achievement! Well done Tom!
Also just to further stir the pot. The current Pinkbike+ seems more to target those businesses that use the pinkbike buy and sell as their online sales platform. Seems reasonable on both sides to require some sort of cost for having that volume of sales go through the website.
Pretty sure when I lived in Canmore (2003/4/5) the boyfriend of this chick I worked with at the Drake finished second on a hardtail...not sure what frame he was riding, but I'm fairly certain he had a Monster T on the thing
Thanks for having us! it's worth a huge shout-out to the Golden Cycling Club who got permission and built that road gap the day before the race and had to take it down afterwards! Couldn't not hit it!
Best way to describe trails in B.C.
Crazy. We have this thing for crazy. It's gnar with some more gnar served with a fresh slice of gnar.
I love crazy.
"This is the gnarliest race of all time". So I'm going to race a hardtail with Sram brakes, Schwalbe's, no gloves, and bars with no rise. Wouldn't catch me doing this on a trail bike with that spec.
Meh. There used to be a whole hardtail category. Disappointing to see soo much PSYCHOSIS marketing spew, while not paying homage to the original event, and making it an open race.
While Crankworx may have raced down Mount 7 using the race track, whatever event took place this weekend was decidedly not the real "Mt. 7 Psychosis"
@freestyIAM: I think in the brains of these really consistent sh*tposters it's possible that complaining about a thing is a form imagining themselves doing a thing better than the original target of their ire, and in turn is the same as actually doing said thing. Like, in this guys brain he put on a race and it was better and everyone loved him.
Maybe that's too deep. It's possible that he's just a prick.
@radek: any results with times from back then? Itd be interesting to compare to all the current times. Some hilarious set ups back then i conveniently forgot
Yup. It's a crankworx invite only thingy. Not at all like the original. Same track but very different events. I think there were almost 200 racers when I raced it.
It would be awesome if it came back in earnest though.
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Pinkbike, please continue to be pinkbike. We come here for pinkbike, not outside+.
No beef as I didn't use it for anything anyway, but it did really explain the situation to me.
@MikeyMT: his new employer will love it
1. Install the Code Injector extension
2. Add a new rule for www\.pinkbike\.com
3. Add this in the CSS tab: #outside-header { display: none; }
But... I don't actually mind the menu that much. If it sponsors more Pinkbike content then it's fine. Something's got to pay the bills.
As long as PB rips - which it still does - most of us who don't melt in rain or lose their flower petals over petty ownership will stay. PB is a great biz-model with cult following, and I doubt Outside wants to lose it. And given how much pollution & horror is generated by our bikes & its products and how many mega-millions are spent in development, raw materials, plastics, tape, cardboard, & petro to wrap & ship them in - and the 1000's of unseen profiteering pathways our bike gear gets to us online & in shops - that none of you seem to be bitching about those money makers. Have you seen carbon plant pollution or 16-hour work-day slaves in China? You don't want to - and you would ride anyway even if you did.
Bitching about Pinkbike is low hanging fruit picked by short people who like low hanging fruit. Never heard such safe-space, precious flower, fake-cult BS in my life. If ya think PB staff & content has sold out then get the f*ck offa here and leave it to those of us who still like it.
Buncha whining B's...Effin' please, with your fake morals and ethics over who owns PB. Pure hypocrisy and petty complaints
Must have hit the wrong one.
So more money in this case = the only way to keep the product I've already bought.
I get that it's business, I work in digital marketing and have been involved with many business decisions like this.
I'm not bothered by the amount of money, it's not much. My objection is being told how this is better for me and the wider community when it quite clearly is not. For Pinkbike's community, the merger with Outside offers no more value, but adds more cost, which is being justified by access to a collection of content unrelated to mountain biking that most won't appreciate.
Will be coming to PB for sure unless Outside totally tanks it & turns it soft. I'm thinking that since PB is so cult tho they'll wanna keep it like it is. Mostly though, all the gripers are making it crap now vs. anything Outside's doing - even if they do just wanna sell sport & "wellness". I don't have to buy that but the s***-stain of never-ending precious flower complaints already smells to hi heaven. Its fine to just stop coming here or move to other "rad" PB alternates...whatever those are.
In any case, the alarmists can be annoying, you're right. I suppose I've added my voice to that too. I get the sentiment and anger though. PB was this amazing little Canadian outfit out of Squamish with great personality and what felt like a soul. Now it's just a branch office of a larger conglomerate from....? I don't know where Outside is from, or if that's just some shell entity to collect outdoorsy brands under an umbrella. Either way, it feels very faceless, and I hope the same thing doesn't happen to PB.
Maybe it's a Canadian thing - many of us still bristle at the Tim Horton's story - Brazilian food conglomerate RBI bought Tim Hortons in 2014, slashed food quality and raised prices to the consumer and now sells what was bonafide Canadiana back to Canadians at lower quality for higher prices while claiming to be so f*cking Canadian. It's insulting.
So yeah I get the angst - at the end of the day it would have been nice to see PB continue independently, but it's not the way of the world. Success attracts bigger fish.
I'll just ride my bike thanks.
"I have my brakes just fully on! Yee-haw! What a treat!" - good on ya'!
As far as we're concerned there are three accents to the english language: James Bond, Steve Irwin, and Canadian.
Maybe @tombrad can do "Steve Irwin" new time he does a ride video.
Hardtails (from 2008 ) dirtmountainbike.com/news/kovarik-wins-mount-psychosis.html
1 164 Phelps, Kevin Chromag 15:12.8
2 90 Lumley, Trevor 16:35.6
3 166 Ritz, Ian 17:58.3
I'm having trouble finding this years hardtail category results. Bravo regardless!
Nice to see the road gap was back for the race. Hopefully they leave it there!
1) Tom rips
2) Pinkbike (under outside +) encourages skidding ALL THE TIME
Second - what an honor for Tom to have the 1st & most upvoted comment be a sub-teen, snowflake, whining, B****-fest comment about having seen an Outside+ banner / button. Oh boo hoo hoo hoo effin' hoo !!!
"Hey Tom welcome to PB Tom (and Henry) - here, let us swamp your banger HT Psychosis ride content with irrelevant high-school complaints about PB ownership because THAT'S what matters to us". What a bunch of pathetic ghouls - you mock MTB, Tom, and the long hours it actually takes to make content like this with your never-ending gripes about petty nonsense.
You should just leave PB instead of urinating all over it - it's actually what makes the site suck - not the staff, Outside ownership, or the content.
Tom seems like a decent fellow (ok chap). I'd even peer over the fence and start a conversation if we were neighbours. Smile
EDIT: He has great cheery commentary during the downhill.
Winning time on a hard tail in 2008 was 15:12.80
And that's why I'm keeping my Meta HT - they can do (just about) anything.
Be great to get a full bike check.
Top stuff.
nice one. cheers
While Crankworx may have raced down Mount 7 using the race track, whatever event took place this weekend was decidedly not the real "Mt. 7 Psychosis"
Maybe that's too deep. It's possible that he's just a prick.
www.pinkbike.com/video/14830
I am a prick, but did race the actual psychosis event.
Just seems like a little invite-only posse freelap race with gopro's and a drone hardly lives up to the grandiose original Mount 7 Psychosis event.
No. It was an open race. Anyone could register and show up and race against Sam Hill and all the other big pro's. Same day, same track.
Yup. It's a crankworx invite only thingy. Not at all like the original. Same track but very different events. I think there were almost 200 racers when I raced it.
It would be awesome if it came back in earnest though.