Seriously.. what is with the compulsory snarky garbage people do now like this now.
Fair comment to PB from a user that they’d like more photo based bike checks.
The “Hope you find some with the cheeky smiley” was seriously rude. The original comment matters the dismissal reply does not.
I don’t care about positive or negative props so do whatever if anything. I just wanted to point this out because fair criticism shouldn’t be dismissed with passive aggressive sarcasm.
@daugherd: ehh it’s just frustrating to work hard putting out more traditional photo bike checks than ever before, plus add these videos, and get chirped at for it. I think Tom crushed it on this.
@daugherd: i mean, pinkbike users are known to critique everything so I get how they'd have the attitude of like ugh, whatever, but personally I think this is a really valid critique. I guess video allows the riders to talk about their bikes, but I liked the articles so I could get a quick view of each bike and look at the cool ones for longer. A video feels like more commitment and harder to view, even if you can skip around.
@brianpark I know you need clicks - how about a slide show? I'm hardly a fan of those either but at least I can work my way through them at my own pace. And no disrespect to Tom!
@brianpark: Why is it " just frustrating to work hard putting out more traditional photo bike checks than ever before" Not chirping, but curious. I love the videos, but appreciate that photos are easier to examine in public if you don't have headphones, etc.
@daugherd: Is it even fair criticism, when it's just plain wrong? Video bike checks are by far the minority of bike check content. The past week + of bike check content has been articles. And yet people have the audacity to think that the "good old times" of just a few hours before is somehow all fair criticism, and a snarky response is seriously rude? JFC.
@brianpark: the videos are great. PB video content is the best it has ever been! However, not everyone can view a video in public / at work. I believe this is all he meant by that. Likewise, I opened it at work and went - "ah damn a video." I will watch it later though!
I have to admit I very rarely watch videos and rarely open articles with titles starting with "video".
I do appreciate and enjoy a well made video, but I find written articles easier to process at my own pace. I can view the whole contents at a glance, start anywhere, skip/skim some passages, concentrate more on others, compare different sections etc.
Obviously I refer to methods of conveying information - it would be hard to translate a purely riding video into an article
Agreed! Gotta say other than riding video's I'd rather read an article and peruse photos as time permits. (OR sometimes stare for hours while drooling on my keyboard at some $12,000 build, ya know. One of those)
ALTHOUGH, obviously it's hard to capture some of the "flavor" you get with these kinds of interviews and i do appreciate what goes into them!
Be great if they could snap a still and do a couple sentences beneath for each bike too...? Just sayin...
@brianpark: I hear you with the frustration but I don’t think people say the video is low quality or understating the work put into. The audience is just saying what their preferred format is. I don’t think it is warranted or appropriate to disparage the comment because of that, especially if you’re a stakeholder in the organization.
Listen to the audience or not just don’t engage with unless the objective is productive.
@brianpark: tough crowd, can't believe how much you got downvoted. comment was hidden below threshold and I was like, wtf did he say to deserve that? then I saw it and just laughed. def don't let it ruin your day.
@brianpark: welcome to the generation of ungrateful deadbeats bud lol. People complain about everything these days bud can never please them all, so f*ck em!!
@daugherd: Are you kidding me, Brian Park actually put up a happy face smile, not a snarky face and added a link to as many photo based bike checks as you could want. Get a friggin grip on life, he mearly contributed to someones request in a generous way.
Don’t know how I stack up compared to the masses, but I come here for articles and photos. I’ll go to YouTube if I want to each videos. Almost never watch any of these.
@woofer2609: He didn’t say it was hard putting up more traditional photo bike check than before. He said it was hard doing that, and then getting criticism that they’re not doing it.
Some of you complaining you can’t open videos at work — aren’t you supposed to be working, anyway? Time to lean, time to clean. Get back at it!
Nah - some articles, I agree, are way better with text and photos - but this one was great meeting the people as well. Loved it, and I usually am totally with you Caiokv
What!? You can really ride the shore on a 26er bike with an aluminum frame, without a water bottle holder, with a steep head angle and a slack seat tube? They probably weren’t really having fun.
Well we can all remember, as we straddle the plastic tubes of our 8k super bike, we will never be able to forget some dude is out there shredding a plod from '06 harder than we ever could.
Yup....if this doesn’t confirm that the marketing shites and MTB bike industry as a whole has no idea what’s going on in the real world then you’re a yuppie chump with more money than sense.
@NikolaiB: I ran into a guy on the trail on a 96 or so 26" rockhopper. I let him try my sentier for a while while I rode the artifact. It had bar ends, everything. He said he wanted to get a new bike. I was glad to get mine back!
@freeriderayward: perfect assessment, again. My friends who are on the outside looking in, have actively commented on how overcooked MTB messaging/marketing is. It's a bit embarrassing actually. But at least the bikes aren't ugly garbage anymores.
If you do the dogs. A question for the owner is if they leave the turd, bag the turd and leave it trailside, bag it and carry it out? Then ask to see the bag they brought. Assuming they are good trail dog owners The number of fails might surprise you.
Good picks on bikes! A lot of fun looking stuff. Glad they skipped over 90% of the bikes they probably saw which were less than a year old, top build spec, trail/enduro bikes that you usually see on the shore.
Agreed. While this approach doesn’t necessarily show what’s trending all that well, it is certainly much more interesting to see bikes that have had considerable parts swaps done to them (and get the reasoning why), as well as finding the kinds of riders that stand out from the crowd for one reason or another.
Guess that depends when you show up to the parking lot. My experience tell me the bikes in the video are fairly representative of the bikes i have seen in the lot on the shore. I usually at a lot between 8 am and 9:30 am on weekends and see all sorts of bikes, and 90% are not brand new and less than one year old bikes. But that could be true for other times of day or of the week when I am not there.
next time do the interview at the end of a crazy sketch section of a trail so we can see how the riders do it on these bikes! Plus the riders will be stoked (or super bummed) to do the interview.
funny the amount of shame and explaining people need to do about a couple year old bike. This industry is amazing at making people feel guilty for not having the latest or greatest. Not that tom was being judgmental at all, just funny how many times people have to explain that unprovoked.
Hah! So true. When my Devinci Dixon gets a “nice bike” from the kids I half think they’re joking. Most bikes around here are of the latest/greatest variety.
"The bicycle industry is an ultra competitive industry which seeks to constantly renew itself, and that renders this industry sick at pushing too much our consumption"
@arrowheadrush front brake if you only get one, It does the lions share of slowing you down. But I had to re-evaluate my habits of mostly front braking when I heard a racer from New Zealand uses only his rear one 90% of the time. Better for redirecting versus slowing .
I had the same thought on the choice. One pedal/crank would be rough going uphill, and difficult downhill. Brake wouldn't matter uphill, and be much less frustrating than only one crank/pedal downhill.
I like content like this. Would be cool to see you guys up here in Calgary and in between as there are such different climits between Vancouver and here.
@Tombrad: i second the calgary comment the trailheads were packed this summer and I saw some absolutley beauty rigs. the folks out in Golden would also probably produce some quality content too see what people are riding down mount 7 these days.
I think these 'what are the locals riding' features are great. Unfortunately they are always focused on the pacific northwest. Bikes are being ridden all over the world in every type of condition - how about seeing what's being ridden in Alberta, Wisconsin, Cali, UK, Switzerland, Australia, etc...
C'mon back out to Chilliwack anytime. Old bikes from the Shore don't die, they just ride shuttle laps of Vedder until they get stolen and end up downtown towing a trailer full of cans to the depot. See the great thing about aluminum frames is that eventually, even if they don't get recycled, they will end up contributing to the recycling industry.
The Norco looks like it has a crack at the rocker pivot on the seattube, at 7:51 and 8:18 there is a dark line visible. Stay save and keep these old bikes rolling.
@tombrad that was great! So cool to see you at Pinkbike, now I can brag that I know a PB presenter. You got to come back to the Island and finally ride and make a video. Awesome job man well deserved
Come to Corte De Madiera, aka Skeggs, for your next bike check. Nothing but Santa Cruzes. Or better yet, for variety, come to Almaden Quicksilver - better diversity there.
This was great! Cool to see everyone so stoked to get out and ride! What a variety of bikes. You really get a sense of the owners pride in their ride with these videos
@Tombrad: Well, Jason Lucas went to spider mtn(hill), so you should go to the Fort Worth area, Gateway park, Samson trail, Northshore trail. Let me know if you do end up going.
@ricochetrabbit: yeah, I'm analog all the way. Pedal up to pedal down. Not a big fan of how ebikes are changing the sport. Just keeping a pulse on it, cause N. Shore is generally a precursor for where the rest of the biking world will be in a few years (as far as trends).
Honestly, I don't understand the "timestamp" thing for short videos. Unless it's maintenance with content that doesn't apply to your scenario or it's an epic docudramedy over 30 minutes or so. What are you going to skip to in 14 minutes?
Video had a nice feelgood-vibe. Thanks!
Seriously.. what is with the compulsory snarky garbage people do now like this now.
Fair comment to PB from a user that they’d like more photo based bike checks.
The “Hope you find some with the cheeky smiley” was seriously rude. The original comment matters the dismissal reply does not.
I don’t care about positive or negative props so do whatever if anything. I just wanted to point this out because fair criticism shouldn’t be dismissed with passive aggressive sarcasm.
Not chirping, but curious.
I love the videos, but appreciate that photos are easier to examine in public if you don't have headphones, etc.
I do appreciate and enjoy a well made video, but I find written articles easier to process at my own pace. I can view the whole contents at a glance, start anywhere, skip/skim some passages, concentrate more on others, compare different sections etc.
Obviously I refer to methods of conveying information - it would be hard to translate a purely riding video into an article
ALTHOUGH, obviously it's hard to capture some of the "flavor" you get with these kinds of interviews and i do appreciate what goes into them!
Be great if they could snap a still and do a couple sentences beneath for each bike too...? Just sayin...
Listen to the audience or not just don’t engage with unless the objective is productive.
Some of you complaining you can’t open videos at work — aren’t you supposed to be working, anyway? Time to lean, time to clean. Get back at it!
Christina is amazing, but people seem to get shy around her because she's so clearly a rock star. They drink tea with Tom, but selfies with Christina
He said he wanted to get a new bike. I was glad to get mine back!
Plus it’s a Norco extravaganza in the video, so my Range will fit right in!
"The bicycle industry is an ultra competitive industry which seeks to constantly renew itself, and that renders this industry sick at pushing too much our consumption"
www.velovert.com/news/11995/xprezo-a-cesse-son-activite
Xprezo was making steel MTBs in Quebec.
But I had to re-evaluate my habits of mostly front braking when I heard a racer from New Zealand uses only his rear one 90% of the time.
Better for redirecting versus slowing .
why don't they do a video interview
with a normal photo(s)/ info for the bikes below
Come do a bike check south of the border here in Seattle. Check out the Tiger MTN / Raging River & Duthie Hill trail heads.
Ok Mr. multiple bikes in the stable lol
0:33 Santa Cruz Megatower
1:15 Nukeproof Reactor
1:54 Ellsworth Something
2:15 Eminent Haste
2:37 NEXXT
3:30 Strider rigid
4:15 Onewheel
4:32 Segway
11:40 dog takes a shit