Video: Wyn Masters Catches Up with Yoann Barelli to Discuss the Grim Donut, Bike Designs, Garbage Collection & More

Feb 3, 2021
by Wyn Masters  


Was great to catch up again with my friend and the wild man that is Yoann Barelli my first two time guest for Wyn or Lose Podcast, to discuss what he learnt about bike geometry and design from riding the Grim Donut and his recent move to Guerrilla Gravity Bikes, also his garbage clean ups and then dig in to the dark topic of doping for a moment, and finally touch on how he sees the sport and sponsorship model currently.

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68 Comments
  • 49 1
 what a gem to the world. thanks for the interview Wyn and Yoann! made my day
  • 41 6
 Yoann is such a cool dude.
  • 32 2
 I want to downvote who downvoted this
  • 16 0
 The Remy story had me in stitches
  • 1 2
 what's this story about?
  • 1 0
 So funny!
  • 3 0
 I guess i should have listen!
  • 7 0
 Yoann should serve to help people understand the whole "youtuber vs pro-rider" thing. He is fast, but not the fastest out there. Still, he's so entertaining, that sponsoring him is money well spent for any brand.
  • 3 0
 It's like any sport...the chosen few have the natural talent, physique, dedication and also luck that puts them on top...Yoann has all those things and we thank him for laying it all on the line!!
  • 1 0
 He's in the top 99.9 percentile man.
"Fastest" doesn't mean anything at the end Smile you are fastest one year, then next one you are not.
  • 1 0
 @danbgbg: Fastest until someone beats your time...endless cycle of being on the ragged edge of perfection!!
  • 8 1
 Wyn, sell some shirts with the pod logo on them it looks noice!
  • 8 0
 And make them in a good soize
  • 16 0
 @jimoxbox: good soize ones coming first
  • 3 0
 Barels Mondraker in 2009. Last mega custom. Also South Africa had and interesting one for Steve Smith which became their enduro bike.
  • 8 0
 IIRC UCI rules state that all race bikes must be put into production within a certain period of time - I see this as the stumbling block to one off bikes. Maybe Enduro is different tho. I would love to see more one off bikes as it would help push things forward.
  • 8 1
 @fartymarty: the Athertons must be getting close to that time limit.

I imagine there is a big difference between technically in production and actually available for sale. Anyone else remember the old Group B rally cars that in theory had to have a minimum production run available to the public to buy!
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 @CM999: I guess the Athertons bikes have always been available for sale.
  • 2 0
 @fartymarty: I think the rule is after 12 months a prototype product must be available to the public, or can no longer be used. So you can use a proto bike for a whole year, but then it must be available to buy or you can't use it anymore.

Apparently this is why the Cannondale DH program stopped, as they could no longer use the proto bike, and weren't ready or planning to offer it for sale.
  • 1 0
 @melonhead1145: Got ya. So it should benefit smaller companies who are making metal bikes as they can be turned into production bikes at a lesser cost.
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: Yeah I think the reason we see less one offs is that most bikes are carbon these days. Also possible that bikes are just much better now so standard bikes suit for a lot more tracks
  • 1 0
 There was first batch of Atherton bikes available to the public some time ago so technically they fulfilled the requirement... I guess. They use the same suspension design but with manufacturing procedure that allows such great customization, where do you draw a line beetween production and prototype? Because if they go grim donut geomerty thats a whole new bike in my eyes as the change would be much more noticeable than some suspension tweeak...
  • 1 0
 @winko: I would argue that an Atherton with GD geo is still the same bike as the frame layout is the same and it's available to the public for sale... It's an interesting one tho.
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: Agree, as long as the frame is the same, I think angle changes are ok.
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: which is why you see intense do that still
  • 1 0
 @melonhead1145: I wonder how producing 1 off bikes for a specific race sits with the whole notion of reducing the environmental impact of the sport?
  • 2 1
 @CM999: not good I would say. Most riders would use one bike for the whole season unless they break ot catastrophically. If you made a custom Grim Donut for the Chile EWS and only used it for one race, one year, then it's pretty wasteful.
  • 5 0
 @CM999: Headset cup with different angle set, increasing or decreasing the reach, Different point for the rear wheel, increasing or decreasing chain stay length, travel adjust bike and more... Using the same frame Wink
  • 2 0
 @yoannbarelli: you mean like specialised have done with the stumpy evo where you don’t even need different chain stays
  • 1 0
 @yoannbarelli: after the GD video and then GG, I knew angleset cups were coming. The perfect platform.
  • 1 0
 @CM999: Or Nicolai / Geometron with the G1 and the mutators.

@yoannbarelli It will be interesting to see where you get to with GG. Are you planning to do some videos to document the changes / deveopment?
  • 1 0
 @melonhead1145: so you move the water bottle mounts 1mm. BOOM! new prototype!
  • 2 0
 Great Pod Cast. Love the ideas and perspectives these bring. Please keep'm coming!
  • 3 0
 It must have been "HARD" for Remy to race that day.
  • 3 0
 Missed his opportunity for a sponsorship from Pole.
  • 2 3
 Not a fan of the idea of one off bikes - only the companies with huge budgets would do any good. All for testing different ideas through the season and ending up with a formula that is an all mountain/enduro bike (Mr Hill's carbon Mega for example). To me, the enduro rig needs to be good in many different terrains.
  • 1 0
 If a one off bike was any good, it would become production or at least some aspects of that bike would be used in production.
  • 1 0
 Homologation. You had to produce x amount in order to compete with the machine. I have had some HRC motorcycles that were just that. Unsure of UCI specs but sounds similar.
  • 1 0
 I'm gonna need the deets on this "hip yoga," as someone coming into strength training later in life, deadlifts, even with minimal weight, destroy my lower back.
  • 3 0
 @wynmasters - I heard a rumour that Aaron Franklin used to embed one of his pubic hairs in every frame he made...
  • 2 0
 @fartymarty: true story mate
  • 2 3
 @wynmasters: it's possibly the most amazing looking frame ever made.

PS - when are you going to lose the Southern Cross and embrace the Union Flag... (I did it many moons ago).
  • 1 0
 that's mine! covered in dust, hanging from the rafters currently, but still intact. need to do a resto one of these years.
  • 7 0
 @fartymarty: Still reppin NZ fully mate
  • 1 0
 @fartymarty: actually, recently taken off the hook & pulled apart on the workshop healing bench. still most of the same bits as that old photo shoot; deliberating a bit of a refresh after years of neglect.
  • 1 0
 @xy9ine: It would be great to see it up and running again. I've got a Keewee Cromo 8 frame hanging in my shed that needs refurbishing. It's similar age to the Lahar.
  • 2 0
 4:05 I could not beliave it, i was FAKING ELL!



Ahahhahahahahahah
  • 1 0
 You guys should make a kid's version of the grim donut... The grom donut???
  • 1 0
 Yoann's laugh looks more and more like Joachim Phoenix's one in Joker! Creepy Big Grin
  • 1 0
 What is the actual wheelbase of a Kangoo, one wonders? And how would it ride downhill, hahaha
  • 1 0
 This is the official YoannNewsNetwork.
  • 1 0
 Love these guys, the dueling accents lol "Laha?" "Lahaa!"
  • 1 0
 Grin donut CS was 450 so pretty ok for today's standards.
  • 3 0
 The 2030 grim donut is gonna have 36" wheels, and 500mil chainstays so beware.
  • 1 0
 Nice !
  • 1 4
 I love Wyn but I don’t know why YB had to bring up that thing with Remy.Just out of nowhere to ridiculise such a true athlete.Why ? In the middle of the whole interview that’s so messed up

Not fair YB.
  • 10 1
 We really like each other with Remy, it's been a good game of us to poke fun at each other because we are so different but somewhat similar haha. We laughed about this story on the phone again today, and we will be filming a bit on Friday together. Cheers
  • 2 0
 @yoannbarelli: alright,thank you
  • 2 5
 I don’t know about that actually.I don’t find it cool,my personal two cents on it.
It seems to me as you were trying to put the lights on the fact that at that time Remy was not very good and his best result to that day would have been a 47th position out of 50 and that viagra put in his drink supposedly
( sarcastically) has helped him get that result. Basically that’s your message in the video. And I don’t think it’s cool not even in between friends. It hints to me more something else and yet something you touched a while ago , the fact that an EWS stage and the emotions you go thru before one are much stronger than what Remy would go thru when filming something in Squamish.
Man it might as well be. But that’s a different animal. And there are 2 different audiences for that. That’s why riding in a competition where you d be judge according to your time is judge differently compared to a video segment where you re judged by the number of views. It is true that lately that has changed drastically in the last 10 years and Remy is one of the guys that has helped this video movement grow so immensely but by no means would it help you YB to ridicule Remy bringing up a joke like that so that the pink biker commenters would see your point ( the fact that an EWS calibre rider would be more skilled ) . Two different animals / two different audiences / almost two different disciplines.

I don’t want to start anything nor to look like I’m against any of you I’m just pointing out the fact that that joke was not a joke and it wasn’t cool.
  • 4 0
 @barbarosza: if they are both laughing about it now, which it seems and Remy joked about it in the YT comments, then I think it would be considered a joke.
  • 2 2
 @wynmasters: fair enough I never saw the YT comments.I was trying my best to troll your work by any means.But I will always speak up.
  • 1 1
 @wynmasters: * I wasn’t
  • 5 0
 @barbarosza: Wow this is a lot of brain work !! Remy went to Rampage 3 times, and he did not just go to rampage, he shredded rampage, He did and still does stuff on his bike that no one else would dare doing. I have the most respect for Remy's carrier. He had the balls to not go the common way and created his own. Bringing funny stories from the past has nothing to do with trying to ridiculise him, it just mean that we are now in a place where we can laugh at things together, and share stories with people.
  • 1 0
 @yoannbarelli: thanks ! I really appreciate your involvement in this. Seriously it mattered a lot for me to hear this .
  • 1 0
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