Video: New 8-Speed Drivetrain, Tools, Tires, Pedals, & Clothing - Across the Pond Beaver

Sep 10, 2020
by Mike Levy  


Worldwide travel restrictions have put an end to tradeshows, but not even a global pandemic can stop the ol' 8-Ball...


Across the Pond Beaver 2020






116 Comments

  • 65 0
 this is some good acting, porn stars are jealous.
  • 39 1
 Don't give Levy any ideas ..
  • 4 2
 @Bailey100: do not do the doughnut!
  • 2 0
 @Bailey100: Mike Jameson Smile
  • 2 0
 Porn is the best. Reminds me of baconator meat sweats.
  • 54 1
 I need to ride where ever he is! All I ever find on the trails here in Denver is bags of dogshit.
  • 4 0
 Not sure I am glad to know this happens other places too.
Why bag it and throw it on the ground???
  • 3 0
 @Tormy: because it's icky.
  • 3 0
 Weirdest ride ever tbh
  • 32 0
 Microshift is kicking some ass, definetely interested in their 10 speed stuff.
  • 6 0
 Its really good
  • 3 0
 Must be selling well. I've been trying to find a complete advent x groupset for 2 months on Jenson but always 1 or 2 items oos.
  • 5 0
 @JayUpNorth: I pieced mine together from universalcycles, worldwidecyclery, and the trek store of all places
  • 4 0
 @JayUpNorth: I just purchased the Advent X groupset from Universal Cycles. Most of it was marked down, I got the whole groupset with the upper tier shifter and cassette for $140!
  • 1 0
 @Jimmy0: shipping to canada is much more expensive. it's much more cost effective to share shipping on one order but thanks
  • 1 0
 @Ksquared13: looks like just continental us shipping, thanks though
  • 1 0
 @JayUpNorth: I can't find derailleurs at the moment. Has anyone found any in stock in the US?
  • 1 0
 @JayUpNorth: universalcycles does ship to canada. I ordered some TRP brakes and a shock pump a couple months. Shipping costs werent too bad and they shipped right away.
  • 1 0
 I did the 8-speed Advent earlier this year. The parts were on discount and with chain the whole thing was $100. The new 8-speed derailleur looks way cheaper. I'd stick with Advent unless the price is way better.

Side question - does anyone know if 9-speed Advent would work with 11-50 cassette. The Box 9-speed cassette looks real tempting.
  • 1 0
 @Jimmy0: Same thing for me. Put it together for the wife and it has been flawless. SRAM and Shimano might want to pay attention... With the prices as low as they are for a great light weight wide range groupset, it makes their prices look outrageous.
  • 1 0
 7-9S will do for me, with a 11-50T cassette.
  • 1 0
 @hardtailparty: its acceptable, my 10 speed Avent X derailleur kept folding the top jockey wheel -chain was metal on metal more often then not out of a rough section. Its a Frankenstein now with a smaller xt jockey wheel. Seems to work better.
  • 2 0
 @Jaykobjay: I rereading..I've got a few hundred miles on mine in the right terrain of Colorado and Arizona with zero issues. I'll keep an eye on the jockey wheel, but so far no problems.
  • 2 0
 Rocky* terrain
  • 1 0
 @Jaykobjay: what does folding the jockey wheel mean?
  • 1 0
 @Jimmy0: Bending the plastic wheel. Folding might be a bit sever, it wasn't tacoed but bending enough that the chain could slip past onto the cage. Then the chain couldn't reset as the jockey wheel was trapping it against the cage.
  • 1 0
 @Jaykobjay: that's what I was imagining I've just never seen that happen. That's nuts. I sent my derailleur in the spokes and bent the cage but that's my only issue so far and that's on me
  • 25 0
 Why do you have to throw the poor Brodie down like that Mike? Such a faithful machine lasting all these years only to be disrespected like that in the name of all that is 'new'?
  • 19 0
 Its a testament to the fact that its indestructible.
  • 6 0
 The 8-Ball is indestructible and prefers to be treated roughly Wink
  • 2 1
 @mikelevy: I bet you own a Gimp suit!
  • 1 0
 @billreilly: Thank you, my wife just walked in and now I need to explain why I was giggling.
  • 22 0
 So I can get 3 drivetrains for the price of 1 Fox outfit...?
  • 10 0
 Yeah, I don't understand why the pants are so expensive.
  • 10 0
 @tacklingdummy: not saying it is worth it, but the “three layer over a membrane” means it is basically gore Tex without the trademark. The price is in line (or even a bit cheaper) than ski gear using similar tech.
  • 6 0
 @Poachninja: Which means it is hugely overpriced.
  • 2 0
 @Poachninja: But even their $100 pants are pricey without all the technology. I'm sure they are good and well made, but seems like the price would be more reasonable for what you get because bmx/motocross pants are way cheaper. The designs of mtb pants and bmx/motocross pants is not so dissimilar just use lighter materials.
  • 11 0
 All I have to say is I'm glad I live somewhere I've never needed to consider buying "triple layer waterproof seamsealed clothing". Are people riding through hurricanes?
  • 11 0
 Just a UK winter.
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: Or PNW. We don't let something as pesky as cold temps and rain stop us from riding. 365!
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: or Welsh 'summer'
  • 12 1
 Am I being snobby when I won't bother with a multitool at all unless it has a chain breaker?
  • 4 0
 not at all. It's a must have for me too.
  • 9 0
 I'm more concerned about the lack of an 8mm hex. I'm ok riding out with no chain but many crank arms, pedals and suspension pivots use an 8 and having one of those come loose ruins the ride down. Not to say a chain breaker isn't a good thing to have but it's not very often I have chain related issues on the trail compared to the other stuff.
  • 1 0
 @thustlewhumber: That appears to be the king of all multitools. I like it.
  • 1 0
 @thustlewhumber: While that looks like a great multi-tool, its out of stock.

Has anyone tried this guy before? it looks pretty cool to me:

www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7P3M9R/?linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Or should I just pony up and get the oneup tool+pump?
  • 2 2
 @hamncheez: one up tool is great BUT it doesn’t have a 8mm hex on it
  • 2 0
 I would guess I use the 4mm, 5mm, T25, and chain breaker more than anything else.
  • 1 3
 Why do you need a chain breaker? Are you not using a quick link? Genuinely curious, not trying to argue.
  • 7 0
 @GBeard: how do you plan to fix a broken chain without a chain tool?
  • 4 0
 @GBeard: I have used the chain breaker to remove the half of the link that isnt disconnected after snapping my chain.
  • 3 3
 @hamncheez I don't think snobby is the right word, but your purchases are misguided. Get a Park Tool CT-5, it's very compact and works miles better than any multitool chain tool I've encountered. Then get whatever multitool suits your other needs.
  • 1 0
 I haven't broken a chain, good point though. When I have had to take my derailleur off though I just took the chain off and coasted down the hill.
  • 4 0
 @ahauck: According to one up's website it does have an 8mm. I haven't used it so I can't verify that.
  • 1 0
 I've used the Park Tool IB3 for the past seven years or so. Does everything I need.

www.parktool.com/product/i-beam-mini-fold-up-with-chain-tool-ib-3
  • 2 0
 @shami @ahauck There is a V2 now
  • 3 0
 @GBeard: I have several chain breaks a year. 200 pounds + loaded up plus crappy technique plus not enough time doing maintenance of my bikes (three kids under age 4)
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: I’m 59 kilos soaking wet, no kids, and anal retentive about maintenance so maybe that explains it.
  • 4 0
 @ahauck: it does have a 8mm, it uses 2 seperate parts to transform into a 8mm.

EDC MULTITOOL SPEC

2, 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8mm Hex
T25 Torx
Flat Head Screwdriver
EDC Top Cap Tool
  • 3 0
 @ahauck: It does, I think the 5mm and the flat screw driver match together to make the 8mm. I have had to use it to tighten a pedal and it works.
  • 2 1
 @hamncheez: I like where your head's at. The OneUp EDC system is cool, but sacrifices multitool functionality to benefit the form factor. For instance, the 8mm wrench is made by combining the flathead screwdriver to the 6mm wrench. Cool, but with high-torque applications (like crank sets) this will introduce play and could damage the bolt head or tool (if you can even get the torque needed). I've also heard the included masterlink breaker is nearly impossible to use in a pinch without watching a youtube video of how to do it.

The Blackburn tool looks pretty comprehensive. The same idea as Fixit Sticks but with a nice looking case. The question is, do you want the function of a tool or the convenience of stashing it on the bike? I've been looking for both for a while now and think I may have settled on Lezyne's "Dual Insert" tools (www.amazon.com/dp/B087W7L2W9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_DIMwFbH1S1946), plus a separate chain breaker for longer rides when I can't bail out on foot (Lezyne also has new masterlink pliers with all the right fixings).

...I swear I don't for for Lezyne, but this tool kit seems to fit my bill and think it might suit you too.
  • 1 0
 delete
  • 1 0
 @BsampSy: Eh, no included chainbreaker, no benefit for a stashable tool. The Blackburn also has a variant with a strap that can hold a tube: www.amazon.com/dp/B07H95M8T1/ref=emc_b_5_t
  • 1 0
 @asmtb: holy shit I’ve had mine they released and never realized. Thanks!
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: fair enough. $45 for everything you need, plus the underseat tool wrap to hold them, is mighty appealing. I have my reasons for liking the stashability of the Lezyne system (mainly bikepacking, but also I'm forgetful), but it is a compromise to have to carry the masterlink pliers if I want a chainbreaker tool.
  • 4 0
 No point in bringing it if it doesn't have a chain tool, right?
  • 1 0
 @BsampSy: Thats well over $100 tho, and you still have to strap your levers and tube somewhere.

Really, I probably should buy some $5 velcro straps, $7 levers, and a $10 crank-bros knockoff multitool and just strap them all to my frame since I have to for my tube anyways
  • 2 0
 @ahauck: The new version 2 EDC Tool has an 8mm hex!
  • 3 0
 @GBeard: Doesn't work so well when you need to go uphill though does it?
  • 2 0
 @dsut4392: You aren't going to go uphill with a broken derailleur, which is what I said I had broke. I haven't broken a chain before. I acknowledged why other people would, but why would I carry a tool for something that hasn't happened to me in over 15 years of riding?
  • 2 0
 Although now that I have typed it on the internet I'm sure it will happen next ride. On the other article about warped DHF EXO tires where I mentioned it hasn't happened to me, I now have a warped DHF. ;(
  • 3 0
 @GBeard: thats fair. If you dont have a history of breaking chains it shouldn't be high on your list of priorities.
  • 6 0
 Comeone dont show me stuff If I cant buy it. This Micro shift stuff for example, give me the 9 speed here in the EU. Or BOX , both are not available to buy , I dont consider a shop who has them maybe in stock in 8 weeks as available TBH.
  • 1 0
 See if you can get box shipped from Moore Large in the UK
  • 1 0
 @DanielP07: awesome, thanks for that!
  • 1 0
 @Serpentras: Alyth Cycles carries stock. Pop them a message on facebook.
  • 9 0
 Marzocchi (Fox) need to release an updated Shiver.
  • 3 0
 It would be an upside down fox 40 performance elite...I'd buy one
  • 7 0
 Because I am too lazy to use google, a list of links to the products reviewed in the video would be appreciated. Nice video. Thank you.
  • 4 0
 Good call. I was too lazy to add that list but yeah, it woulda made sense.
  • 3 1
 I thought was dreaming with the price of that drivetrain. An MTB company offering value for money is a rare thing. On that topic, its amazing how much MTB brands charge for waterproof gear compared to other outdoor sports. Its like double the price.
  • 4 0
 Can we get a huck to flat with the 8-Ball??! I mean skinny hucks to flat are kind of it’s jam right?
  • 1 0
 Highly unlikely haha
  • 2 1
 Mike you dont even know what is smallest hex key. That damned thing we have at work is like .8mm? It costs like set of normal hex keys and brakes even looking at it. Every time we have to order 3 or 4 of them because once you use them theyre lost forever
  • 2 0
 Please no, I don't want to know the smallest haha
  • 1 0
 www.amazon.com/Wiha-35392-Piece-L-Key-Metric/dp/B001ATKWJY - these are really handy, but yeah, better remember where you put them.
  • 5 0
 I struggle to think of a good application for a single sided SPD pedal.
  • 3 0
 Totally agree , and what shoes would you wear ? Flats ? Well then you may as well use flat pedals. SPD shoes ? Has anyone at Funn ever tried using a flat pedal with SPD shoes?! It’s not funn.
  • 1 0
 Bar cruiser!
  • 2 0
 Wanting clipless but not wanting to change pedals or out of your crocs or when riding around the yard with the kids.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: When have you ever wanted to be attached to your bar bike? That's just asking to find yourself wrapped around a fire hydrant.
  • 2 0
 That was nice, Nice to see more options in on bike storage solutions


However Please, put list of reviewed products at the bottom of the video (ideally with timing);
Cheers!
  • 1 0
 That Microshift 8 speed is a game changer. What an easy way to revitalize an old bike. Time to go buy up all the old Norco hardtails
  • 1 0
 Yup, it's going on the ol' 8-Ball!
  • 2 0
 Mr Levy, you're an excellent, entertaining, and well read personality. Keep up the great work
  • 2 1
 I like that E13 tire, and the 8 speed drivetrain. But this video needed the GD, not the 8Ball.
  • 1 0
 how much butane is left from that tire inflation stunt? i think levy took on too many fumes...
  • 1 0
 Hey, I didn't want to waste any butane!
  • 1 0
 THAT BRODIE! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  • 1 0
 How do you tighten a headset with that tool in place?
  • 4 0
 With a hammer.
  • 1 0
 haha. Did you get Thor Wixom to do the score. Otherwise you should.
  • 3 0
 @jasonlucas please hit up Thor Wixom and get him on the team.
  • 1 0
 Are the pants chain proof tho?
  • 1 0
 Mr Levy please do a long term test of the Microshift. Drive train.
  • 1 1
 A single speed 8 speed drivetrain?
  • 1 0
 Tongue-tied!
  • 1 0
 That poor bike
  • 1 0
 It's indestructible, so don't worry Wink
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: some bloke rides a totally pristine one to my local Timmies every morning if you ever need another hook up.
  • 1 0
 I don't like video
  • 5 0
 Me neither
  • 4 5
 Levy is an (inter)national treasure.

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