Video: Vinny T Hunts Down Pristine Bike Park Trails on his eMTB

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MrPulse (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:00)

Haters gonna hate.
He's riding trail, we are typing on a robot.
Looks to me like he is having fun, shredding berms, riding wheelies in the woods. Why do you go biking? Is it to act like you never use technology from your grass hut and your hamster wheel powered pinkbike computer or phone? You're probably tired from all that pedaling so you generate enough watts so you can hate on E-bikes. Are you sweating yet? Oh no, whoops, i'm sorry, that's egg on your face.

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foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:45) (Below Threshold)

I don't think people hate e-bikes just the misinformation about their capabilities and use. But these e-bike marketing stories are not, IMHO, a reflection of the majority of the e-bike market. When PB starts posting stories of middle aged people who ride a few times a month being able to get up trails they would otherwise struggle with, then there will be some truth to the advertising. I have yet to run across an e-biker that shreds or is in the age group of the stories posted on here. I'm not saying those people don't exist. I am saying that the 10 or so e-bikers I've come across in the past two months are nothing like the above professional. Maybe they could disclaim "this professional rider has been compensated and furnished the pictured e-bike."

lastminutetech (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:59)

What would be really cool is if each chair on the lift had a charging station for your e-bike.

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Mullet-Bullet (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:08)

@foggnm: Then you really haven't been looking. I don't own an ebike, but there are some serious shredders out there who spend a lot of time on Ebikes.

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MrPulse (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:15)

@foggnm: I think some people hate E-bikes. The "purist" in them won't allow it.

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drivereight (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:37) (Below Threshold)

Why EBike when you can just ride your Motocross on the trails all day since everyone's inside isolating? You can get 2 Motocross for the price of one EBike.

foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:40)

@Mullet-Bullet: I have no doubt. But I do think they make up a fraction of the true market. Just like enduro racers make up a fraction of the mid/long travel 29er market.

graniteandrew (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:40)

@foggnm: Idk maybe Jill and Brynn, Strobel... PNW low-key knows what's up. lots of Bham heavy hitters on them. Stick to the judging riders on IMBA greens though.

foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:45)

@MrPulse: Well the purist have already lost the war on that one, no matter how you feel about the issue.

foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:55)

@graniteandrew: Is IMBA greens a juice bar in the PNW?

Dustfarter (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:57)

@foggnm: Must be where you live. Where I live there are tons of folks who straight up rip on e-bikes and any other bike for that matter. If you can shred analog you can shred E too.
No to say that there aren't tons of middle aged Joeys out there too

foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:59)

@Dustfarter: Hey if I lived in LA and had to sit in traffic for 2 hours to ride, I'd want an ebike too so I could make it to the top before it got dark.

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ScandiumRider (Jun 3, 2020 at 10:10)

@foggnm: "When PB starts posting stories of middle aged people who ride a few times a month being able to get up trails they would otherwise struggle with, then there will be some truth to the advertising."

Except the problem is you've described the majority of the MTB world in general, not just eMTB. I don't care if you and your buddies are young shredders, you are in the minority of people on the planet buying mountain bikes. If your problem with eMTBs are simply what you feel is not "truth in advertising", then you should have a problem with all MTB ads in general that are not just slow-pokes tooling around in the woods.

Matt115lamb (Jun 3, 2020 at 10:50)

@MrPulse: They all drive a Ford Fintstone with they’re feet dangling out the bottom lol

rockyj (Jun 3, 2020 at 11:24)

watch duncan shaws vlogs, danny macs been on his ebike ever since his heckler vid

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deco1 FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 12:24) (Below Threshold)

@foggnm: Probably one of the best comments I’ve seen on here. I agree most e-bikers are usually 40 and I’ve never seen one of them shred. Then we see a video of Vinny T and all the e-bike kissasses are like look how good they are, even though Vinny was probably riding at about 10% of what he could do. So if you take someone who is average already and drop there level by 90% of courses there going to be crap.

Dustfarter (Jun 3, 2020 at 15:19)

@foggnm: Lol! Too true

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Doema (Jun 3, 2020 at 16:09)

@foggnm: so your opinion is based on the "10 or so e-bikers" that you have come across. Not exactly a large sample size to make a blanket statement about the entire emtb segment. Newsflash, the rippers that are sending it on ebikes are out there and growing. Marketing is marketing, 80-90% of the people you see on enduro bikes can't ride anything close to 100% of the marketing you see. Isn't this the same exact "misinformation" you are complaining about?

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ranke (Jun 3, 2020 at 17:36)

@foggnm: you clearly don't live in the bay area in Cali. Most of the dudes that send it bigger and faster than anyone else all had e-bikes by 2019 and their ages range from 25-50. The same people that owned the majority of analog DH koms now own all the electric DH koms. And the guys that own the uphill koms? They mostly complain about e-bikes.

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SEA5ONS FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:57)

Cool to see that even the top names in MTB are riding E-bikes. After all, it's still a bike even if it helps you a bit.

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VtVolk (Jun 3, 2020 at 15:57) (Below Threshold)

When the company who pays your salary asks you to be filmed riding an ebike, you ride an ebike

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pivotpoint FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:56)

Nice!

Endosch2 (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:18)

Funny there are more below threshold comments than above. Must mean something.

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mcozzy (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:59)

Yep. The same dim losers still on snailbikes that doesn't know how to turn their ebike filter on.

succulentsausage FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 10:15)

Means that soon enough ebikes will be allowed on all trail systems and we can see their faces as we pass them on the climbs.

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cirque4 (Jun 3, 2020 at 17:26) (Below Threshold)

@coletrane-mtb: Apples and oranges pal. An ebike is not a mountain bike. Feel smug if you can pass another person on an ebike - you are fooling yourself if you think you are faster than a mountain biker.

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Endosch2 (Jun 4, 2020 at 5:45) (Below Threshold)

@coletrane-mtb: I can see the cottage cheese thighs jiggle as e-bike riders pass me.

afrauenglass (Jun 3, 2020 at 11:38)

Waiting for the i-bike from apple, "Siri, full power"

befablogsen (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:48)

vimeo.com/417649584

yamaboy2000 (Jun 4, 2020 at 16:38)

Enjoyed that, makes want to ride even more.........and get better

Hobbanero (Jun 3, 2020 at 18:31)

doesn't even come close to the standard set by Uncle Ray

treggs (Jun 4, 2020 at 3:43)

Is it just me or does it look like he is riding a 27.5/26 mullet?

Groscreux FL (Jun 4, 2020 at 10:06)

He is on a full 27.5" set up

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Lookinforit FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:42)

Not quite clear... is this a pedal-access park or a lift park that he is poaching? Amazing riding but I don't think we should be condoning people ride park trails before they are officially open to riding, as this could be dangerous and frustrating for bike park crews

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cellco (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:55)

We ask and worked with the shapers of the Bikepark

SPKeen (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:00)

@RambaudMax: I'm sure you got the go ahead from park owners but the concept sets a bad precedent to follow for people who don't care about the rules.

foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:57) (Below Threshold)

Look at the bike and all the apparel on the rider and I think you have your answer about this article: paid professional advertisement.

Ba1rog FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:57)

@SPKeen: In France the owners are mainly the cities.

Tons of ppl ride off season like in Morzine and Avoriaz. The local are pretty respectful but they mainly do it when the season is over in september/october.

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moturner (Jun 3, 2020 at 11:31)

once saw a large woman in a grocery struggling to corral her toddler - eventually she succeeded by picking him up by the ankle, upside down, off the ground. the lil guy paid her back by pulling up her shirt to expose her belly and then he punched her in it. her belly jiggled like a bowl of jello for what felt like a minute, and watching this video reminded me of it

eyeslide (Jun 3, 2020 at 16:26)

Only good comments allowed about ebikes i guess. Lots of comments removed completely.

60ndown (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:30)

hope that belt don't snap !

ssheffield (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:58)

That bike's got a Bosch motor--no belt to worry about.

foggnm (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:46)

@ssheffield: Does this mean my dishwasher can be converted to a 29er?

ssheffield (Jun 3, 2020 at 10:40)

@foggnm: Great idea. Set it to rinse to keep cool.

yerbikesux (Jun 3, 2020 at 22:52)

I would rather ingest fecal particulate.

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Dustfarter (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:53)

Poor guy. He has to suffer the indignity of riding a boomer scooter for his sponsors. Doesn't look fun in the slightest.

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Davebob FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 10:13)

sounds like something a boomer would say. the younger generation don't give a shit what people ride.

DidNotSendIt (Jun 3, 2020 at 11:37)

@Davebob:

Too true. Went to a YT demo day in Forest Of Dean last year. I waited patiently for a medium capra to become free - it was the only reason i was there. Was thinking of buying one and wasn't sure on the sizing.

Meanwhile, all the kids were ignoring all the other bikes and were desparately clambering to get hold of the Decoys. All of them. It's just another new thing to them and they just wanted to have fun on it.

Dustfarter (Jun 3, 2020 at 15:21)

@Davebob: #sarcasm I'm a big supporter of e-bikes.

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Foolcyclist (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:23)

"I love the fact that I can get to the top of the bikeparks before the openings. The first run down on the fresh trails, after the winter, is one of the best feelings."

In much less words.... I am now too lazy to ride a bike uphill, this electric motorcycle is nice.

youseeus (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:28)

So true. Much more honest work to take the lift up.

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chriskneeland (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:28)

A step backwards for freeride.

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ryan83 (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:44)

How exactly? I’d respectfully argue that they are a great tool for the job. Being able to lap features and get further away from crowded trails is a good thing.

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chriskneeland (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:48) (Below Threshold)

@ryan83: I'd rather walk a freeride bike 10 miles than try to freeride an ebike.

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JDFF FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:59) (Below Threshold)

@ryan83: pristine trails don't stay pristine with ebike laps. Just an observation, not a complaint. Definitely starting to see trail degradation from ebikes in my area. Verdict is still out on if its because of increase in laps, increase in ridership and/or less skilled riders on ebikes skidding. Again, not complaining as some ebikers are doing trailwork. But, "pristine trails" and ebikes is an oxymoron.

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bluerocketboy (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:00)

@chriskneeland: why? They ride the same as a pretty heavy mountain bike and I'm going to get at least twice as many laps as you.
Step forward for freeride as I see it- access more remote locations, more laps and the emtbs are only going to get better with technology.

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jgainey (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:01)

Cool, cool cool cool. See you on lap 5

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DoubleCrownAddict (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:01)

@ryan83: Don't argue with snail bike trolls, just imagine yourself doing 10 laps to their one and be content in knowing you are having more fun.

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chriskneeland (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:02) (Below Threshold)

@bluerocketboy: Rides like a 2007 tank but with less travel. Not awesome.

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noodlewitnosteeze FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:03)

@JDFF: "More trail usage means a higher maintenance schedule". People knew that before, every trail builder I know and work with doesn't give a sh*t about E-bikes because jerries are going to skid on manual bikes, whether it's walmart, E-bike, or an $8000 dentist bike.

jimoxbox FL (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:03)

@JDFF: was going to post the same thing. It’s been really dry in the south of England this summer, there’s a load of new e bikes in my local woods . It can’t be coincidental that the trails have never been so cut up and dusty . Not saying they’re not fun, not saying they’re motorbikes, just an observation.

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chriskneeland (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:07)

@DoubleCrownAddict: Snail bike...it's what losers with motors yell when they realize they can't ride real bikes.

dexterfawkes (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:07)

@chriskneeland: lmao

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RowdyAirTime (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:19)

@chriskneeland: Really? What a ridiculous uneducated, uninformed and childish comment. Not sure if you are trying to be funny, or you are actually that clueless, or just a very negative person or maybe just another troll. Were you maybe easily passed by an ebiker when you were pedaling your hardest, which is unfortunately only at a snail pace? I have a dirt bike, 2 regular bikes and an EMTB and they are all fun to ride and each offer a completely different riding aspect. An ebike is definitely not a motorbike (not even close). Maybe try riding a motorbike and an ebike and you will know this and then the rest of us do not have to read your stupid comments? If you cannot understand this simple point, maybe just go back to riding your bike at a snail pace and the rest of us can go back to enjoying riding our bikes on all types of trails, including trails you have to push your bike up, or maybe you don't have any mountains or steep trails nearby and that is why you like to bash what other people enjoy riding...

chriskneeland (Jun 3, 2020 at 8:20) (Below Threshold)

@RowdyAirTime: Cool story bro.

RowdyAirTime (Jun 3, 2020 at 9:39)

@chriskneeland: Cool, it's all good bud. Appreciate your comment. Although you probably think I am an ebike lover, I will admit I do enjoy riding either of my regular pedal bikes the most as the difference in weight does make them more fun to ride, especially when popping off jumps, etc, which I like to do. However, if you have really steep mountains nearby with no lift to the top, it is really hard to beat a good EMTB. Originally I got my EMTB after a tough battle with cancer resulting in many pelvic issues which allowed me to start riding again, as I was quite sick, weighing less than 127lbs @ 5'11". After getting strong enough to ride my regular pedal bikes again, I still ride my EMTB, as simply put, it's just fun to ride.

On my EMTB I can pedal up the huge steep climbs nearby that and near impossible to ride up on any regular pedal bike. On my EMTB I go many places that I would not on my regular pedal bikes and explore new areas all the time. No big deal if the trails end or don't go anywhere, as I just turn around and try some more trails. One bonus that many non-sayers don't know is EMTB's can actually help keep you in shape as you usually ride longer and further and sometimes even ride when you might not feel like it on your regular pedal bike. Really, the biggest bonus is having a smile on your face when climbing really steep trails, which I can't say I do on my regular pedal bikes. Having a big smile on your face is what this sport is all about and why we are all in it, to have fun...

What some people don't get is EMTB's are really just a bicycle with "PEDAL ASSIST" and maybe a bit heavier. There is NO throttle like a motorbike on a ebike. An EMTB has different power modes, so you can pick how much assist you want. The amount of assist on Eco or Trail mode is also based on how much power you actually put into the pedals. If you pedal really hard, you will get more power assist, so EMTB's can be a good workout, especially in the lower power modes. I rode dirt bikes (motoX) for years and EMTB's are nothing the same. The difference between a motorbike and a EMTB is as far apart as you can get. Again, EMTB's are just like a regular pedal bike, and they feel the same to ride, and really the only difference is they are a bit heavier and have pedal assist.

If any of you ebike bashers still don't get it, please click on "Block" ebike content, so we do not have to continuously read some of these ridiculous comments anymore, as they are getting a bit old now...

platnum (Jun 4, 2020 at 18:52)

@chriskneeland: suit yourself

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dexterfawkes (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:38)

Vinny t rides motorbikes?

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bluerocketboy (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:57)

Does it look like a motorbike? because they sure as hell don't ride anything like one.

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jgainey (Jun 3, 2020 at 6:58)

This comment is so 2017

DoubleCrownAddict (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:02)

Does dexterfawkes rides snail bikes?

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dexterfawkes (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:02) (Below Threshold)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this not a bicycle (or bike) with a motor near the bottom bracket? From this small observation I can 100% call this a motorbike... And also was a joke calm down

dexterfawkes (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:04)

@DoubleCrownAddict: shit, you got me

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eyeslide (Jun 3, 2020 at 7:19)

Ebikes must not be selling very well. These advertisements aren’t really doing it for me