Vitus E-Sommet VR eMTB - Review

Jun 21, 2018
by Paul Aston  

Vitus Bicycles have a huge heritage in road cycling, where they were one of the first companies to create frames from alloy tubes bonded into alloy lugs without welding. Nowadays, Vitus is part of the ChainReaction group and sell a whole range of bikes directly online.The E-Sommet is their first eMTB, and takes its basic shape from the human-powered Sommet enduro platform.

The E-Sommet boasts 170mm of travel at the fore with a RockShox Lyrik, matched with a Super Deluxe rear shock controlling the 160mm of rear travel. The build kit is reasonable and chosen to reflect the bike's travel and intended use, which is basically a short travel downhill bike with an electric winch to get you back to the top. Thanks to the direct sale model, the E-Sommet drops in at a bargain £3599 GBP (€4078 approx.).

E-Sommet VR Details

Intended use: trail / enduro / self-shuttling DH
Travel: 160mm rear / 170mm front
Wheel size: 27.5"
Frame construction: Hydroformed Triple Butted 6061-T6 Aluminium
Suspension: RockShox Lyrik RC / Super Deluxe RC3
Motor: Shimano STEPS E8000
Battery: Shimano external 504wh
Sizes: S, M, L, XL
Weight: 22.39kg (XL, tubeless, DDown tyres, w/o pedals, actual.)
Price: £3599 GBP (€4078 approx.).
More info:
bigquotesDespite the 23kg weight, the E-Sommet rides with incredible lightness and agility, it simply floats over the terrain, pops easily and changes lean direction on a dime. Paul Aston


E-Sommet logo

Construction, Features and Motor

The E-Sommet uses a full hydroformed tube set made from 6061-T6 aluminium. The chosen motor is a Shimano STEPS E-8000 system that is becoming commonplace in the eMTB market, if not taking over. This motor is linked to a standard Shimano external battery mounted on top of the downtube.

There s a bunch of housing hidden out of view under the shock
There's a bunch of housing hidden out of view under the shock

The frame meets the standard requirements of 2018 including a tapered head tube, internal cable routing, Boost hub spacing, and post mount brake adaptors. There is nothing fancy on this bike; everything is just there to do a job at a good price.

The Shimano motor is protected by a bashguard which took the brunt of a few impacts.
The Shimano motor is protected by a bashguard which took the brunt of a few impacts.

There is one potential deal breaker, though – no bottle cage...

Nukeproof take care of the handlebar and stem
Nukeproof take care of the cockpit with an 800mm handlebar and 35mm stem.

Shimano s external battery my choice at the moment for a small light and easy to change power pack
Shimano's external battery, my preferred choice at the moment for a small, light, and easy to change power pack.
Super Deluxe
The RockShox Super Deluxe RC3 offers air spring, rebound, and a compression adjust lever for climbing.

Shimano s motor and crankset were as relaible as ever.
Shimano's motor and crankset were as reliable as ever.

Geometry & Sizing

Vitus E-Sommet Geometry

The E-Sommet has a range of sizes spread that grow approximately 20mm between each size between S and XL, giving reach numbers between 435mm and 493mm. The headtube also grows 10mm per size to increase the stack height as well as the reach. There's a 65.5º head angle up front and 75º effective seat angle, linked with a 444mm chainstay, which is on the shorter side for an eMTB. The bottom bracket is low with -25mm drop below the axles, and between these axles is a lengthy 1267mm wheelbase for the XL size tested.

Suspension Design

Side view

The E-Sommet uses a Horst link suspension layout, but with the lower shock mount attached to the chainstay. The means the shock is pushed upwards from the chainstay, and downwards by the upper rocker link simultaneously.

Vitus E-Sommet Review - Pedal kickback
Vitus ESommet Pedal Kickback

A trunnion-mounted RockShox Super Deluxe takes care of the 165mm of rear travel
A trunnion-mounted RockShox Super Deluxe takes care of the 160mm of rear travel
Vitus E-Sommet Leverage Ratio
Vitus E-Sommet Leverage Ratio

Vitus E-Sommet Review - Anti-squat
Vitus E-Sommet Anti-squat

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Nukeproof saddle
Nukeproof also supply the saddle

The XT drivetrain still isn t the ideal eMTB option.
The XT drivetrain still isn't the ideal option for the extra power of an eMTB.
Vitus lock-on grips and Shimano XT shifter on the right.
Vitus lock-on grips and Shimano XT shifter on the right.

Nukeproof take care of the handlebar and stem
Nukeproof take care of the handlebar and stem

For the price of £3599 (there is an even cheaper version for £3199 too), the build gets off to a good start with a Lyrik RC and Super Deluxe RC3 shock. The Guide RE brakes with 200mm rotors are a great option that challenge, or beat the power of the bigger Code R brakes, although they're not as powerful as the RSC with the SwingLink in the lever body. A mix of XT and SLX drivetrain puts the power to the DT-Swiss M1900 wheelset.

Finishing touches are well thought out for such an aggressive machine, including the slim Vitus lock-on grips, the 800mm Nukeproof bar (780mm S/M sizes) and 35mm stem. A Tranz-X seatpost with 150mm drop is topped with a Nukeproof saddle. Finally, there are a pair of Maxxis Minion DHF tires, in the chunky 2.5" WT width and DoubleDown casing.

Guide RE levers
Guide RE brakes with 200mm rotors front and rear.
Guide RE brakes with 200mm rotors front and rear.

Release Date Spring '18
Price $3599
Travel 170mm / 160mm
Rear Shock Rockshox Super Deluxe RC3
Fork Rockshox Lyrik RC
Headset FSA
Cassette Shimano SLX, 11-46T
Crankarms Shimano STEPS E-motor
Chainguide Shimano STEPS E-motor
Bottom Bracket Shimano STEPS E-motor
Rear Derailleur Shimano XT
Chain KMC X11E
Shifter Pods Shimano SLX
Handlebar Nukeproof alloy 25mm / 800mm
Stem Nukeproof alloy
Grips Vitus
Brakes SRAM Guide RE
Wheelset DT Swiss M1900
Tires Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 3C/TR
Seat Nukeproof Neutron
Seatpost TRANZ-X 150mm drop


Test Bike Setup

Finale Ligure served as the rocky test zone for the Vitus E-Sommet, and where better to test such an aggressive eMTB. I rode the XL sized bike which has a 493mm reach and 35mm stem. Thanks to the 800mm bar being my preferred width and slim lock on grips, the bike was raring to go.

After some fiddling, I settled on the suspension with 20% sag front with three Bottomless Tokens, and 25% rear with the shock maxed out with three tokens. +4 clicks of LSC on the Lyrik and the shock open, rebound set fairly fast front and rear. 24/26psi in the Double Down tires (tubeless) seemed ideal for uphill traction while giving enough support for heading down the hill.

Overall, Vitus ship a bike that, with the addition of pedals and air pressure, is ready to go straight up and then down the gnarliest trail you can find.

Paul Aston
Paul Aston
Location: Finale Ligure, Italy
Age: 32
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 75kg
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @astonator
KM's ridden: ca.500

Vitus E-Sommet Review


The Vitus has the most upright and far forward saddle position of any eMTB to date by a few millimeters, (measured 185 millimeters behind the BB at my 795mm saddle height from BB), this makes it climbing easier when it gets steep. The short-ish 444mm chainstay counters this slightly compared to bikes with longer chainstays, but the long front end and slack head angle leave the front wheel out front as a counterweight to keep the front down. The long front center did make it tough to keep the front end on track on tight switchbacks, it needed precise attention and power control, but I think this is more of an issue with saddle position and chainstay length than the front wheel position.

The E-Sommet has -13mm of pedal kickback at full travel (where the cranks are forced to rotate backward from the chain tension); this seems to be much less than most eMTB's which allows the E-Sommet to float nicely when pedaling through, and over rough terrain.

Vitus E-Sommet Review


After getting the suspension dialled, which took a few rides to get the correct amount of spacers I needed and air pressure, not too soft, not too hard, but just right, the E-Sommet came into its element – hands down the best descending and cornering eMTB to date, being stable with my hands far enough behind the front axle of the 170mm fork even in really steep terrain, and railing corners like a downhill bike.

To the non-E-believers, you're going to be heading straight to the comments section now, as I say that despite the 23kg weight, the E-Sommet rides with incredible lightness and agility, it simply floats over the terrain, pops easily and changes lean direction on a dime.

At 329mm from the floor, the bottom bracket is also the lowest eMTB tested to date, especially considering the 160mm travel; this gave added to the stability of the bike and really helps it to tear through corners with tonnes of available grip. The downside of this being the shorter cranks that were striking the ground more on the climbs – but, luckily, the short crank revolution is coming with Ghost already fitting 155mm cranks, E*13 making aftermarket solutions, Bosch supposedly have something in the works, and Miranda have options ready to buy from 150-170mm in 5mm increments.

Vitus E-Sommet Review

How does it compare?

The Vitus is by far the cheapest eMTB I've tested to date by a full £1000. Compared to some bikes that cost twice the price, it outrides most of them. For example, the €5250 Thok Mig-R offers similar spec but is more expensive, and is out-descended by the lower, longer, Vitus which also has more travel. The Thok fights back, though, with more ground clearance, better climbing characteristics on tight corners and a more expensive construction due to their fully customized tube set over 'open-mold' products.
Thok Bike Test
Thok's Mig-R is more expensive than the E-Sommet with a similar build

Technical Report

The Trans-X dropper lever and Shimano motor control had a few spacing issues on the left hand side of the handlebar.
The Ascend dropper lever and Shimano motor control had a few spacing issues on the left-hand side of the handlebar.

The Tranz-X seatpost was reliable throughout the test.
The Ascend seatpost was reliable throughout the test.
Minion DHF tyres in a DoubleDown casing were spec d front and rear great to see on a bike at this price.
Minion DHF tires in a DoubleDown casing were spec'd front and rear, great to see on a bike at this price.

The DT Swiss M1900 wheelset took plenty of big hits but were unscathed bar a few dings.
The DT Swiss M1900 wheelset took plenty of big hits, but were unscathed bar a few dings.

Ascend Dropper: The stealth routed 150mm drop post from Ascend worked without issue. I did struggle to get it into a decent position where I could reach in along with the STEPS control lever. One of the stem bolts was also blocked by the Shimano display which made it difficult to tighten – both bolt heads on the left-hand side, please.

Minion DHF, DoubleDown 2.5" WT: The DoubleDown Minion DHF tires are a great choice for eMTB. A much better choice than floppy and fragile plus-sized tires.

DT Swiss M1900 Wheelset: DT now have a full range of 'Hybrid' wheels that are optimized for eMTB in various ways. These M1900's are not, but they performed without problem, and gave a good shape to the 2.5" Minions. A few slight dings here and there, but they stayed true to fight many more days after 500km of riding.


+ Bargain price
+ Great component choice
+ Plenty of travel and geometry for hardcore riding

- Not the king of climbing, but above average
- Cranks are long compared to bottom bracket height

Is this the bike for you?

If you want to get on the eMTB bandwagon for the lowest price and with great descending performance, then yes. Grab a pair of Miranda's 150/155mm cranks and the climbing will be superb too. Clever component choice leaves the door open for sensible upgrades which would start with the drivetrain, and a spare wheelset for mud. Actually, before all of that, get a second battery and a suitable riding pack and you will be having the rides of your life.

Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesThe E-Sommet really did tick all the boxes for me, after a couple of minor tweaks it would be close to 'perfect'. Great price, spec and ride quality. Paul Aston


  • 40 2
 I can't figure out if I'd choose this or Sommet else as my daily ride
  • 15 4
 Sorry it weighs 50lbs and floats over terrain - sounds more like it simply moves terrain
  • 11 0
 The regular sommet is a gem.
  • 2 0
 Mine to, now I've got the rear shock dialled. Have two other Vitus, a 29er ht and full sus escarpe and have sold on two others. Loved every one. Only gripe is my current 29er ht that comes up a bit short. All the 2018 Vitus are winning the bike tests in the mtb mags as well. Looking at building up a nucleus hard tail soon.
  • 2 0
 I like my Sommet too. I named him Sherman. Sherman and I are besties. Sometimes I go in the garage and just look at him. I heart Sherman.
  • 3 0
 @freestyIAM: Hahaha, you sound so much like me, not named the bike, but I do just stand there looking at it, and some time pick up a duster and polish it. Am I sad!! Mines the 2016 top of the range CRX in neon red.
  • 1 0
 @ballardski: 2016 VRX. Stock it's not that amazing, the wheels in particular were junk, but I'm a tinkerer and spreading about another 1K of upgrades over 2 years aviods the wifey's notice. As it sits now it's got a renthal cockpit, ex411s laced to hope pro 4s, and and the sus is custom tuned by vorsprung on both ends and a whole lot of other personalized touches that aren't worth spilling the ink over, but it feels like it's really my own now. The livery of the VRX in 2016 was tan with black and neon orange accents which reminder me of a military vehicle, thus Sherman.
  • 2 0
 @freestyIAM: not stayed stock either. The mavic wheel set have been bomb proof so far, but I've now changed to a wider wheel set. Renthal set up is planed, nukeproof saddle replaced for a fabric, as to flat for my fat arse. Suspension tuned by my fair hands, a couple of tricks I've picked up along the way.
  • 27 16
 I'm simple man - I see ebike I press dislike. Wink
  • 12 17
flag etga6657 (Jun 21, 2018 at 4:45) (Below Threshold)
 Please do not confuse "simple" with "stupid" or "narrow-minded". It'll keep you from wasting your time and trolling the comments section.
  • 15 4
 @etga6657: Well you should step back and let a man make a joke!
I always have to hold back when i see E-bike articles, because i really think that it's a different kind of sports!
E-bikes as an alternative to petrol engines, yeah, as an alternative to a real mountainbike, nah, not for me!
I don't "hate" people riding E-Bikes but i simply can't see myself riding 1 ... (Am i a bad person ? ;-) )
At some point in my life, i may want to buy one... the reason? injury, illness, handicap, or simply age ...
But for now: NO, it ruins my "romantic" adventure view of mountainbiking!
I bike uphill, i hike uphill, i sweat my ass off, i get blisters, i curse the whole world, but i do it WITHOUT a frickin' motor!
An then there are other factors:
- I really like playful bikes, and E-bikes are NOT playful, a 23Kg Bike makes no sense for me!
- Batteries (compatibility - ecological impact)
- trail access
- ...

Well i'll stop there, now vote me down into oblivion please!
  • 10 8
 Where is the dislike button on pinkbike articles?
  • 2 1
 @paulaston: you just gave him it ????
  • 3 0
 @yggi: thats what I'm thinking aswell. I have nothing against e-bikes, but I don't need one (yet). When I'll be old and I won't be as fit as I'm now - I will probably buy an e-bike.
Technology develops fast - who knows what we will be able to ride in 30 years Smile
  • 14 8
 @Paulaston - Good review! Couldn't agree more with how good a descender this bike is.
Could you tell me how many tokens the shock came fitted with? and what shock/fork psi are you running? I removed all the tokens from the fork but have been happy with the rear shocks progression but have no idea how many tokens are in there.
I have been riding my E-Sommet for a couple of months now (500miles) and just can't get enough time on it. it's a ridiculously good bike and only gets better as you learn how to use the added weight to your advantage instead of wrestling it. The only thing I've changed on mine are the tyres to tubeless exos (which brought the complete weight down to 46lb and livened up the ride) and the grips to sensus as I ride gloveless. the bike has held up amazingly well to mainly thouands of feet of climbing to access DH/Enduro descents.
One thing I will say though to anyone buying this bike is do a thorough bolt check like you would a with new DH bike. My crank pinchbolts were loose enough the L/H crank arm came clean off during an early ride. Also the wheel sensor kept twisting out of alignment especially if I'd been throwing whips and not landing perfectly straight I eventually realised this was down to the spokes being straight pull and the spoke twisting in the hub rather than the magnet slipping .
Your recommendation to buy shorter cranks interests me. I run 165mm cranks on all my other bikes (including my roadbike) and would have preferred them on this but for pedalling rather than clearance as I don't feel the bike really needs them for the latter but that's more to do with the fact I already ride lower BB bikes and have done for over a decade so pedal strikes are a non issue.
I really don't see the need for waterbottle mounts but it is do-able (mounted to the top tube with aftermarket bottle mounts, You mention purchacing a spare battery, if you can cope with carrying around a 7lb lump of Li-ion cells surely some water in your pack wouldn't be much worse? Personally I can't think of much worse than carrying a heavy bag on such a brilliantly descending and playful bike.
One other thing to watch out for is Vitus only ream the seat tube to between 165-175mm insertion (probably to stop anyone dropping the seatpost down too far and damaging the frame. I'm 5'11" with a 33" inseam and my E-Sommet is a small (I wanted it to ride more like my 26" wheel DH bikes than the currently fashionable looong Enduro bikes) so ordered a oneUp 170mm post for it but despite me being a lot taller than recommended height for a small the lower portion of the post it wouldn't quite insert deeply enough to use the post at full extension. I asked Vitus about havin it reamed out further but as expected they told me it wold invalidate the warranty. FWIW a 150mm brand X fits fine with room to spare. (I only wanted more roo for manualling anyway, it descends and jumps everything absolutely fine at 150mm drop)
  • 20 2
 Is this a field report
  • 8 4
 Tldr: ebikes
  • 4 0
 1 token fitted as STD
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 @moggy82: Thanks
  • 3 1
 Thanks Gary.

The shock came with 2x tokens fitted, I added one more and 175psi. Rebound set fast.
The fork came with 2x and I also added one more, 85psi and +2 LSC. Rebound fast again. This gave about 20% rear sag and 10-12% front. I find I run the eMTB's with about 5-10% less sag than I would with a normal bike to support the extra weight of the motor/battery pushing it through the travel too easily. Dynamic sag will be more than a normal bike due to the weight so you will get a similar feeling.

You're 100% correct about using the weight to your advantage, I think it takes about 10 good rides for people to adjust their timing to use the weight to their benefit - the only time I ever feel held back on an eMTB now is doing pure bunnyhops, any kind of roots or rock to kick off I can hop or jump the same as a super light bike.

I often head out and ride the most horrible technical climbs I can that are full of rocks, so I like the extra short cranks to help with clearance, I also ride flats which have less clearance on average than clip pedals. For €50 it worth a punt on the Miranda's.

The battery is 2.6kg, so I have been using the Ergon eMTB pack with just a couple of tools in it and few spares, so probably not any heavier than many riders packs full of water, tools, clothes, food etc. Depending on how and where you ride you can keep the spare battery at home/in the car/ hidden at the bottom of the trail you are lapping.
  • 4 7
 They make 0mm cranks for specifically for e-bikes now... some people call them foot-pegs.
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Thanks for the info.

I prefer my fork more linear so run no tokens, no compression and reasonably quick rebound and 87psi. Shock rebound one click from full fast and 205psi (27%Sag) and the stock (2?) tokens. the bike is a lot less progressive than my other 170mm bike (YT Capra) but I feel because of the weight and added grip the ESommet has and slightly different riding style required less progressive suspension works well with it anyway. I'm 5'11" and 200lb but choose to ride a small. I'm more of a rear wheel rider and just don't enjoy long reach bikes. Hence the suspension set up and lack of need for fork tokens

I don't ride mine with a pack at all, have a tiny Dakine frame bag with CO2, tool and tube strapped to the underside of the top tube and don't really need a drink on a most Ebike rides under 2.5-3hrs. (big drink before and re-hydrate after). if it's warm I have a minimalist runners waterbottle waist belt that holds a 500ml bottle and has a tiny zipped pocket for car key/money.
  • 1 0
 @paulaston what sort of range are you getting from 1 battery.
Some of my fav local ride (that I no longer feel fit enough to ride regularly) are around 45-50 miles
Will a second battery comfortably achieve this range?
  • 1 0
 @randybadger: Depends on your weight and how much climbing are in your rides more than the distance.
I'm 200lb. local from the door riding isn't awfully hilly but I spend more time riding mine in the Scottish Borders where 4000ft in 10miles isn't uncommon.
I only have the one battery.
Shuttling fireroads/singletrack climbs to ride DH tracks on my own I tend to use boost for every climb and willl get around 4500ft of elevation out of a fully charged battery. If the climbs are super steep or rough or muddy this will reduce that range by upto 25%
Only using Eco I have never managed to use a whole battery charge. Riding anywhere flat (and smooth) means I'm usually pedalling above the 15mph assist limit though and not using any battery at all.
45miles is the furthest I've ridden mine, but climbing was less than 4500ft on that ride and using a mixture of all 3 modes I still had one bar left.
For longer rides I generally still use my normal bikes.
Proper long rides I only do on a roadbike.
hope some of this helps.
  • 1 0
I’m around 110 kg but relatively fit. My bigger rides have around 3000 ft but to be fair a lot of the climbing is getting me where I want to be. We have some hellish steep climbs I currently avoid because of their impact on my overall energy my ride length would be greatly reduced if I could take the edge out of those steep climbs.
It sounds like initially it’s trial and error. I’m really just looking for something for xc duties, I intend to keep my dh rig.
Am I likely to be overbiked on the sommet?
  • 1 0
 @randybadger: is a 170mm Enduro bike with a 65deg HA overkill for XC? Undoubtably. But only you can say whether you want to use something so much more capable. What I will say is most 140mm steeper emtbs weigh the same. The vitus has adjustable compression damping and pedals really well even full open.
  • 1 0
To be honest I was looking at the focus jam and the turbo levo.
But the value on this bad boy just screams at you.
I don’t think I’ve ever been in a situation where I have had ask if I had too much travel it seems obvious when you have to pedal it all under your own steam.
Having the motor assist has muddied the water a bit. I could probably run a hardtail on a lot of my local distance rides but where is the fun in that!!
Perhaps 170 is the new 140??
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I do ride mine locally too and local from the door riding here is extremely XC orientated. it breathes new life into your tired old XC routes TBH. it's like a FFWD for the rubbish slow bits and an absolute blast on the fun bits. What it's not so great at is flat smooth hardpack riding or riding flat roads between trails.. The assist on all UK Emtbs switches off at under15mph and on my normal bike I ride a lot of the flat parts at 17/18mph. it's still not rubbish riding it above the assist. but you certainly feel the difference.I'm actually a bit slower on a 10minute flat technical (rooty) loop on my sommet than I am on my normal bikes.but it's more fun on the ESommet. it has great pedalling characteristics and the suspension isn't wallowy in the slightest (unless you run too much sag),
I'm just over half an hours drive from Innerleithen and the rest of the tweed valley which is where the bike really shines. Gone are hours and hours of trudging up fire roads to do a couple of DH and hello to 2hr blasts taking in a days worth of descents.Oh... and the bike is actually a more capable (and v.slightly faster) decender than my normal 170mm Enduro bike. Even switched off.
Prety sure the Vitus is lighter than a Levo, and I think the Focus is only lighter because it has a smaller battery.(and less range). And Yeah. it's incredible value. The bike performs like a heavier nukeproof Mega and is spec'd more or less the same as a Mega.Pro (£3350) it's like CRC are giving you the motor and battery for free. Wink

Do yourself a favour, if you are riding mainly XC and it's not overly rocky. Switch the tyres to a harder compound, lighter set and go tubeless. it takes 3lb off the weight and the faster rolling speed, acceleration and nimbleness completely transforms the handling of the bike.
That probably goes for all Emtbs. they really don't need the almost DH spec (or plus size) tyres they al seem to come spec'd with. Just be sensible with tyre pressures. As you should anyway with an singleply/Exo tyre.
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Thanks bud.
I think I’m pretty much convinced.
I had considered maybe running a standard 29” wheel for my more xc routes.
I just need them to come back in stock in a large Frown
  • 10 0
 Is it really a Con if it's above average?
  • 7 0
 wow that rig is pure bargain! so other companys sell poorly specced trailbikes for 3000$ without a motor and then this! still no ebike believer and never will, but this thing looks solid and well priced.
  • 9 1
 I've got a 2015 Sommet. Stupidly good frame for the money. I can well believe this one is an absolute steal.
  • 17 7
 Into the sea with ye
  • 13 5
 I have decided I like eMTBs. This one is relatively cheap to boot. Gimme!
  • 8 0
 Domo arigato, Mr Roboto.
  • 6 0
 I’d say that that’s the nicest looking ebike I’ve seen to date, not a bad price ether
  • 14 7
 Nice dirtbike..
(Someone had to do it...)
  • 9 5
 Nice mobility scooter
  • 8 3
 You know I used to be all no way to emtb, but then when you have damaged your legs so much it gets like use one or don't go out, and me, I prefer to go out
  • 5 2
 I thing all of us (strong term on the internet and especially on Pinkbike, I know..) will agree that using eMTB when you have an injury, or you get bit worn down by age is no big deal. If it is an eMTB or nothing situation, please go ahead, buy e-bike and come join the rest of us for a ride.
The issue most of us has, is when we see perfectly healthy people, even if unfit, on an e-bike. Sure maybe we shouldn't care what other people do and want, but this trend of numbing things down because they are hard is highway to hell, and we should resist, if not for us then for future generations... you know the whole "today it's an exeption, tomorrow it's normal" thing.
Biking is a sport, it shouldn't become sitting on your ass doing "almost" nothing.
  • 3 0
 @paulaston: Can you tell us what your uphill test track is like please? I'm curious.. I don't currently have an e-bike but it's on the list as a trail scouting tool, and most of the time that involves long fire road climbs rather than techy stuff. But I guess an e-bike opens up ascending on singletrack as a way of accessing stuff, and I hadn't thought about that before. Thanks Smile
  • 15 8
 Be gone with you
  • 3 1
 As e-bikes go this is quite nice! Wouldn't mind one of these (or a Spaz Kenevo) with a 180mm Fox 40 on it. I'm learning to live with the whole e-bike thing - the trick is to embrace it as a new sport alltogether, not a form of mtb - then one can live with the shame of swinging a leg over one (try it - you might just have fun).
  • 4 2
 If Shimano are making motors for E-Bikes/Motor Bikes, how long till they come out with a gearbox or they just happy flogging derailleurs and cassettes to the masses for the rest of eternity?
  • 3 0
 They do an 11 speed gearhub

1744 g rotating mass (but an NX cassette is already > 600 gr), and you can shift while stopeed, which is great for touring (I mean real human-powered bicycle touring).
  • 2 0
 @buK3suba: I only have experience with their Nexus hubs and they're great. But that's for street use (and they're being ridden loads, often heavily loaded). Their Alfine hubs are supposedly even better though if they're not certified for mountainbike use I still wouldn't dare to use them as such. Would be a shame to destroy an expensive and perfectly good product through improper use. That said, companies like Zerode, Brooklyn Machine Works and GT have used these hubs inside their frames as a gearbox (just like Nicolai used to do with the Rohloff hub). Always seemed like an affordable alternative to Pinion but apparently the drag was still a big deal for the product managers (and maybe also for the audience and journos). I would love to see another company give this concept a shot though. The drag in the Nexus 8sp hub doesn't bother me at all.
  • 2 1
 Hi Paul,

Nice Review, ive had mine (VR in large) about 10 weeks now and love it. I agree on the Cranks but i really dont see upwards switchbacks an issue. Its all about the down. With BC discount its an even bigger deal too.
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 Great, glad you are liking it. It's not terrible on the uphills, just not as good as some others. I built a trail behind my house purely to test different eMTB's climbing characteristics and this was more of a struggle than the Thok, BMC, and especially the Ghost SL AMR X with the DPA Lyrik
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 The weak point of the virus Sommer and escape seems to be the derailleur hanger system with the 2 small bolts. Is this one share the same derailleur hanger?
I have the virus dominer DH with a a kind of similar derailleur hanger (but not exactly the same) and no issues so far It's the hanger.
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 Looks like they change the derailleur hanger and fix the issue
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 Apparently Motobecane bought the same bike from the Chinese factory and put a different badge on it. Not hating, i'm all for a cheaper version of the same thing.
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 They are so good they have sold out !
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 My biggest issue with ebikes is not that of the usual blah blah that you usually hear on this site, it’s to do with the weight and the battery pack, if you have one and you like to travel abroad then unless you have deep pockets the airlines don’t make it easy for you, most airlines (depending on economy class, obviously business and first get more) are anything between 23 and 30kg anything above is excess baggage but no bag can be more than 32kg. This bike in a bike bag would be pretty much at the limit, having said that you also need special permission to take the battery, if they refuse then it’s got to be sent ahead as cargo.
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 As you've stated Airlines won't allow a 504wh Li-ion pack on flights anyway so you need to find some way round this, sending the battery ahead perhaps?.

My small E-sommet is 20.9kg with pedals since I switched the OEM tyres and tubes to Exo 2.3/2.4s and tubeless.Everythine else bar the grips are stock.
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 Very soon there will be ways around this. It's only a short matter of time before bike shops and hotels have batteries to rent. This would already be popular but the fact that Shimano and Bosch seem to be selling every single battery they can make means there are very few extras available for rental. Another reason I always advise people to stick with the big companies as there is a better chance of finding spares.
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 @G-A-R-Y: I agree, you can get the weight down by making the changes you've stated, but even at the 20.9kg you've still gone over your allocated allowance because you're bike bag will be in the region of 10kg. Lets be generous though and take the 3kg off for the battery pack, that would leave you with 2kg for all your bike gear and what ever other clothing you need to take with you. No way you could do that without needing 5-10kg of excess baggage. At $50 a kg then it gets expensive especially as it per trip. As I say though, that's my only gripe, if you're staying within country then happy days
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 @paulaston: That's definitely a good idea
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 Am I mistaken or should crank length not (only) be a function of frame design and geometry but more of rider height and inseam length...? I'd not want to spin 150mm cranks up a hill when my battery is down...
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 @paulaston Why did you ride XL and not L which should fit your height? I'm almost 6'2'', would you recommend XL for me, too?

I ride Specialized Enduro 2016, size L and fits me well.
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 How can ebike not be a good climber? If there's power in the battery you just spin away and unless you're a complete novice, shift weight if necessary to tackle steeps.
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 By comparison to other ebikes, not to other non assisted bikes I guess.
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 I have this bike, it never home now.
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 Well except for charging hey
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 @trippleacht: Nah, he just rides with a solar panel strapped to his back and a wind-turbine on the handlebar.
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Wind turbine on an ebike = infinite speed
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 First e-mtbs, now VR ones. Not only do you not need to pedal much, you don't even have to get out of bed. Sign me up!
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 Bloody ebikes aren't real mountain biking. They're like real mountain biking except better, in very nearly every way.
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 Scrolls straight to the comments before reading article Big Grin
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 Got one myself, absoulute belter of a bike. Great value for money????
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 Is the bike has Artificial Intelligence technology too????
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 I bought some Five Ten E-shoes, works pretty well.....................Smile
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 I came here just to upvote all the anti-Ebike comments
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 shouldn't ebikes come with coils?
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 Ancient dh bikes are running up that hill.
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