Want to Make the Bike Park Radder? - WMBP Trail Engaged
We're in the business of getting rad.
Introducing Trail Engaged; a digital suggestion box straight to the Bike Park team. If you have an idea of how to improve the Bike Park, fix a specific part of the trail, enhance a jump or add a berm, make a new type of trail, or simply just provide your feedback, we want to know.
The Trail Crew are receiving suggestions from riders every day and we know not every suggestion can be done. But for the first time, Trail Engaged provides a platform for your comments to be heard. Every week we share your comments and look for ways to immediately improve the Park or work general themes into future planning.
So it's time to be heard. SUBMIT YOUR SUGGESTION today.
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So far, we have received a ton of really great feedback. Many of the recommendations that come in relate to sections of trail we are already working on, or have plans to work on before the end of the season. But, the Bike Park team has also received many ideas that they hadn't thought of before. Below are five suggestions from our inbox that highlight some cool ideas:
1. More jumps less bumps! Another trail similar to A-line would be awesome and I feel a lot of people would like that. And I understand that breaking bumps are unavoidable but in some parts of A-Line they really need to be worked on. And possibly build another jump trail similar to crank it up. There are way less jump trails then tech stuff and I think a lot of people prefer jump trails. Thank you for the opportunity to give feedback, see you in September!
2. I really like the last feature on the new crab apple hits (the on/off dirt box) something like that would be really awesome on aline or dirt merchant it would be awesome if you can do it some time.
3. Hi, First off, great job with the bike park this season. The amount of work done for opening day and early in the season was remarkable. My request is for more technical single track around the single black/easier double black level. My favourite trails include No Joke, Afternoon Delight/Original Delight exit, O-sin and Schleyer. I'm hoping some of the new Creekside trails are in that vein.
4. Hi guys, Awesome work in the park, but can you fix the ride out for the last roll on Detroit Rock City (you know where it merges with Clown Shoes). It is so beat up now it is like riding through stairs. That would be awesome, keep up the good work otherwise!
5. It would be nice to have one more flow trail at the base that will spread people out off of Heart Of Darkness and Lower Aline that will always be there and won't need to get rebuilt every summer. I know there is a lack of space but it would be rad to have one more. Down hill pump track with doubles and triples. The joy cross trail in the bone yard is nice but it gets plowed every fall. Thanks for all your hard work making this place rad.
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Photo - Mitch Winton, Coast Mountain Photography
Thank you to all of the riders who have submitted comments so far! Keep letting us know your thoughts, and don't forget to thank the Trail Crew when you see them on the trails!
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MENTIONS: @WhistlerMountainBikePark
Introducing Trail Engaged; a digital suggestion box straight to the Bike Park team. If you have an idea of how to improve the Bike Park, fix a specific part of the trail, enhance a jump or add a berm, make a new type of trail, or simply just provide your feedback, we want to know.
The Trail Crew are receiving suggestions from riders every day and we know not every suggestion can be done. But for the first time, Trail Engaged provides a platform for your comments to be heard. Every week we share your comments and look for ways to immediately improve the Park or work general themes into future planning.
So it's time to be heard. SUBMIT YOUR SUGGESTION today.
So far, we have received a ton of really great feedback. Many of the recommendations that come in relate to sections of trail we are already working on, or have plans to work on before the end of the season. But, the Bike Park team has also received many ideas that they hadn't thought of before. Below are five suggestions from our inbox that highlight some cool ideas:
1. More jumps less bumps! Another trail similar to A-line would be awesome and I feel a lot of people would like that. And I understand that breaking bumps are unavoidable but in some parts of A-Line they really need to be worked on. And possibly build another jump trail similar to crank it up. There are way less jump trails then tech stuff and I think a lot of people prefer jump trails. Thank you for the opportunity to give feedback, see you in September!
2. I really like the last feature on the new crab apple hits (the on/off dirt box) something like that would be really awesome on aline or dirt merchant it would be awesome if you can do it some time.
3. Hi, First off, great job with the bike park this season. The amount of work done for opening day and early in the season was remarkable. My request is for more technical single track around the single black/easier double black level. My favourite trails include No Joke, Afternoon Delight/Original Delight exit, O-sin and Schleyer. I'm hoping some of the new Creekside trails are in that vein.
4. Hi guys, Awesome work in the park, but can you fix the ride out for the last roll on Detroit Rock City (you know where it merges with Clown Shoes). It is so beat up now it is like riding through stairs. That would be awesome, keep up the good work otherwise!
5. It would be nice to have one more flow trail at the base that will spread people out off of Heart Of Darkness and Lower Aline that will always be there and won't need to get rebuilt every summer. I know there is a lack of space but it would be rad to have one more. Down hill pump track with doubles and triples. The joy cross trail in the bone yard is nice but it gets plowed every fall. Thanks for all your hard work making this place rad.
Thank you to all of the riders who have submitted comments so far! Keep letting us know your thoughts, and don't forget to thank the Trail Crew when you see them on the trails!
#RideNowSleepLater
MENTIONS: @WhistlerMountainBikePark
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1. More lift-accessed trailbike epics. There's already a couple off TOTW but down the back of cakehole there's potential for so much more. Million dollar area too, but even cooler would be something like a TOTW style trail going the other way, parallel(ish) to the High Note trail. Musical Bumps to singing pass would be nice but obviously some of that is provincial park. Maybe something out to Symphony/Flute area and down to Singing Pass? Seems like a massively untapped market right now, riding in the alpine is rad and you only have one trail for it.
2. Steeper berms. Not higher. Just steeper. Ninja Cougar has the right idea.
3. Reroute Kashmir so it doesn't go uphill every 3 seconds. It's gonna be in the park soon enough...
4. Bigger squirrel catcher at the start of A-line. The number of people on there who simply should NOT be on there is mind boggling. Maybe another one at each entrance in the form of a mandatory double.
5. A sign that clearly outlines reasonable jump line progression: ride Crank It Up until you can consistently and safely clear everything, then do the same on C-More and Blue Velvet before you decide A-line is a good idea. Make sure you can consistently clear everything on A-line before hitting Dirt Merchant, and again on DM before you even think about Crabapple.
6. Freeride zone down Lower Insanity ski run.
7. WB-owned rental bikes that are actually maintained and not deathtraps.
8. Fix D1
9. More trails like Dustys and Love Anal with fast wide open loose flat corners, ideally bunted off. Please ignore the plebs who say things like "needs more jumps and berms" when pretty much the whole rest of the bike park is exactly that. Also, please get someone to go clear out Love Anal a bit, it's getting narrow just because the grass is so high beside the trail.
10. Stop changing the Love Anal sign to say "canal". It's just rude. Likewise, Pulp Fiction is actually Crack Addict.
11. Reopen that other trail. You know, the one you closed...
12. Stop putting pump tracks up the top of the lift where nobody wants to take a dirtjump bike to.
13. More fast loose stuff in general.
14. Fix the first table on the last straight of Dirt Merchant so you don't send it to flat all the time. I'm not so fast that I should be flatlanding anything inadvertently.
15. More features in the boneyard that are rideable by the public. In fact it'd be pretty cool to open the Joyride course to the public in the same way the XL park gets opened to people in the winter - by all means add T&Cs or some kind of qualifying prerequisite but having all that stuff sitting unused for the entire season (bar like 3 days) is wasteful.
16. Remove those berms that got put into Freight Train right before the Sidetracked/No Duff/etc junction. They totally ruined the flow and made the braking bumps worse than ever.
17. Trim some of the foliage overhanging corners in Upper Angry Pirate so you can see around them a bit better.
18. Some kind of blue alternative to expressway for the intermediate riders who find their way up the Creekside gondola would be sweet
Couldnt believe it when I saw it.
Canyons flat out missed the boat, if they would've done it right from the start they could've owned Deer Valley. Too Bad cause Deer Valley now runs the show and everyones jumped ship. Once Deer Valley gets their big line built it will be a done deal.
...Anyways to contribute to the article I always thought night riding would be cool...they have night skiing why not night biking? Put some lights on Crank it up and A line.
but whatever the case hopefully Vail doesn't F' things up at Whistler
Canyons could easily still be in the game if they just made a few changes and continued to build better trails instead of raising ticket prices.
Either way, it's frustrating that there seems to be a lack of progression for expert riders in Park City. What's the biggest jump they have up there now? 30 ft? It's kinda sad that we're pushing 60' in Ogden, but the resorts are refusing to progress..
you mean raspberry lane?? its mostly a smooth flow line and its not even big...more like medium sized janky jumps.
There are tougher trails outside the parks but they are mostly considered hush hush because they are unsanctioned. Most of them have been around for so long they are kinda grandfathered in, but anytime someone puts up a video or specifics peoples panties get in a bunch.
The problem is that any tougher trail outside the park is unsanctioned and being built under the radar by riders and has to be kept on the down low... and who knows if it will get torn down whenever the powers that be have had enough of it.
All the trail contractors/builders in the area are busy building lame brown sidewalk xc trails, over the course of the last few years they have built 100's of miles of perfectly smooth buff xc single track and ZERO AM/DH trails.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lCMUkqpI7o
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But really...DON'T RUIN THE TRAILS
I agree though, more ways down to Creekside are required, especially for folks not comfortable with black diamonds yet. I know they are planning on building more.
Family-friendly isn’t a thing you think of necessarily but dads wanna ride and if they can talk the Mrs into a family vacation where the little tykes are safe to have a ball while she gets her pedicure, they’ll be tripping all over themselves, with the wife’s approval, to drop their hard earned vacation $ on a trip there. I know I would. Make it a place the Mrs wants to go and take the kids, and the $ will follow.
(Maybe this is already the case if so just ignore me.)
Just like ski school in winter you can put your kids in to bike camp, which is better than ski school anyways (because I am biased biking is better than skiing)
And women's nights in the park are awesome too, for all levels if mom wants to try!?
the park is fine, braking bumps and all.
its called dh mtb.
some of you peeps are over the top with your complaining.
do you not have disc brakes?
do you not have full suspension?
how soft and or spoiled/entitled are some of ya anyway?
some of you should take up bmx if the park is too rough for ya.
but, you'd find something to bitch about with that too.
park is fine, change nothing.
*mind the sarcasm meter
Fire and crabapple = summer