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We Are One Composites' Prototype Downhill Bike - Crankworx Whistler 2023

Jul 26, 2023
by Matt Beer  
We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike

Hot out of the mold, We Are One Composites showed up in Whistler with a new prototype downhill bike that they've been working on for a few months now. If this bike looks familiar, that's because it draws from the experience that Vlad Yordanov learned from a university project, his Sequence frame. Both Vlad, and the other three engineers on the team, Ben Markwick, Adam Marchand, and Logan Kupchanko put tons of overtime hours in to complete the first rideable prototype in time for Crankworx.

This unnamed frame is serving as a control point for manufacturing more specific downhill components, such as rims, and a new direct mount stem.

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
Wheel, shock, and pivot position possibilities are endless when you have access to the right tools, and a passionate design team.

The frame borrows the rear triangle from an XL Arrival and a portion of the front triangle too. Heaps of carbon overlap was used to connect the Arrival front triangle to the new shock tunnel area and reinforce the front shock mount.

As for the geometry and kinematics, there are plenty of numbers to rattle off. The head angle sits at 62.8-degrees and the reach measures 480mm. The chainstays are 455 and grow to 460mm at sag. The bottom bracket is 348mm from the ground at a static height.

Right now, the frame is set up with mixed wheels and a 250x75mm shock that produces 215mm of travel. The linkage runs progressive to linear with a specifically tuned RockShox SuperDeluxe Coil. When asked about leverage curves, Vlad said that it's progressive at the start and then mellows out. It starts at 3.8 and drops to 2.8 at the sag mark, then relaxes around 2.6 for the remainder of the travel.

Of course, all of those numbers could change as the riding portion of the development gets underway. With the highly sensitive pivot points of the dual link suspension design, modular linkage components can be quickly swapped out to change the handling and shock kinematics.

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
The two-piece direct mount stem can be configured to tune the steering stiffness. By swapping the orientation of the left and right arms, riders can choose their preferred stiffness by using the same handlebar.

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
Tube in tube cable management is also new. The guides are bonded inside the tubes after the triangle is formed as to not disrupt the carbon compaction.

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
The rear triangle is from an XL Arrival and has a 455mm chainstay. One change is the cable routing, which now runs through the shock tunnel, instead of below the BB.

When asked about plans to race downhill World Cups, the crew at the booth just smirked at me.

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107 Comments
  • 132 3
 First look I thought it was a new bike from Guerrilla Gravity bike.
  • 3 0
 There is something very ‘Guerrilla Gravity’ about the tube profiles and the shock mount hardware.
  • 4 10
flag adminofthegapers (Jul 26, 2023 at 18:07) (Below Threshold)
 @Yuley95: with GG’s financial issues I wonder if we could see a brand like WAO take over their facilities
  • 2 8
flag sanchofula (Jul 26, 2023 at 18:44) (Below Threshold)
 @adminofthegapers: how do you know this to be true ? Don’t spread rumors unless it’s verified.
  • 9 8
 @sanchofula: price cuts on bikes (I know, it’s everywhere) plus dumping at least one influencer mid season plus seemingly large recent infrastructure investments in a bad marketplace seem to point to a rocky (hehe) future. I’m not sure anybody will be surprised if some smaller brands close down or sell to a bigger player in the mtb space, does seem awfully crowded nowadays.
  • 14 0
 @adminofthegapers: I think you're on to something. It's one thing to dump entitled brats that flex free swag (most brands have been doing this, understandably) and another thing to lose Yoann Barrelli. They must be in serious financial distress.
  • 6 0
 I was thinking the old Lapierre dh bike when Bruni was riding for them
  • 4 0
 @sanchofula: know this to be true??? he said i wonder if this is the case??
  • 1 0
 its a demo, wait its a sender, wait its a guerrilla gravity, wait its not a session!
  • 1 0
 @fentoncrackshell: crazy 50% sales on their website on descent builds.....
  • 3 0
 @sanchofula:

The dropping of Yoann Barrelli mid season is pretty telling. The way the announcement Yoann put out about it read (to me), was that GG was in a tough spot financially, they talked about it, and decided to part ways mid contract. The mid contract part is sort of weird.

Now, no idea how bad their financial troubles are (as they're definitely not alone in the "we have too many bikes" problem. But It does seem things are not "normal" over there atm either.

Also, holy crap, 50% off a Gnarvana with Zeb/SD ultimates, with codes, for an OTD price of $3200? Thats a pretty sweet deal actually.
  • 2 0
 @ocnlogan: can’t argue with that. I live in Whistler and before Yoann I hadn’t even heard of GG; since he joined there is a noticeable amount of their bikes in the Valley. The dude clearly increases sales so for them to drop him abruptly was unexpected to say the least
  • 81 15
 Really outdated design. The headtube cable routing is missing.
  • 23 2
 No triangular water bottle through the top tube either, unridable
  • 13 12
 Insert normal outrage about internalized headset routing not being an issue here. Yadda yadda.

Did you know my Trek Session has a BMX background?
  • 3 1
 but...but it's homebrewed cabron fibre
  • 65 0
 If they don't call it "The Departure", I'm gonna be upset
  • 4 2
 "The Departed" since they will have already taken off.
  • 2 1
 With the Jack Ryan themed names like Triad and Convergence the new wheels could be Cartel
  • 3 0
 I'm partial to "The Second Coming".
  • 21 4
 The 2014 GT Fury called....
  • 9 0
 And said it cracked on arrival?
  • 1 0
 No no, that had i-drive. This has, uh, i-drive but sideways
  • 10 2
 Sender called, they want their Canyon back. Don't know why, I first thought it's a custom Sender build. But WAO is in another league, they obviously rock.
  • 8 1
 Maybe this bike will be available to actually purchase before Canyon ever gets any Senders in.
  • 10 1
 Finally a new Norco A-Line. Jokes aside I'm sure it'll ride well.
  • 8 1
 I guess wheels are easy to make look good since they all have to be round...
  • 3 0
 Can't wait to see what this looks like in finished form. The Arrival is such a sick bike to look at and ride, hope this ends up the same.
  • 6 1
 I want to like it but can't
  • 2 0
 Luckily no one us asking you too haha its a prototype thats not going to be forsale.
  • 3 0
 So internal tubes are possible on the Arrival, maybe? Didn't they say it harmed the quality or something, so they didn't have tube-in-tube?
  • 4 0
 Build a prototype carbon dh frame to test a direct mount stem. Weird.
  • 4 1
 Great, now i have to go change my underwear!
  • 1 0
 Soon to be featured in the new Batman movie (starring whoever is left). But I suspect that the climbing scene will be difficult to film due to the slack seat post angle.
  • 1 0
 I dunno, but this reminds me of older versions of Norco (because I had one, I guess): www.norco.com/bike-archives/2011/a-line
  • 3 0
 Dope polished seatpost!
  • 3 1
 Sick I’ve been waiting for a direct mount stem to match their bars.
  • 1 0
 I am excited as well. Their bar at least psychosomaticly does something for me.
  • 3 1
 Carbon fiber fender is the best part, try to change my mind
  • 2 1
 Why bother?
  • 1 1
 I rode Vlads previous DH proto bike last summer - 200mm with a Fox 40. Super plush. Didn’t pedal well. I see he has made some big changes to it!
  • 4 1
 Weird a dh bike that doesn’t pedal welll….
  • 2 0
 Doesn't look like a session...
  • 1 0
 No but I bet it’s quite a turner.
  • 2 0
 as in dhr
  • 1 0
 Ah I didn’t see the lower link. But the shock driving bits, st angle
  • 1 0
 Anyone know what are those cable clips holding the lines together at the front? I've been looking for those forever.
  • 2 0
 Jagwire makes some
  • 1 0
 We are one is a buckethead endorsed company of fellow shredders!!!! Awesome

youtu.be/HkCEXrlfJ4E
  • 2 0
 Set of NSB Talons on there to finish it off
  • 1 0
 Looks like a lot of mud could be thrown at that coil over from the rear wheel.
  • 4 1
 Shapeless
  • 1 1
 Which Arrival has a 455 rear end?
If one of them did, I would have bought one a while back
  • 2 0
 They are using a rear end off an XL which in the 170 version of the Arrival, has a 450 rear center. They are getting the extra 5mm with the use of different links.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, website says 450 on the 170 XL.
  • 2 1
 @DeepDickens: Arrivals all use the same rear end, 130 to 170. The rear centres are all controlled by links.
  • 2 2
 It's like an old Specialized Demo and an old Norco Team DH had a baby and it came out carbon.
  • 2 0
 Looks like a Sequence...
  • 1 0
 If I can just find that picture with Dustin and Dave…
  • 1 1
 My lips are falling off my face by how rad this thing looks. Amazing is an understatement.
  • 1 0
 Right way to stress down tube
  • 2 1
 Early 00' Scott Octane DH is calling....
  • 1 0
 it looks small, like 2010 crammed on to your bike type of small.
  • 2 3
 I never knew I wanted a frame design with a perfectly level shock before but now I’ll take nothing less.
  • 2 1
 a 2017 Specialized Demo?
  • 1 0
 looks like a way better version
  • 1 0
 Last Gen Turner DHR?
  • 1 0
 Loved my Turner!
  • 2 2
 best looking DH bike Ive ever seen
  • 2 2
 Hello, has anyone realized this????

youtu.be/HkCEXrlfJ4E
  • 1 2
 Shock config boldly negates any potential suspension platform trickle-down to anything with a dropper.
  • 4 0
 @jomacba: f*ck droppers this is DH boi
  • 2 8
flag Blownoutrides (Jul 27, 2023 at 8:51) (Below Threshold)
 @luckynugget: DH bikes are rad boi. But barely anyone buys DH bikes cause barely barely anyone can use them unless their local is shuttle-able or the live next to a bike park. If this eventually grew a motor and battery and a dropper I could actually use it to self shuttle laps. E-DH could make 200mm DH bike design relevant for a lot more of us.
  • 4 0
 @Blownoutrides: *barely anyone where you live*
  • 1 4
 All that effort to run internal cables, on a prototype, and it still needs massive external cable clamps. I thought they were thinking outside the box and all that...
  • 1 2
 Refreshing to see no orange.
  • 6 7
 No bottle mounts
  • 6 6
 have you ever seen a downhill bike before?
  • 9 0
 @mariomtblt: Have you ever seen sarcasm before?
  • 3 0
 @mariomtblt: what’s a downhill bike?
  • 8 0
 Bottle mounts on a dh bike are legit idc what anyone says
  • 3 0
 @mariomtblt: I don't have a DH bike, but I will say that it's great having one of the small Fidlock bottles when riding park so I don't need to wear a hip pack for water on hot summer days. I missed having water when I rented a DH bike.
  • 2 0
 @dantecusolito: yep, fidlock with a small bottle on the dh is nice for the park
  • 1 0
 you can use zip ties to secure it to the shock absorber
  • 6 8
 Looks like a Gorilla
  • 15 3
 you spelled F-117 Nighthawk wrong
  • 3 0
 As in Guerilla (Gravity) or actually a Gorilla?coz I'm not seeing that
  • 2 1
 Waaay better looking than a Gorilla imo.
  • 4 0
 @Rocky-Alta: Could be either really.
  • 4 0
 @schlayer: maybe Gorilla Tape?!
  • 5 0
 @Hershay: To be fair I have a We Are One Arrival. Its by far the best looking bike I've ever owned. Its a true F-117 Nighthawk. I think that shock angle needs to change for aesthetic reasons.
  • 1 4
 obviously just an old demo haha
  • 2 5
 That is brutal. Not in the good way. Brutal.
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