We Are One's New Handlebar and 26" Carbon Rim - Sea Otter 2019

Apr 11, 2019
by Mike Levy  
Sea Otter 2019


Carbon fiber usually comes from Asia, right? Right, but it also comes from other places, including Canada. We Are One manufactures all of their carbon rims - and their new handlebar - at their Kamloops, BC, facility.


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Sea Otter 2019
We Are One says that the aluminum shim protects the carbon tube from clamping forces.


The new handlebar, tentatively named Da Bar, is a result of a collab with German brand 77Designz who came to We Are One with the idea to use an aluminum sleeve in the clamping zone. The concept sounds obvious now: To protect the carbon fiber from being damaged by the stem's clamp, and to spread out the forces as much as possible. The less obvious stuff is that the carbon bar is actually 33mm in diameter and that the aluminum sleeve takes up the rest to make a 35mm clamp zone.

The sleeve floats very slightly, too, which lets it end up in exactly the right spot, and there's a raised section in the carbon that keeps it in place until you clamp it in your stem.


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77Designz might have one of the best looking stems out there.


The handlebar pictured here weighs 250-grams, but We Are One says that they can get a bit more weight out of while still easily meeting the downhill testing standards. They're don't have an MSRP nailed down yet, but expect it to be in-line with other high-end carbon handlebars.


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We Are One's carbon rims are all made in-house at their Canadian facility.


Is that you reposting ''26 ain't dead'' under every article that mentions wheels? Turns out you're not wrong. We Are One showed me their new Coup carbon rim that they've made for dirt jumping and slope use.

There's a Canadian guy named Brett Rheeder who's pretty handy at both of those things, and the Coup is his signature rim that's been designed to have a relatively tight rim and tire bead interface to keep the tire on when rotations go too far or not far enough.


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Sea Otter 2019
Their entire range of rims has been revamped with new profiles and lower heights to offer more forgiveness.



128 Comments

  • + 114
 #26aintdead
  • + 31
 26" is the new bmx
  • + 98
 People with 26” ain’t buying new things! That’s why they still have 26.
  • + 10
 Still riding 26in wheels but wonder what happens when my fork goes out.......there is no more 26in suspension forks around. Guess i’ll be running 26in wheels on a 27.5 fork (?)
  • + 2
 @racecase: Received my 26" hardtail early May last year.
  • - 4
flag lesz42 (Apr 12, 2019 at 0:03) (Below Threshold)
 @SirWonky: not easy to get tires , and forks pretty much all gone, no R and D there
  • + 3
 @SirWonky: or just service it and replace what's broken.
  • + 10
 @lesz42: Schwalbe and Continental still make enough 26" tires. With the reduced crown offset, new 27.5 forks make perfectly fine 26" forks. Isn't this new Marzocchi Z2 fork available with 37mm offset? Last time I checked the Fox website (last year or so) they still had enough 26" specific forks too.

@SirWonky: Yeah I think for instance Cotic gives you geometries of their BFe26 frame (26" specific hardtail) with different forks, including 27.5" forks (with 26" wheels).
  • + 7
 @vinay: guess your right.....Fox is still making a 2019 - 831 fork (which is exactly what I would want) . Still running a 2017 -831 currently, serviced last year at Foxshox Cali

They also -strangely enough -have 2019 triple crown 40’s in 26in. Maximum respect to Fox (and everyone else) for holding down 26in for the street/dirt jump /slope/ freeride scene. (If Sram is making anything 26...it doesn’t show up on Jenson or Universal cycles websites).
  • + 7
 @SirWonky: get ahead of the curve and ride 27.5" front and 26" rear Wink

On a serious note: 27.5" fork with 26" tires is no problem. Otherwise, try to score a NOS Manitou Mattoc. Great fork and the first models can be converted between 26" and 27.5".
  • + 1
 Damnright Cotic BFe 26 with suntour 140mm 27.5fork. Awesome ride and cheap as f....
  • + 1
 Just got 34 Float 26” CTD to my DJ. Lowered the travel from 160 to 110. 200$ as new. The only thing to like about emergence of 27,5
  • + 0
 @SirWonky: I had regular 32 Float on my DJ for a moment, wouldn’t pay a penny for 831 built on same wobbly chassis. Perhaps pros put less stress on them than I do or maybe not...
  • + 3
 My forks say 27.5 on the legs but in fact they were their 26" lowers. Magura had/has a hard time keeping up with all these changing standards and back when the bigger wheels came around, they typically worked with smaller tire widths. So these 27.5x2.4" tires fit just fine in their 26x2.6" forks. They later moved on to dedicated 27.5 and 29" lowers though. They released an e-bike fork but then their OEM customers said "yeah great but we want boost". That's when they decided to stick with brakes until the industry has settled on what it wants for forks and wheelsizes. But yeah, 26" wheels fit just fine in 27.5" forks. As I mentioned, especially now that we're seeing reduced offset forks.

@WAKIdesigns : Didn't the 831 have the bushings spread further apart? That should help. Stanchion diameter doesn't matter much. That is, I'd be interested to see how stanchion flex compares to rotation due to play in the bushings, flex at the fork crown and all that. Larger diameter stanchions require a taller crown to stay put and I don't think they're giving them that.
  • + 7
 @lesz42: Not sure what you are talking about. Schwalbe makes pretty much their entire range in 26". Last year they released brand new tires (Racing Ray, Racing Ralph, Hans Dampf v2) in 26".
  • + 0
 @vinay: Stanchion diameter matters much. Like crown and axle interface. Come on Smile I am quite sure all non-F100 Fox 32s have same bushing spacing and it is not bigger than the one of 34s and 36 which go up to 160. 32 went to 150. and this is the one 831 has, I am quite sure (Zig zag on the arch, F100 has "empty" arch, apart from svelte crown) Just look at the length of lowers. And my 34 is definitely stiffer than 32. Had F100 with QR too and that was one damn wobble stick.
  • + 5
 @SirWonky: 26 rear, 650b front Big Grin
  • - 2
 27.5 is about to be dead too bruh
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Alright, fair enough. My 32mm forks probably flex less than yours (have held different fork lowers in my hands and the dual arch design does matter) but I'm not sure how I would notice it when riding, rocks rolling, tire deforming and me moving around too. I haven't measured how far my bushings are apart but with an 8mm allen key I could just reach and grease the lower bushing. The axle does matter of course, but all I've noticed is that when I was riding with a qr fork, there was a little movement of the axle causing the 190mm brake rotor to rub a little just like the rear tire would rub the frame when cornering (also qr) and/or when the rear would skitter around. I now have thru axles both ends and also went down to a 180mm rotor in the front. So I have not heard any rub ever since but other than that, flex never bothered me.

The same casting doesn't necessarily imply the same position for the lower bushing, as the step for the bushing is being machined after the casting. That said, of course chances are that bushing distances indeed are the same.
  • + 3
 @SirWonky: I have a 26" bike with a 27.5" fork - the axle to crown is a little higher, but it's fine.

As it's an older bike, I've got an angleset in there to tweak the geometry anyway.

Also allows me to run a 27.5" or 26" front wheel depending on how I feel. (best of both worlds?)

My other bike is also a 26" and i'm not planning on getting rid of that either, but am already eying up a replacement 27.5" fork for it
  • + 1
 @SirWonky: check DVO for 26 inch forks. I think they still have them
  • - 1
 @nojzilla: false x2
  • + 2
 @SirWonky: Just got a new 26inch Fox 40. Not sure about single crowns though.
  • + 1
 @racecase: Nope.
  • + 1
 @SirWonky: Or try the used market. Still a lot of nice forks out there.
  • + 1
 @lesz42: Try German online sites. I just bought some new Maxxis and Schwalbe 26" tires at hibike.com
  • + 3
 26 forever, ever!
  • + 4
 @racecase: 26 is what freeriders use. Its for anybody who prefers agility and air-time over racing. I bought a Knolly Delirium 27.5 last year, great bike but I miss my 26 wheels, I plan on buying a Banshee Darkside 26. Point is some styles of riding work better with 26 and it is good to see brands aren't completely ignoring that. However carbon rims seems like what racers would want, not the typical 26 by choice riders. A large range of pro-freeriders would agree with me. Hopefully, brands will make some more freeride bikes 26 capable. The issue is mountain bike companies think every bike has to be a race bike.
  • + 1
 Doesn’t fox still make a 26 specific fork?@SirWonky:
  • + 1
 @DeadThrone: Nah, it seems to be cyclic. Sometimes the focus is on race, then it is on freeride. I think the Specialized Demo9 originally was designed as a freerider (or hucker), they only later made the Demo8 a DH bike (and the Demo7 a freerider again). Currently indeed the focus seems to be on racing, especially now that enduro is a race discipline too. Then again the original Specialized Enduro SX from 2003 or so (the one Matt Hunter used to chase cows in The Collective and the one Anneke Beerten raced to second place in the Lissabon urban DH) really was a racebike (when Supercross was a thing) though the SX later became more of a freeride bike. It will come back, no question. Also, the industry has been messing with standards for pretty much everything so that I only trust the older standards because they've held up for a reason. I've spent a good bit on a high end 26" hardtail frame and I'm quite sure I can get my spares for well over a decade. More than a few tire and rim manufacturers have stated that they'll continue to produce parts for 26" wheels. I haven't read about any of them saying that about the two bigger sizes. That said, if they'd ever drop one of these it would raise the thorn of the community. But they've got more than enough sizes to juggle now and all with a good following. And then you have top athletes like Martin Maes saying wheelsize doesn't ever matter that much as long as the geometry is tuned for it. I think by now the industry realizes they've been biting their own tail, having to produce the same thing in a million variations. It really doesn't make us buy more stuff. It just puts their beloved physical shops out of business because these can never stock everything whilst catering only for a very local community.
  • + 4
 @SirWonky: rockshox , fox, and xfusion still do 26"
  • - 3
 Yeah they still use it for kids bikes
  • + 2
 @lesz42: Tons of 26" parts still avail, they just aren't shoved in your face like the new hottest trend.

Tire selection is alive and well, with very fair prices. Just bought 2 new DHF's, and each one was $30 less than a comparable 27.5" or 29" DHF, on the same shelf! Rock razor, Minion SS, DHF, Aggressor, name the hottest Enduro tire.. They make it.

R&D May not be there. But chances are if you're running 26", you aren't in it to win races anyways. But for the weekend warrior.. I can't tell a difference.
  • + 3
 @racecase: dirt jumpers still buy 26. i like tricks, thats why i still have a 26. new dt swiss ex 471s on profile elite hubs last year. $1000 rear wheel. guess you are not completely right
  • + 1
 @SirWonky:

Find an Vanila out on Ebay asap... Wink
  • + 32
 They look better quality than Enve.
  • + 44
 i don't know if thats the bar they should be going for
  • + 1
 Is that just because they look nice, or do you have experience with carbon layup?
  • + 3
 Thank the gods Dustin doesn't judge his product by Enve or we'd be riding a bag of shit
  • + 8
 Having owned both, they are. Love my Agents and will never go back to Brand E.
  • + 3
 @DrPete: found the dentist
  • + 4
 Having hit every rock on all the trails on 3 continents in the last year on my Agents, not even a spoke is come loose. (I did build the wheels myself)
I'd definitely welcome a little more compliance on the vibration front but i have no reason the try any other wheel anytime soon.
  • + 4
 @colincolin: found the jealous guy.
  • + 2
 @colincolin: at $575 Canadian per rim, I would say they are pretty affordable compared to many options that are made in Asia even.

Especially affordable compared to Enve, that will cost you in the range of $1300-1400 per rim, for a compatible rim.

And they are very fine rims. I see no reason to buy Enve and spend that much more.
  • + 26
 Nice handlebar display. Did they partner with Robot Bikes too?
  • + 5
 It is Atherton bikes now, keep up please !
  • + 12
 pb trolling the trolls
  • + 3
 exactly what I was thinking... massive sales for those 26" rims.. keep your day job though.
  • + 6
 I often wonder how many levels of trolling are currently happening to me.
  • + 9
 No 24” rims? WTF???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
  • + 4
 @Levelheadsteve still trying to find a new rim for your good old Big hit?
  • + 1
 I've a pair of Intense Mag DH 24" rims for sale which I've not got around to selling. They're in great shape. Interested?
  • + 4
 I have over a year on their Insider rims. Quality is fantastic. I think I still own a spoke wrench, but it’s been collecting dust since I built these. Ride quality is already excellent on gen1.
  • + 3
 Same here. All sorts of flats and bend problems with my last 27.5 aluminum rims including a warranty replacement. Seven months on Insiders and I've had a single walkout from a violent crash that destroyed the tire but left no rim damage.

I happen to need 26" wheels for my other bike and I think I'm going to hit up Dustin again for these.
  • + 5
 Can you use a "slopestyle rim" for just normal mountain biking? or is it just a normal rim that people (Rheeder) use for slopestyle.
  • + 14
 Absolutely not. What is this- mtbr?!
  • + 1
 Yeah, but it's going to be beefier/heavier compared to a normal rim. The whole reason they're doing a 26" wheel is for Brett.
  • + 1
 Yes, and you can use a DH rim for trail riding too. Doesn't mean it's a good idea. It's going to be heavy AF.
  • + 5
 Yes 27.5 and 29 is faster. 26 is more fun. With 26 inch wheels body English is your game. Bigger wheels just sit down and monster truck through everything. Boring.
  • + 1
 Cannot upvote enough!
  • + 6
 Made in Canada. They make a 26 inch wheel. I luv these guys!
  • + 2
 The Bike Industry sales of 27,5, 29ers have peaked! They are ramping up E-bikes for their next trick to keep up with the Motorcycle, CAR, and Electric Industries jump to E-Bikes .....just look around SEA OTTER.
  • + 2
 I'm digging the new profile of the rims, I got a set of the Agents a couple of months ago, now I'm thinking I should have waited, but they had an awesome sale (for a carbon wheelset) going on and couldn't resist.
  • + 3
 My 27.5 outliers are still going strong! I havant even had to tighten the spokes in over 6 months of use, good luck saying that with other brands or ALU wheels.
  • + 1
 I haven't tightened mine in years, they're bloody loose as a goose but
  • + 5
 That stem definitely looks amazing
  • + 1
 Ya, more info on that stem would be great as well
  • + 3
 But the 2-bolt bar clamp is a deal-breaker for me.
  • + 1
 77designz.com/de/vorbauten/100-stem-35-37

Not sure where to find the raw version ..
  • + 2
 But if you want a really neat stem watch out for the intend grace....
www.intend-bc.com/products/stems/grace-en

German cnc'd engineering. That thing is light as paper and rocksolid, so Enduro/dh is no problem. Quality is more than on point. But you pay for that.
  • + 2
 @PhilBoss: yeah i agree, I went to the website and was disappointed. The raw one looks way nicer than the two-tone versions they have for sale.
  • + 1
 @KennyWatson: Doesnt look like the two-tone version on the 44 designz site is the same as the one in this article - its a completely different design, a new stem entirely perhaps.
  • + 5
 The 26" resurgence has begun!
  • + 2
 They've never been away. Not sure about other cavemen though, but as someone who rides 26" wheels in mountainbikes (and 24" rear in one of these) I don't quite see myself run carbon rims in my bikes unless they provide some advantage (and weight saving and stiffness increase don't count as an advantages to me). Anyone here running carbon rims in a 26" BTR or Cotic BFe26? Only posh bike I could think of would be the smaller Liteville bikes, but then again they (Syntace) already have carbon 26" rims. Local produce (and not caring about carbon then)? Being from Europe. Mavic, DT Swiss and Ryde make their metal rims right here.
  • + 1
 @vinay: I've contemplated it on the bfe... But came to the same conclusion you have.
  • + 4
 I'm waiting for the 670mm handlebar to fit with their 26'' rims
  • + 2
 Very interested to see the MSRP and a review or two of those wheels, lookin pretty good already!
  • + 2
 I'm sure they will be matched to their other main line MSRP rims
  • + 3
 Need geo on those bars. I don’t roll with anything but 9/5
  • + 2
 And that's why all my bikes have Deity bars.
  • + 3
 Handlebar stem combo looks amazing
  • + 1
 Awww damn. I can bling out my DJ with these and I9 hubs to show the kids at the skate park/pump track that I have way more money than skill!
  • + 1
 @mikelevy any word on how they are protecting the aluminum shim from corroding? Seems Al, carbon and sweat would be a pretty good environment for that.
  • + 3
 What's the difference from current - your carbon bars are already sitting in an alloy stem?
  • + 1
 @privateer-wbc: Probably that it is completely sleeved like a carbon seatpost in an aluminum frame. Even though clamped on either side, the small gap in the shim center can have a capillary effect, creating the perfect environment for this chemical reaction. The complete sleeving of the bar means that there is a stronger electro-chemical potential (think of it as a bigger guage wire). Carbon frame manufacturers shield their alu BB shells (and other parts) with non-conductive fiberglass for this reason. What's their response @mikelevy?
  • + 3
 DaBomb is gonna be pissed.
  • + 1
 Rodas 26 sempre seram a melhor alternativa para os verdadeiros freerides , 26 para sempre.
  • + 2
 Looks great guys! Have a great Sea Otter!
  • + 2
 Isn't that the intend grace stem ?
  • + 2
 No it isn't
  • + 2
 We need compliant handlebars grouptest!
  • + 1
 If ya think that stem is the best looking out there I'd suggest having a look at the works components one. Drool worthy.
  • + 1
 Those rims look great! I think I know what I’ll be getting when I buy my 29er Big Grin
  • + 2
 I'll wait on the 36ers, new standard just around the corner!
  • + 1
 I like the aluminum shim integrated into the bar. Carbon bars always scratched at the stem clamp.
  • + 3
 i live on 26 generation.
  • + 1
 Sounds like a recipe for creaking.
  • + 1
 Still loving my Agent wheel, the handlebar looks awesome.
  • + 2
 I have one of the early sets of Agent rims and they still look amazing. By far the best set of carbon rims available in my opinion.
  • + 1
 Is it a spy shot of the new Athertons Bike on the first pic?
  • + 1
 Man that’s a grace rip off stem
  • + 4
 Doesn't need a spatula though
  • + 0
 I find it hard to believe anybody riding 26s wants carbon rims, especially a slope rider. Doesn't make sense to me.
  • + 1
 Brett Rheeder disagrees.
  • + 1
 I want one for my DH bike. mullet bike here I come!
  • + 1
 Did someone not measure the molds and just said yeh make 500 of those
  • + 1
 Those rims look zippy. Bet you'd moto on those things...
  • + 1
 Where does the actual carbon come from? Is it Japan?
  • + 3
 From what I've read they source all their carbon from the US.
  • + 2
 Yep North America sourced.
  • + 1
 Wow nice stuff! 77Designz with the piece of art again! 3
  • + 1
 told you so
  • - 1
 Sweet! Now if we can just get our 80mm travel bikes back with 8 speed triples and fixed posts, and we're golden!
  • + 2
 The thought of that scares me.
  • + 1
 Beer caps on stems......
  • + 1
 26 is so 90s...
  • - 1
 Sunringle Double Wide is back. And it is carbon Smile
  • + 1
 and it was aweful the first time around
  • - 1
 @optimumnotmaximum: But it proved how much shitty alloy you need to make a rim strong. It was but I had Double Track and even at 800g it was a freaking noodle. Had it on my HT and I was bending it all the time. These days? I have a hard time bending EX471 with narrower profile at 470g! Singletracks? Noodles! I bet ArchMk3 is stronger. Got Double Track because I wasted Single Track right away. Cheap alexrims were better.
  • + 1
 That's just the way the light is hitting the rims. I can assure you, these are NOT carbon doublewides!
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: i had one in 24 inch with a 2.6 gazza. in an austrian dh race there was a tiny creekgap everyone cased. only two rims got destroyed mine and another doublewide -i went back to 521 in 26 inch. end of grandpas warstory
  • + 2
 @billyjack: It was a joke
  • - 1
 Or... and bear with me here, you just make the handlebar out of aluminium.
  • + 5
 Al the aluminum bars tested don't match the longevity of a carbon bar on the testing rig
  • - 3
 I will never ride carbon parts

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