WELCOME TO THE 2021
PINKBIKE VALUE BIKES FIELD TRIP
5 hardtails & 5 full-suspension bikes under $3,000 put to the test on the Sunshine Coast
Words by Sarah Moore, photography by Tom Richards
While the
last Field Test was full of carbon fiber, electronics, and the high price tags that come with all that fancy stuff, this time around we’re all about value-minded trail bikes. Of course, it's no secret that if you spend a couple months' salary on a top-of-the-line bike, it's going to work really well. It’s definitely not as simple when your budget tops out at $3,000 USD, like the ten bikes that we rode on the Sunshine Coast for two weeks as a part of the 2021 Value Bikes Field Trip.
That's right, this year, we weren't able to head down to Sedona, Arizona, to do our testing, so we took a staycation on the Sunshine Coast instead. We're pretty lucky to have an amazing network of trails just a quick ferry ride away that were perfect for testing these value trail bikes when the trails in Squamish were covered in snow. What worked, what didn't, what's worth upgrading - you'll be able to watch and read about all our findings in the coming days.
Yep, it's this green in February on the Sunshine Coast.
Our stable included five hardtails, all of which cost less than $1,700 USD, while our five full-suspension trail bikes started at $2,300 and topped out at three grand. All of the full-suspension bikes had less than 135mm of rear travel, and this time we included a record five hardtails in the mix. Don't worry, they were all still subjected to the infamous Huck to Flat, as well as the Impossible Climb and the Efficiency Test. There are also roundtable discussions for both groupings of bikes.
These ten trail bikes saw endless Haribo and hot chocolate fuelled testing miles on the Sunshine Coast, and below is how we did it.
5 Full-Suspension Value Trail Bikes
Evaluating different mountain bikes properly calls for a ton of back-to-back riding, and that's especially true if we're going to compare them against each other, which is exactly what the Field Trip series is all about. So that's how we did it, with each bike facing the same 20-minute-ish course over and over again over a two-week period, a course that was carefully selected to tell us as much as possible about how the bikes perform.
While the lap is relatively short for testing purposes, the testing time added up after a solid two weeks of doing it over and over again.
Roberts Creek mountain biking trailsWe believe that it’s important to evaluate these bikes on terrain that they’re intended for, which certainly isn’t the triple-black runs with a 50-percent chance of survival. The first half of our test lap was a rooty singletrack climb that transitioned into a wider, smoother gravel climb. The climb took up about three-quarters of our 20-minute lap, and was followed by a descent that, while perfectly suited to what these trail bikes are capable of, make their suspension work and separated the good from the not-as-good. Since these bikes aren't meant to fly down trails as fast as possible, timing wasn't a factor in this Field Trip.
Green room laps all day.
A lot of our testing is (and always will be) us simply riding the hell out of the bikes and then telling you all about it, but it never hurts to sprinkle in a bit of science to the process. Actually, calling it pseudo-science is probably more accurate. And yes, it turns out that it does hurt - our Efficiency Test required me to do countless laps up a steep gravel road while holding a steady 250-watts on all ten test bikes to see which suspension design made me work the least over a timed course. The top three were pretty close, can you guess how much rear travel they had?
The Impossible Climb is back, of course, partly because it's good entertainment, but also because these are trail bikes and, well, tricky uphills are something most riders are going to encounter on an average ride. We blew the censorship budget last time around, so this time I got to practice tricky technical climb again, and again, and again. Luckily, it wasn't raining and there
were no cactus for this Impossible Climb, although the roots were extremely slick and I may have had my only crash of the Field Trip at 2km/h.
Nothing like a sunset over the ocean.
And speaking of falling, even though these bikes are inexpensive and half of them don't have any rear suspension, they don't get a
free pass on the Huck to Flat, either, although we did bring some ice for Jason Lucas' ankles. No, we're certainly not aiming to break any of them (in fact, we'd rather not, safety third!), but we do want to show you what's happening to the bikes when they use all of their suspension travel. To do that, we brought out the Phantom camera for those ultra-slow-mo glory shots that I know you want to see.
As you might imagine, watching what an inexpensive hardtail compress at 1,000 frames-per-second is quite revealing and, depending on your armchair opinion, maybe a bit worrying.
Sarah MooreHeight: 5'7" / 170cm
Weight: 160 lbs / 72.6 kg
Notes: Content manager, too fast to be so nice
Mike LevyHeight: 5'10" / 178 cm
Weight: 155 lb / 70.3 kg
Notes: Tech editor, gas station snack connoisseur
A big part of evaluating these value bikes is figuring out how ready for action these bikes are right out the box. The thing with not wanting to spend a ton of money is that, well, you probably don’t want to spend a bunch of money on upgrades a few weeks after you buy one of these things. We paid special attention to the spec of these bikes and boil down what might need to be changed or upgraded down the road on each of our ten test bikes.
Speaking of changing, one thing we didn't do this time around is put identical control tires on all our test bikes. The idea here is to compare these value bikes as they are sold by the manufacturer, not as they might be if you spent another $250 on over-priced rubber.
Welcome to the 2021 Value Bike Field Trip. As with all of our Field Tests and Trips, there’s a crew behind the cameras who are working ten times as hard as us to make these things happen. Stay tuned for all the videos, and remember to subscribe to the channel so you don’t miss any of them.
Field Trip was filmed prior to current B.C. travel restrictions. All filming was done in accordance with Provincial health orders.
The 2021 Pinkbike Field Test was made possible with support from Toyota.
so he WAS alive when this was filmed...
Hope he wasn't Clarkson-ized
I believe Seb had new content appear on his old site, after he moved over to PB, so it is still possible.
The podcast experience is one thing but, confine to a particular location, without rest bite, may well have created a homicide situation.
I heard a rumour he moved on to NSMB as Director of Spy photography.
Smart! When they find the body now this guy Tim H. gets the blame.
Well played!
Buy what makes you happy and you’ll be able to justify why, cost or source country.
I do not agree that it’s fair to say that just because it’s made overseas it is of a lower quality.
You are welcome to be proud your bike is made in your homeland but don’t assume local means the best quality
“Importing crap” from overseas has a negative tone to it. So my thought you were referencing overall quality is a correct inference. Questionable labor and environmental policy is a similar vein. The thought that some how by doing it here you are doing it better just makes me shake my head especially after stating that you’d be concerned that they’d cut corners on cost. Sort of confirming what I’m saying. Doesn’t matter where your bike is from when the vast majority of your purchase comes from non-domestic suppliers. Sure you put $300 of margin into devinci’s pocket but you also put more into Component suppliers not made there.
I bet the Devinci worker appreciates a job as much as the next guy, but I bet they’d fall upwards into a more lucrative career path welding something other than bicycle frames. Just a hunch.
I think you’re confusing me with another user. The only thing in your post I said was the cutting corners thing. Reread what I said. I was referring to Devinci having to cut corners to stay competitive, not the over seas manufacturing. I bought the Devinci because I feel it’s a competitive product that supports local. For some reason you have a problem with this. You’re so confused.
Makes me wonder if they are still being subsidized by the Canadian government...
www.mtbr.com/threads/rockshox-35-gold-rl-disassemble-%E2%80%93-whats-inside.1142709
The 35 comes on mostly cheaper bikes though where a year or two ago they would have speced a RockShox Recon or worse a Judy. Having just come off a bike with a Recon RL the 35 is a nice improvement in stiffness and is definitely smoother and more supple over both small and large impacts.
Not having rent,foods and bills to pay helps a lot with saving money
that's how I bought my first hardtail 15years ago
E.g., on the left part of the country, California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado and Arizona are all $12+/hr minimum wage states.
At $12/hr fulltime, you'd take home about $400/wk. It'd take you 6.25 weeks working fulltime at $12/hr to save up $2,500.
If the federal minimum-wage from 1970 was inflation-adjusted, it would be about $12/hr today. If the federal minimum wage were adjusted for increased productivity, it would be about $24/hr today.
One of the biggest disparities is the cost of housing. In 1980 - the average 2-bedroom rent in the US was $308. Today, that's up over 5x to $1,588. The Federal minimum wage was $3.10/hr in 1980. It's $7.25 today, up just 2.3x while the cost of housing is up over 5x.
TL;DR: By many measures, minimum-wage workers in the United States are less well-off than they were 40 years ago. Raising the minimum wage isn't some kind of socialist agenda, it's "the 1980s shouldn't be the high-water-mark for American prosperity."
From the abstract: "almost all point to negative employment effects, both for the United States as well as for many other countries... the studies that focus on the least-skilled groups provide relatively overwhelming evidence of stronger disemployment effects for these groups."
Because I know you'll google rebuttals to this metastudy, there is a 1993 study by Krueger et al that studied what happened when NJ raised their minimum wage, and they found no negative effects. The problem is they just phone surveyed a few hundreds small businesses and asked them if they planned on reducing their employment, and somehow that is considered academic research these days.
TL;DR: The summation of 50 years of studying minimum wages has found a small (because most minimum wages are too low to be binding and only affect marginalized communities that don't get picked up by statistic collection agencies, like illegal aliens) but statistically significant effect that minimum wages reduce employment for the poorest in society. There also is 0 credible evidence that minimum wages have any effect on poverty reduction, and some decent evidence it raises poverty (due to increases in unemployment).
If you want, I can cite over a dozen studies, including several by the CBO, that reach these same conclusions.
Is it more fun for everyone (average Joe and Pro alike) if during a big mass start dh race we all start at the same place at the same time? Or, would it be more exciting for everyone if those who were slower got a head start?
Some people will think, nah it’s more exciting if we start at the same time, and the people who are good will do good and those who do bad will do bad and everyone will just enjoy the competition or not in their own way. Others will think, it’s way more fun if there’s a chance you could beat Gee Atherton to the bottom and he’ll have more fun trying to actually still beat you and we’ll all just enjoy it being a bit more fair and that won’t make anyone lose motivation to race.
Yeah, not a perfect analogy but at least we’re back to talking about bikes
a) the increasing disparity between cost of housing and minimum wage,
b) the average 2-bedroom rent in the US of currently $1,588, or
c) the 1980 $3.10/hr Federal minimum wage?
Help a brother out. Thanks.
There really isn't a debate in the economic field as to the effects of minimum wages. They, like any artificial price inflation, reduce demand. This phenomenon has been observed in countless studies across the globe, in developed economies and developing economies. Its as clearly established as the theory that free trade reduces prices and increases product availability.
There are political economists that try really, really hard to justify raising the minimum wage. One of them is Nobel Prize winner (in economics) Paul Krugman. In the public sphere, he has been advocating for the raising of minimum wages for years. HOWEVER, in his own academic literature, when hes writing as an economist, not a pundit, he writes, "So what are the effects of increasing minimum wages? Any Econ 101 student can tell you the answer: The higher wage reduces the quantity of labor demanded, and hence leads to unemployment.” In his own Economics 101 textbook that he authors, he writes, "when the minimum wage is above the equilibrium wage rate, some people who are willing to work—that is, sell labor—cannot find buyers—that is, employers—willing to give them jobs."
This comment is long enough already, so I'll try to avoid ranting. You can believe anything you want to, and grown, educated individuals can both honestly disagree about something, but don't assume I'm uneducated on this. Don't assume I'm uninformed. And don't assume there isn't a mountain of economic evidence that raising prices reduces demand.
So we look at bikes like the Meta AM origin, The Capra comp build, Polygon, Basic Slash etc. Its not really telling the full picture when the reviews of Sub 3000 bikes always = Short travel. Less money doesn't have to equal less travel. SHOW ME THE CHEAP LONG TRAVEL BIKES!! okay thats all thx
But no doubt the best EN for $3k would likely be the Ibis Ripmo AF with DVO setup.
Don't get me wrong - I'm stoked that when shit went sideways, people decided that getting out to play in the woods was a good thing. I'm stoked we have a bunch of new riders joining us, not just so there are more people to ride with, but also to build and advocate for access. But it sure would be nice if the supply side could catch up so if you break something, or wear something out, it's not weeks or months before you're back out on the trails.
Pedalling/climbing ability while seated is more closely related to effective top tube. steeper seat angles mean ETT can stay the same while reach grows.
Also your 2014 scale was probably specced with about a 100mm stem, which will grow the saddle to bar measurement.
@kcy4130:
Thanks to you both. A bunch of it must be in the steeper seat angle. I understood the slacker ht coming from the scale, but even though the scout has a pretty slack ht angle, it's on the slacker side of modern seat tube angles. Also, now I can visualize the reach vs ETT relationship.
But I really wish you included the Commencal Meta TR to compare it against the Ibis Ripley AF. Mostly because it won the Field Trip Award last year. But also because like every fourth bike you see on the trails here is now a Commencal, whereas Ibis... They are so niche that I'm not even sure if they have dealerships in continental Europe.
We ended up getting a 2021 Norco Fluid FS1. Decent bike with good beginner geometry (66 HTA / 76 STA) but @norcobicycles, please shave off a few pounds.
Dropping 600+ grams of rotating weight for $300 and getting a hub with decent engagement was pretty transformative to the riding experience and I doubt the weight other places will bother ya. Didn't me anyway.
Oh yah, and save up cash for some new rotors when it's time to replace pads. Go with metallic pads and rotors that can handle them and it takes those brakes from fine unless it's steep to pretty damn good anywhere.
Other than those two items pretty hard to find things for me to complain about, particularly since I picked my up 2020 for $2k barely used in Fall 2020 before COVID made everything bike related skyrocket in price.
I switched Deb 2020 from a 2002 71.5 HTA Gary Fisher to a 65 HTA Optic ... THAT was big change. Besides the geometry, everything else was different too. lol
But new geometry is much more capable and forgiving - riding steep HTA rigid frame bikes means it would help to pick a line, and not smash through stuff.
I made a short-list of FS bikes and asked a knowledgeable friend's advice, and the dominant deciding factor for them was whether the bike had single pivot rear suspension or not (Vitus Mythique and Norco Fluid FS3 were preferred since they're not single pivot). I've read about the difference in ride characteristics but honestly don't understand how that would feel in real life, and then I've read great things about Polygon Siskiu and Marin Rift Zone (both single pivot). So, field tests like this are very educational for me on all that stuff!
And as both a Canadian and a Californian, thank you for pronouncing it muh-RIN, and not MARE-in. :-)
Oh, sorry, I thought we were posting that in all comment sections.
"Field Trip was filmed prior to current B.C. travel restrictions. All filming was done in accordance with Provincial health orders."
PA was once accurately described as Philadelphia and Pittsburgh at either end, with Alabama in between.
BC's COVID cases are higher now than they've ever been during the pandemic. A moving average of ~1,100 per day, compared to a previous high of just under 800-per-day in late November / Early December.
The province also just set a new record for people hospitalized, though deaths are down significantly since their December peak, likely due to the vaccine rollout among the most vulnerable elderly population.
On the vaccine front, just under 20% of BC residents have gotten at least 1 dose. For comparison's sake, just across the border in Washington State, 40% of residents have gotten at least 1 dose.
However, just 2% of BC residents are "fully vaccinated" with 2-doses, compared with just under 24% across the border in Washington.
Moving from facts to my own perspective: I expect just like the rest of the world, BC residents are experiencing COVID-fatigue, and ready to get back to normal life. The fact of watching their neighbors to the south, who in general handled COVID much more poorly, get back to something like normal life sooner thanks to more ready vaccine access, probably doesn't help matters.
Stay safe. Hopefully, we'll all be back to freely licking the door handles at White Spot here in a few months.
@fabwizard - wow, just wow, that escalated quickly.
I got older... I no longer feel the need to spill gasoline on those discussions. I don’t even know how... Come on folks, saving the world with comments is quite overrated.
But another reason may be the growing concern over the health risks of the vaccines. Many people here do not want to take them at all, especially given that the virus has now mutated and the efficacy of the vaccines is much lower on the new variants.
In general, I think it's fair to say that BC and Canada handled COVID, from its inception to the availability of vaccines, much better than most parts of the U.S.
The pandemic definitely brought issues of local manufacture and supply to the forefront, related to N95 masks and other supplies early on, and now the vaccines needed to end the pandemic.
The N95 issue is a good example. The U.S. under Trump wanted to force 3M to keep all its N95 orders in the country before 3M pointed out that it needed pulp from a mill on Vancouver Island to make those masks, and Canada probably wouldn't be very forthcoming with those shipments if they weren't going to get any of the N95s back.
During the first part of the pandemic, the U.S. also had a leader who totally discounted our closest allies and did tremendous (hopefully temporary) damage to those relationships.
On the other hand, I think the criticism that Trudeau's been facing for a country as wealthy and advanced as Canada to have zero local vaccine manufacturing capabilities is absolutely warranted.
A. how the virus infects other cells in a human body
B. what type of anti bodies moderna and pfizer vaccines create in a human body
C. what the israeli and the brits(with their inefficient vaccine) managed to realize in their countries.
That does not mean they don't work. It means that they don't work as well. I dont think anyone is saying that they work as well on the variants as they do on Covid 19.
Also, because we are so far behind in vaccinations it is still to easy for the virus and the new variations to keep spreading.
Your comment is still shite. I pity you.
You’re either an ass or ride a titanium bike.
Possibly both.