What Are People Riding Now? - Whistler Closing Weekend 2015

Oct 19, 2015
by Rose Oakhill  
Last weekend saw the closing of the Whistler Bike Park. With over 125,000 visits this summer, the lifts have stop turning for a short period of time before the mountain gives way to winter. We thought that we'd head back to the lift lines and see how things had changed over the course of the last 5 months.

Check out our Opening Weekend Stats.

Overall the Demo is continuing its reign as the bike park bike of choice, a stat that hasn't changed since we started doing this in 2012. Across Brakes, Derailleurs and Wheel/ Tire choice, the order hasn't seen any substantial changes, but there were some higher percentages from the RockShox Pike and Fox 36 Fork along with SRAM Guide and Shimano XT brakes, owed to the number of "All Mountain" bikes appearing in the line-up. Female riders also saw an increase of 9% from when we surveyed on opening weekend. The stat that I'm sure most of you are eager to see has been left till last and I will let you make your own summaries.

Rental bikes were not included in our survey


With a packed line-up Sunday and a broad variety of bikes to choose from we extended the frame category to 200 bikes instead of the usual 100 to give you an even better taste of just what people were riding.

Frames:
Specialized Demo 11%
Giant Glory 9.5%
Norco Aurum 6.5%
Santa Cruz V10 4%
Trek Session 4%
Giant Reign 3.5%
Rocky Mountain Flatline 3.5%
Devinci Wilson 3.5%
Knolly Podium 3%
Scott Gambler 2.5%
GT Fury 2%
Giant Trance 2%
Transition Bottlerocket 1.5%
Knolly Chilcotin 1.5%
Commencal Supreme 1.5%
Transition TR500 1.5%
Transition TR450 1%
Intense 951 1%
Norco Traux 1%
NS Fuzz 1%
Specialized SX Trail 1%
Norco Range 1%
Kona Stinky 1%
Banshee Legend 1%
Rocky Mountain Altitude 1%
Norco Range 1%
Devinci Spartan 1%
Kona Process 1%
Santa Cruz Nomad 1%
Santa Cruz Driver 8 1%
Rocky Mountain Slayer 1%
Commencal Meta 1%
Morpheus Loki 1%
Kona Entourage 1%
Norco Shore 1%
Kona Operator .5%
Zerode .5%
Foes Hydro .5%
Banshee Darkside .5%
Norco Aline .5%
Intense M9 .5%
Specialized Status .5%
Scott Voltage .5%
Specialized Enduro .5%
Specialized Bighit .5%
Kona Dawg .5%
Ghost AMR .5%
Ghost Cagua .5%
Norco 6 .5%
IBIS HD3 .5%
Evil Insurgent .5%
Orange 5 .5%
Kona Minxy .5%
Orange 224 .5%
Transition Patrol .5%
Rocky Mountain Maiden .5%
Pivot Pheonix .5%
Trek Remedy .5%
Marin Attack Trail .5%
Intense Uzzi .5%
Ironhorse Sunday .5%
Yeti SB6c .5%
Transition TR250 .5%
Devinci 8 Flat 8 .5%
Morewood Izumi .5%
Norco Team .5%
Knolly Endorphin .5%
Santa Cruz Bullit .5%
Ghost DH .5%
Devinci Troy .5%
Norco Fluid .5%
Trek Lush .5%
CCM Nitro .5%
Xprezzo Adhoc .5%
???? Hurricane .5%




Forks:
RockShox Boxxer (all models)31%
Fox 40 (all models)23%
Fox 369%
RockShox Pike9%
Marzocchi 55/667%
Marzocchi 8887%
RockShox Lyrik3%
Manitou Dorado2%
BOS Idylle2%
Marzocchi 380 (all models)1%
RockShox Argyle1%
RockShox Revelation1%
RockShox Totem1%
RockShox Recon1%
Fox 341%
X Fusion Vengeance1%




Rear Shocks:
Fox DHX (all models, inc X2)24%
RockShox Vivid Coil16%
Fox Float RP239%
Fox Van8%
Cane Creek DB Coil8%
Fox Float X (inc X2) 6%
Marzocchi Rocco6%
RockShox Monarch Plus4%
RockShox Kage3%
RockShox Vivid Air2%
RockShox Monarch2%
X Fusion Vector Coil/td>2%
Cane Creek DB Air2%
Marzocchi Moto C2R2%
Ohlins2%
Hardtail2%
X Fusion Vector Air1%
Manitou Revox1%




Brakes:
Avid Code (all models)19%
Shimano Saint17%
Shimano Zee12%
SRAM Guide12%
Avid Elixir (all models)9%
Shimano XT9%
Avid XO4%
Shimano Deore4%
Avid Juicy3%
Hayes 92%
Formula RX2%
Shimano SLX2%
Shimano XTR1%
Hayes Stroker1%
Avid V Brake1%
Formula Oro1%
Hope V21%

DERAILLEURS
SRAM Typer 2 rear derailleur w Cage Lock

Derailleurs
SRAM X923%
SRAM XO21%
Shimano Saint13%
Shimano Zee10%
Shimano SLX8%
SRAM X75%
SRAM XO1 DH4%
Shimano XT4%
SRAM X53%
Shimano Deore3%
Missing Derailleur2%
SRAM XX12%
Shimano XTR1%
Single speed tensioner1%




Front and Rear's are counted, each 1 is .5%
Rims
SunRingle18%
Mavic10%
DT Swiss10%
Stan's9%
Easton8%
Spank8%
WTB7%
Alex Rims5%
ENVE5%
Specialized Roval4%
Syncros3%
Novatec2%
Giant2%
Bontrager2%
Kore1%
Transition Revolution1%
Dartmoor1%
Raceface1%
Reynolds1%
SRAM1%
Nukeproof1%

Tires:
Maxxis Minion DHF29%
Schwalbe Magic Mary15%
Maxxis High Roller 210%
Specialized Butcher7%
Maxxis Minion DHR7%
Bontrager G45%
Maxxis High Roller4%
Continental Kaiser3%
Kenda Nevagal3%
Mxxis Shorty2.5%
Schwalbe Hans Dampf2%
Maxxis Ardent2%
Kenda Excavator1.5%
Bontrager XR41%
Schwalbe Muddy Mary1%
Specialized Storm1%
Maxxis Wetscream1%
Specialized Fast Track1%
WTB Vigilante1%
Schwalbe Fat Albert1%
Kenda Factor.5%
WTB Stout.5%
Nokian ???.5%
Specialized Slaughter.5%

Body Armour - Anything in addition to Knee Pads:
Yes42%
No58%


Packs:
Packs25%
No Pack75%


26inch v 27.5inch DH Bikes :
26inch72%
27.5inch28%

Check out our stats from the Whistler Bike Park from Opening Weekend


MENTIONS: @Specialized / @SramMedia / @foxracingshox / @Maxxis




253 Comments

  • 259 3
 People still riding the Norco Shore and Kona Stinkys...you da real MVPs...
  • 35 1
 and Santa Cruz Driver 8.
  • 52 0
 More guys on Transition Bottlerockets than their DH bikes. I thought I would have seen a lot more Kona Operators in there.
  • 5 1
 No Mondraker Summum either?
  • 35 0
 bottle rockets are just too hard to kill, they'll be riding bikeparks for years!
  • 6 0
 @nosnibor, no north american distribution for Mondraker.
  • 2 0
 Shit what about the guy on the fluid... Talk about acary
  • 5 58
flag lawnweenies1 (Oct 19, 2015 at 14:41) (Below Threshold)
 26 is dead
  • 4 1
 I'm shocked that even pinkbike don't know what a Nokian tyre is!
  • 10 2
 Where tha coves at???
  • 31 0
 some guy shredding the ccm nitro
  • 7 2
 I still ride a Transition Bottlerocket with a Rockshox Totem
  • 7 1
 go do your homework Jared. @jpennington
  • 1 1
 I don't know about those bikes being Minimum Viable Products, there was a lot of metal on those things - hardly minimal! And it's even questionable if they're viable.
  • 5 1
 YES! 26"!
  • 1 0
 No Canfield Jedy either?
  • 1 0
 Long Live the BULLIT! I guess they really were indestructible frames. My 02 Bullit is still being trashed by my lil grom friend. He is constantly nose casing and and abusing the bike, but it just wont quit. It still has the original suspension on it front and back, albeit they are both blown.
  • 148 29
 26 ain't dead. Suck it bike companies!!
  • 84 16
 27.5 did grow 18% since the beginning of the season...
  • 154 55
 Sorry, 26" is dead. It's just that the body is still warm.
  • 22 27
flag rrsport (Oct 19, 2015 at 12:20) (Below Threshold)
 @younghoffy exactly... start of next season will be another 18% growth. I was always a hater of 27.5 until the new bike I got supplied had them. Now I would never go back, its just better for me. People may hate and think it only got created to increase bike sales but the advantages are massive
  • 21 15
 26 is not dead... yet. A lot of bike companies have moved away from 26, this is because they respond to demand. Having 3 wheel sizes (26,27.5,29) is a big pain for demand planning and inventory management. It makes sense to phase one size out. I think in the next 5 years 26 will be dead.
  • 83 16
 27.5" owners stop at nothing to defend their 5000$ purchase
  • 43 5
 I bought Scott Voltage Fr 2015 with 27.5 wheels and i fuc**** hate it. Switched to 26 after few rides. Bigger wheel may be faster at certain tracks but 26 still gives me more fun every ride!
  • 7 12
flag mgolder (Oct 19, 2015 at 13:04) (Below Threshold)
 Including using things known as facts, @anchoricex Do you honest believe that by the time 27.5 has been around as long as 26 that the majority will still be 26?
  • 21 4
 I thought it was illegal to still ride on 26" wheels. That's great now I can get my older bikes out again and ride.
  • 3 5
 Considering the bike companies will simply stop making 26.. it will die, because not everyone is goanna switch are they Razz
  • 55 2
 Both of my bikes are 26" and I love them. I would never buy a new bike just to have a different wheel size. But I have absolutely no doubt my next bike will be 27.5. And I'm fine with that. I neither love 26 nor hate 27.5. I ride what I have and I don't care about what anyone else rides.
  • 11 22
flag WhatToBuy (Oct 19, 2015 at 13:15) (Below Threshold)
 Enjoy your 26" resale value.
  • 25 1
 3/4 of the riders still on 26" yet I've been to shops where they don't even carry 26" tires anymore!
  • 27 1
 @whattobuy, what is this 'resale value' you speak of? My bike is mine, when I'm done with it, it's going in a skip, ride it till you break it!
  • 9 1
 Let's see the statistics next year about the wheel size. This year I just bought DT SWISS Tricon 1955 26" and custom 26" from superstar components, just in case that 26" dies. Yummy. 26" 4EVA
  • 7 2
 Pretty much how I feel too fix-the-spade. I feel sorry for people who worry about resale values of things they buy! All I worry about is how much I want it!
  • 45 1
 Are people still talking about this?
  • 2 1
 ^^^^best answer yet^^^^^
  • 9 1
 Nah. I'll just ride my bike and you ride yours. I'll have more fun cause I'm not compelled to defend my bike choice or denigrate yours.
  • 7 1
 why choose just one? They're all good
  • 3 1
 Exactly.
  • 2 2
 Supply and production planning for 3skus (3 wheel sizes) is cake, you don't even need a demand planner. If you think this is why they're phasing out 26", your sniffing too much glue and slept through your economics class.
  • 3 0
 26 vz 27,5 size statistic really surprised me. Thought it would be more equal.
  • 8 2
 26 " will not die, it will be killed by the industry. The people and freeriders love 26" wheels.
  • 2 1
 I do not mind a meaningful discussion or debate, however, please do not insult others by saying they are "sniffing too much glue" this is not the type of community for slander. Thank you
  • 1 0
 My 26 Sunday will never die...
  • 1 0
 I just started DH riding....bought a used Norco Aurum 26" bike. My trail bike is a 29" trek remedy which I love and have a lot more time riding vs the DH bike.
So...the DH bike has me thinking about riding a smaller wheel overall cuz I love the better cornering ability and cornering leverage I have on it vs my 29er...I don't think I'd really miss the climbing or rolling ability of the 29er.
It's nice that the big wheel rolls over shit, but technique can fix that with a smaller wheel.
Put it this way...I can't imagine riding DH with a bigger wheel...I just feel like I need a more bmx'ish bike for DH.
When I ride DH, I feel like I control the bike. When I ride trail, I feel like the bike (29er) controls me more.
I'd feel too high and unstable on a bigger wheel for DH. I would never go up in wheel size.

BUT....my body is destroyed after riding DH cuz of the work I have to put in to control my body on a smaller/lower bike. On my trail bike, I'm never as tired.

That's just my take as a beginner with only 2 years riding.
  • 62 4
 who actually counts all the tires and checks rim size? where do these stats come from? what is the margin of error? where am i?
  • 50 3
 the government!
  • 34 0
 The NSA, mate, the NSA. They are monitoring your purchases on websites and voilà!!! Smile
  • 25 1
 Illuminati
  • 21 3
 I hear Steven Harper rides 27.5.
  • 43 7
 "I hear Steven Harper rides 27.5."

Let's hope his next ride is a moving van out of 24 Sussex.
  • 24 6
 27.5 WHEELS ARE CERTIFIED ORGANIC AND GLUTEN FREE PLS BUY THEY ARE SAFE AND FREE OF HARMFUL GMO'S PLS WE ARE TRYING SO HARD TO GET EVERYONE ONTO 27.5 GIVE US YOUR MONEY GIVE IT ALL TO US. I AM A 650B AMA
  • 3 17
flag X-Liam-X (Oct 19, 2015 at 13:20) (Below Threshold)
 650b is better
  • 16 0
 26:!!!
  • 12 3
 @MTBCAM I was laughing until I remembered how many illegal/illegitimate wars the US govt has been waging around the world
  • 6 5
 #makeeverythingapoliticalargument #eveninstagram
  • 6 5
 Treating politics like it's too taboo to talk about is highschool as shit.
  • 10 2
 failing to recognize the correct time and place to voice your opinion, however, is the mark of a true adult.
  • 8 6
 I'm gonna call BS on that. Having to walk on egg shells and wait for the appropriate place to say something unpopular is just perpetuating a social status quo that humans invented. Nah, dude a few comments above is more then welcome to make his remarks. Internet needs to be open and free, let's not discourage that, not even on a tiny little pinkbike comment corner of the web.
  • 6 5
 Oh, and promoting the need to be perceived as an adult sucks.
  • 6 1
 @dkidd no way man. If harper adopted any new wheel size it would be 29er all the way. Except he never adopts something new, but he also would never ride 26 (pot smoking freeriders!). My guess us he rides a penny farthing. Or just gets driven around on our dime. *checks twitter for election results* Ha! Suck it harper!
  • 1 0
 Let's be clear-I was responding to the funny wheel size debate. Nowhere on the Internet should be closed from commentary and debate. If we don't talk about stuff, we never learn from each other.
  • 1 1
 @theminsta Your point is??? Everyone knows this....
  • 4 8
flag theminsta (Oct 20, 2015 at 6:35) (Below Threshold)
 @MTBCAM Do you also know your govt funded, trained, armed many parts of ISIS? It's all documented lol

6 million jews were killed by the Nazis over 13 years. Crazy right? Now we have 1.5 million "terrorists" killed by the US over 14 years. It's bad when some other country does it, but justified when "we" do it?

So you're telling me you're fine with millions continually being murdered in the name of "freedom" or too lazy to give a damn? America seems to be carrying a holocaust-like slaughtering out there. I guess you'll only care when it's history?
  • 4 1
 @theminsta Where the f*ck is this coming from? Did you look at the picture I linked? I was making fun of my own government. I realize we funded ISIS. It is all documented. Hell even the mainstream media here in the U.S. has reported it lol. Like I said, everyone knows about it already so whats your point? Its sad, but Im one person. What the f*ck do you expect me to do? When did I say I was "fine with it"? When did I say I "didnt care"? Or I "didnt give a damn?" Why dont you go over there and fight them if you have so much conviction? Again, where the f*ck is this attack actually coming from? You seem troubled my friend, very troubled...
  • 2 1
 @theminsta I think you took it as I was talking shit on Canada's government? But I was actually talking shit on my own....so.....yeah.....feel dumb yet?
  • 3 1
 Sorry, I use "you" to get people engaged, not enraged. And I am talking about govts in general and how they are all gunghoe about spreading "freedom"
  • 4 1
 @theminsta Right, but why do you attack? I agree with everything you've said man. Not everyone here in the U.S. is "Murican" if you know what I mean. A great number of us, most in fact, think our government is ridiculous and we're disgusted with it. I love my country, but not my government.
  • 3 1
 #thecivilwardidnotwork
  • 53 2
 I'm honestly very surprised more people aren't running a Zee derailleur. It's a great piece of kit at a very affordable price
  • 14 0
 ZEE on both my rigs....couldnt be happier with them
  • 8 0
 I had the zees on my bike, but the derailer exploded into pieces. Shimano warrantied them. The zee brakes held up for over 2.5 years on the other hand with very little problems.
  • 2 4
 My Norco Aurum destroyed 2 of them after 1 ride each.
  • 8 1
 Not properly adjusted? Never heard of Zee's doing that
  • 5 1
 @hetfield1 Funny you should mention that. I exploded a Saint on an Aurum at Whistler a few weeks ago. I didn't even smash into anything oddly enough.
  • 10 0
 The way Norcos are designed makes the derailleur hanger bend causing these problems.
  • 6 0
 I have a zee derilleur on my XC bike....love the short cage!
  • 3 0
 Yep. Why would you use anything else!?
  • 47 1
 Good effort to those guys using Avid V Brakes!
  • 45 7
 26 aint bread, 650b cant melt steel beams
  • 58 8
 26" until the day I'm shot and killed by the police.
  • 77 7
 #26"livesmatter
  • 9 1
 don't visit the us then @myfriendgoose
  • 5 0
 theres two points where it says "ironhorse sunday 0.5%" does that mean that there is really 1%?
  • 25 0
 CCM Nitro? That's so gnar.
  • 4 0
 Obviously someone knew the poll was going to happen that weekend and wanted to rip it old skool!
  • 5 0
 I've seen those fall to pieces after one bobsled lap, godspeed to anyone who took it up whistler.
  • 3 0
 I had a super cycle menace fully when I was younger. It would beat any bike off the dock.
  • 29 8
 I will never understand why most people ride with nothing more than knee pads and a helmet.
  • 27 6
 Probably similar to the reason why you wear so much protection , because you feel you need it.
  • 15 15
 Because body armor is just extra weight you don't need
  • 7 1
 Down voted for the truth Smile

What other reason is there for wearing a lot of/not wearing a lot of armor other than feeling a need to or not ?
  • 10 0
 I can't be having messed up looking knees, they're too pretty.
  • 5 0
 It's not worth the extra discomfort and decreased mobility for a lot of riders. I occasionally throw elbows on if a) I have a previous injury to cover or b) I feel like I need them (washout corners/tight trees/etc). I do think a lightweight roost guard is worth it for chest and spine impact protection, and I will probably ride in one for DH racing and training next season. But that's just my personal opinion; it's worked well for me so far
  • 9 1
 I simply feel the best with knee protection and helmet... I don't like the feeling of most bodyarmor, so it would make me uncomfortable while riding
  • 8 0
 If they could make wrist braces comfortable and good looking I bet you that would be the next standard piece of equipment
  • 15 5
 I ride with back plate as I fell from 1,5m onto my back right into the rocks once, ending up stretched with my lumbar spine on a large rock. I had body armor then, by a stupid chance, I wanted to ride without one initially. It is a very personal experience though I don't need to judge anyone for not riding in one. I hate people who prejudge others for what they ride in, all that patronizing talking about morality of what-if. Most of even bulkiest protection is truly against abrasion not heavy injuries. I never got along with full upper body armor, I bought three different elbow guards and hated them all, it just makes me feel cringed, limited in movement irritated with some stuff sliding around my elbows and shoulders. Horrible. This year I saw Dainese Rhyolite jacket and it is the first thing out there that looks promising to me because it is such a slim fit with so little crap involved.
  • 8 2
 I would rather wear all the protection because even if you think your a pro badass, you will eventually fall and mess something up on your body...
  • 9 1
 Choice , the end. ( apart from a lid of course ! )

Though I do get phantom knee pains every time I see some one ride with no knee pads !
  • 5 2
 My reason is lame. I used to charge too darn hard in full pads, chest protector, bicep pad, spine and elbow, knee/shin kit. My upper body armor zipper broke and couldn't pin it back, so I raced a race and felt naked. Then I realized I ain't racing pro any more and could probably stand to clean up my riding style.

I backed off the hack a tree, blow a turn, tumble and try to hit it harder next time thought process and went to the "Hit it hard, clean and in control and see if I can do that just a bit cleaner and faster next run" format. Haven't looked back in 10 years.

Still wear knee/shin combo because my shin bone has very little skin from the beartrap pedal days of my childhood jumping refrigerators and ditches.
  • 2 0
 I have gone from wearing full armor 16 years ago, seperated my shoulder a few times , realised the pads don't help at all for that, rode up until last year with only legs and lid and crashed on the same elbow about 4 times in 3 months and decided to get elbow pads.
  • 2 0
 Seperated my shoulder in full kit too. There has yet to be an idiot proofing of the AC Joint.
  • 1 0
 Problem is now I know I can land on my elbow and it won't get hurt, by product of that is the impacts are going right up my arm and fucking with my shoulder, might be going back to no elbow pads again and going back to being more carefull how I crash !
  • 2 0
 I like being able to throw my elbows (padded) to the dirt when I crash, that way I reduce risk of broken bones and just come away with my arms and body slashed up. Just my preference though, most of my homies ride only knee pads like this survey showed.
  • 1 0
 ^ Yeah that's my way of thinking too, you can pretty much half the distance to the ground in say a front wheel slide out crash by putting your elbow out.
  • 2 3
 To me knee only pads sit better than any knee/shin combo I tried aside of those that you put on separately. I still managed to get some crap stick out of my knee after latest crash and I have to get it operated as my knee cap slides on top of it now. It will probably leave a mark as big as shaving cut but it still happened despite having legitimate knee protector that is 661 tomcat - Rest In Piece, you best knee guard ever made.
  • 1 0
 If you have big calfs, the combos are hard to keep in place
  • 5 0
 After two loooong summers of injuries, I am thankful that I wear the gear I do. Leatt neck brace "probably" saved my life in June '14 after lawn darting off the A-Line rock drop (don't ask... lol). Gnarly concussion, broken collar bone and right hand, elbow broke in multiple pieces, 5 cracked ribs... the list goes on. This was while wearing a TLD Carbon D3, neck brace, chest protector, knee pads, and gloves. Wished I had been wearing my elbow pads, but not sure they would have helped much considering the impact. Two surgeries and countless hours of PT, finally at 90%. Hate to think how bad it would have been not wearing all the gear!
  • 2 0
 @cgjeff I'd think that rock drop and the left line on the following table top would cause more brutal injuries than anything else in the park.
  • 2 0
 @cgjeff i shattered my elbow despite wearing elbow pads two years ago. At a certain point all the protective gear in the world won't keep your bones from breaking.
  • 6 0
 Park Rat fashion.


I'm really the first one to throw that in as an option?

C'mon it's a factor for sure.
  • 2 0
 @galenS hell yeah,

I ride whistler bike park all summer, its definitely a fashion statement. cut off t-shirts and tank tops, you dont want to look like a football player when you're doing the canadian open step down do you?? Wink
  • 4 2
 I take park rat fashion over race pyjama and Enduro wasp attractor anytime. Same level of protection, less of "I want to look sponsored" jerk. That sht with Peaty signature outfit was the most retarded thing ever.
  • 2 0
 I have the Gwin kit because i have a knee brace that hangs on shorts and the black Sprint were sold out in my size. That...and I have a weakness for Ron Leichen 90's moto neon.
  • 2 0
 I should mention...there is an unwritten rule at Whistler in September that you have to look grubby as crap and mismatched all day every day. It's like they all try to be the exact opposite of clean or "together" in the slightest.

I was told by the shop guy about the "Kings of Whistler" in skinny cut offs, ratty old tank tops and 24" wheels and sure enough ran into one of them. He used the word legendary when he described them.

When I saw the guy...just for the level of sheer anti-scene he had going...I granted him legend status immediately. Big Grin
  • 2 1
 So... do you really dress up exactly as Gwin? I remember standing in the queue and seeing one dude in full Peaty outfit Royal+ Signature TLD helmet and another dude in full Sam Hill kit, TLD+TLD signature helmet. That was R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S and I was not the only one laughing at them... 5 year old boys do that with spidermans suit, but already in 2nd-3rd grade of preschool, the sensible kids are careful with that as their shtty friends will give them sht, expecting them to live up to the outfit connotations.
  • 1 0
 No. I have a red/white/blue/powder blue TLD D3 from several years back. Owned it for 3 seasons now before Gwin was even on TLD. I happened to need pants to use with my new knee brace because it caught on my shorts.

But when you see me at first, neon Gwin jersey/pant and red/white/blue helmet at a glance and you're standing in line at Whistler in a sea of hoodies and flannels...you see guys eyes pop and fingers point.

Like I said we were there 3 days, the last day of Interbike, Monday and Tuesday. Not one guy in matching gear except one Dunbar Cycles rider. On Tuesday, pros in matching kit started popping up (back from Interbike). Steve Smith in full Devinci kit, etc.So it clicked in my head why I was getting the confused looks.

Semenuk was there hiding in a a grandpa burgundy logoless sweatshirt...but when he hit the tables, you knew it.
  • 1 0
 hahah @bizutch

I partied with the boys the night they're movie was playing at Garfs in Brio, they gave me a T-shirt, they are super rad dudes, and they rip! Legends in my book, plus I've even seen semenuk doing laps with them. #FASTASf*ck
  • 2 0
 @cgjeff do you still ride? How bad did you shatter your elbow? Did you shatter your elbow by landing on it or by putting your hands down hard? I ask because I have shattered my elbow. Give me some hope.
  • 2 0
 @Monkeydust77 I do still ride. I fractured the Olecranon in several spots as well as "split" the Ulna about an inch. I think it was due to landing on it, but I am not totally sure. I landed head first and instantly lost consciousness and don't even remember the rest of the body impact. Next thing I know, 30 minutes had passed and the Whistler park staff is there asking me questions and assessing my injuries. First surgery was June 26th to plate and screw everything back together in the elbow, as well as the collarbone. I hit a wall about 6-weeks into physical therapy and could not gain more mobility, I was stuck at 30 degrees extension and 100-105 degrees of flexion. I could not feed myself, wash my face, or pick my nose with my left hand... lol. I will be honest, I got VERY depressed in October and November last year. Had a 2nd surgery in December '14 to remove the hardware in both the elbow and shoulder. At that time, the surgeon "released" the ulnar nerve and did some tendon work around the Tricep. With the 2nd surgery and serious dedication of physical therapy, I have regained nearly 100% flexion and within 15 degrees of extension. Tougher healing road than I ever imagined!!

But... I rode Whistler for 3-days this June and 3 more days in September with no issues. Even rode A-Line a few laps (skipped the rock drop.. lol) Still building confidence and traded the DH for a Norco Range.

Stay positive and listen to the doctors. Physical Therapy is the key to regaining strength and mobility... you go this!!
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 Physical therapists are wizards.
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 @ bizutch
Ha, those guys are there almost every day. I rode 23 days at Whistler and I think they were there 90% of them. Wish I felt comfortable in short shorts and a tank top and canvas shoes. I need a little more protection when doing lower whistler canadian open. Oh well I look like a football player, but at least I can send most things in the park
  • 24 2
 26 aint dead but the resale value certainly is. Dammit.
  • 9 0
 Straight up man. Couldn't drop my Wilson if I wanted to. Keeping it 4evur
  • 2 1
 Resale value on 26 is nuts. In Sweden you can get a 26 2013 Mojo HD with outstanding kit for no more than 2,5k$, 36 RC2 Kashima, XTR, Reverb, maybe even carbon rims. This money barely buys you a stock alu 2014 Remedy 650B on Oem 34 and SLX/base Bontrager stuff. You can buy a 26 Demo or Session in mint condition for less than 2k! Only 29ers go down in price slowly. In 2 years I may want a new bike. I simply hope they will make a new wheelsize by then so 650B plummets just like 26 did
  • 27 5
 26 for life!
  • 18 1
 The industry is led by greed. If you would continue to make 26" and give us the option, then you would eventually see that there is a market for everyone. Cutting off what has been the industry standard for decades for the sake of forced sales is a horrible move.
  • 22 2
 see bike industry 26 ain't dead, now give us the parts we need.
  • 8 8
 But it is really isn't it. That figure has decades worth of 26" bike sales behind it, whereas 27.5" has had far less time, and is growing fast. By the time 27.5 is as old as 26 is now, the 26 will not be the majority at all. It's just how it is. I don't understand why people can't accept it. You all may love your 26" bikes, and that's fine, but as far as nearly all bike builders are concerned, it is dead.
  • 4 0
 i get that i really do, it's just that there are still tons of 26 inch bikes out there and need parts, mainly tyres, tubes, rims, and forks, my issue is that 26 is getting phased out far too quickly, look at cameras, you could still buy a film camera a film from a high street store years after digital was the main stay as there was still a market for film but over the course of 20 years from the first consumer digital cameras to now everything slowly changed to film being a niche, the bike industry needs to slow down, as trying to phase out a whole wheel size which has been around for decades in a few years is a bit ridiculous, as the way everything is going it'll come down to having to buy a new bike over an inner tube or a tyre, but at least for now 26 is still staying put as a size for slopestyle bikes and freeride for now and it's staying with town/city bikes. but it's very fair to say as a size for XC, trail, AM, enduro, and DH, 26 close to being a niche unless it gets used for some kids bikes.
  • 6 2
 By the time 27.5 is as old as 26 is now, there will be yet another wheel size. Or maybe some proprietary wheel/tire combo. Or maybe we will all be riding 20" wheels for strength and spoke angle, but with a 4" wide rim and 28" outer diameter balloon tires inflated with helium. 27.5 will never enjoy the longevity or great majority of 26.
  • 4 0
 @ashyjay werd. The part that makes people feel like an intentional cash grab is the early phasing out of 26" parts. Fine, stop building frames-no biggie. But until I am ready to replace (read-can afford) my current steed, I'm still shredding 26.
  • 2 3
 I want 24.75 inch wheels for my dj, with 1.25 inch steerer tube, maybe 137mm dropouts, oh and drive side is on the left.
  • 1 0
 One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone complains about something, but isn't willing to be the solution. I'm not disagreeing with your assessment that twenty-sixers are still alive, but why not start up your own wheel company that specializes in 26" wheels, tires, and tubes. If there are so many people in the market for them, it'll take off and you can laugh at the stupid bike manufacturers as you steal their sales. Maybe I'll even buy from you as I still ride a twenty-sixer. Smile
  • 16 2
 All the fancy smanchy BULLSHIT pouring our of the marketing departments, with many confused MTB riders on the forums here. But the real numbers... They dont lie. We should know real improvements when we see them by now, when are we going to cut through this mountain of garbage, agree we all love riding bikes. And get companys to focus on dropping the prices so all our broke ass friends wont have an excuse to come out and ride!
  • 5 1
 What are the real numbers that prove anything concrete here?
  • 14 1
 That 98% of people are too poor for XX1
  • 9 0
 Little known fact about standing in line at Whistler the Sunday of Interbike and that following Monday. There are NO known pros in the park those two days and wearing the neon Gwin kit (which my childhood motocross self loves) with your (not the Gwin replica) red/white/blue TLD D3 helmet results in every person there thinking you are him until they see your Chuck Norris beard and beady little eyes.

The look on everyone's face of disappointment after hoping against hope you're him...it's priceless, yet unfulfilling.

That...and on Tuesday when the pros do start showing back up and you unknowingly wind up in a fresh Ruckus kit as the caboose in a train of riders with Steve Smith and his buddies on A Line...every single boost you thought of yours that was awesome...well, you basically hear bystanders openly GASP...then GROIN as your huck is clearly disappointing to them.
  • 10 4
 So 75% of people riding with no pack just assuming someone else will donate them a tube when the time comes? Not to mention the time out of your riding to stop and help them get sorted. Gotta say (as much as I can see the neg props coming) I don't have much sympathy for the packless riders I see marching their bikes down to the service shop when the inevitable flat catches up with them!

I suppose maybe they've got one taped to the downtube? Otherwise, I sure hope they're carrying a MINIMUM of $5 (at the very least) to help cover the costs....otherwise it's kinda reminds me of the guy who shows up to a party with no booze.
  • 6 1
 Rode over 10 days in the park this summer, got 2 flats. For the number of laps, its not that big of a deal to take the chair down twice. In my case, I only flatted because I was getting tired and riding like a hack; good time to call it a day anyways.
  • 15 1
 I always give my tubes for free when helping out other riding dudes. It's like karma, so when ever I had a flat, other dudes where giving me tubes for free. #SimpleWorldisSimple
  • 5 0
 Wheel wars won'the go away. It kinda made sense for friction between 29er and 26" because they were really already divided factions. XC and DH. Now the gravity guys are infighting over 27.5. At the end of the day a greater variety of bikes for diverse types of riding is a good thing. I don't get the whole standardizing of bikes and stocking of parts argument. So there can be multiple hub widths and head tube sizes and bottom bracket types and fat bikes and plus bikes and single speeds but God forbid we have small,medium, and large wheel sizes .
  • 9 1
 percentage of people who don't care what others ride?
  • 7 1
 Then why did you click on this page?
  • 1 1
 haha. i wasn't implying i don't care. actually, am curious what the most sought after mtb destination has riding around it. just a response to the inevitable whl size and brand fanboi sillines that occurs.. nbd
  • 15 7
 26 ain't dead!
  • 4 1
 It is SO pathetic how people feel that the full matching races kits are pro-specific and that they're trying to appear sponsored or whatever. Are people not allowed to wear what is appealing to them without having to defend themselves? Seems to be a deeper lying issue here. "Oh look at his outfit I don't like what he's wearing therefore I don't like him. That is so ugly and stupid looking." Ok well you are thinking like a woman. What're you doing looking for the coolest looking guy to ask him out or ride some laps? People need to be judged by the kind of person that they are not what they wear or how they look bc all you people who judge others based on their appearance alone obviously have something wrong with you. I used to wear matching kits bc I liked them and that's it. So all you snob ass trolls out there, start worrying about your own image more than others and you MIGHT be considered a decent person again????
Signed: someone who judges people properly
  • 3 0
 Up until you used "you are thinking like a woman" as an insult, I was agreeing with you. That kind of statement doesn't sound like it's coming from someone who "judges people properly". Just saying.
  • 2 0
 Thinking like a woman? I don't get it. And honestly, people don't need to be judged at all. Let other people do their thing, judge only those people who truly have a cause and effect on your day to day. Otherwise, just spread love. Even if the person is a tool.
  • 1 0
 Fair enough on both comments. Should have chose my words more wisely on that one
  • 1 0
 No worries, much love.
  • 6 1
 25% women? well damn. i have a better chance of finding the love of my life there, time to move.
  • 3 1
 Interesting that despite all the talk of direct sell brands such as Canyon and YT Industries being the next great thing, they don't even feature on this list. You'd have thought that if you'd see them anywhere, you'd see them in Whistler.
  • 10 0
 Well they are still effectively unavailable in Canada, given stock levels, etc. Also keep in mind a sample of 200 bikes when whistler sees 115k unique vsitors to the bike park is hardly a reasonable sample size.
  • 2 0
 give it time. There's already one YT in Nelson. I'd love to see a canyon up close!
  • 2 0
 Interesting facts, I wonder how much of a role local bike shops played into these numbers, meaning accessibility for products and bikes, (major dealers) as for 27.5 it is still fairly new, it will slowly take over as older bikes get replaced with newer models. Great stats for LBS as to what to stock for upcoming year, they already know that though.
Cheers all, hope everyone had a great summer riding. I'm looking forward to next season already, is winter over yet? Geez.
  • 4 0
 16% Öhlins and half a percent Iron Horse Sunday twice. Missing Derailleur cuz it was busted off, or on purpose?
  • 5 0
 Avid's at the top of brakes is a moment of silence, also 26 isn't dead!
  • 3 0
 My codes work great
  • 2 0
 You mean a moment of horrible screeching? Hah
  • 1 0
 Ive had Avid Elixirs squeal a lot, but never the Codes
  • 5 0
 Our sport needs more girls.
  • 4 0
 I was at whistler a few weeks back and was actually pleasantly surprised by the amount of female riders. Far more than you see in the UK that's for sure.
  • 2 0
 The Dudes ride rampage in armour
I ride whistler in armour
If I'm hitting something local (wood lot) it's always a full face and knee/shin pads
It's all about the risk factor.
  • 5 0
 Wow. Not a single YT Tues!
  • 5 0
 you crazy unclipped 26rs with avid´s MF´s!!!
  • 1 0
 This wheel debate is exhausting. TO EACH HIS OWN. Not everyone thinks a like, not everyone enjoys the same type of riding, people like to experiment and sometimes that leads to a change in mindset. Deal with it and get used to the fact that everyone does not agree with you and your thinking or choice in tire size. There's too much damn hate going on for the dumbest reasons. Then again I realize where I'm at...the internet.
26" isn't dead it's just no longer the only option for DH
  • 7 4
 CCM Nitro? The only better way to shear off your headtube is to ride a Morpheus
  • 2 0
 Baboom!
  • 3 0
 In whistler it seems my bike is quite rare , over here you see a Pulse way too often.
  • 4 0
 Iron horse Sunday twice =1%
  • 2 0
 its an error, now corrected, it is just .5%
  • 3 0
 Sorry to be an arse about the detail. For me the Sunday is still a big deal! Props for changing it so quick.
  • 4 0
 No Suntour? Next year maybe..after rampage
  • 4 0
 What fork was on the CCM Nitro?
  • 2 0
 I'm more concerned about the nutter who was risking their life by riding one in the park than what fork was on it
  • 1 0
 didn't notice some basement brand model on the list...so curious if someone had thrown a "legit" fork on a CCM or if they just failed to report the fork as it wasn't worth it.
  • 4 0
 the CCM came through the lift line when we were noting frames, it wasnt seen again and therefore didnt make the fork category
  • 1 1
 I'd love to see a percent change from the opening day. I'd love to see which bikes are hot, based on change. NOT that I'm selling my Nomad or anything... I'll let it go when the bike patrol takes it from my cold dead hands.
  • 3 0
 CCM nitro is on the rise...
  • 3 1
 What, why are people in Whistler riding Sun Ringle rims? I haven't seen those for ages!
  • 3 0
 how to be most hated person on pinkbike: 650b,27,29 for life!
  • 2 0
 Interesting comparing the stats from the beginning of the year. Less clipless pedals and 10% more 27.5" wheels
  • 2 0
 an article showing the changing trend over time would be interesting
  • 2 0
 What you are riding now is; uphill to go down, like the rest of us unlucky non-liftserved bastards!
  • 3 0
 3.5% for an all mnt. .bike, the Reign
  • 1 0
 my '09 Reign X1 has been down prob 95% of the trails at Whistler, sure it's not as fast as a big rig (especially with an old guy on board) but it will happily do it. I love the thing.
  • 2 0
 Surprised to see the Trek Remedy but no Slash on that list. I have a Slash 8 and would take it over a Remedy anyday
  • 1 0
 I'm truly glad 26" bikes are still dominating. At least at Whistler.
Here in SoKal, the bike I overwhelmingly see the most of at Summit is, the 951
  • 2 0
 CCM Nitro? Whoever is ridding a department store bike in Whistler is the man!
  • 3 1
 so nobody up there rides a DVO Emerald?
  • 3 1
 They are all on the walls of the shops in the village...
  • 1 0
 or DVO Jade shocks?
  • 1 0
 they are used by the local tycoons.
  • 3 0
 26 over here
  • 1 1
 This so much more useful then the normal pinkbike review which is clearly paired for by the company being reviewed. This is the list to look at when considering buying parts!
  • 3 0
 "penetrate"
  • 2 0
 Respect to the hardcore 2% on hardtails. Keeping it real Big Grin
  • 2 0
 props to the guy rocking the CCM nitro in whistler
  • 11 9
 26 aint dead
  • 7 6
 So many people riding the wrong bike. Where is @Protour when you need him.
  • 2 0
 you mean the right bike for whistler right? its probably the only bike can handle whistler for a strait month with free issues. now neg me tup
  • 15 2
 He is framing picture of Rogatkin falling off the cliff with Demo above him.
  • 2 1
 Boom! Waki wins PB for the day.
  • 2 1
 I think im to tired to do anything
  • 2 0
 Orange 5 wtg Smile
  • 2 1
 I ride 26 because college... and I cant afford those beautiful 27.5 tires.
  • 1 0
 Ironhorse Sunday wrote twice.....
  • 1 0
 what is the point of moveing up size seems pointless
  • 1 0
 Love these lists! Any reason you listed Ironhorse Sunday twice though?
  • 2 0
 No Santa Cruz VP-Free
  • 1 0
 My buddy couldn't make it up last weekend. It's the frame that won't die...
  • 1 0
 Yeah I been riding a '07 for 3 years now. I may actually buy something a lil more modern next season. but damn my vp is a flcky fun lil tank.
  • 1 0
 I am actually considering going with the new intense uzzi as the uzzi and vp seem so simalar. however i dont think as a 27.b it would handle as well. kinda like how bike bible said the 951 in a 27.b is nothing like the previous 26" 951
  • 1 0
 VP Free owner here. I dont ride it much, but I just cant stand to get rid of it.
  • 1 0
 im in the same boat. I will get a new bike next season but I cannot part with my vp
  • 1 1
 Pretty even split between Shimano and Avid brakes but SRAM has a major portion of the derailleurs.
  • 1 0
 I was the half man riding a Norco Aurum ,sorry.
Half man ,half amazing \m/
  • 2 0
 No 29ers?
  • 2 0
 No YT's???
  • 1 0
 Can't get them in Canada yet, same with Canyon I believe.
  • 1 0
 What?!?!? No Next Power climbers????????
  • 1 0
 What? No Mongoose Boot'rs???
  • 2 0
 No Polygon seen Around?
  • 4 2
 No they were too busy paying off the red Bull judges.
  • 1 0
 Hardtails are where its at!!
  • 1 0
 there seems to have been a shift towards 27.5 and spd pedals!!!!
  • 1 0
 So little Intenses............. that will change...
  • 1 1
 I was there that day on a 29er and saw Rose doing the counts. Would love to have the 29er stats in the park!
  • 1 0
 Greg, Wheel size stats are for dedicated DH bikes only
  • 1 0
 How are there no e.13 wheels on the mountain?
  • 1 0
 I guess can field isnt popular yet.
  • 1 0
 canyon? where are they on lists!!!
  • 1 0
 The hack is Recon doing in there?
  • 1 0
 khs thank you very much
  • 2 1
 26 isn't dead!
  • 2 5
 26 went to whistler, the future went to 27.5
  • 4 1
 The riders went 26". Corporate suits trying to figure out how to maximize profits went 27.5".
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