What Are People Riding? - Whistler Opening Weekend

May 6, 2015
by Rose Oakhill  
Opening weekend of the Whistler Mountain Bike Park, for many its a chance to dust off their trusty steed for its umpteenth season, or for others it will be the very 1st time that their brand new whip will have seen the dirt of this world class bike park. For us at Pinkbike, however, this means that the lift line is a wonderfully interesting place, where we get to see how you choose to kit out your rigs and spend your hard earned cash.

Whistler Bike Park opening day 2015

We opted for our usual dissection of 100 bikes for each category passing through the new RFID gates at the bottom of the Fitz chair and over the course of 2 days we checked out your Frames, Wheels, Brakes, Derailleurs, Forks, Shocks and Tires, then threw in some extra categories Male to Female ratio, Gloves vs No Gloves, Clipped In vs Flat and for those on dedicated DH bikes we even checked out your Wheel Size.

Rental bikes were not included in our survey



Frames:
Specialized Demo 17%
Devinci Wilson 13%
Norco Aurum 9%
Santa Cruz V10 7%
Giant Glory 5%
Giant Reign 5%
Rocky Mountain Flatline 5%
Transition TR500 4%
Transition TR450 3%
Trek Session 2%
Knolly Podium 2%
Lapierre DH 2%
Zerode 2%
Cove Shocker 2%
Kona Stab 2%
Evil Undead 2%
Intense M9 2%
Norco A-line 2%
Kona Operator 2%
Intense 951 1%
Specialized Enduro 1%
Cove Playmate 1%
Trek Slash 1%
Foes Hydro 1%
Norco Range 1%
Banshee Darkside 1%
Scott Voltage 1%
NS Fuzz 1%
Specialized Status 1%
Banshee Rune 1%
Morpheus DH 1%




Forks:
RockShox Boxxer (all models)35%
Fox 40 (all models)23%
Marzocchi 55/669%
Marzocchi 8887%
Marzocchi 380 (all models)6%
Fox 364%
RockShox Pike4%
RockShox Lyrik4%
RockShox Domain2%
BOS Idylle2%
Manitou Dorado1%
Suntour Rux1%
Fox 341%
Marzocchi Junior T1%




Rear Shocks:
Fox DHX (all models)28%
Rockshox Monarch Plus11%
RockShox Vivid Coil11%
Cane Creek DB Coil9%
Fox Van7%
Fox Float X7%
Fox Float RP236%
RockShox Kage5%
RockShox Vivid Air4%
Marzocchi Rocco4%
Cane Creek DB Air2%
BOS Stoy2%
Marzocchi Moto C2R1%
RockShox Monarch1%
Ohlins1%
Cane Creek Inline1%




Brakes:
Shimano Saint28%
Shimano Zee14%
Avid Code (all models)14%
Avid Elixir (all models)13%
SRAM Guide5%
Avid Juicy5%
Avid XO5%
Shimano XT3%
Hope Tech 33%
Hayes 92%
Formula RX2%
Shimano XTR2%
Shimano SLX2%
Shimano Deore1%
Formula Oro1%

DERAILLEURS
SRAM Typer 2 rear derailleur w Cage Lock

Derailleurs
SRAM XO21%
SRAM X917%
Shimano Saint17%
Shimano Zee13%
SRAM XO1 DH8%
SRAM X57%
Shimano XT6%
Shimano XTR4%
SRAM X73%
Shimano Deore2%
SRAM XX12%




Rims
SunRingle21%
Mavic18%
DT Swiss13%
Easton9%
Specialized Roval8%
Alex Rims6%
Stan's4%
Spank3%
Shimano2%
Syncros2%
Transition Revolution2%
Novatec2%
Bontrager2%
WTB1%
Azonic1%
Spinergy1%
Jalco1%
Giant1%
Crank Brothers1%
E-thirteen1%
Nukeproof1%

Tires:
Maxxis Minion DHF33%
Schwalbe Magic Mary25%
Maxxis High Roller 216%
Specialized Butcher7%
Maxxis High Roller6%
Maxxis Minion DHR3%
Continental Kaiser3%
Schwalbe Hans Dampf2%
Bontrager G42%
Maxxis Ardent2%
Kenda Nevagal1%


Gloves On vs Gloves Off:
Gloves68%
No Gloves32%


26inch v 27.5inch DH Bikes :
26inch90%
27.5inch10%

Check out our stats from the Whistler Bike Park from 2012.

What did you think of our findings on opening weekend here at the Whistler Bike Park? Let us know what you ride below.



303 Comments

  • + 699
 26 AINT DEAD
  • + 129
 it never will die. we mountain bikers will keep it alive, no matter what the dumb as fuck bike industry tries to do. I'm so bummed, all my favoritre frames are going 650b. so i need to keep looking. or buy used.
  • + 101
 yeah, double post bitches, but i think this just shows WE don't give a flying f*ck about how much "faster" 650b is over 26, we want fun, and 26" is fun. figure it out bike manufacturers
  • + 200
 Way to rage against the machine there bud.
  • + 40
 ..in parks. lets do that same survey at any race. unfortunately i suspect the stats would be reversed.
  • + 28
 yeah, probably hahaha^ but still, i don't race, probably never will, i'd rather have a 26" and it bums me out more and more bikes are going 27.5... and i'm thankful some companies are still staying faithful to the ole 26
  • + 61
 No 29ers at the park? Huh.
  • + 20
 wonder why...
  • - 52
flag scott-townes (May 6, 2015 at 16:25) (Below Threshold)
 TFreeman- all about having fun, eh? Somehow I find that hard to believe... haha
  • - 32
flag TravisClaypool (May 6, 2015 at 16:26) (Below Threshold)
 Go 29ers!!!
  • + 15
 @TFreeman yeahhhhh 26 for lifeeeeeee
  • + 72
 It's not too surprising that there's not many 650B DH bikes out there at the moment. It's a pretty new development in DH circles and I best most people surveyed didn't have a brand new bike. Give it a year or two and there won't be as many 26" DH bikes as when people upgrade and buy a new bike they'll inevitably get a 650B bike. For most people that decision won't be made because the new wheel size is any better but because that's all that's available.
  • + 31
 Why so much 27.5" hate? .. Have you even been on one or you just like to follow the band wagon? My 650B DH bike is more fun to ride than either of my 26" DH bikes were.
  • + 97
 in 2014 they told us 27.5" was better, in 2015 we said who gives a shit.
  • - 47
flag superttrinier (May 6, 2015 at 16:45) (Below Threshold)
 Seriously, I ride a 29er DH bike and it is the fastest thing I have ever been on. People laugh at the idea but when I am shredding past every Joey on Crank it Up they don't seem to be laughing anymore.
  • + 13
 @ustemuf you sure its just not the new geo and components? and yeah, i've ridden the new Carbon Pheonix and the new Session, they're fast, yeah, but i like 26 still, why i'll probably get a Darkside.
  • + 15
 no matter how hard the industry tries they will never be able to get rid of 26" bikes completely. For the simple reason of dirt jumpers and street/park bikes. I dont see dirt jump riders or park riders giving up the agility and stiffness of 26 bikes
  • - 21
flag scott-townes (May 6, 2015 at 16:57) (Below Threshold)
 Tfreeman- Let me do an impression of you... ahem... "I love riding bikes, I'm all about having fun and being happy when biking!"

(company introduces a new standard or tech)

"STUPID f*ckING COMPANIES! WE'RE ABOUT HAVING FUN NOT BEING THE FASTEST! WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT!"

That's pretty much what went through my head reading your posts, haha.
  • + 26
 kinda... its that they aim all of their components solely at racing, right? and i get that. I just wish more companies would also look at those of us who only ride park (insert song) because we're too slow to race but want to have fun. some of us don't want/need carbon errthang. and are you saying you support new standards? i like new tech, but new standards??
  • + 2
 @TFreeman

Do you really think that manufacturers thought of every possible future situation when they created standards?
  • + 59
 I never thought an inch and a half could start a world war....
  • + 51
 So I really don't get the beef people have with 27.5. There are a bunch of "standards" that are total BS, but this really isn't one of 'em. I love 26 inch bikes, my Rocky Slayer is 26, my DJ is 26. I've ridden the SC Bronson and Rocky Altitude, both on 27.5. I also just picked up the new Scott Voltage which is 27.5. Guess what I've noticed? When I really pay attention, the 27.5 bikes feel like a bike with slacker angles and a little more suspension, but I'm riding a bike, and that's what counts. I am 9000% sure that if you put someone who was a die hard 26 fan on a 27.5 bike, but didn't tell them it was a 27.5 bike, they'd have just as much fun.
  • + 13
 @Nobble do you think they don't have enough already? is 2 mm or 3 millimeters in either direction that big of a deal? do they have to be 15mm axle? do they have to be 20mm axles? its how incredibly small the increments are between every "standard" that comes out compared to the existing "standards"
  • + 7
 @nation kinda my point, there is no need to make EVERY bike 27.5 also, not everything that is available for 26" is available for 27.5... for instance, i'm still waiting on my DHF 650b in 60a with Exo Casings... i just wish more companies would go the ways of Trek and Banshee and make 180mm(ish, up to 203mm) 26" park bikes. that'd be cool.
  • + 2
 650B DHF 60a exo casing has been out for a while....you can buy it online right now....regardless...it's not just the geometry of the new bike, it's the wheel size and how it feels. it's easier to ride fast with less effort on 650b, thats what i like most about it.
  • + 1
 @ustemuf send me link. because i'd buy 50 pairs of those tires. makes sure they aren't 3c. and make sure they're 650b and EXO
  • + 15
 90% 26'
  • + 4
 Both sizes are awesome and equally fun. I've got a dh bike in 26 and a trail bike in 27.5 love them both the same.
  • + 3
 I don't know what everybody is riding that requires that they have a 26 inch wheel...I'm fine if you have a preference, and the great part about that is there are many companies willing to accommodate your desire to ride a 26 inch wheel. But seriously, what are you riding that make 26 so much better, other than DJ?
  • + 21
 Lol you Silly kids! Why would an industry want to try to get rid of a product?

They would be smarter if they were to grow the range of available products thus increasing the chance of a sale.

The issue you all have is that people are buying the shit your hating on, and these manufacturers don't have the capital to support production over such a wide product line. So what you need to do is get off Craigslist and go spend you're money on the products you want to see produced in a shop brand new. Online or in store doesn't matter but used stuff does not support new production.

You Should really have paid more attention in economics class my dudes!
  • + 11
 Agreed.. Gold jacket, green jacket, who gives a shit!
  • + 6
 There were a few! Stumpy evos and enduro 29s
  • + 55
 You 26-for-life bunch are like f*cking vegans or crossfitters. You never shut up about it. We get it, you hate 650B. Can we move on now?
  • + 5
 26FL Y'know what, I don't have a problem with different wheel sizes. They all have a purpose. But I do laugh at riders that think 26 is dead or 26 will become obsolete in time..... It just ain't gonna happen I read just ad much 26 hate when somebody drops a 26FL or 26 aint dead comment
  • + 1
 Also for the people who like to enjoy the trails not just zoom down them and throw a couple no handers in the mix
  • + 4
 I rode dirt jumps the other day on my 650b. If only I had a 26er I would have had fun!
  • + 3
 Sometimes I like to sit and imagine that the only 27.5 bikes sold are bought by the 264Lifers!!! to be used as voodoo dolls, forever being hatefully poked with 26" wheel spokes, thereby increasing the sales of 27.5 bikes and causing another 264life bloke to become a wielder of the voodoo! Self perpetuating hate! Then I go back to whatever it was that I was doing with a little whimsical smile on my face.
  • + 5
 @acraftygnome what? you're strange man. most people who want a 26 get a 27.5 because its the only thing their LBS offers. I got a 27.5 because it was the only bike i could afford that had a reasonable build and had geo i liked that i could fit on.
  • + 5
 not many people bought new bikes? still alot 26 out there.
  • + 4
 If 275 bikes are sold out, that means they don't sell too well anymore isn't it? 26 for life!
  • + 10
 or the 275 bikes bought by joeys probably still at home recovering from the injury they got at the parking lot drop.
  • + 5
 I had a 2012 Devinci Wilson 26, and the bike was awesome, but I upgraded to a 2015 GT Fury a couple of months ago and it is 27,5. In my honest opnion nothing has changed wheelsize wise! Actually the Wilson hadles rock gardens much better than the GT, and while bigger wheels might be better on paper, in real life there are other factors that matter much more, like geometry, parts, and rider. And even though both bikes are single pivot their behaviour is extremely different, and every difference I notice goes against the wheel size change, I found the GT easier to handle in berms and jumps, but less stable in rock gardens (that may be due it's crappy Boxxer RC, the Wilson had a 40), so at the end of the day this 27.5 thing is just a gimmick, at least for an average rider...
  • + 13
 I have a 27.5 and a 26.... there is pretty much no difference when you are riding
  • + 9
 Mostly:
26" bikes. Minion DHF tyres. Sun Ringle rims. Flat Pedals. Saint brakes. Boxxer forks. RC4 shox.
Park riders seem to know a thing or two about a thing or two. Tried and true.
  • + 16
 A 26" wheel with 2.5" tyres is EXACTLY as as big as a 27.5" wheel with 2.0" tyres.
This being said the difference between both is too small to create a whole new wheelsize for in my opinion.

There's nothing wrong with riding 27.5", but the difference is so small that it's just not worth throwing 26" away for.



I do think 29ers have benefits on some type of trails (mainly fast xc trails).
Just 27.5" seems like a bad reason to replace your tyres, wheels, fork and frame for. That's an expensive joke for a difference that is nearly nothing.
  • + 3
 well said!!
  • + 7
 @krazieghost, who gives a f*ck about survey at races? Most of the people don't race. They ride just for fun and that's all. And most of the people who race are sponsored and they ride what they've been told to ride. In fact there's no proof that there is anything faster than 26", so racers wouldn't care too much about the wheel size of their bikes.
  • + 0
 true dat.
  • + 7
 eat shit 650b
  • + 15
 The best thing about 650B and Enduro is that 26" DH bikes are ridiculously cheap on second hand market - rejoice!

Also with recent geometry trends, turning a 6" trail bike into DH bike with 2" less travel (current Enduro bikes have head angles and wheelbases of 2010 DH bikes or even longer), you do not need to sell your DH bike to ride Enduro (in sense they tell you what Enduro is). Buy CCDBair with climb switch, a dropper post with setback and a seat with long rails. Install post backwards and push the seat forward as much as you can. You should be able to reach seat angle of around 71 degrees. Done! I should sell it as a conversion kit.
  • + 1
 You should patent that Waki! Beer
  • + 0
 I'd say a huge % just bought a new, non dh bike in past two years so their dh expenditure won't be realized until 2016 most likely. And, dh bikes generally last longer/slower trnovr
  • + 4
 26" is never going to die, the bike companies just makes a new tire 27.5" so they can earn more money! if they do new frames that only works with the new 27.5" then people with 26" or other Wheel sizes will say "that new frame looks awesome but i cant just buy the frame, i got to buy the whole bike cuz i dont got any 27,5" wheels" you understand what i mean? and thats how the bike companies will earn more money because if you look at a 26" and a 27.5" ( look at @Mattin comment ) the difference is very small, thats why i think there are a new Wheel size and im not going to fall in their game so i will stay with my awesome 26" the same with the forks maybe there are coming some new forks that only works with the 27.5", im still not going to buy new Wheel sizes!
  • - 1
 I think the wheel size thing is down to the fact that we don't all get new bikes every year, and lots of folks will be riding things that are 5+years old. (I ride an 02 Cove G-spot)
  • + 13
 26" exists it is already here. I would be very surprised if some bigger company would not try to capitalize on the illusion that 26" is the most playful of MTB wheel. sizes. Then if you own a small company that used to hand build expensive hipster 29ers or try to make your own "new" DH bike and you don't take advantage of that, you are really losing out on the opportunity. As soon as 275 will go down, people will figure out that + sizes haven't change anything, 26 will get back some share of attention. I rode several different bikes on Kona test days lately, and sorry but you can ride a bike or you can't, you can send it through rockgarden on small wheels and conversely, scrub it, whip it on 29er, or you can't - if wheel size plays any bigger role in your riding, then you may want to rethink some things. There is this racing-wannabism driven dumb notion to optimize that make people post claims like: it is harder to pull out a wheelie or a manual on a 29er. Sorry if you can pop a wheelie for a 100ft+ then you will do it even on a road bike, even if to a limited degree.
  • + 4
 Fair comment WAKI. I have also ridden different sizes and agree that skills are transferable, but having ridden the same bike for so long, no way would I pull a wheelie on a road bike. Some of us don't like the bike market trying to decide what we want without giving us options.
  • + 3
 No company actually makes more money by selling a more diverse product line.
Having 2 or 3 options on the market where before 1 was enough raises development, mold, production, logistics and marketing cost as well as inventory risk for companies.

So in business sens it is a bad decision to diversify the market. From a purely economical point of few it would be best to have 1 product to work for everyone. (see Apple phone or the early days of Ford or Volkswagen)
Multiple options in the end only raise the retail price of a product and someone has to pay for that.
Of course in a market where a brand has competition this does not always work.
Someone needs to offer something new at times to stay in business... and that really is the only reason for different wheel sizes.
Some brand will do it to catch the attention of a potential customer and if more people are paying attention to one of these things than more companies will follow and we have a new trend!

Sorry to break the news but it has nothing to do with what YOU like or what would be better for you, it has to do with what marketing story the guy from the shop thinks the guy with the cash will be able to falls for easiest... and that is not cycling exclusive, that goes for phones, snowboards, cars. anything really.
  • + 5
 Apple has already diversified the IPhone. Diversification is not good in the battle but is good for winning the war. It is a weapon to kill off competition, or at least grab some share of the market before others manage to do it. Look at automotive industry and how many cars you have between tiniest and the biggest of Volkswagens. What is fkng ridiculous is that there is so little variation between bikes, almost everyone plays the safe game here. I could not care less whether I ride Giant Reign, Spec Enduro, Scott Genius, Trek Remedy or SC Bronson, Capra or Spectral. Give me more stupid long MOndrakers, Cannondales with stupid suspension, give me something stupid damn it! Surprise me
  • + 2
 yeah, the thing is if Trek or another big name company, Spesh, Giant, whatever, covered all the bases and did it all VERY well and actually listened to the f*ckin consumers for what they wanted, they would sell even more bikes and better yet (for them), take sales away from other companies all while providing the consumers with shit they're 100% on.

If trek (i'm partial to them and familiar with their bikes so i'll use them) made the session in Carbon and Alu, 26 and 275, in 203 and 180mm they'd cover almost every DH need, and they already have the Slash and Remedy to take up the AM markets, and they're both incredible. then you have their Superfly uber XC, they're Fuel EX as the more laid back XC, their Farley as the playful fat bike and the Stache needs to drop this 29+ Bull and just stick to a 29/275 AM ripper
  • + 3
 Well, with snowboards, you have camber, reverse camber, flat camber and hybrids, but you have them all and you can mount the same binding on them and same boot on this same binding. Unless you're Burton, there are still options and small changes that evolve the sport. In other words there are reasonable changes. You don't change the binding mount (unless you're Burton) because 4 bolts mount works perfect as 20mm front axle. In MTB you don't have options and you don't have reasonable changes, but you have countless standards. That's does not evolve the sport. It only evolves someone's bank account. In real life companies are trying to grab as much money as they can from your pocket, but they do that by giving you something you need, something you want and something that will works better for you. In MTB industry nobody cares for your needs and for your wishes.
  • + 12
 okay okay okay... lets all just agree... pressfit is fuckin stupid and that should be abolished.
  • + 0
 I am not disagreeing with you mentalhead but in real life, companies compete with each other for the client and variety of products is the weapon. If there would be no competition things would look differently. But that is not realistic, Innovate or die from Spesh, is very very true, the only thing missing is what do they mean by innovation. Good stuff happens every now and then, look at Sram and their 1x drivetrains vs Shimano and their dumb electronics, which apart form being flashy, attractive devoice on it's own, are the only mean of keeping front mech alive on a mountain bike.

TFreeman - buying force does not know what they want, and so most of people calling themselves "informed". Design in all forms in all areas of life is much more often proactive than reactive, and if it is reactive it is often an answer to follow/develop existing product that already caught on (Apple?). Current trend in Enduro geometry will backfire because "Joeys" (like it or not: the buying force)don't need such long wheelbases and slack head angles, it plays at their disadvantage almost everywhere. Joey can utilize slack and long geo on fast straights, especially on rough, but everywhere else, he will muscle with the bike more than with his "old" bike, short and steep bike. Slack head angles are no problem on uphills for those who climb standing, but they are terrible for those who sit through tech sections. + wheel sizes are fantastic for Joeys because they make riding easier, more grip, more stability at all speeds. They roll slowly but who cares if you can uphill some rock garden in wet that you would not clear before within your skill set?
  • + 1
 yeah... and not everyone really needs 160mm which is why so many aggressive 140 and 120mm bikes are starting to come out.
  • - 1
 @WAKIdesigns, you got it the wrong way round, diversification is good for the battle but not for the war.
Short time wheel sizes led to more sales but in a few years if you look back at the whole 2010-2020 period the overall sales number will be not and the way the markets developed will not be significantly different from what it was the decade before or does anyone seriously think that all those people did ride the same bike forever and finally bought 29ers (because suddenly they could see something is visually different from their clunker) last year would suddenly buy new bikes every year????
Nope, they gonna ride the 29er for the next 15 years because its sooo great but the companies still have to develop all thees different standards which costs and customers have to pay for it...
  • + 1
 Wonder is any bike manufacturer reading this thread?
  • + 7
 no. they don't care... need proof? Boost.
  • + 1
 Ha ha you are so right!
  • + 1
 TFreeman - the thing is: buying force doesn't care. What buying force appreciates is story about improvement. I've witnessed seller bullshtn a client with all sort sof dumb features all too many times. People appreciate a good story, truth is irrelevant to them as long as they don't know it and are not presented with viable opinion/proof. And here sorry 1.We commenters are not buying force and 2. We are not a respectable source of opinion for "Joeys" who in fact need that story, 27+, boost, carbon or whatever, only to find excuse to make a purchase they are on the edge of making.

michibretz - I cannot either agree or disagree with you - because it is the history that judges which view is right Big Grin Was + size winnig battles or wars? And as we learn from history, nobody ever learns form history Big Grin
  • + 4
 WAKI, your writing style is similar to Steve Jones (Dirt mag). Wordy, convoluted, rambling, funny and usually, but not always arriving at a clear conclusion. Like Steve Jones your observations are more often than not completely correct!
  • + 4
 hahah rstwosix - that is funny you say that because I missed my chance of having my drawings ending up on Dirt pages because he didn't like my writing (which I can fully understand, I suck in writing in all 3 languages I speak) hahaha Big Grin
  • + 2
 Well I find it equally funny that he, the most unusual writer to grace the pages of an MTB mag, saw fit to find fault with your style. Ha ha. You usually do get your point across in the end! Keep it coming.
  • + 2
 He's cool and he doesn't have "I hate Fox" tattoo as some seem to suggest Razz
  • + 1
 New bike with new Geo and components will definitely be better, 27.5 wheels being a part of that
  • + 1
 You just shot down your own argument there... 2 different bikes with different components and geometry handling differently but you say it's solely the wheelsize...
  • + 1
 It's would be interesting to see an age chart on the 26 for life groups, young guns, or older, established and crotchety riders...I'm still on 26 myself, but my next bike will be 27.5...because you know, choice. And I'm 33.
  • + 2
 you could just look at everyone's profile and see how old we all are
  • + 4
 Old and set in my 26" ways!
  • + 2
 "bbbuuutttt 27.5 makes you so much better...sniffle sniffle" ....
  • + 1
 I just rode Trek Power-fly with 250W electric engine. It wheelies, bunny hops, rides tight turns like normal bike, you don't feel the additional weight almost at all. I could ride it with RS Tora and 24" wheels on Larsen TT tyres, and I would still kick 10k $ Carbon Nomad in the face. Wheelsize debate? Ti screws? Tuned suspension? Wider rims? Electronic Gears? - don't be ridiculous, get a motor onto your bike, it's cheaper than carbon version of Superfly without engine. The only thing that can stop you from enjoying it is: ideology or depleted battery. What stops me from buying it as my second bike? Only the price. Holy mother of Bejesus, that was fun. I claim: evolution of MTB is over.
  • + 2
 not really cycling if you have an engine, even if its not that powerfull
  • + 1
 very cool, sounds fun but its riding a motorcycle and i that's not what i want to do when i go to ride a bicycle... When i want to go and ride Moto on the other hand i think its worth giving it a try.
  • + 1
 mmmm no, until today i shared that view of: "why don't you just ride a moto?". here you pedal, more, like a maniac! Because your legs are your throttle, and you just want more of that acceleration, more speed. then it handles like a regular mountain bike. What sucks is power cut off at 18 MPH. to me it's nowhere different than carbon fibre, experimenting with wheel size, electronic gears, new dampers, which currently are mothing more but lame yet ridiculously expensive attempts at shaving tenths of seconds.
  • + 0
 My mate sent me a video on facebook of what looks like a DH bike with a motor. I'd be keen on one. A motorbike has the drawbacks of noise, registration and having to pedal or push to the top. Since electric bikes are still unregulated, you'd be enjoying the best of both worlds. Plus, a motorbike starts at 90kg, whereas this thing looks to be less than half of that. I guess what you're looking to get out of your experience. For me, the pedalling part isn't that high on the list.
  • + 1
 Ha ha WAKI opens another can of worms! E bikes are fun. I've ridden a few and I like them. The ones with built in sensors use the motor to assist pedaling, which means you are still riding a bike, but it goes up hills fast! Eliminates shuttles. More time to ride anywhere. What's not to like? MTB purists be damned.
  • + 1
 i woud never buy one because I know that there is no end to this and after some time when I get used to the motor, I will want a stronger motor, lighter battery, longer lasting battery etc. It's just that it is the very same principle - why do we buy carbon frames and wheels? Because we believe they make us faster and then comes this "more playful" bullsht. But it's cool to ride one of them super bikes from time to time. I guess it's like with meeting a pornstar - that can be a fantastic week but not necessarily martiage hahaha
  • + 1
 True. I'm not buying one, but they are fun.
  • + 1
 As soon as I see one that looks like the right bike at the right price I'm getting one and waving goodbye to knee pain. Unless the legislators beat me to it and declare them to be motorcycles requiring registration plates and insurance etc
  • + 1
 I have to agree that e-bikes can be pretty fun, but also that I wouldn't buy one. E-bikes over here are for fat people (who are too fat/lazy to commute on a normal bike) and for old people (who can't ride normal bikes anymore because they are too old, but do think it is wise to ride 25km/h on an e-bike while they can hardly even walk anymore: pretty much a suicide attempt, probably sponsored by the government to descrease the ageing of the population Razz )
  • + 2
 Mattin - killing off people above 65 is not a bad idea in any form, it may prove vital for fighting climate change and improving economy. I myself, around 45 will start learning winter climbing, around 60 I am planning to go to Himalaya and do some soloing 8000m peaks, a very noble form of suicide I find. I just don't want my kids to carry my cadavre and clean bed sheets after diaper couldn't take any more of my crap. I am selfish but not an a-hole, a-holes are cowards affraid to admit it.
  • + 2
 WAKI I get your joke with Mattin re old age, but not all people fit the stereotype. I'm 67 this year - I'm not fat and lazy and although my back and knees are playing up I still live for the buzz of hauling my freeride bike up the hill to bomb down my 2.6 km flow trail. I also spend a lot of time maintaining and building better berms and jumps. At your age I didn't even think I'd make 60, but here I am recently retired from my job at the local bike shop, I've got plenty of projects on the go and any many ways couldn't be happier. Ha ha. .
  • + 1
 Mu gran was the happiest she had ever been from 80-87
  • + 2
 I admire you deeply rstwosix, that's the best thing you can do for yourself and your kids. In my family it's not as good. My granny died of cancer and last year of her life was a horrible struggle for the whole family, then my wives grandmother and my uncle have Parkinson and slowly slip away, which takes incredible toll on their close ones. My parents are losing their mind from being retired in front of TV, my mother is getting seriously overweight, it´s going to be tough as I live far away from them. In all those cases we are dealing with incredibly stubborn people in very poor mental and physical condition. Think similar care as for 1 year old, but weighing 300lbs. Having small kids, where my son hasn't had 3h of sleep in a row since over a year, every night is a fkng mightmare, devoting 99% of time away from work to them, I know as soon as kids will get a bit older,6,7, it will be time to take care of my parents to send them away which will mean sacrificing all I am working hard for or leaving them to die alone in elderly home I will pay sht loads for. I have little perspective for my own life, and time I will be able to devote to my kids when they will be teenagers. No riding with my son, changing diaper for granny, after she calls me all the worst. I've seen it. So while I am not telling anyone to kill someone or to kill himself, I am quite setup for killing myself while I still can after 60, because I don't believe in this transcendental ideas of care for another human being, I've seen enough in my home, in hospitals. Every year during winter depression I contemplate suicide already. I will be no burden to anyone, not in a tiniest piece. I want people who I love to enjoy time with me, not pretend they like taking care of me and so they need to pretend to themselves that it enriches their life somehow - it fkng doesn't. I already wrote 2 letters to myself, which I will open after 50
  • + 1
 @ RS Two Six: Actually over here it is really the truth with e-bikes. Here in The Netherlands cycling is the most used type of transport. There are more bikes than people in this country, and pretty much every single person, young or old, uses a bike to commute within the city (unless extremely lazy/fat, or psysically injured). We do have a lot of problems with elderly people who don't have the power to ride bikes anymore, who all buy an e-bike, ride it with 25km/h while their minds are not able to respond fast enough for that speed. The ammount of accidents of elderly people on e-bikes is very high due to that in this country and the government is currently debating how to change the laws to bring these numbers down.

It is awesome to hear that you can ride freeride at your age, to me that is very inspirational. I hope to be able to follow your path with that. Although my back has already caused me so much trouble that I hardly ever do freestyle anymore, and just keep it 'safe' by riding on the roads and XC. I hope you can keep on riding bikes happily for many more years Smile



@WAKI: Sucks to hear about your personal situation. Stay strong and don't let it take you down. Don't do anything stupid, things will get better in the end. Isn't there any possibility for you to catch a break in the winters to travel to Greece for example to catch some better weather during the winter months? I found that even just a short summer break mid winter will make the winter feel much much shorter. Try to take good care of yourself aswell, in the end that is the most important! You need to take good care of yourself in order to be able to take care of others aswell (else you can't help them either). Stay strong!
  • + 3
 WAKI you painted a sad picture of your life. Not the usual online WAKI we know - talented artist with a sense of humour, satirical wit and astute observation of the human condition. You are valued. A lot of us go through all kinds of shite in our lives. I wrote about the positive side of my life at 66 (most people don't wan't to hear the down side), but the fact is it hasn't been all roses. At age 30 - in a difficult marriage with 3 kids. At 40 - divorced and happily remarried, but have developed a drinking problem. At 48 - full blown alcoholic with liver disease. At 50 - sober (it's fecking hard) and started riding MTB. At 60 - still sober and still happily married thanks to supportive wife who helped me kick the booze. MTB and trail building a major part of my life. At 66 diagnosed with Cancer (Lymphoma). 5 months of Chemo (it's hell). In remission since Feb. Back on my bike and rebuilding the neglected trails! Ok I've got Cancer and it's probably going to be the thing that kills me, but as I said a few paragraphs above, I'm now retired, living near the beach, riding & trail building whenever I want, faffing with bikes in my shed, walking and swimming with my wife - in many ways I couldn't be happier. One day at a time, I tell myself.
  • + 2
 Mattin, I hear what you say about oldies on E bikes over there. Thanks for your kind words - I too hope to keep on riding for many more years!
  • + 158
 Wheres the poll for people riding bikes far more capable than they are?
  • + 106
 99%
  • + 30
 *applause*
  • + 45
 Kind of a dick comment.
  • - 29
flag elong801 (May 6, 2015 at 16:30) (Below Threshold)
 Not to mention who had daddy buy them there bike/ parts... The highest percentage items in each category are mainly higher end parts.

Either that or people live outta there cars or have a bunch of roommates.
  • + 104
 Someone's jelly...
  • + 9
 Hell yeah!!! Haha
  • + 43
 If a rider who can barely pedal down a trail has a $10,000 bike, exactly how does that effect you? Why do you care?
  • + 98
 I would rather ride a bike that is more capable than me than the other way around.
  • + 4
 Slows me down Wink
  • + 62
 I fall into that category and love every minute of it. If I can afford it why the f should you care. haters gonna hate and potatos gonna potate.
  • + 10
 yeah I'm sure 99% of people who went to whistler on opening day have no clue how to ride a bike.
  • + 22
 Or, elong801, they have... jobs and make money.
  • + 16
 @elong801 - some of us went to college...
  • - 13
flag elong801 (May 6, 2015 at 22:45) (Below Threshold)
 I saved myself the collage loans and 4 years of my life, and got certifications that only took me a few months... But I'm also married and have mortgage and bills to pay. I love biking the same as everyone else. But I have to buy parts on my own. So forgive me if it blows me away that the majority of people at whistler can afford the top end components for EVERYTHING. I'm glad you all can afford to buy the high end stuff, I bet we ride about the same level still....
  • + 18
 Mate life's not fair... lucky those rich kids cant buy your mad skills!
  • + 6
 @elong801: It indeed really depends where you are from and on your living situation. For example a doctor in The Netherlands would be able to buy a brand new Hummer just so he has an extra car where his bike fits in the trunk, to take it to the bikeparks every once in a while, while an average doctor in East Europe would be happy if he can save up money for a very cheap 2nd hand bike and just be able to keep that one rolling.

Also please note, the pictures are taken in Canada (wealthy country as far as I know), plus at the opening of the bike park. So this is a compilation of people who are wealthy enough to travel all the way there to shred at the opening. This is not a view of the average rider, but the ones who can afford trips like this, and they can also afford the nicest bikes.

A third thing is deals. Mainly 2nd hand deals. You can build your dream bike for roughly 20-30% of the price it would cost if you would get it built in the shop. The secret: wait patiently for the great deals to come by. I once built a fully custom dirt jump bike for €400, of which the new price would have ben over €2000. It took me a bit more than a year to get it finished though. The fact that the bikes are worth that much new, doesn't mean they have actually spent that much on it.
  • + 0
 statistic can be done based on the comments above Big Grin
  • + 8
 Watch out, if you don't go big enough to justify your DH rig, thunder13 is going to make you trade it in for a trail bike!
  • + 0
 Affording the bike is one thing, riding it to justify cost is a matter or how much fun you're having on it. Question: Is a mainstream production bike and it's components really worth $10K; What's the material value of a bike, and is engineering, shipping and Chinese manufacturing really worth an extra $9K?
  • + 4
 @elong801 - Some people just like nice things... not everyone who wears designer clothes is a runway model. Not every who rides a $10k bike is a pro racer. Good for you if you can keep up.
  • + 6
 @Auggie99 - why would you think that? I feel like the people who go on opening day are the people who have been waiting for it to open ever since it closed the year before (i.e. people who ride regularly).
  • + 2
 Thats everyone who hasn't turned pro ! Also, can you put a price on having fun? You could say the same about anyone who owns a flash sports car that will never (legally on the road) get driven to its full potential.
  • + 5
 I guess that anyone not riding the World Cup is not using the bike's full potential... Maybe even anyone not on the top 20 spots of the WC...
  • + 0
 You can buy a complete ibis hd3 for under $4k. Then the savvy shopper can upgrade it as they go, or with preowned parts. Then folks c ur bike and hate cuz it 'looks' like u spent $7-10k. Make money, have fun, be prudent!
  • + 1
 are you saying your dream bike is a magna? because that way you can push it past its limits?
  • + 1
 @Alias530 I was being sarcastic. I completely agree with you and think this whole argument is a little ridiculous
  • + 3
 I'm always stoked to see new people at the bike park out there shredding the wheels off of a clapped out ten year old stinky, rocking jeans and a dirt lid. It puts things in perspective. More so than the tough-talking, noob-ridiculing poser-bro with his $10,000 bike that only leaves the ground when it's loaded onto a chairlift. Sadly, I know of more than a few real-life examples of the latter.

Then again, it's always really fun to hear their excuses when they get passed by the guy who's bike sounds like a filing cabinet being pushed down a flight of stairs.
  • + 1
 Haha I actually wear a dirt lid, jeans and ride a rattling 2004 Kona Stinky. I'm not a racer though so I'm not fast. I'm in it for the air time and to fly as much as possible, not to make it down the trail 2 seconds faster. Keeping the old school spirit alive in the old school bike haha.
  • + 125
 Theres just that one guy out there riding a cove playmate, a marzocchi junior T, a marzocchi rocco, hayes 9, some deore parts, jalco wheels, some nevegals and probably rides flats with gloves.... theres always that one guy....
  • + 42
 Whats wrong with that?
  • + 26
 Nothing, but you always stop and do a double take....be like whoa.
  • + 47
 Bet those junior t's are still running pretty sweet.

And yeah I can just imagine the bike you're describing. Razz Its probably got a 70mm stem and 3" rise bars too. Bottom bracket about 2 feet off the ground.
  • + 0
 The fact that most people surveyed on opening day of a downhill bike park have 26 inch wheels does not really prove anything one way or the other. 27 inch dh bikes came out like a year ago. So unless you just bought a DH bike you are prob on 26...
  • - 2
 I hope that guy was also riding 29+
  • + 3
 hopefully running 3" wide tires, AKA 26+
  • + 1
 gotta be a pair of nokian gazzaloddi on there too, running max PSI
  • + 4
 Gazzoloddis made the original fat bikes like 10 years ago...
  • + 2
 and you gotta stop and give the dude props!!
  • + 54
 Im guessing it's 84% are men, not 84% on enduro bikes?
  • + 13
 correct
  • + 0
 I am wondering that too... But nof certain
  • + 19
 I'm stoked to see 16% of riders out there are female on opening day! Yes, by far the majority are male which makes sense, but 16% ladies ain't bad for first day of the season!
  • - 22
flag Monacchesi (May 6, 2015 at 19:55) (Below Threshold)
 Enduro bikes, lady's bikes? What's the difference? Smile haha
  • + 2
 Well for one it was a guy on the enduro bike in the pics, and a girl on the DH...
  • + 51
 data collected in Whistler is useless anywhere else in the galaxy.
  • + 31
 Kona Stab =2% Keeping it real
  • + 5
 True that. I really want a 2004 Stab. No idea why, I just like the old school looks of it.
  • + 28
 26" definitely aint dead baby!
  • + 18
 If we want our sport to grow we need to encourage all comers, and tone down all the bulls*t rhetoric on wheel size, cost of bikes, who wears what, this vs that!! I can see a lot of these comments turning off new comers. Can't we all just ride for fun, regardless of what we ride, how we paid for it etc??? Sorry to get all serious but when did we (bikers) become such a pretentious, opinionated, stubborn lot? Just sayin'.
  • + 2
 I'm in the same boat as you.
  • - 1
 I have an opinion on your comment. And I will gladly share it with all 1.000.000.000 pinkbike viewers, not because I should, but because I can. And it has absolutely nothing to do with getting props or my shallow self-image.
  • + 1
 @hillatoppa I was just saying I agree... Props don't count for anything so I don't see why gaining them would be a goal to achieve.
  • + 1
 Sarcasm. Not yet invented on Pinkbike.
  • + 1
 Sarcasm is very often used on Pinkbike, that just wasn't very easy to perceive as sarcasm.
  • + 20
 last stat: 90% 26in vs 10% 27.5in.

26 aint dead
  • - 4
flag B650wagon (May 6, 2015 at 20:49) (Below Threshold)
 Next year 50/50, year after.....50/50
  • + 18
 I guess we were right all along about the 26" wheel and DH bikes, cause it ain't broke and I'm not gonna fix it.

Thank you for this survey, pinkbike.
  • + 15
 Agreed. Sticking with my 26ers.
  • + 18
 26folyfeyoloswag420blazeit
  • + 0
 It's definitely not because 650B DH bikes have only been widely available for like, a year.

Check back next year. it'll say 20%.
  • + 20
 Need more girls!
  • + 4
 To be honest 16% is a lot higher than I expected.
  • + 20
 Where my Gamblers at?!?
  • + 4
 I saw a few plus mine maybe half a dozen, couple of voltage as well
  • + 16
 Bikes, I bet the answer is bikes.
  • + 14
 26" FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 10
 You know you're über mainstream when you ride a Demo with Boxxers, DHX shocks, Saint brakes, Minions tyres, flat pedals, wear gloves and are being male.
  • + 9
 Who the hell cares between 26 vs 27.5. I have both and they don't feel that different. As long as I can find a good tire for either I don't really care. I pick a frame that I like what ever the wheel size may be.
  • + 2
 Thats the whole thing. The difference is so small (26x2.5" is equally high as 27.5"x2.0") that many people think it is not worth having a complete new wheelsize for and needing to replace the wheelset, tyres, fork and frame.

Especially when you have 2 bikes it is nice to be able to switch around with parts to be able to create the perfect set up for the trail you are going to hit.
  • + 11
 Interesting to only 10% on 27.5, wonder what that will look like next season?
  • + 8
 I guess the brodie 8 ball rocking the 2003 Super T didn't show up for opening this year.
  • + 3
 I saw a Brodie Devo and a Norco VPS monocoque frame though! Equally impressive.
  • + 9
 I really liked this
  • + 8
 No Canfield frames mentioned.
  • + 3
 Yea. . . . They need to push them to the locals.
  • + 2
 I think I counted about 3or4 Jedi's and a balance
  • + 19
 Canfield riders don't stop for a poll. They get right back on the lift ASAP.
  • + 6
 There were 3 mentioned in the first post...none made the spread sheet. Just saying.
  • - 2
 Shit like this makes me hate pinkbike lol.
  • + 2
 I can't wait for the lift season, I have a Balance and am itching to tear it up.
  • + 1
 Weather has been great here in Far-Nor-Cal and I've been ripping it up. This bike shreds the local gems we frequent. Can we say "Shred-o-matic"
  • + 5
 Why don't they do a survey of the FEST riders bikes... 100%- 26" / 0%- 27.5"

Do you want to ride like the FEST guys?.... or buy into the bullsh@t Mountain BIke Industry Marketing????
  • - 1
 As I can remember, there've been few 27,5 bikes on the CruzFest, i.e. gamblers, carbon tues, etc.
  • + 7
 Carbon tues was a 26 proto for zink
  • + 7
 Hey Maxxis, It';s me again.... Now Can I get some 26" 2.7 DHF's in the 60a & 3C compounds????

Thanks in advance.
  • + 7
 while were at it maxxis, im still waiting for more ust ready 26" dh tires
  • + 3
 I really did ask them last month in an Email.. Their reply was that they are only making the 2.7 " DHF 26" tires in the super tacky compound. I'll rip those to shreds in a weekend if I use it as a rear tire.
  • + 3
 @whitebullit - regular Maxxis DH tyres seal up more than well on most UST ready rims, like ZTRs or WTB Frequency. I had no problem what so ever to seal Minion DHR 2,5" 60a 2ply on Shimano XT UST rim which is not as tight as ZTR+tape for instance. I am told that regular Maxxis are actually better to set up tubeless than dedicated Maxxis UST tyres in 2-ply casings.
  • + 1
 waki id like to believe you as this would be great news, but i dont know if your just pulling my leg... i run ex823's on both my bikes so if it didnt work id have a tire i couldnt use. and with my experience the maxxis ust offerings seal great with the mavic ust system.
  • + 2
 I run ex823's with non UST 2.5 minions. No issues. 2.7's are more than I've ever needed.
  • + 1
 You are probably not 6'4" and 220lbs either. 2.5 are fine on my AM bikes, but feel like xc tires on my DH bike to me
  • + 1
 im 5'11" 224lbs geared up on my dh bike, run a 2.5 highroller out back and a 2.5 minion dhf in the front, i wanna try a shorty out front instead of the dhf, but 2.5 is plenty wide, any fatter is just too slow, if you want big tires buy a fatbike lol.
  • + 1
 whitebullit - 823s seal up exceptionally well compared to other Mavic rims I had, and I have no clue why other's don't. Regular DH tyre will seal up more than great and it may even be that you will be able to do it with track pump only as those both tyres and rims are tight mdrfkrs. Just remember to put sealant all over the rim and all over the tyre bead otherwise that bastard will not pop out and while with tube it is only a minor hassle, with tubeless and white crap all over it may be extremely irritating.
  • + 1
 @whitebullit I was replying to tetonlarry, not you, Out here is dry slippery all the time. Going 40-45mph on that stuff is scary with 2.5 unless I run them at 20 psi. Every done Kamakazi? most people I know my size at the speeds I go like a bigger tIre and run the 2.7. I just got a set of shortys, they are great in wetter conditions and hero dirt, haven't tried on dry yet.
I've Ridden FS fatbikes, no thanks
  • + 2
 i hear you man, i washed out my front tire in some loose gravel last year and broke a rib and bruised the others, i run a 2.5 highroller on the rear and a 2.5 nevagal on the front of my AM bike and it feels way more stable in the corners than with the dhf up front. and a 2.5 nevagals probably pretty close to a 2.7 maxxis offering. i will certainly be trying a shorty in the future though.
  • + 1
 Shorty works in wet on soft surfaces, on hard surfaces it squirms and becomes unpredictable. in loose dry it just creates unnecessary resistance.
  • + 1
 @whitebullit no worries. Yeah it's a whole different deal in certain conditions. On my DH bike, I am actually faster with the 2.7 because I can push it harder, (& = more fun). I had to hold back all the time until I started using the 2.7 about 5 years ago. I'm so bummed that they are making me use the Super Tacky 42a compound because they are so soft that they will literally fall apart in a day when I hit paver sections at Mammoth and Big Bear bikeparks. I went through 2- 60a compound tires and 2- 3C compound tires last year in about 35 days of park riding. It will probably be twice that with these 42a's out back.

I really like having matching tire sizes front and back, especially when counter-steering (or counter pressure) on corners because it's more predictable for me. I only like having a tougher compound in back as a compromise for economic reasons, and most people do this anyway. Even Schwalbe recommends their Trailstar in front and their Pacestar in back. I'm surprised that Maxxis, the makers of the best DH tires in the world according to many, would do away with tires that are clearly still in demand. They make a 2.7 ST 42a, why not the others??? Isn't it the same molds anyway? A month ago, there were guys selling the 60a and 3C on eBay for $200, total price gouging because they had the last ones available. I pointed this out to Maxxis in my email and they gave the reply I stated above.

Maybe if more people emailed them and pointed out this article they would listen, because the money is there.
  • + 1
 The DHF in 2.7 is about same size as HR2 or ardent in 2.4 or a Magic Mary. Not really the 2.7 26+ size...
  • + 1
 ^^^yep, that is correct sir^^^
  • + 7
 Wait who is still running a Junior T?
  • + 19
 You on your Big Hit FSR '04?
  • + 1
 Unfortunately no that steed has been retired. JR T was my first dual crown.
  • + 3
 Anyone else wonder if Its actually just one guy with a bunch of Pinkbike accounts that keeps ranting about "26 for life bro"? Seriously though; the number of comments on this post alone that try to prove the exact same point is hilarious.
  • + 6
 26" for life bro!!!!!!!!
  • + 7
 No YETI 303s? Hmm....interesting.
  • + 1
 I only saw one 303, and a SB66, and a couple of those new switch infinity bikes
  • + 4
 I think I was the only guy who ran a fully stock ride, reflectors still on the pedals. New el cheap O Aurum. No need to up grade a thing.
  • + 4
 Im surprised to see that there was not one 29er out of the hundred surveyed... I know there are more of us out there riding the "big wheels" in the park haha!
  • + 3
 Haha The only thing is that there just aren't any 27.5 bikes to buy yet This industry can't keep up to its own hype Trying to make it down the mtn on pinner 26 has to be a challenge
  • + 6
 90% of 26 size => normal..
  • + 2
 Sorta surprised to see no DVO stuff in the suspension categories.. out of all the people that were there, somebody must have had to be on a pimped out bike with a pretty, green inverted fork and DVO coil shock.
  • + 16
 DVO owners are probably at work in the office
  • + 1
 Good point haha
  • + 1
 And where are my MRP Stage'rs at?
  • + 5
 This was cool. Thanks for posting it. Interesting.
  • + 5
 I can't wait for more info on the Prototype Rocky Mountain!!!
  • + 6
 Homemade bikes = 1%
  • + 6
 but... isn't 26 dead?
  • + 3
 was not surprised to see most riding Devincis but was quite surprised many are ridinng avids.
  • + 3
 RIP Iron Horse. Last year there were still a few Sundays on the list. The King is Dead, Long live the King!
  • + 4
 No Enve rims, you'd think someone would have them
  • + 4
 Potatoes are my favorite vegetable.
  • + 6
 Potatoes are not vegetables. Potatoes are legumes
  • + 8
 Potatoes are not legumes. Potatoes are tubers.
  • + 1
 Thank you! We stand corrected! What else are tubers?
  • + 0
 10% of riders on 650b. Any of you see the pics from opening day? team Devinci was on hand. Stevie and gang all on 650b's. how close does that put the pole to 10% of riders on 650b? now add all the 650b all mtn bikes that have been schralpin' around the last few years=10%
  • + 5
 26 !!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 5
 Hell yea! 26 forever.
  • + 2
 My takeaway: for all the flack that Gwin got over the past two years since moving to Specialized, it sure seems like him riding Spesh is working.
  • + 3
 Except for the demo in top, the bike list would look very different in a euro park.
  • + 2
 i realy want to go there but i cant sooooo......... stuck at home for the whole of the summer
  • + 1
 Yeah nice to see the Banshee Rune up there. I'm surprised to see so many risking those spency xo's on the DH. Anyone know what those multi coloured flats are?
  • + 1
 DMR Andreu Lacondeguy Signature Pedal
  • + 1
 Thanks! Would be nice to see a whole component spec like this.
  • + 2
 Only 2/100 riding Trek Sessions. I know it's a very small sample but that's very surprising!
  • + 2
 nice to see santa cruz and transition in there with the top sell-out brands
  • + 3
 surprised trek session numbers were so low
  • + 1
 Good to see people are still reping zerodes out there Best bike park bike I have owned my g1 did two full season over 1200 runs and the only thing the broke was the forks
  • + 2
 So how many bikes means 1% in Frames category? I'm just wondering how popular NS Fuzz is...
  • + 6
 100 bikes for each were checked, so 1% = 1 bike
  • + 15
 So that means that the 1% NS Fuzz was me? Aww I feel so spceial.
  • + 1
 the quantity of enduro bikes is so bigger than last year ... even in the opening season trailer all the dudesare on giants reign !!!!
  • + 2
 All I know is that my 26 felt like I was plowing snow compared to my 29 I have been riding all winter.
  • - 10
flag MX298 (May 6, 2015 at 16:39) (Below Threshold)
 Can't believe you posted that? . . . . . Both my boys are on 650b DH bikes. They roll up so fast!
  • + 2
 I hear you buddy - it's always an eye opener when I jump off my 29er trail bike onto my 27.5 enduro bike. Feels like riding in molasses! But then retaining top speed isn't everything haha
  • + 3
 All those bikes and no one on Enves.
  • + 1
 In most places, a person can buy a reasonable car for less than a pair of Enve wheels.
  • + 1
 Anyone have trouble with that 10sp x9 short cage on a dh bike? I can ride a day and a half at Northstar before the cable breaks right at the bend into the derailleur.
  • + 1
 Too bad, no Canfield Jedi frame, No DVO suspension, and no magura mt7 brakes, guess there are very few of us.
  • + 1
 riding a DEVINCI SPARTAN 650B with fox 34 forks and rear, flat pedals Smile on opening day May 2.
  • + 1
 Weird how there's not more ohlins shocks seen as the most common frame was the demo?
  • + 1
 You telling me there's more Marzocchi Junior T's than there are Rockshox Totems at Whistler bike Park? Madness!
  • + 1
 Presumably the high % of 27.5" bikes is a result of most riders at Whistler buying spanking new bikes?
  • + 1
 like Bikeradar has been saying all along, quality at low price is a 5 star...
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 I didn't want a 650b for my new build so I got a 2011 Turner Flux, the thing just rocks, 26 AINT DEAD!
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 ONLY 2% of kona operators ??????? in europe it has to be about 15% at least !
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 Surprised no GT Furys showed up
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 Always one guy with a junior t fork or monster t XD
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 I want the old Shivers Frown
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 Run the same poll at the end of the season and see the split between 27.5 and 26. Suspect the numbers of 27.5 will be much higher.
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 Most likely this will be the case because warping a wheel or wearing out a tire will necessitate the purchase of a new bike. Manufacturers are all too eager to move 26 into absolute obscurity in order to sell more new bikes. 26 wasn't broke, so why has the industry "fixed" it?
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 Where are the inmortal Ironhorse Sundays??????
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 Fuckya 26
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 Just ride!
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 26er of course Trek remedy 9.7 CARBON 888 FRONT END SRAM X9 XO 4 PISTON TRAIL BRAKES mavic wheels! Flats !
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 This..............is how you do a survey.
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 I told you guys every year again an again an again 26 INCH IT'S THE SIZE!!!
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 keep the whistler articles coming. can't wait for the garbanzo to open and we'll be heading up!
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 Hum... Seem like I was the only one riding a banshee slope bike and hit all the courses
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 Am I the only guy running a Shimano Sora derailleur on a dh bike?
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 Altus here lol
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 That is after someone stole my bike that had a 105 and my XTR that broke in half. Hope to replace it with something more decent soon...
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 29FL bitches!
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 I like 29ers, but I would prefer them on fast xc trails rather than in a bikepark.
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 To be honest I like 26" and I like 29".
27.5" is just too small of a difference to create a whole new wheelsize for IMO.
I mean, a 26" wheel with a 2.5" tyre wheel is EXACTLY as high as a 27.5" wheel with a 2.0" tyre.
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 Except why would you compare a 2.0 tire to a 2.5? If you're running a 2.5 26", then you're likely to run a 2.5 27.5". It's not like all of a sudden you start running xc tires when you change wheel sizes. Haha.
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 My point is that switching tyre size (inside the still normal range) can make as much difference as changing wheel size.

It just shows how minimal the difference is. That it is not worth replacing 70% of your bike for.



It's not like people are saying "I want my wheel to be exactly 681mm high at any costs", what you're suggesting Razz
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 U watch, next year.......30%, 27.5. , 70% 26"
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 I'll take the under for $5,000
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 I'll take winners percentage and act as broker!
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 next year 50/50 !
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 VERY COOL! DO THIS FOR OPENING WEEKEND @ SNOW SUMMIT BIKE PARK!
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 I don't care as long As its not a 29er
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 Im surprised at the high number of girl riders...finally MTB might start being compatible with getti´n some ; )
  • + 12
 And this ladies and gentlemen is why it's so hard to get women into this sport...
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 Free choclate with a day pass should help.
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 I bet u not gettin any... ; )
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 I ride 26 because Fu*k you!
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 No love for x-fusion forks. People missing out
  • + 1
 No one else surprised about the neck brace stats!?
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 How many YT's next year?
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 Didn't realize they were keeping track of what we were riding,
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 About the missing neck brace stats?
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 No fatbikes? Damn.......
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 No YT TUES or Capra?
  • + 1
 Give it time.....
  • + 1
 No Bottlerockets? Damn!
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