What Was Loic Bruni Adjusting on His Fork in Lousa?

Nov 3, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
Screenshot: Red Bull TV

Shortly after the hype dies down in the finish area of a World Cup, the photographers typically grab the winning bike to snap a few quick shots to file later in the evening. In Lousa, that wasn't possible. Amid all the excitement of Loic Bruni's win, his bike had been quietly ushered away and put back in its pits, away from curious eyes.

The reason is likely because Loic Bruni was running his bike a little differently than everyone else in Lousa, and the evidence of that was clear to see on the live feed. We have already seen his frame-mounted carbon box that seems to be concealing something connected to a switch on his handlebars, but in Lousa he seemed to be pressing another switch, this time on top of his fork.

It takes some serious guts to take a hand off your bars midway through a World Cup race run to flick a switch, and speculation is rife about what he might have been doing. Below is what we know and what we can guess from the evidence we have.

The modification was new for Lousa

Look at any picture of the top of Loic Bruni's fork from the past 12 months and you'll see that the cap on top of his left fork leg is gold, and the one on top of the right is blue. In Lousa, this was the other way round. This tells us that something was definitely different on Loic's fork for the races last week. Bruni had been testing in Lousa earlier in the year, and while Louzanpark closed the track so that it would be fair for all the riders, we've no doubt Loic will have got a pretty good idea of its layout. This seems like something he could have been cooking up with Ohlins for 6 months or more.

Loic's fork shot in Maribor - gold dial left, blue dial right
Loic's fork in Lousa - blue dial left, gold dial right. Original photo from Nathan Hughes, here.

Loic pressed the switch at the same point in both runs

In both races, Loic popped the switch as he fired out of the woods and down onto the road pedal section. It definitely seemed like a press, not a twist, as you would expect with a normal fork dial, which makes us think that it's an on/off, two stage system.

Given the position on track, we're assuming it's some sort of compression adjustment that made pedalling on the last straight along the road and the over the final few jumps easier for Loic. Looking at the footage, his fork seems supportive, but it still clearly moves, meaning this isn't a full lockout but more like a pedal platform. This suspicion is further confirmed by Loic later talking about it with Wyn Masters in Wyn TV. Loic said, "It's a bit of hydraulic for the pedalling, so it was a bit sketchy to take the hand off but I thought it was worth it. Pedalling and not having so much pumping on the front."
Loic's fork was definitely still compressing after flicking the switch so we know it wasn't a full lockout. Screenshot: Red Bull TV

We think the fork could be borrowing the climb mode feature from Ohlins' single crown RXF 36 fork. The RXF has four clicks of HSC adjustment - the first three clicks of HSC change the high-speed compression, but the fourth acts as 'climb mode,' turning it to the fourth position actually shuts off parts of the LSC circuit to create a firm LSC pedal platform.

This currently isn't a feature on the DH38 fork, but seeing as the double crown fork took a lot of design cues from its skinnier sibling, including the same TTX damper and piston design, it is more than possible that Ohlins have fitted a similar feature on Loic's bike.

Was it faster?

the animal that is Loic Bruni soaring into the finish arena. He achieved what he came here to do an did it with explosive fashion.

Possibly. Loic activated the switch mid-way through the fourth sector and didn't seem to switch it back before the end of the course. Loic was 2nd fastest through sector 4 and 6th fastest through sector 5 in race 1, and fastest through both splits in race 2. Take that with a pinch of salt though, this is Loic Bruni we're talking about, and he could have won these sectors with or without compression adjustment.

What will Ohlins tell us?

We reached out to Ohlins to see if they would give us any more information, and Terje Hansen, Racing Manager at Öhlins Racing, said:

“We are a brand committed to racing and making the fast even faster. A big part of our R&D is made within racing. It is an ongoing development process to make sure Specialized Gravity riders have the highest level of suspension performance at the starting gate. We do not get into details on their suspension equipment or set up, but winning features will be integrated in our products as a running change or a new model.”

Given that the fork now has a win racked up already, it may not be too long before we see this on Ohlins' consumer offerings.


176 Comments

  • 410 3
 NOS
  • 21 0
 That makes more sense
  • 52 9
 new old stock?
  • 18 48
flag silentbutdeadly (Nov 3, 2020 at 14:24) (Below Threshold)
 @kyytaM: nitrous oxide
  • 28 1
 @kyytaM: a fellow tube amp geek?
  • 156 1
 And on top of that, he just went into Harry's, and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS. And a Motec exhaust.
  • 36 0
 Slapped on a JEGS sticker. Extra 15 HP instantly.
  • 182 0
 The French and the Furious - Lousa Sprint
  • 2 0
 @me2menow Lol exactly my first thought
  • 14 1
 excited Paul Walker noises
  • 14 0
 Adjusting his Danny Hart sized balls, obviously.
  • 16 0
 Its the 7th and 8th gear changes you always hear in Fast and the Furious.
  • 22 0
 Not a bad way to spend 10 thousand dollars. Hope he doesn't have a stand alone fuel management system.
  • 29 0
 DANGER TO MANIFOLD!!!
  • 2 3
 @UKiwiRider: Vin Diesel
  • 6 0
 Too soon junior....
  • 2 0
 @Wakad00: MOTEC system exhaust...
  • 29 6
 Men is too simple.!

He before the sprint started he just closed a little the compression it hand. For the suspension stay a little more stiff for sprint and final jumps.

Not exist any switch he just turn clockwise the nut of compression.

Is a thing very simple and very smarter for brunni.

You can made the same in your fork not madder if you have a fox or rock shox or ohlins or other.

Lousã is a special track. In top is more technical and in bottom is flat. So a suspension it different setup is very good for this situation.

But is a think very simple not exist nothing special and any switch. I'm shore the ohlins are laughed when they ask if suspension have some switch... The brunni is a champion and he just closed a little the nut compression.

The ohlins in this moment is possible the best fork in market for mountain bike. But don't worry they not have nothing different from another world.

If I'm wrong please ohlins, specialized or pinkbike give me proves. Because I want know if are some more special....
  • 6 0
 He learned something from Dom Torreto
  • 10 0
 or Over The Top Stallone's thumb magic trick Smile
  • 3 0
 Was that Button Rouge
  • 22 0
 @flyingfox49: he was turning the volume button up to 11!
  • 3 0
 Thank you, Sir. Made me laugh real hard.
  • 5 0
 Loic: I live my life one world cup course at a time.
  • 2 0
 You mean NAWZZ!
  • 1 2
 Could be a throttle, E-Bike!
  • 2 0
 @remigio: Thankyou for talking some sense.
  • 1 0
 There could be a whole comments section on his comment alone@gabriel-mission9:
  • 144 1
 Probably a secret stash of tater-tots for a quick mid race carbo-load
  • 122 1
 baguette obviously
  • 38 0
 Fits perfectly in a fork leg, tastier than volume tokens for sure.
  • 2 0
 a snack stash makes sense to me
  • 95 1
 The French are more of a baguette people. Probably a switch that turns the internal dampening baguette from fresh to day old mode to stiffen the fork.
  • 2 0
 Somebody has to make a pizza slice holder for bikes
  • 19 0
 “Napoleon give me some of your tots”
  • 5 1
 @craigcanucks: You can't mention tots without mentioning Napoleon, I'm just glad I'm not the only one with that kind of humor hhaha
  • 4 0
 @craigcanucks: Have you taken your bike on any sweet jumps? You got like 2 feet of air that time!
  • 81 1
 That's just the SUPER BRUNI button... didn't you see the fireworks shoot out his ass and hear the trumpets blast?
  • 25 0
 Loic Lockout or Bruni Button??
  • 3 0
 SuBruBu?
  • 3 0
 I told you all it was the SuperBruni button.

He only engaged SuperBruni after half way down, as Jack told him "there isn't enough elixer syrum for a whole race run"
  • 10 0
 @Ride406orDie: Loicout Brutton?
  • 63 0
 You know you have your shit dialed if taking your hand off the bar going mach-effing-fast to adjust your fork seems more likely to result in a faster time than a full on cartwheeling explosion.... or he was just proving a point because someone refused to make him a remote!
  • 90 0
 And Minnaar with the mid air tear-off... competition the whole way down!
  • 18 0
 @sb666: That was so smooth and seamless. He could have pulled two.
  • 30 4
 Kade took both hands off and put them behind his back!
  • 13 1
 @suspended-flesh: and Tracey waved at everyone ! What skills !
  • 4 4
 @suspended-flesh: I finished how far back?
  • 6 0
 Yeah, it's weird they made him do that. Some Scott bikes come with an extra switch on the handlebar to put both the fork and shock into climb mode and back (via a cable routed down to the suspension). Seems like they could've rigged something similar.
  • 61 1
 Absolutely NOTHING, just psychological warfare for the last race and off season, Bruni is sly AF
  • 2 0
 As much as I agree that could be it, that doesn't make sense doing it on the very last run of the year though
  • 5 0
 @mtb-sf: of course it does, look at the media coverage and everyone talking about it, its genius
  • 9 0
 @mtb-sf: last game of the year Cotton, can't hold anything back.
  • 24 0
 Blue and gold caps Switched sides so he didn’t have to take his right hand off the fork would be my guess. Is he right handed?
  • 5 1
 This. The fork comes the other way around stock.
  • 4 0
 @ORTOGONAL555: No, stock the compression is adjusted on the left on Ohlins.
  • 2 0
 @keju: oh yea my bad. I got confused.
  • 18 2
 Electric motor in the BB, only plausible explanation for how he beat the GOAT. - sarcasm!!!!!

My question has been wouldn't something to firm up the rear provide a bigger advantage? especially with the rest of the trail pretty smooth a stiffer rear would allow better pumping the backsides.
  • 10 1
 it seems he already has a remote for the rear too
  • 3 1
 he's already got that.
  • 4 0
 Well presumably the remote on the handlebars activates a similar setting in the shock under that cover.
  • 3 0
 Probably a small motor in the front wheel, the bb is too obvious.
  • 17 1
 I wonder how long it will be before he can just think "lock suspension" and it does it over the 5G network.
  • 12 0
 @jaame: If he locks it at the same spot or split time on every run, he could just set an egg timer at the start gate...
  • 1 0
 @jaame: That won't come until 7G
  • 1 10
flag slimjimtim (Nov 3, 2020 at 15:46) (Below Threshold)
 Honestly, they are stashing motors in front and rear hubs along with bottom brackets for short term boosts. There was a great special on how tough it is to detect cheating in cycling on HBO Real Sports a few years ago. Nothing would surprise me.
  • 1 0
 @schooledrider: It would be beyond surprising if it was Luic though.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: you already can... Just believe. lol
  • 4 0
 @jaame: And let my bike telepathically give me Covid? No thanks. Unless it can be paired with the Tinfoil-hat helmet inserts.
  • 11 1
 He's singing Chemical Bros:
.

"World, the time has come to
World, the time has come to
World, the time has come to
World, my finger is on the button

My finger is on the button
My finger is on the button
(Push the button)

The time has come to
Galvanize"
  • 3 0
 Hey Boy...
Don't hold back.
It's the Eve of Destruction. Beer
  • 6 0
 "Back with anoether of those shock locking beats"
  • 2 0
 @DidNotSendIt: it's a "Dope Coil" designed to Exit Planet Dust...
  • 9 0
 As far as I remember the architecture between both cartridges DH, and Enduro are the same just the length obvs are longer for DH .Also the damper and air carts are swappable left to right. So at the end of the day this isn't any special. Ok Bye. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
  • 3 0
 Yep I’ve got the rxf 36 m.2 and they’re both drop in cartridges. I’m guessing they swapped so he could take off his preferred hand
  • 1 0
 @JediJiJi: yep. could hold on with right hand.
  • 11 3
 If it really does create an advantage, it'll be interesting to see how the UCI addresses "mid-run modifications". Hopefully it won't be an F1 FIA style over reaction by banning such things and allow companies to push for new adaptive suspension tech to bring to the masses.
  • 15 0
 People ran remote lockout switches in previous years.
  • 3 10
flag CoffeeHouseMedia (Nov 3, 2020 at 22:12) (Below Threshold)
 @phops: Yes but read the article again and note the possibility of it being on the fly compression adjustments. That's quite a bit more complex than just a lockout switch. Lockout would mean the fork goes completely stiff, causing potential fatigue from having to absorb impacts with your body instead of the bike and maybe not even lead to an advantage. It seems like this however, may be a way to program completely different fork/shock settings from a button ie LSC, HSC, LSR, HSR, air pressure (think Fox's Live Valve). That could allow mechanics to perfectly set up different suspension types for different parts of the track, giving a sizable advantage over competitors and even more over a simple lockout system. Personally I'd love to see that but the UCI may want to ban it to allow equal competition for teams who can't obtain such equipment
  • 8 0
 @CoffeeHouseMedia: The only fork I've ever owned that completely locked out was a 2014 Fox 34 somethingorother POS. I'm fairly certain that's not a feature on any trail or DH forks in 2020.
  • 1 2
 @spankthewan: I know... true lockouts are virtually impossible on suspension forks, that wasn't my point though. It's the fact that there's probably a lot more adjustments being made with what Bruni is doing than your average trail rider turning up their compression dial on their grip 2 to pedal up a hill
  • 6 0
 @CoffeeHouseMedia: Newer climb swithces are just that, on the fly compression/rebound adjusters (for example CC DB climb switch ramps up compression and rebound a lot to reduce the movement during pedaling) and has existed for years, it just doesn make much sense to put on general consumer DH bikes... But for likes of top world cup racers it could make perfect sense, they might have to tune the behavior of the swich but techically this is no different to custom compression tunes they are already running...
  • 24 0
 Does shifting gear count as a "mid-run modifications"?
  • 7 0
 He says in the interview with Wyn masters that he had a lockout on the fork. I’m a bit more surprised no one else had one considering that final motorway section
  • 7 0
 cap was just coming loose,,,,,,,, and he didnt want to loose that prototype gold cap.....geez guys come on!
  • 3 0
 Maybe it was on a timer (his time down the pedaling section is likely pretty consistent), or it was set as a “lockout now, open up and don’t close again after the first big hit” type compression setting.
  • 6 0
 He stiffened the suspension. Move along.
  • 3 0
 yeah right? making a big thing out of closing compression
  • 5 0
 Turbo levo engaged ... Ah shit Minnaar just knows how to pedal
  • 7 6
 I struggle to see value-add in having adjustable compression activated by taking your hand off the handlebar and putting your run at risk. Now if there was a Raspberry Pi in the head unit that adjusted compression automatically based off of GPS coordinates and suspected pedal-intensive sections, I would be impressed. As is it just seems like a big risk for marginal improvements.
  • 4 0
 so a diy Fox Live Valve system?
  • 29 0
 Marginal indeed, but he won by a small margin so was it worth it?
  • 1 0
 @dubod22: If we're speaking in some antics. I'm not really sure what I meant there but it felt right.
  • 21 0
 @fullendurbro At every moment in a World Cup downhill racer's run they're taking calculated risks with the goal of shaving off time. Yes, Loic took a risk by taking his hand off the bar, but his run was full of risks from top to bottom. In a sense, World Cup racers are professional risk managers.
  • 8 0
 @TEAM-ROBOT: also this was the smoothest part of the trail with the bike going quite fast and thus being fairly stable due to the gyro forces of the wheels. I don't see the high risk everybody is talking about?
  • 1 0
 @dubod22: To play devil's advocate, he could have won by the same margin if he started pedaling there instead of squatting and hitting his button.
  • 2 0
 @Muckal: I agree, whats the difference between this and riders ripping a tear off mid run? I don't see it as that much of a risk for this caliber of riders.
  • 4 0
 @fullendurbro most of the riders were sitting, aero tucking, and resting on the same section. Most riders weren't pedaling there. For instance, the women's winner Marine Cabirou sat down and coasted on the same section. I think that straightaway was deceptively steep and high speed compared to what it looked like from a long lens on video.
  • 2 0
 @TEAM-ROBOT: You're probably right. Could also just be they used it for a strategic recovery before that miserable sprint.
  • 1 0
 @Muckal: I feel like no one remembers Elliot Jackson doing the speed tuck years ago. images.app.goo.gl/QrfbqKDewqLVG1Pj7
  • 1 0
 @chillrider199: that was quite a regular sight when the pros went down the glaciers at Megavalanche and MoH. As I said, nothing too risky for riders of that caliber. I regularly do that on the MTB onroad, you can even pedal quite nicely if needed.
  • 2 0
 The real interesting bit on his bike is the (probably) electronic activated damping switch/ damping mode selection. Ohlins already has something like this for street bikes, so they are not new to this technomogy.
  • 3 0
 Just look up Öhlins CES
  • 2 1
 An in despite of all that technology iheonly win it by what half a tire ,was the wind blowing against or at favor,cause wind can make a huge difference in that section ,will he not win if he hasn’t using that gimmick?,who knows?,Dh is becoming to much PRO,like riders almost wearing licra ,it’s gonna be with out visors on the helmets(wanna see them wearing that ones from time trial ) ,at least go all the way and make the bikes like a time trial one in the wheels -)))),what a brilliant season ,goodbye to Tracy (could never forget that crash in the world’s),and to bruni What a dream smasher (one was Mick and now Greg )c’on Loic,congratulations to all Saúde
  • 3 0
 You mean they are going back to lycra and full skin suits. We've been there before.

www.pinkbike.com/news/stop-the-skinsuit-rule.html
  • 2 0
 @MattyBoyR6: The outfits are getting tighter but I still think there is a big difference between the skin suits of that past and a nice form fitted race kit like most are wearing now. Also have to condsider overall trends in clothing. In years past the skin suit looked extra ridiculous because at the time overall clothing trends were much more loose and baggy. Tighter more fitted clothing is itself becoming more popular now so the tighter fitting kits don't look out of place. No recreational rider would have worm the skin suit. But people will wear the same type of pants and jerseys the pros are wearing now.
  • 1 1
 I have thought for a long time that with a fork super slow rebound would be better to handle mashing on the pedals and yanking on the handle bar, mainly during super tech climbing though, than just compression. Maybe more like the Cane Creek climb switch. Personally I can't stand compression platforms
  • 4 3
 Try it and let us know how it goes, you shouldnt be yanking on the bars when you are pedalling
  • 2 3
 The idea behind compression damping is that by the stopping the flow of oil, you also stop the movement of the suspension. Our suspension has two forms of support; the spring, and compression damping. So if we made a "lockout" rebound, it would essentially be a one-way valve, and if you put any energy into the suspension, it'd just soak it up...until the suspension was completely sucked down and had no movement, in which case you'd have a rigid that would spring back up as soon as you released this theoretical "rebound lockout".

Compression lockouts keep the suspension from moving down in their travel, and can be fine-tuned to only be stiff enough to support the rider and the rider's torque (power) from their body movement and forces on the drivetrain, allowing for "blow off" valves in the event of a hard hit while locked-out.
  • 3 0
 He said in a post-race interview that he had a lockout on his fork (but not his shock), so probably that.
  • 1 0
 They have written his interview quote into the text. It was a valve for sure, race 1 he turned it on and off. Race 2 just on.
  • 3 1
 Sneaky Frenchy! That switch may have cost Minnaar the win as the gap was so close just prior to the motorway. He was down by .2 then up by .2 at the finish.
  • 5 2
 He was adjusting his keyboard so he could write LOUSÃ,not Lousa.
And btw it sounds like "lowzahn".
Thanks.
  • 2 0
 Not really a risk to reach down mid race. Most other riders were sitting down at the same point in the run. Likely we will see it switch activated next year.
  • 3 2
 One crazy guy even pulled a year off strip MID AIR!
  • 2 0
 you would think with the level of tech available, and the carbon box + button already on the frame that they would make the fork remote operated as well!
  • 1 0
 All DH race bikes should get a form of this. Ask any bmx race convert How much the suspension steals from an effort (spoiler - its most of it).

Brunis bike firmed up alot on both ends. He was roosting.
  • 2 0
 He isn't actually adjusting anything. The carbon box etc. is just Loic and his crew f*cking with people heads for gits and shiggles. Eek
  • 2 0
 Looks like he just turned his compression knob to me. But the scientists over at pinkbike feel he pushed a button lol it doesn't look like that to me.
  • 1 0
 Landed off the final stepdown noticeably smoother than anyone else while going pretty deep. Guessing it was to ramp up high speed in the shock.
  • 1 0
 on my stone aged dt swiss exm i have a lockout which i need to push not turn - and the lockout is released automatically on the first hard hit if i forget it...
  • 1 0
 The MRP fork I had on another bike has a magnetic blowoff. WOrked before for XC racing that the Brain.
  • 3 0
 SUPER BRUNI MODE ACTIVATED
  • 3 0
 It’s just a baguette holder
  • 3 0
 He wasn't pressing a button. It was an aero tuck.
  • 2 0
 He's been working with them F1 Mercedes guys. He has that DAS system on his bike.
  • 1 0
 That’s normal. Taking one’s hand off to tweak the fork on a DH track that would kill 98.3% of riders. One way to ticket to messy underwear.
  • 3 0
 Now that you mention, Sick Mick is know for taking both hands off on the final jump and reach behind his back. What was he hiding there?
  • 1 0
 Seems a little dangerous to have weird button on the fork. Why not use a fox with live valve electronic lock out button on handle bar.
  • 1 0
 correct me if I am wrong, but in DH#1 he reached down to adjust on the right sanction. DH#2 he reached down on the LEFT sanction. Riders left and right.
  • 3 3
 The fact downhill bikes even have a pedalling switch should really bring to question of if long pedally sections even belong on a world cup downhill track. More akin to xc lol
  • 3 0
 I believe he turned down the suck knob
  • 2 0
 I'm sure he was asked this before the race and answered it's a hydraulic lockout
  • 1 0
 That's his remote booze button for fanny flask. I'd celebrate at sector 4 too. You'd wait?
  • 3 0
 Full review tomorrow...
  • 1 0
 I'm thinking he sneaked a quick dab hit from that switch cause I think I saw a little smoke... something is going on.
  • 2 0
 Podium Position Selector Switch.
  • 1 0
 Are there rules against using electronics, like Live valve, etc. or is that allowed?
  • 2 0
 In other cycling disciplines, some riders make use of electronically controlled gearing or dropper seatposts. So it is probably not banned, unless it is banned in DH racing only.
  • 1 2
 @vinay:

Found the rulebook.

4.6.003 "No bikes with any kind of automatic transmission, pedal assist motors or engines are
allowed."

Although it's not a gearbox, it's strange that they then allow Di2 / AXS which can shift the front chainring automatically. And with a power meter and app it can probably be programmed to shift the rear automatically. Only really applicable to road bikes though.

I don't see anything banning electronic suspension.
  • 2 0
 @Jacquers: The way it works atm it's not automatic. Even the front, because you have to push the shifter for it to shift. BTW as far as automatic shifting is concerned, most people who actively ride bikes would be absolutely mad about it. Bike is not a car.
BTW there is no way you could translate only power to gear ratio. Not even with cadence. The best metric to translate to gear ratio would actually be speed, but the system still wouldn't work well in non-casual cycling. Not until the system could read your mind.
  • 2 0
 Duh, he was letting the air out to make it lighter and go faster
  • 2 0
 He just did nothing! was just to make everyone wonder what could it be!
  • 1 0
 As a news and information site it seems odd that someone didn't just ask him what it was for instead of speculating???
  • 1 0
 It is the ball compression button. You squeeze it, it hurts, you go faster in order to end the suffering! Simple as that!
  • 1 0
 I seem to remember the honda g cross bikes having a suspension lockout many years ago
  • 1 0
 "a brand committed to ruining Specialized build options while also making them more expensive" - Ohlins
  • 4 3
 Probably a Compression adjuster
  • 2 0
 Thats impossible
  • 2 0
 @jonlees: come on duude its the baguette comp 3000 adjuster
  • 1 0
 Super Bruni button of course.
  • 1 0
 People downvote the truth hahaha I got you back square
  • 1 0
 How many speed-holes would the GOAT have needed to drill to make up 0.1?
  • 1 0
 Why didn't Finn get one of these buttons?
  • 6 0
 Heard he did, but broke them all crashing. Wink

Kid could win (or at least podium alot) if he'd relax and get out if his own way...
  • 1 1
 Would look like was worth at least 10th of a second that was why Greg was so pissed at loosing ?
  • 1 0
 full ride review tommorow?
  • 1 0
 a little CLICK and you win Wink !!!
  • 1 0
 The button inactivated "over the bar"
  • 1 0
 Click and Collect... “Every little helps...”
  • 1 0
 increasing sound volume for "Enter Sandman"
  • 1 0
 Wiping some dirt off his glove
  • 1 0
 Whatever it was it's just another thing to make bikes less affordable.
  • 1 0
 Looks like it could be throttle? Ebike!
  • 2 1
 Speed tuck
  • 2 0
 Yeah, that's what I thought too. Sad to realize that such thoughts will be punished by downvotes. At least we'll go down together.
  • 1 0
 Q-CompAnon
  • 1 0
 His knob
  • 1 1
 NITRO BUTTON
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