What's your ideal front-tire width for general trail riding (that great range of riding between XC racing and doing hot laps at the bike park)?
Remember when it was rare to find a trail bike that’d take anything larger than a 2.1-inch tire between the chainstays? I’m dating myself here, but for the longest time, the average rider had one tire size to choose from—skinny. Sure, there was that brief late `90s Gazzaloddi dalliance, but much of mountain biking’s past was dominated by underwhelming, undernourished-looking tires. That’s all changed, obviously, in the past decade, particularly with the advent of plus-size tires and the not-quite-so-plus 2.6-inch models hitting the scene. What's your choice for general trail riding (you know, not XC racing and not doing laps at the bike park--the huge swath of riding in between those two extremes). And, no, dammit, I'm not talking about fat bikes either.
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2.1 up front and 1.95 in the rear wowza... fully rigid, or the plush Manitou 2 80 mm elastomer fork shred city.,,, Rode Downieville, Tahoe fume trail Moab,, no problemo
And although the redesigned dhr2 is relatively new, the dhf is old enough to be considered a classic. Yet, in 2016, the most popular new gravity tyres are based on its tread pattern.
HR2/DHR all around.
HR2/SS in summer.
Kinda hard to run the "best" combo when it doesn't even exist.
(all of these are on I-25 to I-29 rims)
Also one of my friends that has the small DHF's has the exact rims that I do...
4mm rim width makes a big difference.
I agree Maxxis sizes have been inconsistent but all that I've had in the last year have been spot on - Shorty and dhf 2.3s measure the same and that's just a tad smaller than a 2.35 Schwalbe on the same rims.
I may be wrong, I may have been lucky but all my Maxxis in the last year have been spot on size wise
My opinion is they have it sorted now but you have to be careful what you buy as there are a lot of the old tyres still in the shops and even spec'd on new bikes
The 4mm difference in those rims highlight the inconsistency since my bike and the two other bikes with smaller measured sizes are on I25 rims, with large differences in sizes. Hell even the bike with dual I29's has inconsistent tire sizing, the front DHF's measure to 2.3, but the rear Maxxis Tomahawks (labeled 2.3) are much larger, close to 2.4. Have also seen plenty of Minion SS 2.3 measure out between 2.1 and 2.2, all of those are apparently the "new" maxxis casing,
I have also seen countless maxxis tires come through the shop that are nowhere close to their labeled size, the ones mentioned are just the ones that I have consistent access to and have measured passed the stretch period.
I'm not knocking Maxxis's build quality or overall performance, I am satisfied with my DHFs, they just really need to get a handle on the sizing.
I don't find the wear rate of Schwalbe tyres bad but every pair I've owned has had serious issues with the knobs cracking and tearing very quickly. I've also found them to be a little flimsier (comparing snakeskin to exo casings) but this is probably more to do with trade off between weight and durability (I.e. Schwalbe tyres tend to be a pretty competitive weight). I still like the grip of Schwalbe so run a Magic Mary front and Minion on the rear.
I find the Magic Mary very good for traction, I haven't found it lacking grip in a number of conditions, that said I run a 2.5" super tacky Minion DHF on my hardtail and have no complaints at all about it either.
Scientists don't use the English system.
Factor 3 in base is important - closest to e, which is the optimal base.
At any rate, no base is favored over another. As you would know, being a Ph.D, there is no "natural choice" for the representation of numbers.
Base 12 would have been as easy as 10 to count. And it is even easy to count on hands, as four fingers have twelve knuckles. ( that is the origin of base 60 we use for seconds - Egyptians counted knuckles on one hand with a thumb, and five fingers on other hand, yielding 60.))
PB beating the tire pun comment train before it starts.
Yeah, I just got a new set of tires for a long trave 29er: DHF 2.5f/DHR 2.35r. If they were available, I'd have probably tried something wider. Have been knocking around the idea of 2.8f/2.5r just to see how it rides. The trails up here in the PNW get greasy during the winter, and was wondering how that setup would work. It seems like 2.6 would be a good option. However, those tires are brand new, with limited options.
To compare apples with apples, the Minion DHF EXO etc etc is available in 650B at 2.3 and 2.8. At 870g and 980g respectively. Now that's a great achievement on paper, only 100g difference. However my experience with say the Specialized Butcher in 2.3 Control vs Grid casing (730g vs 930g 26") is that extra 200g made a massive difference to how strong the sidewalls were. So if these new plus size tires are coming out half an inch wider, yet only 100g heavier, somethings gotta give.
Personally I never outride my tires (2.3 Minions) and I have a set of super tacky High Rollers that are like riding in sand, for special occasions (IE gondola). So the thought of wider tires with thinner sidewalls doesn't appeal at all. Why not just ride a 2.5...
Maxis minnion 2.35.
FTW.
I'm also holding out for a WT minion SS.
Running 2.35 dhf/ss, it's the bees knees. When they're dead im going to try a 2.5WT DHF/DHR unless they come out with a WT SS
I'm running them on 30.5mm internal rims, the side knobs touch the ground on the SS because it's so square. However, it absolutely rips still and the rolling resistance is MUCH lower than the 2c HR2 it replaced on back.
I'm thinking the rolling resistance would be much less on a WT SS because it would be rounder. I'm hoping a DHR WT rounds enough to have similar rolling resistance.
Maxxis, for the love. Pleas make a WT SS and stop wasting time on all these other new tires
Agressors were unobtanium when i was tire shopping last time. I want to see how agressive the sideknobs are before i try one.
Amongst my groups of riding buddies, the one who has the most links to videos of armchair engineers conducting "This tire size rolls fastest of this specific type of terrain" usually wins.
One of my douchebag friends always asks for my opinion on which tires he should run at a specific location; whatever my response is he always responds with a link to a video that is 180-degrees from what I suggested.
Moral? Most people on bike forums are that friend—they always know more than you, and base their decision on one subjective ride at a single location, being as far away from the Scientific Method as a Trump loyalist.
Disclaimer: I'm a trail rider and not a spring chicken anymore. I still like riding like my hair is on fire in the rough but I like to keep my tires closer to the ground these days so I can't really say how these babies would fly .
I'll go for 2,4" looks like somewhere in the middle, and also enjoying the same ize for both AM and DH
lesson learned bigger not always best
Gazzis. were pretty good when geometry and brakes and suspension were not so great. It's a weak survey. IF we can have
26ers with tires that equate to same diameter as 29ers with a good rim support from last year, why the hell are we still fussing about a new
rim and now bigger tire to make up for what a 29er has accomplished already? I feel the options are great if we can still get the one we fell in love with a few years ago.
Not everybody changes their platform every season or two.
Cheers
>2.6-inch tires that are starting to gain traction
What is this, the article or the comments? #iseewhatyoudidthere
singletrackworld.com/2016/09/eurobike-trends-2-6-wide-tyres
www.mtb-mag.com/en/a-new-industry-trend-is-coming-27-5-not-quite-plus
I like it!
Get some looks on the trails for sure.
But by 2027 is everyone gonna be riding 39 inch fat bikes or what?
(says the guy who today rode his fat bike on mellow backcountry ski trails)
57-60 is my go to width!
Wider tyres have been proven to roll faster (off road) as well as create more grip and traction.
26*2.50 front = 27"