Winning Bike from Rotorua: Intense Factory Racing M16c Bike Checks

Apr 1, 2017
by AJ Barlas  
Jack Moir s Rotorua iXS Downhill winning extra large Intense M16c.
  Jack Moir's Rotorua iXS Downhill winning Intense M16c.

Today in Rotorua, Jack Moir came out and showed a number of his World Cup competitors that he's been putting in work during the off-season. With the likes of Brosnan, Bruni, Hannah, Jackson, and more here, taking the win was no easy feat. What was a real surprise was his tire choice, with Jack opting for the well-rounded Minion, despite a week worth of wet conditions and a lot of other racers, including his teammate, Dean Lucas, opting for cut spike style treads. It didn't seem to phase Jack though and he won with a couple of seconds to spare. We caught up with Jack and Dean after the race to learn more about their bike setups for the day and how they differ.


Bike Details
• Intense M16c
• Rockshox Boxxer
• Rockshox Vivid shock
• Enve bar/stem
• Enve M90 wheels on Chris King hubs
• SRAM X0 DH drivetrain
• Maxxis tires


Crankworx Rotorua Downhill presented by IXS
Jack Moir
Dean Lucas on the Intense M16C.
Dean Lucas

Jack Moir
Height – 6'1" / 186cm
Weight – 82kg / 181lbs
Riding Style (according to Dean) – "Mud Monkey"


• Frame Size – Extra Large
• Tire choice/size – Front Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 Super Tacky / Rear Minion DHF 2.5 3C Maxx Grip
• Tire pressures – Front 26psi / Rear 28psi

Maxxis Minion DHF front and rear for Jack. He was one of the few riders to run a non-cut spike style of tire here and it didn t seem to stop him winning by a couple of seconds.
Maxxis Minion DHF front and rear for Jack.


Suspension
• Travel – Front 200mm / Rear Set to 215mm
• Pressures/Coil – Front Extra firm spring w/ 2 preload spacers / Rear 450lb spring
• Damper settings – Front: Compression is open / Rebound in the middle
• Rear: Compression is open / rebound a bit slower in the end, faster off the top

Cockpit
• Bar height – 15mm under the crown, 48mm rise bars
• Roll – Rolled a little forward because of the sweep of the bars
• Bar width – 780mm
• Stem length – 55mm

Jack s front end is tall running 15mm of spacers under the crown and a 46mm rise bar.
Jack's front end is tall, running 15mm of spacers under the crown and a 46mm rise bar.

• Saddle position – Little back of center
• Tilt – Pretty neutral for DH

• Brake lever position – Higher/flatter than average but not too aggressive
• Lever throw – Not a lot of throw, bites pretty quickly
• Rotor size – 203mm front and rear
• Chainring/Cranks – 36t ring on 170mm cranks

Jack s brake lever position is higher than Deans and higher than average.
Jack's brake lever position is higher than Deans' and higher than average.

Any customizations or peculiarities?
• Pretty low key. Doesn't change stuff around much.
Dean Lucus
Height – 6'0" / 183cm
Weight – 89kg / 196lbs
Riding Style (according to Jack) – "Flat out and a bit outta control."

• Frame Size – Large
• Tire choice/size – Maxxis Shorty 2.5 Super Tacky front and rear
• Tire pressures – Front 26psi / Rear 29psi

Maxxis Shorty 2.5 on Deans bike for the iXS Downhill here in Rotorua
Maxxis Shorty 2.5 on Deans' bike for the iXS Downhill here in Rotorua

Suspension
• Travel – Front 200mm / Rear Set to 215mm
• Pressures/Coil – 95psi w/ 2 tokens / Rear 450lb spring
• Damper settings – Front: Little faster rebound / Compression 2 clicks out.
• Rear: Compression is 3 clicks out / Mid range for rebound


Cockpit
• Bar height – 10mm under the crown, 26mm rise bars
• Roll – Pretty neutral
• Bar width – 788mm
• Stem length – 50mm

10mm of spacers under the crown for Lucas.
10mm of spacers under the crown for Lucas.


• Saddle position – Little back of center
• Tilt – Pretty neutral for DH

• Brake lever position – Higher/flatter than average but not too aggressive
• Lever throw – Not a lot of throw, bites pretty quickly
• Rotor size – 203mm front and rear
• Chainring/Cranks – 36t ring on 170mm cranks

Tiny bit lower lever position than Jack but still up from neutral.
Tiny bit lower lever position than Jack but still up from neutral.

Any customizations or peculiarities?
• Super particular about the bike being quiet.
• Team mechanic, Chappy, added to the chainstay protection in order to keep it quiet. Normal protector, plus double sided molding tape and velcro.

Jack isn t as particular about noise and runs a velcro adhesive.
Jack isn't as particular about noise and runs a velcro adhesive.
Dean is super into a quiet bike and Chappy has a special combo to keep it really quite. It s more than the stock chainstay protector.
Dean is super particular when it comes to bike noise. Chappy doubles up on the chainstay protection to dampen chainslap.

Dean Lucas large Intense M16c
  Dean Lucas' large Intense M16c

Jack s brake lever position is higher than Deans and higher than average.
Jack's brake lever position is higher than Deans' and higher than average.
Tiny bit lower lever position than Jack but still up from neutral.
Tiny bit lower lever position than Jack but still up from neutral.

Special customization. Team mechanic Chappy trimmed up a fork bumper and strapped it to the cables to keep them tidy and together.
  Special customization. Team mechanic, Chappy, trimmed up a fork bumper and strapped it to the cables to keep them tidy and together.

Red Chris King bling on Jack s bike
Red Chris King bling on Jack's bike
Black King hubs for Lucas.
Black Chris King hubs for Lucas.



MENTIONS: @intensecyclesusa




50 Comments

  • 64 20
 We should go back to 26" wheels.
  • 29 3
 NOW we have a pinkbike thread!
  • 15 37
flag slickwilly1 (Apr 1, 2017 at 6:32) (Below Threshold)
 Huh? Did I miss the part that said they were on 26" wheels.. I say bring on the 29ers !!!
  • 9 2
 Just wait. Like everything else, it "will" come back strong again.
  • 6 5
 I have a 26" Wilson. I'm saving for a 275 wheel though
  • 2 1
 Amen brother!
  • 5 1
 Meet ya there - I never left
  • 1 0
 @slickwilly1: intense has em...
  • 18 1
 Wow a bunch of haters on here. It's funny how the bike that got first has no prototype this or that. You can literally order what they are riding. So glad I own one. Can't wait to see these guys in World Cup this yr. keep it up intense.
  • 2 0
 Has anyone purchased an Intense from this company? www.bikeexchange.com/a/full-suspension-mountain-bikes/intense/ca/irvine/m16c-expert-build/105731360

They have what looks like brand new Expert builds for $4,500 just wondering because it looks like a great spec to price.
  • 11 0
 Nice to see.... funny how there's a whole crop of stems out there that drop your bar to the height of your top crown, when all the high level racers (not just Intense) appear to run their bars pretty high up.
  • 5 0
 Amen! I frigging hate low bars, even have spacers and 30mm rise on my 29er!
  • 1 0
 @pimpin-gimp: ditto this, spacers and 40mm bar! Upright is right.
  • 3 0
 @Twenty6ers4life: yeah i have progressively got a lower cockpit i think through fashion really. And I kinda realised recently a higher cockpit is the one for me
  • 3 0
 @jordanchaos: I think you're right about the "fashion" part. I think about where I could have sped up the last couple years and it's on the steep descents. I can always weigh down the front wheel more and improve my cornering technique, but when it comes to steep tech, having that higher cockpit just has a better mechanical advantage.
  • 1 0
 @chrisrobin: I used to ride with a crazy high cockpit. I think I'm going to move back towards the middle ground. Pair of the Spank 50mm risers should do it
  • 10 0
 @pinkbike how about a toolbox check around the pits? That shot of the mechianics tool box in the background looked pretty nice
  • 2 0
 Maybe we'll see about something like this for Sea Otter?
  • 2 0
 Yes! The gmbn guys did a few of these and they're awesome

Watch "GMBN's Toolbox Tours" on YouTube
GMBN's Toolbox Tours: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXWBBaEdFtbL-hkzxTxzea33QLvpkMTIv
  • 12 2
 It's a intense with enves.. Great!! Where's the f---kn replay???????? Ahhhhhhh
  • 12 0
 No replay because it wasn't broadcast. The weather issues that they had in Rotorua was the cause. Unfortunate.
  • 2 1
 @AJBarlas: That's such a bummer!
  • 5 0
 I've been running those ENVE DH 48mm rise bars on my 16' UZZI for over a year. I'm running a FOX 36, with zero spacers under my Thompson stem. The height is perfect ill never go back to lower bars. This is my first Intense brand bike. I absolutely love it.
  • 1 0
 Stoked to hear that you are riding a 16 Uzzi. A bit off topic here, but how does it rides compared to say a modern 160 bike?
  • 2 0
 @AlexS1: To be honest it climbs great and is a great descender. Its my only bike and I have no regrets. I've always ridden 6"+ travel bikes. Santa Cruz Bullit, 2013 UZZI, 2014 FOES FXR, and now the 16 UZZI. The 16 UZZI is so much better than any of the previous bikes I've owned. No comparison. How it stacks up against a full on enduro bike? I'm not sure. But I'm happy as can be to have a great climbing bike with $190 mm of travel. It's very deceiving because it feel like much less on the climb. I've got all XX1, RF NEXT cranks, E13 Carbon rims with Swiss 240 hubs, ENVE bars HOPE brakes, tubeless wheels etc. about as light as you can build it.
Hope this helps.
  • 1 0
 @Doomsdave: You sir have a really nice ride there. Thank you so much for the feedback.
  • 5 0
 So Jack is running Boxxer Team's instead of World Cup's. Interesting!
  • 12 0
 Yeah, a lot of the top guys do that, the only difference between them is that the team has a coil spring instead of air. Means there's no change in spring rate due to heating
  • 4 1
 @cjkj1999: And a coil feels better to many people (Even I can say the difference, so I can only imagine how big this difference must feel for the top guys like them!)
  • 3 1
 yeah it seems a fair majority of top WC guys that have the option of a coil (i.e rock shox riders) run coil forks as they prefer them.
  • 5 0
 Make coil forks great again
  • 1 0
 @adrennan: when did they go bad?
  • 4 0
 the proliferation of 650b effectively removing 26" from the mix makes me really worry about the future of coil DH forks.

I still ride my 26" DH bike, but I'm sure eventually I'll be forced to get a new bike (similar to what happened with my AM rig), and I'll end up biting the bullet and getting 650B.

Thing is...the 650B switch was at least manageable.

On the other side, I've ridden air DH forks and absolutely hate them.

Please keep coil alive bike industry.....
  • 6 1
 Damn, loving those 48mm rise enve bars.......yea boys!
  • 2 1
 I am curious what the advantages are for a $175 carbon riser bar that weighs the same as a Diety Topsoil for $70. Or an Answer 810 for $59. I'm not trying to troll here, just curiousWink
  • 2 0
 @LOTCP: oh so sexy in the pics lol. That's what they are good for lol.
  • 6 2
 Bike porn
  • 1 0
 Pressures/Coil b>Front Extra firm spring w/ 2 preload spacers/b> / Rear 450lb spring
He's running an "extra firm coil and 2 preload spacers" in Boxxer forks?
  • 3 0
 Gotta love those Chris King hubs! I've got a set in black on my rig!
  • 3 1
 looks light. shame there is no weight
  • 1 0
 Right,
  • 3 1
 Loving these PB Bike Checks. Keep 'em coming....
  • 2 0
 Everything seems to be awesome. Spring system of MB keeps me straight.
  • 8 10
 if woudl be so so cool, if some of top rides just came to one race and put on 26 and got in top5 with put any problems Big Grin

and than every one what 26 why 27,5 is os f** cool and fast Big Grin

p.s. selling my intense m16 Wink
  • 4 2
 M16 = Magic
  • 2 0
 And they're not resting, intense has new bikes being tested.(new linkage design) 29 and 275
  • 2 1
 My OCD won't let it go - it's "faze" not "phase."
  • 1 0
 @Dean
Do you think Shorty 2.5 front, DHF 2.5 rear could have been better?
  • 1 0
 why did they ever make it in red?
  • 1 1
 Is it just me or does the Intense look similar to the V10?

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