WTB's PadLoc Grip System - Interbike 2015

Sep 18, 2015
by Mike Levy  
Interbike 2015


More Comfortable Grips that Can't Slip

With just two or three exceptions, this year's Interbike show hasn't seen much in the way of truly interesting pieces of gear. One of those exceptions was found in the WTB booth: their PadLoc grips and modified handlebar system is certainly worth a closer look. To be honest, I was a pretty skeptical when the PadLoc press release dropped into my inbox a few weeks back. After all, a redesigned grip that can't slip but necessitates modifying your handlebar seems like overkill when you could just tighten up your lock-ons correctly. Cynicism aside, and whether it's needed or not, WTB has some clever thinking going on with their PadLoc system.

PadLoc is really two parts - the grip and a modified handlebar - that have to be used together. The grip uses a traditional lock-on collar at the inboard end much like what's probably on your bike right now, while rubber grip material is laid over a plastic barrel with relief cutouts in it. Nothing that different there, but it's the outboard end where things change. The last outboard inch of the plastic barrel has had half of its diameter cut down at a thirty degree angle, over which WTB has placed a much softer rubber compound than what's usually used for grips. The standard and softer rubber are co-moulded together and the result is a soft and thick last inch to the grip that's much more forgiving than what we're used to seeing. Think of it as a soft pad for the outside edge of your hand and pinky finger.

The grip's novel shape requires that the handlebar be cut to match, so the last inch also needs to be trimmed at a thirty degree angle to match the inner shape of the grip. This not only creates the required room for the grip's soft rubber end, but the interlocking shape means that the grip won't ever be able to rotate on the handlebar, even if the single inboard locking collar hasn't been tightened down properly (please tighten it regardless). Park Tool has just released their $20 USD SGI-7 saw guide that will allow you to easily make the required cut to existing aluminum or carbon handlebars, and word is that more than one component company will be offering PadLoc-specific handlebars in the future.
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The blue and black grip is a 3D printed prototype of WTB's thickest option.


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The PadLoc grip requires the handlebar to have inch-long, thirty degree chamfered ends that interlock with the grips.
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Park's $20 USD saw guide should make it easy to nail the cutting.


WTB Global OEM Sales Manager and Downieville Classic overall champ Jason Moeschler had his Cannondale Habit in the booth, giving me a chance to put some gloveless hands on the PadLoc grips. Having only wrapped my hands around them for a minute or two, and without actually using them on a ride yet, I'm still not convinced that I'd be rushing to cut up my handlebar so I could fit a pair. Having said that, the outer edge of the grip was noticeably softer to my bare hands, which will be a boon to anyone who is prone to sore mitts during a ride. That doesn't describe me, so I'm one skeptic that will have to hold off on final judgement until I get to actually spend some time using the PadLoc system.

WTB will have a number of different PadLoc grip models to choose from, including 28mm and 30mm diameters for average hands, as well as a 33mm size for those with big paws. A few different shapes can be had as well, all of which retail for $34.95 USD. Availability is slated for December.





169 Comments

  • 159 5
 Since when was twisting lock-ons ever a problem?
Ever.
What a complete load of nonsense
  • 37 3
 I get that people (including myself) don't want a metal lock ring on the outboard portion of the grip- it's uncomfortable when riding at the ends of the bars. But, I also don't have a problem with lock on grips that use an inboard lock ring only- no slippage whatsoever. And I can rotate my grips as they wear without needing to change my bar roll at the same time. This seems like such a complete waste of time, resources, and unnecessary "standards" that handlebar companies are also investing in.
  • 20 4
 its called ergon. The new enduro ergon grips do not have metal lock ring on the outside.
  • 22 2
 If it ain't broke...
  • 12 32
flag jozhua130 (Sep 19, 2015 at 6:41) (Below Threshold)
 These grips make you 75.23r2434143433% faster brah!
  • 24 1
 I have yet to have a lock on grip twist on me. Maybe I'm not going big enough.
  • 17 0
 Cheap Specialized grips with a single hex bolt have never slipped on me. This is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
  • 17 1
 Simple traditional grips and strong hairspray..no problems at all..
  • 2 1
 Thought the purpose of the cut-out was for a different angle on the grip itself and not just a mechanism to stop roll. They could have accomplished this without destroying the bar. I suffer from hand fatigue about half the time, and can't figure out why, sometimes it starts 10 min into my ride. Need some ideas.
  • 4 3
 lookup handlebar palsy sounds like radial and ulner nerves
  • 5 0
 I like to rotate my grips at least 180 degrees at some point during their life since i wear my outer palm and thumb...so not keen on being "fixed". Also, my lock on grips never rotate without an allen wrench present ....so I don't get it.
  • 2 1
 @deadtime are you talking about dh or trail? If with your trail bike (which is more common for this problem) how much drop exists between your seat height (during pedaling) and handlebar? Is there drop or it is pretty even?
  • 4 7
 @deadtime- dammit you went and screwed up the complaint department with you silly reading comprehension.

Seriously I can't believe that so many of you read that and got that the cut out was to prevent slipping instead the actual purpose.
  • 3 1
 @TheOriginalTwoTone well since the secondary title of the article is "More Comfortable Grips that Can't Slip", and from other product writeups across the interwebs, preventing slipping is one of the main points of the design.
  • 1 0
 "More Comfortable Grips that Can't Slip"

"This not only creates the required room for the grip's soft rubber end, but the interlocking shape means that the grip won't ever be able to rotate on the handlebar, even if the single inboard locking collar hasn't been tightened down properly (please tighten it regardless)."
...
  • 6 0
 This is the single worst idea in mountain biking right now.

I have recently gone to running wired bmx grips to help with comfort and to allow me to not use gloves. $12/pair, super soft, tacky, and comfy. Stays grippy when wet.
  • 4 3
 @WayneParsons - What about Boost?
  • 9 0
 There doesn't seem to be a choice of ' sack someone this idea is fuck awful'.
  • 2 0
 Sensus Swayze lock-ons for my DH bike and ESI Racers Edge for XC and AM bikes. Both are the best grips I've ever used for their intended application. I've experimented with ODI Troy Lees (previous favorites pre-Sensus) and Renthals (felt good, but the hardware corroded and stripped out within 2 months of installing). Not to mention numerous sets of OEM-spec Trek, Cannondale, and GT grips. With Sensus and ESI out there, it seems sort of futile for companies to try and re-invent the wheel, but again, grips come down to personal preference.
  • 4 0
 @rivercitycycles Boost by itself might be a good idea, if you took all other 'standards' out of the question. It has some merit. This idea behind the wtb grip could be solved by using a regular soft grip without any clamps.
  • 5 0
 purple anodized bar ends from the 90's were even cooler than this.
  • 10 0
 Anybody else wonder how park tools already has a saw guide for this brand new idea?
  • 1 0
 For what it's worth, I have silicone grips (redmonkey) and they don't twist.

Also I practically never place my hand right on the outer end of the grips, mostly near the middle, about half an inch from each end, so this couldn't work for comfort, for me (and there's plenty ergonomic grips on the market for that purpose).
  • 3 0
 what a crazy and redundant idea - one of those "I've got a great idea...but didn't ask anybody else?"

If you need a softer end, just make a grip that has a bar end plug built in with a bolt that tightens an internal wedge - this would avoid a metal end collar like ODI have

Having said that, I've been using ODI Lock-ons since they first arrived on the market, and cannot honestly say the twin locking rings have ever caused me issues. The really neat thing with the Lock-On is you can rotate the grip as it wears!

No way in hell I am cutting my £200 S-Works carbon fibre bars on my MTB to fit some WTB grips!
  • 2 1
 @TheOriginalTwoTone Dude, I was commenting (not very well) that I didn't think it was for slip or rotation. What I thought the cut-out might have been for was a shaped grip that trailed back for the 2 outer fingers, something that might make sense. Didn't mean to trounce the complaint dept.
@ ka-brap. I ride trail, Fuel EX, my seat is slightly above bars (1.5 cm). I have a 5 degree rise on my Renthal Fatbar Lite 740 width. Not sure if I should cut bar down 20mm or get new bar w/ 10mm rise. I also have the 50mm 2 pc stem from Renthal that replaced a 90mm stock stem. (And seat is about 4 cm higher than bar now that I look at it.)
  • 2 6
flag rickaybobbay (Sep 19, 2015 at 13:29) (Below Threshold)
 You do understand if you make something 75.blah percent faster it is actually slower. 175% would make it faster
  • 1 0
 @deadtime I was actually complementing you for being the first person that actually understood that cut preventing slipping was a by product of the primary purpose.
  • 6 0
 I don't think they care about if we like it or not. This is the cheapest marketing there is and the issue with the mtb industry. Just pump out random stupid shit and get media coverage for it. No one's going to go buy this crap, like boost. But it will be sold on bikes unfortunately. Screwed either way for the sake of marketing. Thanks pr and marketing guys. #interbikecirclejerk
  • 8 0
 We've all used similar park saw guides for years. The biggest fail of this is that tool. There is no way to make sure you cut both sides on the same axis. Undoubtedly they won't be perfect, unless precut during production. So one grip will be slightly rolled back v. the other grip. Keep trying and come back next year. Thx
  • 2 1
 @TFreeman Math is hard.
  • 1 5
flag PhattyMatt (Sep 19, 2015 at 17:51) (Below Threshold)
 No offense but you, good sir, are the moron here.
  • 2 0
 I use Raceface Half Nelson grips. Clamps only on the inside and never had a problem with them slipping or twisting.
  • 2 0
 @speed10

good observation about the cutting guide - when cutting a steerer, no matter how skilled the operator, the cut is never 100% parallel to the crown, as hacksaw blades tend to warp whilst under load

On some carbon fibre steerers on road bikes, I've had to use the top plate of the cutting guide as a template to hand finish the steerer with fine grit paper and water, to get it really flat for those bikes that seem to have a "sensitive" headset if the steerer is not finished very flat after cutting
  • 43 0
 So much nope.
  • 2 1
 what if you have carbon bars?
  • 3 1
 Pretty sure no matter your bars, this is a horrible idea. I think it's sketchy to shorten carbon bars to begin with, but cutting a 30 degree angle in them sounds just unsafe. A lot of carbon bars these days are unidirectional and I think cutting them at an angle could weaken their structure and cause them to splinter. IMO
  • 33 0
 So, if I want to change the angle of ny lovely soft grips without changing ny bar roll, do I have to but new bars?
  • 26 0
 and what if you find the perfect angle of your lovely soft grips but want to rotate the handlebar? looks like the season of non adjustable components, first those no-float fixed foot position pedals, now these...
  • 40 0
 New WTB grips; $34.95
Park tool Saw guide; $20
Your face when you realized you cocked up the rotation on your expensive carbon bars; priceless.
  • 11 1
 This design is actually corporate greed. I imagine a 2 piece suit boss yelling at engineers ''design sometging new to sell''. On the other side. I do imagine some people buying this stuff.
  • 6 0
 @unconvinced

would be interested to see how many carbon fibre handlebar manufacturers would authorize (to maintain a valid warranty) the cutting of their bars at an angle to suit this grip system?

Reducing the width of a CF bar by carefully marking, taping (to reduce delamination) and then gingerly cutting using a brand new 32tpi blade with soft pressure and water for lubrication mounted in a cutting guide in a vice on a work bench, and finishing with fine grit paper works well, when you consider the layup of a CF bar

Cutting a 30 degree angle into the end is something I cannot see doing the carbon fibre structure any good whatsoever, when you consider what you will be doing to the structure!
  • 3 0
 That's just a long way of saying what we all feel.
It's a terrible idea.
Why does the poll not have an "it's a terrible idea" I can't answer the poll without it.
  • 2 0
 @randybadger, it is the same as the last option, wording it as you mentioned just has more negativism. Carefull with that.
  • 1 0
 This is true. But there is a big difference between a redundant idea and the radical alteration of your bikes cockpit to implement a bespoke grip. On this occasion I will choose negativity. I don't run expensive bars but I still have no inclination to cut lumps out of the end of them.
  • 39 0
 HOLY SHIT
  • 6 1
 Good thing I was reading this on the can...I had a place to hurl.
  • 4 0
 Hmm, looks like it hurt just a little bit.
  • 4 0
 I've seen pics of bare ended handle bars going through riders legs, but never the whole grip! That must have stung a bit.
  • 2 0
 @toronte-thanks buddy
  • 2 1
 One of the many dangers of riding without bar end plugs.
  • 5 0
 That's exactly what I was thinking. "How can we make handlebars look more like spears?"

Would make group starts a lot more interesting...
  • 8 0
 What the fucking fuck, man.
  • 9 0
 If Mike levy is shocked, you know its bad
  • 5 0
 The thing you won't see is the core of flesh that has gone up the inside of the handlebar
Frown
  • 2 0
 @randybadger: That thought you brought up just made me throw up in my mouth!!! Frown
  • 2 0
 Imagine when you finally get back on your bike and you are wondering why the garage smells a bit funky
  • 25 0
 5th option in the survey... Are you FKN kidding me!!!! Go home WTB. You're drunk.
  • 1 0
 Yeh I was looking for that option, this is a resoundingly dumb idea
  • 19 0
 They should change the name to WTF Padlocks!
  • 17 1
 Amazed this has made it to production
  • 1 0
 Guess with all that's been going on with the market as of lately, they though they could get away with just about anything...
  • 12 1
 if wtb have got so much time and money to waste coming up with crap like this, why don't they donate it to a charity to help unfortunate or poor kids to get on bikes or something else useful
  • 13 0
 good on them then, well done wtb
  • 3 0
 keep donating to charity, fire the idiots that thought this needed to happen, and give their salaries plus all saved production costs to charity too. Everyone wins!
  • 8 0
 What an expensive way to test an idea. If it would be another industry it would have been tested underground, and fail early. Company moves on. As we talk about bicycle industry, I'm really afraid that we will be forced to accept/use yet another stupid solution dubbed "standard", as suddenly other companies will realize that by adopting this they can make profit, and normal stuff gets phased out. I really hope I will be wrong.
  • 1 2
 I always thought they should make a tool kit that fits inside your handle bar and uses your grip as the handle for the wrench. It could lock on one side with a quick disconnect for ease of use and it could hold more tools since you have two grips. I thought that maybe someone stole my idea but now i see only retards work at WTB.
  • 7 0
 I hear they have a fork going into production that requires you to cut headtube.
  • 5 1
 Okay, but if your hex keys are inside your handlebars and you need a hex to remove your grips....
  • 1 0
 Thats why i said made with a quick disconnect
  • 2 1
 WTB has actually tested this grip. i know people using these and they have had them for months. They said that they worked well, and they had their riders use them. They got positive feedback on them, so they continued with them
  • 1 0
 @gummehrider I totally get that and also believe that these people were happy with the end product. What i am questioning is if they did test the whole idea/concept if it makes sense? I mean it does not solve anything really, besides giving you an option that completely ties you to those who are willing to build components for this solution.
  • 1 0
 they made it because one of their riders almost had a career ending crash because his grips rolled on him. and they had them in production for quite some time
  • 9 2
 So I crash and hit my handlebar end... where does the stress go?
I may not even crash but get tight to a tree or rock and clip my bar... where does the stress go.
I can't just say the stress goes to the grip with no effect to my nice carbon handlebars. So for me... nice idea but may have a serious flaw.
  • 10 0
 PadLoc - because tightening your regular grips properly is to easy!
  • 6 0
 I think they could have achieved the same results without cutting so much off the handlebar. A simple notch cut in the end would have worked with a corresponding "peg" inside the grip. I'm not interested in cutting up handlebars like that.

Does anyone really put that much weight on the outside of their grips? I guess if I do I've never noticed.
  • 1 0
 And the really funny part is, your idea makes better design sense, this wedge idea wont actually stop the grip from twisting at all, it will still be able to move small amounts no problem as the wedge simply wont stop that, and if the bolts were loose and the grip twisted lots, again this design wont stop it twisting, it will just make the grip twist straight off the bars, the wedge will act as a cam and shed the grip outwards... So dumb
  • 1 0
 A simple key way or two would do it.
  • 7 1
 WTB is the same company that announced "26" wheels have been taken off the menu..."

Now they follow that up with this...wtf?

A product that makes you mutilate another component to be used "correctly".

Go back to making good tires and saddles...
Preferably in 26" sizes too.
  • 6 0
 PadLoc is meant to be run in conjunction with Boost 148 and 110 front. When you add PadLoc to a modern trail/enduro bike with 148 & 110, you'll get a noticeable amount of additional stiffness, somewhere around .0025%, which means a lot in a race.
  • 9 1
 Will they also be offering PadLoc tires that require a 30° cutoff of the rims' sidewalls?
  • 5 0
 @mikelevy and Pinkbike as a whole. Please stop worrying so much about your bloody sponsors and call a spade a spade. This is a laughable idea for a problem that doesn't exist. You know it, I know it, Justin fecking Bieber knows it. Don't make the biggest point of your article, say 'Cynicism aside' and remember you need keep the big guys happy. You are supposed to be an independent website and respected authority in mountain biking. We know SRAM just about own your balls now (it's inescapable when they can now do no wrong, and your justified reservations about a product are in fine print at the bottom of a long praising article) but please don't become just an advertising site.
I enjoy your journalism and respect the knowledge you have. I am aware how the world works and nothing is free. Please just remember what we're all really here for.
  • 4 1
 @thestigmk1 - I think you need to re-read this article. First, it's not a review. It's a simple tradeshow piece that's mean to just show you what's new at Interbike, just like the other 30ish Interbike articles that have gone up this week. Second, I made my thoughts on the PadLoc grip pretty clear even though it's not a review. I obviously don't think it's a great idea, but I haven't tried it on a bike yet so I'm not going to say it's total shit even if I suspect that it is - that wouldn't be fair. Would you rather we just not show things because you think they're dumb? The PadLoc system sure looks silly, but it's also new so I'm going to show it.

"...a redesigned grip that can't slip but necessitates modifying your handlebar seems like overkill when you could just tighten up your lock-ons correctly."

"I'm still not convinced that I'd be rushing to cut up my handlebar so I could fit a pair."

" so I'm one skeptic that will have to hold off on final judgement until I get to actually spend some time using the PadLoc system. "

Do those above quotes read like an advertisement? Other websites wouldn't say anything like those quotes in a tradeshow article. Other websites wouldn't have put up a poll who's outcome is going to be pretty obvious. Other websites actually ran the WTB press release on the grips - we didn't even do that.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy You make valid points and I stand corrected on this occasion. I do often get the feeling with pinkbike reviews/ articles now (more so than 6 years ago when I joined) that the agenda is not to critique the product. I guess that this is just my anxiety from a growing feeling showing through rather than this one article and for that I apologise. Like I said, I enjoy your journalism and you know much more about bikes and the industry than I ever will. Please feel free to utterly blast the tat gets pushed on us if it's fair to do so, and don't be afraid of SRAM (used as an example) being pissed because you genuinely hated one of their products. We want your critique so we make informed choices. Please don't ever dilute your role as (you well pointed out) it's a unique one in a network of websites that treat press releases as all the info a customer needs.
  • 5 0
 All I can say is wow, I guess we hit a sensitive spot with PB readers. I have not seen so many negative comments since Shimano announced XTR Di2 (which is awesome by the way).

I'd like to address couples items that stuck out for me.

1) Don't knock it until you try it - You might actually like broccoli if you take a bite. I find it troubling that so many commenters will voice such strong opinions without ever having touched the product.

2) Let me dispel the assertion that WTB is some corporate monster that is pushing our product on the unsuspecting masses through marketing and trickery. WTB is a tiny company that has been privately owned for over 30 years. If you could see our "luxurious" corporate headquarters you would be embarrassed by your comments. Primarily, we do what we do because we love to ride bikes, and make products that we want to use on our own bikes.

3) There actually IS a problem that we are addressing with this product, though not everyone has experienced it. The guy who came up with the idea in the first place, is one of the most talented riders I've ever known. He had a major crash while pre-riding an EWS event last year, because his dual-clamp grip slipped. That same guy has been on the podium at Downieville more than any other racer in the world.

4) Bar makers have no issue with the 30° cut. Truvative is already making the Jerome Clemenz carbon bar with the miter. That is the bar that we displayed at the recent EB and IB trade shows.

5) We're not forcing anyone to change what they have. But please, try to keep an open mind. It actually might work better than what you like now.

Chris Feucht
WTB Product Development
  • 8 0
 Won't Trash my Bars. Thanks.
  • 4 0
 Nobody is gonna buy this. I do agree that the outboard clamp is a pain though. Hence why my favorite grip is pro tharsis. They dont twist, have an inner flat clamp, and you can run your hands at the bar ends with no clamp interference. Only issue is if you live in a rocky place the grip ends can get chewed up pretty fast.
  • 2 0
 I wonder if Shimano has a patent on that atheton grip. I love mine but I have never seen any other grip with integrated bolt/expander at end.
  • 1 0
 there are plenty of nerds who will sop this up like biscuits and gravy.
  • 7 0
 Useless, i Never had a problem with lockon grips...
  • 5 0
 wow. the pb opinion poll is about a skewed as the cut on those bars. there is no way im cutting my carbon bars to put a lock on grip that i have never had problems with.
  • 3 0
 Chaps, a bit of decorum please. What can possibly go wrong with locking yourself into a product that will turn your handlebar end into spear tips if you can't replenish the grips on a regular basis. Fair play to whoever dreamed these up and managed to get them into production. I can't wait to see the next big idea - which will no doubt involve super glueing helmets on to heads to reduce the weight of the chinstrap.
  • 4 1
 So.. I have actually used these grips so I can actually say how they work (for me). I've been lucky enough to be one of the early testers. I cut a set of carbon bars and mounted the grips up the night before racing the downieville Classic. I had a broken pinky and figured the squishy part at the end would help. It did help a ton. I had tried a bunch of other options before getting my hands on these and none worked as well. I sort of thought that after my pinky healed I'd go back to regular grips but you know what happened instead? I tried my old grips again for one ride and then promptly begged for more of the padlocks. I cut an aluminum bar with a hacksaw freehand and finished it with a file. Took ten minutes and turned out great. Not at all hard if you know how to use a hacksaw. Better fit actually than the ones I cut with the guide. I now have these grips on two of my bikes. I'm not usually a thick grip person but it's funny I'd rather ride these thick grips than my old thin ones. I ride very much toward the edge of the bar. So much so that my outer hand kinda over hangs the bar. Doesn't matter how wide my bar is I will always subconsciously creep out there. These are far more comfy for me. For me these grips are about enhanced feel. It's cool that they resist rotation too but that's a by product in my mind.
I know the people who are directly responsible for making these grips happen. They are good people who ride and only make things they believe in. Period. Someone mentioned suits making marketing desicions. I'd be surprised if anyone who was involved in this product has worn a suit in the last year ( or even owns one!).
It seems a bit weird to me that there is so much negativity to having another option out there. No one is forcing any one to buy or use this system. You might try them someday and love them. You might try them and say "nah I'll stick to my old go to's". Isn't it kinda cool that you have that option though? Isn't it kinda cool that some people who ride bikes took a bunch of time energy and money to give you that option?
Grips and bars are a huge personal preference thing. Like everything on the bike I guess. Totally get it if you ride them and say no. Or even just feel them in person and say no.
What's crazy to me is that I don't think a single person who wrote comments above has even tried these on a ride.
Oh yeah these grips are totally compatible with 26" wheels and 20mm thru axles and V-brakes and 1" diameter bar clamps and tubes and your favorite drivetrain and riding area.
Cheers!
Nathan Riddle
  • 7 0
 NOPE.
  • 6 1
 Prefect job at identifying a nonexistent problem abd then selling people a "solution".
  • 4 0
 These grips were a joke to see if there was any 'stupid' left in the MTB community. Its OK, we passed- 50 comments so far and not one positive.
  • 2 0
 How will you line up the grips with the same exact angle? what if I decided to twist my bar a bit further back to best fit when leaning back? Then I won't be able to enjoy the last inch me my grip excellent product! IMO, stick to making nice saddles
  • 6 0
 LISTEN PEOPLE, WE NEED GRIPS SHAPED LIKE DILDOS. AND WE WANT THEM NOW!
  • 1 0
 Dafuq?
  • 1 0
 haha
  • 2 0
 The idea is to make me buy something I did not know I needed. To fill the hole in my biking soul. Technically, I need to spend more time talking about mountain bike shit.........said no one ever.
Basically, another wiz bang idea that may or may create sales. Just call them "enduro grips" and market them to mountain bikers too. Sorry, my sarcasm lever broke. I could not get a grip.
  • 2 0
 Last significant product produced by wtb came out it 2000... All the rest is garbage. And the stuff they still make and sell, like the saddles, were designed before 2000. Don't know what happened, they used to be the best components maker at the beginning, probably different owners/people
  • 2 0
 Mark Slate:
I wear standard grips out at the ends. Having that soft edge to lean on will keep my hands more comfortable. Resistance to rotation by lighter clamp tension on carbon bars is an advantage. As for cutting bars to try; (1) an inexact angle match will work, and (2) cutting expensive carbon bars should not be done until you are convinced that the PadLoc System is to your liking. If you are convinced that what you have works well enough, stay with it. Don't discount what you have not tried.
  • 6 0
 not a chance in hell lol
  • 3 0
 i hope WTB will read all of the comments above Smile in my opinion this is useful idea only on Mars they might not be that advanced in bikes industry Smile
  • 3 2
 I like really thin grips but I don't like how harsh the bike feels with them. I like this idea as I can have the direct feel with thin grips but still have the cushioning of a fatter one. I know what angle I like my bars at so that's not an issue, I'm tempted to get a pair to try at some point
  • 4 0
 What a joke this product. Cut the bars to fit a grip is so insane and stupid... Shame they could have done anything else
  • 1 0
 I saw they offered 33mm grips, and i do appreciate that as well as not having a locking outboard collar. I also appreciate a softer outter grip as thats where i have the most pressure while climbing. I was intrigued, and was also sort of ok with cutting my bars (they're alu) as i could see this being as comfortable as a carbon bar.

Then i saw the $35 price tag for grips. You fcking kidding me? Knowing myself, id cut one end 2 degrees off and have a sore wrist on one side and it'd defeat the purpose.
  • 4 0
 New ODI troy lee grips with the flares are so sick. Sorry Wtb, my grips don't slip and I'm not cutting my bars.
  • 1 0
 No way that I will cut my Enve handlebar for make it comfortable for a grip...I has been using lock on type grips by almost 20 years and never had a slippery because the grip, but maybe because me not tightening enough yes, like 3 times maximum. So for me this grip is a big PASS.
  • 5 0
 Not for me thanks
  • 3 0
 They look like screwdrivers.... i dont want to drive arround with tools on my handles...
  • 4 2
 If you guys want pimping grips. Buy Renthal Kevlar dual compound half waffle for ATV. They are amazing Push on grips 4 life blaaazzee it up 420 yo
  • 1 0
 i wouldn't run my grips without 2 lock on's, especially DH !!
  • 5 1
 @WTB why don't you spend your time making a tire that works???
  • 3 0
 Vigi, nuff said
  • 2 0
 Vigi/Trail Boss Combo
  • 3 0
 Hah!!! 1187 g for a tire that couldn't hold a candle to the minion dhf?!? They must be really cheap. . .
  • 2 0
 @unrooted I'm all for Maxxis, ran them for years, but I prefer a Vigilante to a Minion. Different strokes I guess.
  • 3 0
 Bars and grips are so 19th century. What mountain bikes need is a steering wheel.
  • 3 0
 A way to make it so you must keep rebuying the same grips over and over. Genius marketing.
  • 1 0
 Ι'm so used to feeling the metal lock on rings with the end of my palms that I can't ride with single (inner) colar. Weird I know, but I use it as a point of reference so I know my hands are in the right place.
  • 3 0
 That's kind of a tricky cut to make, even with the jig! Hello wonky grips!
  • 8 0
 There is no way in hell anyone who cuts their own bars is gonna get them lined up properly. Worst bike idea I've seen in aaaages. And there have been a lot of really bad ones recently...
  • 3 0
 Mountain biking eh? Amazing what it's come to....
  • 3 0
 nah, nope, no. but then, some people like lefties -_-
  • 4 1
 Saw guide? Surely you could just eyeball it!
  • 6 1
 Even with a guide or eyeballed, you could do one, but lining up both could be a pain too - so you could get through a couple if pairs of 100 quid bars - but sure the grips would be worth it.... Sigh. My answer to this my hands hurt issue is - HARDEN THE FUCK UP
  • 3 0
 in this case it should be WTF's PadLoc Grip System...
  • 1 0
 These bars make great stabbing weapons when you dont have the grips on. And if you want to replace with different grips? You have to buy a new bar.
  • 1 0
 The soft part of the grip is going to wear out faster also, that way you can buy twice as many grips in the same amount of time.
  • 1 0
 "The PadLoc grip requires the handlebar to have inch-long, thirty degree chamfered ends that interlock with the grips."
PASS!!!
  • 2 0
 Am I the only one who rotates grips to get a second life? Stop making non axi symmetric grips.
  • 1 0
 I'm with you
  • 3 0
 Eurobike>Interbike
  • 2 0
 I'm more interested in a handlebar that can extend in length.
  • 1 0
 All the engineering wizards at wtb, and their best solution for recovering 5mm of unused grip is to cut the bar. Wow
  • 1 0
 Pinkbike, forgot to add one more answer option to the pool:

"It is a stupid idea! why would anybody come up with it?"
  • 1 0
 Really believed this was a joke. So, it's not a joke? Or they are just really running with it?
  • 2 0
 Great tires but this padlock grip is a joke.....
  • 2 0
 Danny hart has BMX grips with Zip ties... These grips are bloody stupid.
  • 1 0
 I've actually had pain on the last bone in my hand from bars I thought had too much up-sweep. Could have helped there
  • 2 0
 Nothing I would ever use.
  • 2 0
 ESI. Lighter, cheaper and durable. Choose three from three.
  • 1 0
 my non lock on grips never rotated... if you use enough aqua net nothing moves...
  • 1 0
 Wide bars ans Sensus grips. Never changing. I love the combo
  • 1 0
 the poll needs a 'none of the above' option...
  • 1 0
 I just can't gt a grip on this...
  • 1 0
 Cutting your bars for a set of grips....... HAHAHAHA
  • 1 1
 nice looking grips WTB. I like the lock ring free end.
  • 1 0
 What a stupid idea.
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