Following their
video yesterday, the Mk2 YT Jeffsy has been revealed. We've had some time on the new bike and will post a First Ride soon, but for now, here are all the details to pore over. As you might have guessed from the video, it's not a complete overhaul, more a refinement of a massively popular bike.
The 29-inch version of the bike gets given another 10mm of travel to boost it up to 150mm for the CF Pro Race version while the 27.5-inch version remains at the same level. These numbers are no strangers to the EWS so this looks to be a more aggressive trail bike than the original. It does have us thinking there's a big gap between at the lower end of YT's range now, could something fill the short travel void in the future?
Suspension
YT Jeffsy Intended use: Trail
Travel: 29" 150/150mm, or 140/140mm // 27.5" 160/160mm, or 150/150mm
Suspension: Virtual Four Link
Wheel size: 29" or 27.5"
Frame construction: Carbon or aluminum
Sizes: S, M, L, XL, XXL
Pricing: $2,299.00 - $5,699.00 USD
yt-industries.com Across both wheel sizes, YT have adjusted the kinematics and refined their V4L (Virtual Four Link) suspension system. They say their aim was to improve pedalling, so anti-squat has been increased in tandem with a steeper seat angle. The suspension curve has been flattened, and the bikes now have metric shocks.
| For an even better riding experience, we have refined our award-winning V4L suspension technology. JEFFSY is very sensitive off the top, with good mid-stroke support and plenty of end-stroke progressivity and an overall poppy character, which gives you a feeling of security when taking on rough terrain and big jumps. The generous amount of anti-squat prevents unwanted suspension movement – the result is outstanding climbing efficiency with neutral suspension behavior.—YT Industries |
Geometry and SizingIn terms of geometry, it's a case of death by a thousand papercuts as revisions have been made all over to improve the bike across both wheel sizes. It seems like the 27.5 inch bike has been tweaked while the 29-inch version has some more serious overhauls. We've already mentioned the seat angle that has been steepened but both bikes also get longer reaches, slacker head angles and lower seat tubes. There's an integrated flip chip to mess with the bike’s geometry a bit—but of likely most will run it in the low position to slacken the head angle and lower the BB for fast and rough terrain. The standover has been lowered and a chunkier headtube is said to increase stiffness.
The Jeffsy gets an added XXL size for this edition. The XL and XXL bikes will have longer chainstays than the rest of the range to keep their balance.
BuildThere are some other changes to note here as well. The Jeffsy gets the same single-sided access bearing system as
the new Tues, and there has also been a refit of the cable clamps and cable plugs. The frame will be protected by an integrated plate on the downtube and you should get less wear as there are fewer mud pockets. Finally there's a
Fidlock magnetic bottle holder that gives you an extra 100ml of hydration on the frame over the old model.
YT offers four spec levels of Jeffsy in each wheel size, three carbon (CF Pro Race, CF Pro, CF Comp) and one aluminium (Base). The CF Pro Race versions of the bikes have the extra 10mm of travel and the highest spec levels. The only aluminium model of each bike is the Base level. As announced earlier this week, Base level spec YTs offer an entry point into the YT line with a functional and easy to tune spec on an alloy frame.
Full specs herePinkbike's David Arthur was at the YT launch and has a First Ride coming soon.
Every email or phone number you find on the YT website goes to one guy's phone and while he's a nice guy and can be helpful, he's completely overwhelmed. YT needs to double or triple down on their customer support staff, badly. I think the product quality is acceptable but with no brick and mortar to stand behind their products, customer support MUST be there.
Just a word of caution to potential buyers...
Whatever. Frame only is over $3K. $5,600 for the base build. And people bitch about YT availability. Until they increase production, it will always be in short supply due to the overwhelming value.
Sam Hill raced a one of the WC on a NukeProof single crown last year and got like 7th. ????
To each thier own for sure, but its why many expect bottle cage mounts on anything but a DH bike.
To me it looks like the fox 36 equiped 160mm pro race jeffsy 27.5 is a good replacement of the original capra (once fork bumped up to 170)
I’m more tempted by a 140mm 29er though - the original was such a short bike with a tall seat tube. Looks like YT is now seriously on fire.
But....
Anyone else think it looks like a propaine hugene?!?!?
Agreed!
I was pleasantly surprised by the way they handled the entire situation. So much so that I'm looking at a Jeffsey/Capra for a trail bike.
I did quick math and checked the prices of top carbon 29ers with top suspension and carbon rims to understand what’s the ratio vs. price of Jeffsy 29 ProRace in Czech Republic / Europe. Of course this is just huge simplification as there are many more aspects which I didn’t reflect. Also specifications vary in many cases. But it’s still hard to believe that you can get two pieces of YT or one from other brands for the same price…
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Santa Cruz HIGHTOWER LT CC XTR 51%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Ibis RipMo XX1 EAGLE 54%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Yetti SB 130 XX1 47%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Trek Fuel EX 9.9 29 63%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper 56%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Scott Genius 900 Ultimate 49%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Giant TRANCE ADVANCED PRO 29 0 70%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Evil Offering X01 66%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Propain Hugene Highend 82%
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Canyon SPECTRAL CFR 9.0 SL 98%
Well done YT!!! Can’t wait for full review of Jeffsy!
1. 6500 dollar is 5650 (YT is 5300)euro, but when you consider new 12 speed xtr VS old 11 speed xtr.
2. Are you sure about the 1000 dollar less? I don't think so
3. It isn't 98% any way
YT Jeffsy 29 Pro Race / Cube Stereo 150 TM 29 120% (£4000 vs £4800)
YT Jeffsy 27 Pro Race / Cube Stereo 140 TM 275 137% (£3500 vs £4800).
Both come with fox Grip2 36 factory, DPX2 factory, transfer factory dropper, 1600-1700g alloy wheelset, GX eagle, carbon cranks/handlebar, code R brakes.
And you can buy them from a shop. Geometry on the 140 27.5 is nearly identical to the Canyon Spectral.
Must be the huge buying power they have, there's no other bikes with the same spec for the price.
I'm tempted by the Jeffsy but it's £1300 more than the 140 and that's before a fairly easy to get 10% discount which makes the stereo 140 £3150.
is it possible to sell cube frame? is it possible to get more than 350EUROs with the ebay?
There's no service advantage going through the LBS when the LBS never stocks high end components and aren't qualified to handle warranty claims on suspension. You're going to have to handle that through dirtlabs or fox/rockshox.
again, what good is buying from the LBS and paying a %60 markup when it doesnt get you back on your bike any faster???
Disappointed they didn't spec 36 Performance Elite GRIP2 on the CF Pro though.
“Frame construction: Carbon or aluminum“
I'm a yeti guy right now, but why the hell are they $8000+? same specs for the most part, but it's like the frame is $5500 bucks when you get the upper end bike, just unrealistic... I may go this route next... $5k for a bike with great specs is fair enough deal to me and they look awesome.
I like the jeffsy geo, but wish the head tube was a bit slacker than 66.5 or 66... The capra is great but man that's a lot of travel. listen to me bitch. YT, I like the bikes a lot.
sheesh, X2 shock, XTR shifting, Carbon rims, fox 36 kashima everything, carbon cranks, renthal cockpit... crazy specs really good.
us.yt-industries.com/shopware.php?sViewport=detail&sArticle=2092&sCategory=260
$5500 bucks... Point is, I could buy this complete build AND a yeti $3800 SB150 frame for what Yeti is selling their top of the line bike for.... Doesn't add up.
Don't get me wrong, I love my SB6, but after blowing my frame and no support from them, I am going this route next.
sheesh, I'll take YT and 5 sets of XTR Groups for the future. All I'm saying is a Yeti at $9500, can't tell me the frame is $3800 and the group set is almost worth almost $6000.
The top of the range bike costs 5300€, which is 300€ less than the orbea Rallon I just ordered from my local dealer (albeit I am in Spain) with custom specs and color (similar build kit than the Jeffsy but with a Fox X2 out back). Leaving out the boutique brands with silly price tags you can get a solid bike from your bike shop now a days for a price that s not too far from the direct brands...
Or you just changed the shox?
1. Why not have 2, maybe 3 paint schemes at most, that way one doesn't find that the model spec they want is out of stock
2. Why have you chosen to not upgrade the Aluminum model. You're missing out on a segment of riders who would buy the new model in aluminum, but will now look elsewhere, as you're selling a frame whose geometry is now stale.
Guide RSC vs. Guide RS
Race Face Next R carbon cranks vs. SRAM GX Eagle
Next R handlebar vs turbine bar
Suspension is preference but I prefer fox..
Fox transfer is better than the e13 dropper Imo. Have heard a number of complains about the e13 dropper.
2018 jeffsy was over half a pound lighter too.
Until then i'm keeping the money, last year alu frame version with entry NX is not good enough. You should learn from how quick you sold out "limited" high spec ALU a month or two ago....
If you look at the GX Eagle (Pro) build and compare to the Ripmo GX (for a few hundred $ more) you get Fox 36, DPX2, wider wheels and tires, DW-link, and dealer support. Now that initial hype for the Ripmo has cooled off a bit, you can find some discounts for it if you shop around.
This is great bike, but Ripmo still for the win.
vs. $4299 GX Jeffsy CF Pro
Again Ripmo IMO better components: Fox36, DPX2, wide rims, Maxxis tires, DW-link and dealer support for $500 more.
I hear you though. Canadian Expat now in the USA - being a consumer is just easier here. You just need Trump to get along better with Trudeau, and fix the weak CAD.
I would also love to see what the Alu version looks like.
BoTY perhaps?
www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/article/yt-jeffsy-29-cf-trail-bike-of-the-year-2018-52139
So that's 3 days from debut/purchase.
Stock so far, swapping stuff soon.
Other minor grip on Fezzari is their design are still on the ugly side - random mix of curves, lines and sharp edges. Reminds of of the previous generation Pivots which IMO were pretty ugly.
My apologies if it came off harsh, I really like all the changes and would probably purchase a new CF if I could get a hold of one in my size.
I think it looks sweet!
Lol, na.