YT Introduces New Spec Levels, Colours & Sizes in 2019 Range

Jan 8, 2019
by James Smurthwaite  

YT has announced its 2019 range of bikes today and it includes a whole heap of tweaks.

Alongside the usual colour and spec updates, the Base level has been introduced as an "entry into the YT world". It's now the cheapest spec on offer for the Tues and Capra and the bikes come with a functional and easy to set up spec on an aluminium chassis. Despite the success of the Black Friday model Capra last year, there are no high spec aluminium models here so those who missed out in November will have to keep waiting.

Interestingly there are also no new updates on the Jeffsy and it's largely registering as out of stock online. Could we be looking at a bigger update or is there something else in the pipeline from YT?

Finally, there are some price rises here, especially in the US due to currency fluctuations, but some spec changes mean that the value of the bikes remains high for the German brand. YT said: "Despite varying purchasing prices (also due to slightly different spec on some models) we managed to keep the € prices steady. If you look in detail the € prices only increased slightly for the Pro Race models and even dropped significantly for the Pro models, while most others stay the same.$ prices changed quite a bit due to exchange rates."

2018 Capra prices
2019 Capra prices

The full release is below.



PRESS RELEASE: YT Industries

New year, new bikes, new look

2019 brings new specs and bling new colours for the Capra, Tues and Dirt Love. Updated builds and highly adjustable components keep the range interesting and offer a wide variety of bikes from entry-level shred machines to most exclusive premium race rockets. Every model comes in two paint jobs varying from basic colours like black and white to some more vibrant colours like orange, red or deep blue. New to the range is the introduction of the long frame size for the Dirt Love – good news for taller riders who like to play with dirt. To sum it up: there is something here for every riding style and every budget in the new YT bike range 2019.

Capra: the greedy goat

The Capra is endlessly greedy: it’s greedy for the best trails, the most demanding downhills but more than anything, it wants to satisfy everyone’s craving for a potent enduro bike. It is the ideal bike for racking up the miles on the trail, impressing bystanders in the bike park or hunting for seconds in a race. Downhill, this goat runs like a wolf was after it. It delivers just the right combination of trail bike agility and downhill bike stability. Forest loam, steep and rocky descents, or flowy jump trails; this goat will eat anything. The Capra 27 is available in five sizes from S to XXL, and the CAPRA 29 comes in four sizes from M to XXL.

Capra 29 CF Pro Race in Deep Petrol / Silver

The Capra CF Pro Race models stand for uncompromising performance and top-notch specs. With Kashima coated FOX Float Factory suspension, SRAM Code RSC brakes, Renthal carbon cockpit, a wide range cassette from e*thirteen and LG1 r carbon wheels the CF Pro Race models inspire maximum performance. Meanwhile, the Capra CF Pro confidently holds its own line with RockShox suspension, SRAM drivetrain, Eagle cassette, and Code RS brakes. Robust e*thirteen LG1+ wheels and a wide Race Face Turbine R35 handlebar complete the Capra CF Pro build.
Capra 29 CF Pro in Candy Red / White
Capra 29 CF Pro in Magnesium White / Black Magic

Also on the aluminium bikes, customers can choose between Fox or RockShox suspension. The Capra AL Comp comes with a FOX suspension, e*thirteen cassette and SRAM Code RS brakes, while setting up and handling the Capra AL Base is child’s play even for beginners, thanks to components that are particularly easy to use.

Tues: Style meets confidence

Like no other bike, the Tues embodies what YT is all about: Gravity. YT developed it further in close cooperation with the YT Mob and incorporated feedback from the toughest race tracks around the world. The result is a ruthless machine with racing DNA, which combines massive potential for speed with maximum control to satisfy the most demanding of racers. With two World Cup overall titles on its resume, the Tues is bursting with self-confidence. Just how capable it is, YT’s team riders have once again proven at the 2018 edition of Rampage. This is where the Tues takes its freeride attitude and style factor from. Four builds of the Tues 27 are available in five sizes from S to XXL.
Tues CF Pro Race in Deep Petrol / Silver
Tues CF Pro Race in Magnesium White / Black Magic

The Tues 27 CF Pro Race is YT’s downhill flagship sporting Kashima coated FOX Float Factory components. E*thirteen’s cassette, SRAM’s X01 DH 7-speed derailleur and TRP‘s G-Spec DH brakes deliver World Cup vibes while the carbon Renthal cockpit, carbon wheels and cranks from e*thirteen keep the weight down and the reliability high – just as you would expect from a purebred racing machine.

Tues 27 CF Pro in Matte Black / Glossy Black / Silver

On the Tues 27 CF Pro model, the FOX Performance Elite suspension provides adjustable low-speed compression and rebound damping to make sure it can be adapted to any terrain and riding situation. SRAM’s GX DH derailleur, e*thirteen’s premium LG1+ DH crank, and TRP’s Quadiem brakes as well as the lightweight yet robust LG1+ wheels from e*thirteen round off the Tues 27 CF Pro build in style.

Tues AL in Coal Grey / Fallout Yellow

Those who prefer aluminum can choose between the TUES AL and the TUES 27 AL Base. Both bikes come equipped with excellent components to ensure the best entry into the downhill business and to keep experienced riders interested as well. On the TUES AL the FOX 40 Float Performance Elite fork and Fox VAN Performance shock offer high performance and great reliability, while the RockShox suspension and solid components on the TUES 27 AL Base are easy to set up.


Dirt Love: loves dirt


It all started with the Dirt Love. YT’s roots can be found in dirt jumping, which is why a lot of passion and development-work flows into the Dirt Love. It’s YT’s lean, mean, dirt- and street-machine that combines agility, ruggedness, and lightweight. 2019 it still meets all requirements a solid dirt bike needs to meet today. For 2019 the Dirt Love is sporting a rad new paint job and comes in a second, longer frame size option.

Dirt Love in Black / Silver

All components fit perfect for the dirt category. The Pike DJ 26 is the perfect fork for all this progression, light and stiff. The custom-tuned Charger damper shines on any type of jump, and the specific Solo Air spring offers significant end-stroke ramp-up for buttery smooth landings. The lightweight SRAM Level TL brakes are built on the same technology that is used in downhill and provide dependable power and control. The super strong DT Swiss 533D wheels will let you get away with one or two over-rotated tricks and dirty landings.

Further details on the new bike range 2019 can be found on www.yt-industries.com.


206 Comments

  • + 164
 Not one to usually complain but I say steer clear of @YTIndustries especially USA. I broke my head tube on a smooth and small jump, a problem I've seen on quite a few YT's in person. After weeks of no responses to calls and emails and 4 1/2 months I finally got a replacement front triangle that they wanted to charge as a crash replacement. My brother's took 7 months and it broke in the same place less than a week after. @ytindustries had no remorse and acted like they were doing us a favor, unfortunately we are both bike park builders and had no DH bikes for the entirety of the summer dig season.


Terrible USA customer service. Once they moved from Reno to Socal things went downhill big time.
  • + 62
 @necody front triangle was probably out of stock
  • + 10
 Knock on wood I have not had these issues but I tend to agree they have lost their way a bit in the last 2 years. Even the component choices, e13 cassettes, SDG stuff, etc. And the prices in the US are really not that great all things considered.
  • + 27
 My buddy just went through a similar situation. CF Jeffsey down tube began to shear apart above the shock mount. When he tried to warranty, they were straight-up claiming misuse and wanted to charge him crash replacement on a one-year old frame. Another friend of his is a sponsored YT rider, and needed to step in to pull some strings... Otherwise would have been "no-dice".

Very poor warranty service.
  • + 2
 @necody Was this a carbon bike or AL?
  • + 28
 Easy, just take the broken frame to your LBS or certified YT dealer. . . . Oh wait. . . . Nevermind. Take it to your certified trash dumpster. We get so so many broken YTs at our shop, it's super frustrating to continually tell folks we cant really do much for them, except sell them a decent - well made bike.
  • + 2
 @Dnik: There was bigger issues at play than the stock of front triangles
  • + 17
 I miss Howie and Cam Zink & team's excellent program in Reno. The lack of sales tax was a nice bonus, too. My 2015 CF Capra is still going strong so I took a chance on a black friday TUES CF Pro for 3299. I know people who have put them through a terrible pounding and they are still rolling strong. I agree that the SoCal service expertise is nowhere near what the Reno operation was. I called SoCal once and they freely admitted that no one on staff knew anything about any YT bikes prior to the model year of their move (2017?). The offered to email Germany. WTF?

This doesn't look anything like a 'A total overhaul for nearly all YT Industries lines" to me, just a few little spec and color tweaks.
  • + 49
 Depends on where you are. I had an issue with my Tues 2018 CF Pro Race in Europe (shock mount bolt was stuck and wouldn’t come out) and they fixed it, door to door in 3.5 weeks.

Good comms, all free. Depends where you live.

Everyone can sit here and sh!t on them and say “BUY LBS!!” But the truth is that can be just as bad. A sibling cracked his 2 month old (top end) Transition Patrol and it’s causing issues to fix. Depends on the distributor in each country, always has, always will.
  • + 2
 @necody: joking
  • + 0
 @Dnik: Haha... That's exactly it.. I gave up on these guys after them never having product in stock.. Glad I missed out.
  • + 4
 @jamesdunford: this is true. My claims (broken seatpost and one chip i had checked) were also dealt with in very little time. No complaints here.
Europe does seem to get better support though.
  • + 2
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: I feel like it was Carbon
  • + 14
 @Trudeez: LBS Troll award winner 2019. What's the name of the shop? People who buy YT don't take a broken frame to a shop in the first place. We are shopless by choice, yet any good shop will assist with a mechanical issue (but obviously not frame damage).
  • + 6
 @endlessblockades: It doesn't seem all that strange for someone to take a broken frame to a shop to confirm that it's dead before giving up on it.
  • + 6
 Can't argue with that, but I would go straight to YT for a damage evaluation since there's one in my state.
  • + 12
 Similar experience but thankfully it wasn't a frame for me. I damaged my crank arm back in Aug of 2018. Submitted claim Aug 23. YT responded immediately saying they would work on getting me a crash replacement. Followed up every two weeks since that time and still no replacement to this date. Every two weeks YT responds saying they are close to shipping them out and they should have them shortly. I just gave up and ended up buying a replacement pair. This is my second YT and it will be my last bike from them. I will say that I have had multiple encounters with the Zink crew in the past and they were always super helpful and had replacement parts to me as soon as possible. The new riverside crew is just a joke to deal with.
  • + 7
 Interesting. Granted I haven’t broken a frame but have pestered them about the terrible paint (sent me free touch up paint) and shock hardware (sent me free shock hardware). They are always very timely, apologetic and thorough in their responses. I wonder if there is more to the story here.
  • + 1
 The other thing I would add is that the Capra is a lousy bike with an airshock. The frame is simply fantastic with a coil. So if you are planning to buy one, add that to the cost. Otherwise I’ve thrashed the hell out of my 2018 Capra 29er bike and love it (knocks on wood).
  • + 15
 I had similar problems with YT Canada. Customer service is terrible. My YT Jeffsy came to me quick but it was the wrong colour. Fine. Took the Red and Black because I just wanted to ride. They promised me a refund of 5% never saw a penny. I bought the custom water bottle and cage. After numerous emails I still haven’t received it so they basically stole 100 dollars there. Bolt dropped out of my frame. Had to fight to get a replacement. List goes on. Just an FYI for anyone thinking of one of these bikes in the future the face to face customer service you get at a bike shop is 100% worth it. For the record I loved the bike but sold it before I had anymore problems. #bikeshop4life for this guy.
  • - 13
flag dhmtbr777 (Jan 8, 2019 at 15:10) (Below Threshold)
 @Trudeez: and them charge them 40 bucks for tubes and some grips for 80 like all bike shops do?
  • + 3
 Crazy. I've had outstanding customer service. Broke a DT axle and they over night shipped me one no charge and threw in a mech hanger. Turns out the SDG seat post has a recall and I had a replacement part on my front door without. I thought it was rad that they knew exactly who bought the bike and got me the piece proactively. Contrary to other recalls I've seen the manufacturer just send out a press release and say go see your bike shop. Seems ambiguous. My buddy just bought a bike from YT and it came with the wrong crank length. He called and they sent them out asap. Sure it wasn't the correct crank in the first place but they made it right.
  • + 8
 @Ryezy: I've been eyeing the Jeffsy for the past few months, sent an email to the CDN contact and no response, this was approx 6 weeks ago. Not customer service friendly and it's my first impression, so no points scored. Hence I'm very gun shy now to buy direct as I've read a few similar stories as yours for YT Canada. Thanks for sharing your experience.
  • + 2
 My 2017 Tues cf has a poor headset kept loose after a day ride, dragging rear wheel . And I had to solve it at my expense because they don't care. Maybe they don't listen to anybody beside US and Germany though they sell their products at a higher price than US.
  • + 1
 @ryan83: I have a DHX2 with a climb switch on my Capra.
  • + 1
 @endlessblockades: I also work at a shop and have now seen 6 broken YT frames. Straight trash my guy.
  • + 10
 My experience with YT: Bought a black Jeffsy in 2016 (maybe 2017?) - after some delays in shipping they sent a red bike. I kept it since I didn't want to send it back.
- During the delays the price dropped by $500 so I asked for the difference since I didn't even have my bike yet - they refunded my $250, fair enough.
- The bearing in the shock linkage came loose, sent that back and got a replacement within 3 weeks.
- The brakes were SRAM guides, so I've obviouslay had to replace each of them (under warranty through SRAM)
- Noticed a soft area in the down tube, sent back and was given a new frame (black this time, yay!) - covered under warranty.
- Destroyed the from DT Swiss XMC 1200 rim when overshooting a jump to flat - crash replacement cost $400 for that.
- Recently broke my chain stay, sent pictures in and they say it was from a crash (maybe it was, I crash a lot, but I don't remember anything significant that would have snapped the CS like that) - that cost another $400 for crash replacement

This was my first carbon fiber bike (and wheels) and it has been pretty disappointing overall - Too many parts breaking and way too expensive to replace due to limited warranties. Customer support with YT has been pretty good overall though - timely responses and reasonable replacement times.

My next bike will be aluminum.
  • + 2
 @endlessblockades: sweet. I just put a Cane Creek DB coil cs on mine. Paired with a mrp Ribbon coil and it’s pure bliss.
  • + 1
 Same here even in the middle of the Midwest. YT is pretty but last like a huffy.
  • + 3
 @paulbur: This is why I don't want a carbon bike. AL all the way. Not as Bro as carbon, but a hell of a lot more durable in real world use.
  • + 6
 wow and I'm no longer considering them, @YTIndustries this post cost you a sale, get it together
  • + 1
 @Trudeez: Let me guess... A SC or maybe a Yeti? Scorching their pockets...
  • - 8
flag Fenderrbenderr (Jan 9, 2019 at 1:28) (Below Threshold)
 @Trudeez: and then sell them some overpriced shitbike that doesn't match their needs with leftover parts, no thank you sir.

I've seen bikeshops sell old trailbikes to kids that clearly wanted downhillbikes and got talked into replacing a decent fork with a used, broken one intended for freeride. That's just a no-go.

Also I feel sorry that you have to scam people like that because the big players told you so.

Petty much?
  • + 2
 @Ryezy: wow! I guess it was a blessing in disguise for me when they had no stock then.. Said f*ck it.. Spent the money and bought the sb130 frame set instead.
  • + 1
 @necody: was your bike that broke carbon or aluminium?
  • - 4
flag sunringlerider (Jan 9, 2019 at 8:39) (Below Threshold)
 @Fenderrbenderr: so did the shop hold a gun to the kids heads to sell them the bikes they didn’t want? Leftover parts, Like, sram brakes, Fox suspension, e13 drivetrain?
I find the YT love humorous.
  • + 0
 @myfriendgoose: Got any specifics, my guy? CF/AL what type of breakage? I race DH n Enduro all over the West coast and talk to lots of my guys and have heard all kinds of breakage stories from guys on all kinds of brands, but def not more YT guys, in fact fewer than most. my guy.
  • + 6
 I've seen several in our shop with poor assembly quality, no grease on bearings etc. Pretty much 100% chance there is no grease on the cassette/freehub driver interface, resulting in a near guaranteed nightmare if you need to service or replace anything there, such as a drivetrain upgrade. YT customer service seems ambivalent at best, I had to call in a favor at DT Swiss to help a customer out.

Good bikes when they work, but I think they need to step up their customer support.
  • + 1
 @knarrr: That sounds more reasonable.
  • + 3
 Shameless plug for Commencal. They have amazing customer support in the USA.
  • + 1
 @jamesdunford: had that happen on a buddies santacruz.... had it fixed 45 mins after he dropped it off at the shop he bought it at sounds a lot better than almost a month without your bike
  • - 4
flag tim-r (Jan 9, 2019 at 20:45) (Below Threshold)
 @freeridejerk888: well I would hope it was fixed in 45 minutes, since he paid $2000 extra for that service. Haha
  • + 3
 @skycripp: I can attest to that. They always treated me great. Quick responses too.
  • + 6
 In scanning through this I find some of the comments very strange.

Sending a bike back to the distributor because a bolt is stuck, or a pivot has come loose and not having it for weeks. Any decent shop would have you riding in hours if not a few days if the bearing is out of stock or something.

Trying to get a damaged crank replaced by the distributor instead of just getting a new one. Are they replacing parts for free when you smash them or something? The shop I worked at that sent bikes out due to internet sales, if we somehow created a problem with our build we were contacting a local store and paying your bill to get it fixed(I think I saw this happen 2 times in 5 years). There was no way would want you to be without your bike that you just paid good money for.

I always thought that all these direct to consumer brands would attract people that didn't need the free service and expertise that a good shop provides. It appears there same mix of folk are getting these bikes, it is not a bad thing at all to not have 20 years of bike knowledge in your head. Just seems that without being able to do your own work and you get a direct to consumer bike it would be real smart, to go get a good relationship with your LBS and if they are any good they will take good care of you. That will keep you on the trail instead of waiting for your bike to come back in a box weeks later.
  • + 3
 And to clarify, I am not saying to let that relationship with an LBS make it so that you are only buying the bike brands that they sell. Get the bike that is right for you, budget, fit and style. But unless you are a wiz with the wrenches, go make that relationship and you should be treated right no matter what you bring in.
  • + 2
 @poozank: same here man I was looking at the new tues, but not anymore
  • - 1
 Extra 2000? The difference between a base carbon nomad is like 1000 at most. And yeah it's worth it cause you get a better bike as well @tim-roo:
  • + 0
 @freeridejerk888: yeah it comes with a Yari and a base super deluxe..... No thanks. The S aluminum spec is worse than the AL comp and costs $1000 more too. Happy? You pay $1000 extra for the LBS to fix your shock bolt.
  • + 0
 Lol. It's a 1000 for a better frame and you get free service sometimes and you can always ask them for help don't be grumpy @tim-roo:
  • + 1
 @freeridejerk888: SC frames are surely very nice. But I’d rather save a lot of money on my Aluminium YT (that shreds), get better components, and then do the work myself. If I break the frame, then I guess I’ll be riding my hardtail for a while. But that’s ok, I took that gamble, and so far it has paid off. Neither of us are grumpy, we are probably both happy with our choices. Take care!
  • + 2
 @Chris97a: Totally. An LBS recently replaced the main pivot bearings (that I bought online and brought in) in my 2015 Capra with a smile for a few bucks and a sixpack. Pro mechanics can work on anything, but no mechanic can fix a broken frame. Still gonna have to deal with the MFG. When I need to warranty something I usually buy and install the (upgraded if possible!) part myself before even getting involved with the MFG.

Some people are comfortable trading stocks with Schwab and paying brokerage fees, but I use Robinhood and pay nothing.
  • + 1
 @Dnik: Yeah it probably was out of stock, but they should have pulled a front triangle off a bike not sold yet.....if they are worried about bad publicity or never-repeat customers because of it. I used to deal with a KTM motorcycle dealer in Gladwin MI that would pull a part off a bike on the showroom floor if you needed it to race and they did not have it in stock. That's customer service that generates customer loyalty.

Also SoCal pretty much wrecks everything about life in America and has for years.........
  • + 2
 Wow. That is just terrible. It sounds like YT got too big, too quick. Smaller, more nimble manufacturers know where it's at and monitor pinkbike forums for these types of comments. I would love to hear from them as to why you had to wait so long for a replacement.
  • + 67
 YT if you are listening... 1.) Sounds like you have an issue with USA customer service/warranty responses that need improvement.
2.) Your competitive edge in pricing by being consumer direct has been reduced in the eyes of many buyers, making your brand less of a value when a buyer compares it to only marginally higher priced bike shop brands.

Market forces at work, either fix or be beaten.
  • + 16
 Canada customer service is lacking as well. From what I’ve gathered, there’s only one YT rep and if you’re not buying a bike and just need customer support, don’t expect an answer right away or at all, especially if that rep is away at Crankworx... Had issues with my headset bearing and after repeatedly trying to resolve it through our rep I was forced to contact YT USA due to no response. After getting in contact with YT US support they directed me to contact my distributor and later explained that he was at Crankworx and would reply soon... a few days goes by and still nothing, so I contact YT US again and they give me same Crankworx crap. Worst of all, they can’t help with anything because they can’t steal business from YT Canada.. rediculous as it just about lost a customer. Ended up going through Acros for the horrid headset bearing (it’s the only one that works with these bikes) and it took 3 weeks for shipping. $40 shipping, over $100 just for the bearing, emails to Acros and I had to go out of my way to go to the bank to place an international bank transfer because they don’t accept visa/any other form of payment outside of Europe. Not to mention that they sent me the wrong size crown race and I had to pay an additional $25 for a cane creek crown race (CC crown race worked but the bearings did not.) Most expensive headset ever in my books. Just noting that this is a YT Tues sold in 2018 with the 2017 frame and 2018 parts (stealth black frame.) have heard about a lot of people having issues with these headsets.
  • + 3
 I will add that I do love the feel of the bike and do admit that it rides exceptionally well. I am very pleased with my YT and for the cost, I guess that’s just the price you have to pay for a wickedly spec’d steed. After all, part of the reason they offer bikes at such a cost is solely due to the saved cost of not having such customer service.
  • + 6
 Agree 100%. The warranty thing I think there is more to the story. Every moron wants a new frame when they threw the bike off a cliff on accident. Thats where the LBS can be the middle man and really add value / simply level with people; 'no bro...thats not gonna be covered under warranty'/

Your second point is really the big one IMO. in 2015 the Capra was the best priced bike with the best components available - full stop. Today...5500 USD with some weird random drivetrain stuff and Performance Elite this or that is not gonna cut it when you can get a Santa Cruz for ~1K more and the comfort that comes along wtih buying from a shop.
  • + 3
 @nateisgrate: oh my god why didnt you just buy a new headset haha
  • + 3
 @Bikegy4546 Market forces at work? If you are sold out in the middle of the season customers are not having problem with the value for money... If you planned the stock to last through all the season customers react more positively than you expected...
  • + 5
 @aceface17: that’s what I was trying to do lol... and the only headset that works with most yt bikes are the Acros ones that come stock. This was confirmed through YT
  • + 2
 @nateisgrate: ah fair play. didnt know that
  • + 9
 @nateisgrate: I had the wrong size bike shipped to me from YT last summer. Dealing with the YT guy was so painful, he even told me he was sorry he couldn't get back to me right away because he was working! Pretty sure that me trying to buy a bike from YT Canada is his work.
  • + 3
 @nateisgrate: Those acros headsets totally bring down the quality of the bikes. They are absolute garbage. Good news, with a mix of enduro bearings and Cane Creek races it is possible to be rid of the acros headset, especially that totally useless nylon compression ring in the upper assembly that usually ends up shredded to pieces after two weeks.
  • + 2
 @dirtjumpmatts: if something like this ever happen again, don't sweat it. Call credit card. File a complaint to freeze the charge and the president of customer support will be blowing up your phone. If not you have a free bike. Most people do know how much credit cards company protect their customers. The sellers are almost always dicked over. Now that you know, don't abuse it. Use it if the sellers really aren't responding to you.
  • + 1
 @alwaysMORE: Actually it's a well known strategy to control demand. Limit supply and demand bizarrely increases.
  • + 1
 @nateisgrate: too bad they never make enough like Giant or Specialized where they would have a year end clearance. Great components + discount = part it out or buy a frame you like from another brand.
  • + 1
 They miss informed ya!
@nateisgrate:
  • + 38
 Haters gonna hate cuz they're peanut butter and jelly! Love the LBS mechanics chiming in like their service is always rainbows and butterflies. Dealt with plenty of LBS douchers so get off your high horse.
  • + 9
 Agreed. I love my local bike shop but we have a handful in Denver that could shut down tomorrow and I couldn't care less. They charge more than MSRP for things like tires, pretend to be experts in everything and do little to support local trail building or rides. Not all shops are created equal and it's no surprise that companies like YT, Commencal and Canyon are denting the LBS marketshare.
  • + 4
 it is really hard to find a good LBS, and then when you finally find one, you still have to limit yourself to the brands they sell, I am ready to pull the trigger on a bike, but my favorite LBS doesnt sell the brand (and definitely not the model) I want, and as much as i try their brand I just dont feel the same as the other brand, is a huge compromise not buying the exact model one wants.
  • + 29
 It’s quite strange to see so many negative comments towards YT… I have a huge respect for YT guys - they built up company which delivers great value products (just for reference comparison of top bikes in Czech Republic: YT Capra 29 CF Pro Race cost just 53% of Specialized S-Works Enduro 29 - yes, you can have it for half price!!!). They took a risk and signed AG, the most successful DH rider from last few years who isn’t cheap. That guy won first race on brand new bike and also WC overall, he delivered strong market positioning outside of Europe. They support future star Vali Holl who absolutely dominates in junior ladies. They signed more free ride big guns (Cam Zink, Jordie Lunn, Adolf Silva, Andreu Lacondeguy, Brett Tippie or Rob Warner...) than anyone else. And they achieved all of that in TEN YEARS!!!
I’m happy owner of 2018 Jeffsy with no quality or reliability issues. I can’t comment on level of customer service in US/CAN but I experienced quick response here in Europe. Yes, waiting time is over. I just made my order. And yes, I can ride without bottle cage...
  • + 3
 I think what has happened is the people they have put in place for US/CAD are dropping the ball in supporting their products. It's going to cost them big time as people chat out on the trails and it doesn't take long for the word to get out.
  • + 3
 @Jokesterwild: I agree. Not only do we chat on trails, but this on line comment section has changed my decision. I clicked on this story because I was keen to get a Capra 27 this spring. After reading these comments however, I’ve eliminated YT from my new bike options. I hope YT is reading and realizes that word spreads pretty fast when customer service is lacking.
  • + 28
 So they all go up in price and get some ugly paint jobs, good job?
  • - 9
flag Mondbiker (Jan 8, 2019 at 12:21) (Below Threshold)
 they are lower/same in prices for the same model as previously? But they also don´t come with cool components as before, xt instead of xtr, descendant cranks instead of carbon RF...Not that I wouldn´t prefer both of them actually, just saying they went up in price is wrong.
  • + 10
 @Mondbiker: so going from $5199 to $5499 isnt a price increase?
  • + 13
 @Tr011: Yeah - I'm only familiar with the CAD pricing, but everything (with the possible exception of the lowest end model) seems to have gone up in price for us.

It's funny because the higher end Capras are now quite in line with what you'd pay for a bike from a comparable brand on a sales floor. Brands that actually answer emails and warranty bikes. $6K CAD hits a lot of regular MSRPs (which most don't pay anyways...). Can't imagine why I'd ever buy a Capra without the savings normally associated with direct-to-consumer sales.
  • + 2
 @shlotch: Aren't fluctuating exchange rates brilliant!
  • + 1
 @Tr011: I honestly didn´t check pro race model before so I don´t know if if was cheaper in EU before or not, however every other model than that is either the same or cheaper here. But like I said in the other comment, there is one less model than before for carbon bikes and equipment wise it´s between previous two (cf and cf pro, no there isn´t any CF) , price is also between the two pretty much in the middle. I don´t know, I think prices are the last thing that would worry me with them, customer service and availability though...
  • + 5
 I think the new paint jobs are killer. But the direct to consumer advantage in terms of price are pretty marginal for what you get.
  • + 5
 Petrol silver looks sick IMO
  • + 13
 Meh, don't see what all the crying is about. I have a 2018 Jeffsy 29 CF Pro Race, no issues, no complaints. Rides like a steed and climbs like a boss. To each his own I guess. As for comments on Gwin leaving, does this stand for Trek as well since the Athertons are now off Trek? Should everyone get rid of their Session and Remedy?
  • - 7
flag freeridejerk888 (Jan 8, 2019 at 16:56) (Below Threshold)
 both brand are known for their bikes braking so without big name people like them they should see a decrease in sales
  • + 11
 1 year on on my Jeffsy AL 2. Not one issue. No failed headset, no failed BB, no cracked frame, no nothing. So, either y'all are the biggest bunch of abusive riders or I'm one of 2 lucky owners who got good kit (the other being Swartzie)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • + 5
 Adding my own anecdote...I've been wrenching/building up bikes for myself and friends/families for many years now. I've dealt one-on-one with many bike brands over the years and can only say that YT is one of the few brands that have been nothing but friendly and responsive. Dealing with other boutique brands is like pulling teeth (if you are even lucky to get a hold of a support rep). Also, no problems and no complaints with my Jeffsy either. It's an all around great ride and killer LT 29r.
  • + 12
 Come to these comments and there are tons of people talking about how YT sucks and “my LBS gets a thousand broken YT frames a year” blah blah blah... meanwhile go to most YT forum pages and it’s largely happy customers. Sure, there are some valid complaints in there, but that happens, and it’s easier to deal with when you paid $2000+ less for your bike. I’ll deal with it if it comes up.
  • + 12
 The AL comp is the high end aluminum bike. It has great specs
  • + 9
 The AL comp appears to be identical to the “base” AL from the second half of last year, just with a big price bump
  • + 5
 @InstantBreakfast: Instant Ramen
  • + 1
 @InstantBreakfast: I think you're referring to the AL Limited Edition of which there were only 200 made. The AL (base) has had the exact same specs for almost 4 years now.
  • + 1
 @NickB01: I was referring to the Tues AL Comp, I probably should have clarified that
  • + 2
 @InstantBreakfast:

Yea I was referring to the Capra. The AL comp now comes with high end Fox suspension.. no it’s not Factory, but I believe it still has all the same adjustments.

For $3,200 it seems like the best value.
  • + 3
 Couldn't agree more. YT is a good Al bike option.
  • + 1
 I wonder if the fork is the grip2 version. It doesn't say anywhere. Happy to see a float x2 but I would prefer a dhx2.
How about the e13 dropper? Any good?
  • + 12
 These colors are so nice!
  • + 10
 The 2019 CF pro is $5999CAN but is the same as the $4999 CF 2018 except for GX vs XT shifting
  • + 1
 YAY NEW MODELS!!!
  • + 9
 why all the YT badmouthing all of a sudden? I've had my jeffsy for over a year and no problems, love that bike. I've had no problems with their USA support either.
  • + 6
 Surprises me, too, as YT had reached sainthood status among the bros here on Pink Bike. You would have thought they gave these bikes away the way people always chime in on reviews for more expensive bikes. Turns out they charge money for these things.
  • + 5
 PB is full of loud, highly opinionated haters and fanbois, but is not the home of all YT riders. There is a silent majority out there. YT def needs to fix and CS issues in distro countries and any bike assembly issues in Germany or wherever they are pre-assembled. Mine have been good down to the NM torque on the bolts, but obviously there are issues out there.
  • + 10
 aaaaanndd.... they're gone.
  • + 9
 Capra Al comp build wins for me..
  • + 1
 yeah if I was going to buy one, that would be my pick, cheaper carbon one has some interesting component choice and cost 1000e more, no thanks.
  • + 0
 agreed
  • + 1
 Exactly. However first batch in Large size is already out of stock. Next batch in March. I thought it will not be limited edition.
  • + 9
 No new Jeffsy?
  • + 4
 I bet they have a frame update coming.

What I'd love to see is an xc/trail bike. Something in the 130/140 range.
  • + 2
 @Poulsbojohnny: I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they don't try to "enduoize" the jeffsy, keep it a trail bike imo.
  • + 1
 Very disappointed as well. I couldn't care less for an "update" either. Just restock last seasons alu Jeffsy and I'd throw my money at them.

Looks like my next bike will be an alu Cannondale Habit instead.
  • - 1
 @NYShred: damn you know you can look at better bikes too right?
  • - 1
 Enter the Canyon Neuron. Wink
  • + 5
 Happy with my ‘18 Tues. FYI every brand has its issues. I’m dealing with a Fox fork warranty that is making any of these complaints look like minor whines. By far the worst customer service I’ve ever encountered.
  • + 5
 If you need entry level DH, than 2500k EUR for a TUES base is pretty good deal, no? What are other options out there on the market?
  • - 5
flag Mondbiker (Jan 9, 2019 at 6:04) (Below Threshold)
 Canyon sender, better bike overall.
  • + 1
 Commencal my dude
  • + 3
 Nice price, rides good. Definitely feels like a bit of a liability though knowing that if you have an issue here in Canada your on your own for essentially any part of the bike. Some component brands like E13 will answer emails and warranty directly to you but raceface you need to use a shop as a liaison. Then once you have a frame issue, your out for a long time due to non responsive reps and even if they want to back a warranty, no available stock.
  • + 6
 I’m wondering if the tues 29 everyone is crying about will be released with the jeffsy
  • + 2
 I called YT USA once......let's just say that conversation resulted in nothing but me losing mass quantities of brain cells and time. that company is a joke. Kid who answered was douche canoe. So I assume all of YT is one direct sale of a douche canoe.
  • + 7
 > a douche canoe

Welcome to 90% of the MTB industry.
  • + 2
 Talking about availability and customer service - I just got sweet email from YT regarding my order of red CAPRA 29' Pro which should be available from 30th of Jan:
"Hey Young Talent, lucky you! We are thrilled to tell you that your bike is available already and can therefore be shipped. Please write to service@yt-industries.com. and give us a short feedback if the advanced delivery date will be suitable to you..."
YEEEEEAH! YT ROCKS!
  • + 1
 Great looking bikes but after reading the warranty horror stories above and experiencing it first hand from my buddy who spent 4 months trying to get a new hanger and a small bolt for his rear triangle, I won’t be purchasing one!!!
  • + 1
 I have 3 bikes from YT now. A 2016 Capra CF. A 2017 Jeffsy 27 CF comp 1, that I bought for my wife. And so far my favorite, 2018 Jeffsy 29 CF Pro Race. All of the frames are still good and haven't broken. I also ride the shit out of them and have tomahawked my Capra down a hillside several times. My experience with YT service over the last few years has been debatable. My capra makes creaking sounds from the bottom bracket. I've been in contact with YT over email. They generally respond within 1-2 days. They have absolutely no interest in replacing a frame because it makes creaking sounds. Probably because this is known problem with that generation of frame and it doesn't make business sense to replace all the noisy frames. Instead they redesigned it with the BB92's and both my 2017 and 2018 BB92 fitted Jeffsy's have zero creaky noises or issues. They offered me a 1500.00 crash replacement frame on the capra. Pass. I'll deal with the noise. I figured out you can minimize the creaks by installing the BB with a loctite bearing retaining compound.
As for broken components... taco'd an aluminum e13 wheel on my wife's bike. Made a claim directly with e13 and they had a new wheel on my doorstep free of charge in 5 days. I also cracked the carbon wheel on the 29er and got a replacement free of charge in 5 days. Lost a chainguide and they sent one for free. e13 is awesome and they back their components 100%!!!
I've learned that if anything fails and you can avoid YT customer service, do it. Otherwise deal with the component company directly.
As for the parts you can't avoid YT. Like YT specific bolts, hangers. I've had probably 90% success stories at getting replacements. Some times they send for free. The worst one I came across was they were out of stock for derailleur hangers and I had to wait 2 months to get one. This was the same time they were changing distributors to the soCal location. I now keep spare hangers on hand so I won't be out of a bike if one breaks.

I love my YT bikes and am a proud customer. If you have basic mechanical skills and don't need a bike shop to fix every little thing these are great buys. I do recommend having 2 bikes on hand because if you do run into a situation where you need a YT specific part, you are going to wait a couple of weeks to get it. Better off riding your spare bike during that time rather than waiting bikeless and complaining on pinkbike about how you're screwed by a company that gave you a top spec build for 5k rather than 8-10k like Yeti or SC. On that note I do feel for the people with broken frames as I imagine that is a major bummer. Moral of the story is make sure you have a spare bike if you're riding YT and don't want to be dead in the water if something goes wrong.
  • + 2
 YT needs to update their Jeffsy flip-chip geo to low/extra-low (i.e. 67/66°) - not the current high/low (i.e. 68/67°). I love my 2018 Jeffsy, but I will never use the high setting.
  • + 5
 Still using the papier mache cassette, I see. Lovely.
  • + 15
 I’m a 200lb rider and pedal up 2000 feet climbs regularly and have loved my e13. Smooth shifting and durable after 100 rides. Running xtr on it.
  • - 1
 @ryan83: As impressive as that sounds, it's not really the elevation that will cause the cassette to fail but the manner in which you reach the elevation. I am 145-150 lbs and have had an e13 granny bend and fail on me during technical
  • - 1
 @ryan83: ...climbing*
  • + 1
 @ryan83: Mine lasted 3 months, go figure. However, the XT that replaced it (at a fraction of the price) is doing great more than a year later and still shifts better than the e13 did when new.
  • + 1
 They've got a few good colour combos and some okay ones but that blue/white base model is painted like a boat. A good match for Orbea's stock (worst possible) colour combinations. It's also incorrectly displayed in this page as a 29 CF Pro.
  • + 1
 Anyone else noticed that the Geometry Tables for the Capra 29 are Identical for '18 & '19 BUT the '19 model has 42/44 Rake Forks compared to the 51 from last year????
Wonder if the Geo has changed but they've simply not displayed the New Tables yet!!??
  • + 1
 This confirms my concerns about buying YT other consumer direct brands. YT should be listening and working to address their short comings.
The best marketing campaigns is keeping your existing owners/customer happy so they buy again. Companies call it customer support, but it is marketing. Faster resolve issue better rep you get!
  • + 4
 Honestly as popular as these bikes seem to be I’ve yet to see one on the trails.
  • - 1
 bought by people who talk but don't ride
  • - 1
 @VFox: That or they are broken.
  • + 1
 They just always seem to be sold out (Capra at least). Trust that that is because of supply chain issues and that YT will sort that out. If it is because they want to create some artificial scarcity, then I guess people will have only limited patience left, incl myself.
  • + 5
 Seen a few, mostly the Tues and the odd Capra. If you're not a bike nerd, they don't really stick out. That's a good thing I suppose.
  • + 8
 Must be cruising to many pumpjumpnflow trails. Get to the gnar, they'll be lurking.
  • + 2
 well, limited numbers and worldwide sales might be a factor. I've seen them here and there. Saw a nice red/white capra in Bend last summer, a nice carbon Jeffsy on my local trails. They are out there. And I ride twice a week. So there. Smile
  • + 2
 Saw a brand new Capra last weekend at Tokul
  • + 4
 Capra 27 -> Capra 29
Tues 27 -> ???
  • + 15
 Check Gwins craiglist.
  • + 0
 Think they're North American service is generally brutal, its going to cost them over the years. Dont think the same applies to Europe. My first world problem is I just picked up a 2018 Pro Race in November and now they introduce an all black pro race. DAYUM, I love all black things like my 2016 Pro Race.
  • + 6
 Probably because in Europe, you’re dealing with Germans, who have a slightly higher work ethic than your typical dude-bro slacker from SoCal.
  • + 2
 I have an 18 Capra AL Comp 29, yes I've had a few issues with it, but they were all self induced LOL. I will say the slop in the seat post is less than desirable though...
  • + 3
 I had trouble with the E-Thirteen post (side play and not returning), the customer service from E13 was amazing, sent me a new spring set for free when I described the problems. The brass keys in the post not so easy to come by though.
  • + 2
 @Steventux: yep that's the only issue is the slop I may just replace it with something better one day
  • + 1
 @N9netn9ne: The brass keys in the post are where the wear occurs, there's 4 in the post itself and one in the top which holds the saddle bracket in. I've read a few posts where the owner has evidently lost the top brass key and the saddle will never go tight again.
It seems to be a trade off with having the 4 inner keys loose enough for the post to extend freely but tight enough they don't allow side to side movement.
Also the ridged disk fitted to the bottom of the post (where the actuator rod passes through) can come loose after a few services, this also makes for a wobbly saddle, threadlock on the 4 tiny torque bolts should stop this happening though.
I think it's a fairly lightweight post, I also have a Brand-X which seems to weigh the twice as much and claims to be service free, not sure what that means when the british mud finds its way inside...
  • + 2
 Haters gonna hate. I've had nothing but #goodtimes on 2018 @YTIndustries Jeffsy 27 AL. Just look for the guy on the trail with the big smile.
  • + 4
 Price cuts, they gave us price cuts!
  • + 1
 The comments regarding customer service and what sounds like a potential lack of QA/QC had me thinking about other direct consumer companies. Has this issue been seen for companies such as Commencal or Canyon?
  • + 2
 No updates on the Jeffsy?? That red would look quite good on the Jeffsy as well as all internal cabling.
  • + 0
 There is a new Jeffsy 29 on the way... and it looks aewsome!
www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/was-bringt-yt-fuer-2019.881880/page-12
There was the Trailer on Youtube, but its not available anymore.
  • + 4
 No jeffsy?
  • + 3
 And they’re already sold out.
  • - 1
 Likely never in stock to begin with - the company is vaporware.
  • + 2
 @NYShred: They are pretty transparent about the lead time for availability, at least on the euro shop sites. I assume they can't do what bigger brands do and suck up the leftover stock.
  • + 2
 Going from slx + e13 to NX eagle on the lowest models is huge downgrade fom last year imo
  • + 1
 how could you say that, you get the eagle maaaan lol and fairly heavy one too.
  • + 2
 Finally a CF Pro with a decent color way. Black. Although that candy apple . . . . . aint bad.
  • + 2
 Man, I will say the new paint jobs are KILLER. Way better than the boring-ass silver on the old team model, or whatever they had on the other older models.

I can’t comment to the customer service or reliability, but I think these are nice looking bikes at the very least.
  • + 3
 Canadian website. No Canadian prices.
  • + 22
 YT supports their Canadian pricelist as much as they support their Canadian customers
  • - 1
 @Tr011: They are busy making countless paint jobs for worlds and rampage.
  • + 0
 ca.yt-industries.com

Here they show Canadian prices....
  • + 1
 @Bjoern88: wow no wonder why they didnt want to list them, what a joke
  • + 1
 I see the jeffsy going to 130 travel in the rear 150 in the front or even 140 that would be a perfect trail weapon
  • + 1
 Where's the 180/180mm Carpa AL Pro Race 29 Limited Edition?
How about frame only options?
  • + 2
 They'll have 3 of every size.
  • + 2
 Awesome bikes, plenty of whingers on here isn't there!
  • + 1
 Everything is sold out but will be getting more stock when they release the new lineup for 2020.
  • + 1
 Haters gonna hate... the lack of bottle cage
  • + 1
 it's too bad they have not found colors as huge as their bikes !
  • + 1
 Has anyone ever broken one of their aluminum frames???
  • + 1
 Yes seen cracked ones
  • + 1
 @Drewwillardson: Kelly mcgarry broke one on those steps in China. Well it maybe didn't break, but the head tube ovalised pretty strongly.
  • + 1
 So they dont come with Sensus Grips anymore? Did Zink leave?
  • - 5
flag Kimura (Jan 8, 2019 at 13:19) (Below Threshold)
 Zink needs to leave and go back riding for Hyper
  • + 1
 fucking e13 cassettes...oye
  • + 1
 Bro-brah’s and core-ha’s. So gnar.
  • + 1
 Most brands could take a leaf out of YT's book
  • + 1
 Just put a bottle cage on them!!!!
  • + 0
 hahahah..agree with this..try to Bolt it and then ask for a replace frame..
  • - 1
 Nice to see they're making XXL sizes, oh wait it looks like they've just labeled a large as an XXL
  • - 1
 When we getting 2019 Canyon?
  • + 0
 Too bad ????
  • - 2
 Athertons to YT ??!!! Thoughts
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