YT Releases New Decoy 29

Jan 30, 2020
by Dan Roberts  
YT Decoy 29

YT have released details of their new Decoy 29, which sports 29" wheels front and rear, as opposed to the other Decoy model's mullet setup. The new bike comes in sizes S to XXL with updated geometry and 150mm of travel. There are two models, Pro and Base, available in Black Magic, Twotone Blue, and Ghostship Green colours.

YT classify the Decoy 29 as more of an all-mountain bike due to its changes in suspension and geometry in comparison to the regular Decoy's more enduro focus.


Geometry

YT Decoy 29 Geometry

The geometry of the Decoy 29 sees steeper head and seat tube angles combined with a longer chainstay. There's still the option to adjust the geometry to suit your preferences, with a small chip in the seat stay that offers half a degree of head and seat angle adjustment and 6mm of BB adjustment. This also changes the reach, stack and effective top-tube.


Spec, Weight & Price

YT Decoy 29 Pro
YT Decoy 29 Pro

Both models of the Decoy 29 use the Shimano E8000 system with 540Wh batteries and 165mm cranks. The come with DT Swiss wheels clad in Maxxis Minion DHR 2.4" tires and have 200mm rotors front and rear.

YT Decoy 29 Pro
YT Decoy 29 Pro
Decoy 29 Pro in Ghostship Green.

The Pro model comes with a Fox 36 and Float DPX2 shock both in Performance Elite spec, Shimano 12-speed XT drivetrain, and SRAM Code RSC brakes. It weighs in at 23.2kg (51.15lbs) and costs €5,599 ($5,599).

YT Decoy 29 Base
YT Decoy 29 Base
Decoy 29 Base in Twotone Blue.

The Base model uses a RockShox Yari RC and Deluxe Select for suspension, Shimano 12-speed SLX drivetrain and SRAM Code R brakes. The Decoy 29 Base tips the scale at 23.9kg (52.69lbs) and costs €4,399 ($4,399).

YT Decoy 29



For more information: yt-industries.com


120 Comments

  • 285 5
 Ebikes are getting really close to passing for regular bikes...I fell for that trick once in Thailand, never again!!!
  • 44 1
 you know in Asia the wall outlets are different? So how did you charged yours, male or female?
  • 6 2
 pure Gold
  • 8 0
 I hope that made me laugh for the real reasons.....
  • 17 3
 I think you new the whole time !
  • 3 2
 Ridding my old 26" inch Jekyll with the Dyad shock many people thought it was a motor. The frame was very wide at the downtube,add the weird looking shock it would trick a lot of people. Many of them look to me like WTF?
  • 1 0
 good one!!!
  • 3 2
 @homerjm: one of the best shocks I’ve ever ridden. Hands down
  • 4 0
 @viatch: I haven't gotten that far in therapy to admit the answer.
  • 2 0
 That was my argument when people complained about them being banned certain places. I said it wasnt going to matter in 5 years as technology gets more compact. Looks like it'll be sooner.
  • 3 1
 one day soon, the top comment on an ebike article will be all about the bike.
  • 1 2
 Yeah, it was a ways down before they mentioned that it was an ebike, too. Like it’s just another bike, WITH A MOTOR!
  • 3 0
 I ride my ebike long time.
  • 1 1
 @ranke: today is not that day.
  • 2 0
 Best comment of 2020 so far!
  • 1 0
 @dynamatt: it was not bad at all,but far from being very good or the best I think.
  • 69 1
 holy shit the chainstays are longer than brexit
  • 40 5
 Yes, but more popular.
  • 8 3
 I thought that too when I first saw e-bike geo, but got a chance to ride a Specialized Levo and realized you kind of need long chainstays or the front wheel wanders while climbing. The amount of torque you have on hand kind of dictates a different front/rear center balance.
  • 20 14
 @silasdbstreeter: Ya man, they're nothing like real mountain bikes.
  • 2 0
 Take a look at the new Orange stage 6 if you wanna see long chainstays
  • 3 0
 Those are actually pretty short chainstays for an ebike
  • 1 1
 I don’t think they will get much shorter unless the motors get more compact. I ride a Levo with a 455 chain stay and bike feels pretty well sorted. I was worried about it before I test road it but it felt similar to any other trail Nike I had ridden.
  • 23 3
 Last pic - Redbill eBike hill-climb competition?
  • 28 3
 I'd watch that. Maybe Rampage, but backwards?
  • 59 0
 Egapmar
  • 6 1
 @vemegen: Not gonna lie, that one took me a second.
  • 25 1
 E-gapmar to be precise.
  • 4 0
 @IntoTheEverflow: Ok, well now we HAVE to do this.
  • 10 1
 Everytime I see an ebike, I wonder if mechanics at LBS getting trained in all the different types of e-bike technologies out there and will be able to service and fix any issues that arise?
If an eletronic component fails on your YT bike how long would it realistically take before you can have the bike up and running again?
Do you send the whole bike it back, how does a average cyclist figure out whats wrong and repot back to an online retailer what the issue is?
  • 12 2
 You plug it into a computer, and call someone to diagnose it, or unbolt it and send it back No joke.
  • 8 1
 All you have to do is install an update and reboot it. If that does not work, just try it again.
  • 3 0
 What’s proprietary besides the battery? Any LBS with steps knowledge can diffuse 99% of problems. My shop sells giant (which doesnt use steps) and they still said no problem “if” i were to have an issue with shimano electronics.
  • 6 0
 Ebikes are just nuts and bolts and some electrical wires. I find that we're less of mechanics on ebikes and more of parts replacers.
  • 3 0
 It's all about who makes the motor. If it's Bosch parts are easy to find as most ebikes use Bosch. Steps is a little tougher, and Specialized is 100% proprietary
  • 8 0
 Thanks for all the replies To be honest I'm trying to educate myself on these things because my mom asked for a pedal assist bike for her 60th!
  • 2 0
 mechanics are starting to get trained in this sort of thing. Our LBS has a mechanic that did a full course on ebikes
  • 3 0
 @spaceofades: Bosch and Specialized have the best tech and parts support in business and extremely generous warranty policies.
  • 3 0
 @IamSeaDevil: they're good, but if your specialized has issues you NEED to go to a specialized dealer. Only downside of the system
  • 6 1
 CTL ALT DELETE
  • 2 0
 @pargolf8: at least here in Spain Shimano services are local,easy to service or replace any part like any other Shimano thing. That is the real good thing about that system,no need to send far away or wait weeks for parts, at least that is what my LBS trusted guy told me about this. I have a few issues with 2 Shimano shifters and it was really quick and have a no question asked about the broken/missing parts.
  • 2 0
 But they do not get any phycological help after fiddeling around for hours with some cabels in the tight spots Smile
  • 2 0
 @Caiokv: Turn it off for 15 seconds and turn it back on. Try that twice, then call IT at YT.
  • 1 0
 I've been there and at least on my experience the first time in matter of 1 week I have a complete new bike, the second time in the same timeframe I had a new motor on the bike. This is my experience with Specialized turbo levo 2019. By the way, my lbs tech made all the work.
  • 1 0
 To re-calibrate the Shimano motor, a dealer has to have a special module. I went down to the only ebike friendly shop in the area (Downshift bikes Roanoke VA) and the owner Steve bought the module right then and there. Seems like an opportunity for forward-thinking shops to capitalize on demand.
  • 8 0
 I think we should have a naming competition for all ebikes. This one's pretty good. It narrowly beat out the YT Bait 'n' Switch..
  • 3 2
 YT Limited Edition
  • 13 9
 Once these look like regular old mountain bikes, a lot of people will stop complaining and be riding one. The future is near...
  • 5 3
 The new Levo SL that comes out on Tuesday could almost pass for a Stumpjumper
  • 1 0
 @IamSeaDevil: ?????? do tell.
  • 10 0
 @stumphumper92

Once these mountain bikers get regular old, a lot of them will stop complaining and be riding one.

I'm not an ebike owner. I don't want or need one but think they're great for those that can benefit from them.

But all the people who hate them and want them eradicated from the world of MTB... are they seriously saying that when their time comes and they just can't cut it on their 'normal' bikes anymore (which is an inevitability for most of us), they're just going to turn their backs and ignore something that might give them another 5 years (maybe? More even?) of riding and enjoyment?

This is not meant as a slight against anyone who doesn't like ebikes, more a genuine question to those dead against them as to whether their attitudes will change as Life and Time pulls your trousers down and double-teams you over the years?

I honestly can't belive that almost everyone here wont be happily riding one once we're getting closer to the age territory of 'coffin-dodger'.
  • 1 0
 @IamSeaDevil:
Ha! Snuck that one in Smile wish it looked more like the enduro though
  • 1 0
 @Dpca10: Do you have a link to this bike?
  • 14 9
 Too late, I just got a Yamaha XT250
  • 2 1
 So they have dumped Di2, Ethirteen carbon wheels, Fox Factory suspension and are still shipping it with a woeful battery compared to the competition, seems to me that the Pro Race mullet option is the better value bike, but, 52lbs FFS!
  • 4 0
 Woeful? It's bigger than the spec Shimano one.
  • 1 0
 @SoDiezl350: woeful compared to the competition, YT, at the original launch, said a larger capacity battery would be available soon, if they had originally opted for the shimano battery rather than developing their own they could now have a shimano 635wh battery in their new 29er.
  • 1 0
 @SoDiezl350: They're also developing a 700wh battery. Comparing the 540wh to a Bosch 500wh the extra 40 does make a difference.
  • 1 0
 Went riding the other day, some guys were green landing, one was riding up a steepish bank, he stalled, I laughed and said " that was embarrassing" , to which his friend replied " I'd like to see you do it ".
True story, if I had a ebike I could have sent that slope.
  • 2 0
 3 -4 kg heavier than a lappiere e zesty and still testers did not like the zesty . i think i am not ready for a fullblown ebike yet
  • 6 2
 I had high expectations for my decoy and they were easily met and exceeded. Even with the base model running a turd-ish monarch rear shock. I was a bit worried about how progressive it is because my last bike was quite linear. But its an absolute beast. The weight isnt even a negative in my eyes. After only 100 hours on it, i can already send the same amount of sketch/jumps i can on my pedal bike. Just 3 times as many laps now
  • 2 0
 @adamlaycock: thank you. That should help dispel some of the myths.
  • 4 1
 Wait, did I just read the Head Tube Angle got... Steeper?!?!
  • 1 1
 29ers generally have a steeper head angle than 650b.
  • 1 3
 @rsbromley: Uh wat. Maybe 5 years ago, but that is just not true.
  • 1 0
 Dylan stark is already out there doing mini flips on his YT ebike. In the right hands these things can do some crazy stuff.
  • 1 0
 I’m waiting for the Ibis ebike to drop before I decide on a bike. Also SC may have something in the works .
  • 3 2
 2020 and no bottle holders? I always get thirsty, sitting around doing nothing.
  • 1 1
 I took a nap on my ebike the other day. 30 miles and I felt so rested.
  • 1 0
 Shimano instead of a Bosch motor? I don’t get why would a German company would not use a German motor if it’s better?
  • 1 0
 Except for the blinged-out-top-level-spec from any brand, no factory bike brand is choosing components based on superior performance. It's whatever is the best OEM deal that improves profit margins. Shimano probably gave them the better deal.
  • 2 1
 Love ebikes but still hate wagon wheels. I guess we all embrace different "advances"
  • 1 0
 "Homeboy climbing that near impossible switchback...
like damn hes init. more like damn his battery 'bout dead
  • 1 0
 That downtube and motor integration is so much like Levo gen1. Do like the best but 4 years later.
  • 1 0
 Whe ebikes have more conservative geometry compared to enduro?
Almost all ebikes have shorter reach, etc?
  • 2 1
 Almost got me, YT. Touche.
  • 2 1
 Stand over gets lower as the bikes get longer?
  • 1 1
 Yes, it always does. The point where this is measured, wanders backwards the bigger the frame size is, so the top tube is lower the larger the bike gets. This only applies to frames with a sloping top tube, of course.
  • 2 1
 So basically they decided that the meta power 29 geometry was best
  • 2 1
 52 lbs, weighs almost as much as a tues.
  • 3 2
 Looks amazing. My next ride Smile
  • 1 0
 So is the mullet Decoy not so good?
  • 2 0
 No, just more of an enduro build.
  • 2 1
 This Decoy isn’t fooling anyone.
  • 1 1
 it annoys me that the decoy actually looks like something i'd be happy to ride out in public.
  • 2 1
 Not a car
  • 2 2
 Decoy PRO 29 good for me but too much weight with battery 540Wh | 36V...
  • 6 2
 That Shimano motor is pretty outdated compared to what their competition is using
  • 4 0
 Compared to which cutting edge technology are you referring to? Outdated? Really? If you are referring to Bosch for example, it's nosier and has been less reliable (lots of firmware issues), and Compared to Specialized using the Brose motor; it's been snapping belts like crazy. (just speak with any Specialized dealer). So I'm interested in which motor you feel is such much superior?
  • 1 0
 @westcoastslacker: perfectly said
  • 1 3
 Looks pretty good. I think companies are going to have to beef up their forks for e-bikes. 36mm stanchions just don't seem supportive enough for the weight of the e-bikes.
  • 6 2
 its only 20lbs extra. Pretty insignificant when you consider rider weights vary by around 100lbs no problem.
  • 1 2
 @mobaar: True, but if you ride hard, you are putting a lot more force on the fork and the fork can be super divey with not enough support. It is like putting a 32mm stanchion fork on an enduro or DH bike.
  • 3 1
 To be fair when an average bike and rider can weigh between 200 and 270lbs in total, is an extra 20lbs of motor and battery really going to have that big of an effect on stiffness? Yes ebikes are heavy compared to regular bikes but once a rider is sat on it, the increased weight is at most 10%.
  • 1 2
 @petehaddock: If you ride hard, jump, and hit drops, it is a totally different ball game. Would you put a 32mm stanchion fork on your enduro or DH bike?
  • 4 1
 @tacklingdummy: your totally missing the point here. Imagine you weighed 200lbs and bought a used regular non e-bike with 36mm forks. If the guy you bought the bike from weighed 180lbs would you be worried the forks would be too flexy?
  • 7 1
 @petehaddock: You better pump the brakes, guy. Math is strictly forbidden on Pinkbike.
  • 1 6
flag tacklingdummy (Jan 30, 2020 at 11:37) (Below Threshold)
 @petehaddock: You are not getting the point either. Again, would you put a 32mm stanchion fork on an enduro or DH bike? You wouldn't. So, I know you are just trolling propaganda. Lol.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: most are e bike rated.
  • 2 1
 i had a stinky that weighed the same and my forks never snapped
  • 1 0
 Wow, the mob squads are sure pouring it on thick today.
  • 3 1
 @tacklingdummy: Look. You're right. No one in their right mind would put a 32 on an enduro or DH rig (these days). The problem with your argument is that this bike has a 36, which is exactly what you put on an enduro bike, and even with the extra frame weight the system is still within the fork's normal working range for the majority of riders.
  • 1 0
 Laneing *
  • 6 9
 E Bike diet= Beers, Burritos and Buds.........sounds like a blast to me......love all the haters!
  • 11 18
flag ybsurf (Jan 30, 2020 at 7:50) (Below Threshold)
 E bike results= obesity, heart disease and diabetes. Gotta love it.
  • 25 3
 @ybsurf: I rode an ebike a couple months ago...I got way more leg burn and raised heart rate than I expected, and it turned a really boring, tedious trail into way more fun! So, the idea that these bikes encourage poor health is just wrong. And just because someone rides a normal pedal bike doesn't automatically mean they're actually breaking a sweat either
  • 5 1
 @ybsurf: www.pinkbike.com/photo/18228990
Avg hr:145bmp
Max hr: 194 bmp
  • 6 0
 @ybsurf: That's entirely false. There's data out there now that absolutely refutes that plus every shop that sells e-bikes has a story of someone buying an e-bike and losing a bunch of weight because they're actually getting out and riding the damn thing. One of our customers lost 80lbs because he went from riding his road bike occasionally and not really digging it to riding his e-bike literally every day and loving life.
  • 1 1
 @ybsurf: pushing hard on a regular bike actually caused my heart condition. Do your homework.
Complete ass hat comment.
  • 1 0
 @platnum: are you sure is not your bite doing harm to your heart? Seriously
  • 1 0
 *diet
  • 1 0
 @GlassGuy: my reply was a out the original one than you can eat like shit and expect that you can still ride and everything will be fine.
  • 5 7
 Looks like a YZ
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