YT Releases Shred Spec Aluminium Capra & Decoy

Jun 26, 2020
by YT Industries  
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Press Release: YT Industries

YT has reacted to the calls for high-performance spec’d aluminum bikes and coil shocks by releasing two new beasts. The Capra and Decoy Shred models raise the bar for enduro rigs this year boasting the newest suspension technology by Fox. Both bikes cater to the needs of true shredders and big hitters.

bigquotesWe are super stoked to launch these two enduro machines! We have a burning passion for gravity riding and can’t wait to send these beasts through bike parks, over trails and big hits. After releasing limited versions of the Capra in the past two years, it was time to include a high-performance aluminum model within our regular range again. We also saw the need to offer a ‘coil version’ of the Decoy. Both the Capra Shred and Decoy Shred will let you rule the trails.Markus Flossmann, CEO YT Industries

Capra Shred – A full-metal beast with FOX 38 & GX Eagle 52T

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YT’s Capra is a highly recognized enduro machine and an absolute beast on the gnarliest of trails. With the Shred edition, YT brings an additional aluminum version to the YT Family with two wheel sizes. The beautifully designed aluminum frame comes is sizes S-XXL with a 27.5’’ wheelset and sizes M-XXL with a 29’’ wheelset. The unique geometry of the Capra ensures efficient climbing capabilities with outstanding downhill prowess. The long reach and slack head angle guarantee an adrenaline-driven ride, while the seat tube angle provides a balanced position on the bike.

For even more versatility, the Flip Chip lets those riding the 29er to adjust the BB height as well as the head angle and seat tube angle by 0.5 degrees. YT’s newest addition to the portfolio boasts the new Fox 38 Float Performance fork with 180 mm / 170 mm worth of front travel and the new Fox Float DHX2 Performance Elite coil shock in the rear (180 mm /170 mm). The new SRAM GX Eagle 52T drivetrain ensures precise gear changing and even more efficient uphill characteristics allowing to save energy for the descent that follows. The full-enduro package is rounded off by the ‘YT Postman’ dropper post and a gravity-greedy E13 cockpit, and an LG1 EN wheelset paired with Maxxis Assegai (EXO) tire in the front for maximum confidence and fast-rolling Minion DHR II (EXO+) in the rear.

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bigquotesCapra and Decoy are two of our most exciting and popular bikes. They really reflect the spirit of YT, the kind of people we are, and the kind of riding many of us like to do. Both are great bikes today, but we wanted to take these two bikes and give them something even more. So, we added an extra-large dose of fun and capability. We added more Shred to the Capra and Decoy. Bikes that already had plenty, now have even more. If aggressive riding, pushing your limits, rough terrain and having a ton of fun are your priorities, then you want to shred. Go shred.Chris Hilton, CTO YT Industries

Decoy Shred – Go full send with a Fox 38 and new coil shock

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YT Industries is extending its E-mtb portfolio with the hybrid-framed Decoy Shred. This enduro bike with a built-in shuttle boasts an aggressive geometry with a carbon front and aluminum rear triangle. YT’s award-winning E-mtb with its uncaged gravity genes offers high-performance components and the latest Fox suspension technology that is more than capable of doing the heavy lifting when navigating through highly technical terrain on both the uphill and the downhill. Available in sizes S-XXL the Decoy Shred is powered by the 540Wh YT custom battery. The Shimano E8000 drive unit paired with 12-speed Shimano XT drivetrain guarantee you will be smiling all the way up the trails too. Thanks to 170 mm of travel on the Fox 38 Float Performance E-Bike+ fork and 165 mm of rear travel with the new Fox Float DHX2 Performance Elite coil shock, the relentless mullet bike does not take any prisoners. As is the case with the Capra Shred model, the package is completed with the ‘YT Postman’ dropper post and a gravity-greedy E13 cockpit and e*spec Plus wheelset paired with Maxxis Assegai (EXO) tire in the front for maximum confidence and fast-rolling Minion DHR II (EXO+) in the rear.

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In case you are wondering about the shredability of the Decoy in general here is a flashback (well it is Friday after all) of Ethan Nell sending a Decoy through Utah.



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  • 421 6
 "Here I am, Pinkbike Comment, posting about something I wanted to see and it is finally on the market. However, the urge to complain about something, anything, overcomes me, because it is what I must do as a member of this community. I was never going to buy this bike anyway, because my cheap ass believes no bike should cost more than a grand."

-Pinbike Comment, 1998-2020
  • 60 0
 This comment is so perfect, I can't even complain about it. My life is in shambles.
  • 12 9
 Come on!!! Be a Karen
  • 16 4
 Pshht, I have to wait 2 months to get it!? Forget it, YT will not be seeing my hard earned money that I was not going to spend.
  • 5 1
 @roma258: I think you’ll struggle at the moment with any manufacturer that doesn’t have stock, 6 week lead time on Hope wheels for example
  • 5 27
flag cuban-b (Jun 26, 2020 at 5:32) (Below Threshold)
 These are the same people who thumbs down every single comment on an article. Why bother even visiting the site?
  • 1 2
 @sewer-rat: just anticipating the complaints Smile
  • 3 0
 @Spark24 Pinkbike comment section perfectly summed up. I wish I could give you all the upvotes!
  • 15 0
 If you didn't complain, did you even comment?
  • 10 0
 They didn’t thread the bb, Someone has to take up the mantle and fight....
  • 2 0
 if you're not trashing... You're just gassing.
  • 2 1
 Shame you spelt Pinkbike as Pinbike. I'm afraid I can't upvote such sloppiness.
  • 1 0
 Still valid comment for years to come. I can't believe PinkBike was around in 1998. Was the internet around? I can't remember that far. Lol.
  • 1 0
 @roma258: you must not be shopping for a bike lately..
  • 2 1
 @roma258: My buddy sustained a crack in his Capra frame... Maybe a month old. He was told "months" for a replacement... Utter BS.
  • 5 12
flag Rokcore (Jun 26, 2020 at 10:14) (Below Threshold)
 @cky78: I contacted them about paint chipping roughly 2 months after getting the bike (these weren't in spots where rocks/etc would hard either). Their response? Go to a hobby store, we don't have touch up paint and we can't do anything for you. Won't be buying from them again
  • 15 3
 @cky78: Yeah, a little garden variety worldwide pandemic hits and they expect him to wait a couple months for an overseas replacement part for recreational goods. Screw the folks dying over there! Get them back in the factories making $2 a day ASAP! Do they not realized how entitled your friend is? lol!
  • 3 2
 @Xlr8n: those warranty issues predate the pandemic. Pretty much since YT has been shipping to the USA they’ve left customers stranded on warranty
  • 2 1
 @usedbikestuff: e.13 seems to have huge warranty wait times as well...
  • 5 0
 Since the mtb revolution and the introduction of the word 'enduro' written on everything, larger wheels, much improved geometry and the ridiculous name of 'boost' for something as whimsical as an axle spacing; we are now seeing the return of alloy frames, alloy rims, high pivots and coil springs...

Some things have stayed and others have gone full circle, any bike from 2020 onwards is now awesome, with hardly any need for upgrades off the shelf, unlike old bikes where you immediately had to drop the 70mm stem and put on wider bars and better tyres straight off the shelf.
  • 2 6
flag cuban-b (Jun 26, 2020 at 17:11) (Below Threshold)
 god dammit i miss Waki.in moments like this Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @sewer-rat: funny Santa Cruz is backordered on a bunch of their 29er models but I got a Bronson frame shipped out to me next day. #27.5snotdead #iblamethecustomers
  • 2 0
 @tacklingdummy: yah and my first account was in 2000 lol
  • 2 0
 @Xlr8n: my paint chipping issue was also prior to the pandemic as well. Their service leaves a lot to be desired
  • 1 0
 @friendlyfoe: it depends on model buddy, you won’t get a new 5010 next day, nope you’ll be waiting until end of September apparentlySalute
  • 1 0
 @sewer-rat: I could see that with a new model. Just sounds like a good excuse to get a bronson lol
  • 1 0
 @Xlr8n: do people really make quality goods, or hell ,any goods, at $ 2 a day??
  • 1 0
 @nordland071285: where? I enquired, and see average Chinese manufacturing wage, is hitting 10k $ a year..
  • 1 0
 @jjhobbs: much of Africa for example..
If you mean bicycle parts specifically though, I'm not sure sorry
  • 1 0
 LOL this is one thing I absolutely do no understand is when people complain about a bike/product they have no intention of even buying in the first place. Like dude, if you're not gonna buy it what does it matter to you?
  • 1 1
 @ThunderChunk: critisiscm is the way to perfection.
  • 81 21
 WTF - I can't believe a fecking water bottle is such a game changer these days. Less than a decade ago it was totally uncool to use a water bottle. The bike had to have totally clean lines devoid of any attachments and we all used CamelBaks to transport water, tools,tubes, food etc. Now we see water bottles are back and tubes/tools etc are strapped to the bike frame. A hydration pack seems to be uncool (OMG I might get a sweaty back) even though it's probably the most practical way ever to carry everything you need on a ride. Vanity/fashion be damned - if the YT is a great bike - buy it and carry your precious water another way.
  • 33 45
flag zyoungson (Jun 26, 2020 at 5:34) (Below Threshold)
 Camelbaks are absolute balls. ditching one is the best thing you will do
  • 23 1
 @zyoungson: mine has saved me from some extra carnage once or twice, though...
  • 28 22
 If you've been riding long enough hip packs were actually in before they were out again. You cannot compare riding with a pack to without. Its not just about sweaty backs. The position you're in on a bike and the movement you need in all directions are ludicrously restricted if you are wearing a pack. Sometimes there's no other option if you're out for an epic but it still makes you realise how much better it is without.
  • 8 3
 @zyoungson: I like being able to carry a bottle on the frame too, but rarely is 0.75 liters of water enough for my rides, so what do you do then? Do you never ride for more than 2 hours?
  • 10 2
 @zyoungson: I got a hip pack and it has been the best thing ever
  • 9 2
 @thegoodflow: I use one bottle on the bike and one bottle in the back of my bibs. It’s enough for 2-3 hours in hotter weather. I’m seeing more riders filtering water at the creeks. Water filters are pretty small and light these days.
  • 5 7
 Hydration packs are heavy. Longer TT means your back gets tired faster anyway. Getting less sweaty and tired.is such a horrible thing to want.
  • 9 3
 I'm in the camp of making bike light/nimble and use a hydration pack. I'd much rather have the weight of carrying water and essentials on my shoulders as I don't notice it compared to a hip pack that fills like a cinch squeezing my stomach.
  • 6 0
 @Macc10: I remember hip packs being cool circa 1993...when I was lucky/unlucky enough to have a Cannondale Delta V1000...quite an upgrade from my Raleigh Lizard Smile
  • 33 1
 @Macc10: Movement ludicrously restricted? Good gravy, man, what pack are you wearing, and what kind of gymnastics are you doing on your bike?
  • 1 0
 @tacklingdummy:

The only thing is, that it doesn't, not even the cheap ones like I have; I am currently using it for most of my 1 day rides and just use a xc-ish shirt with back-pockets if I don't have enough space on the hip-pack or on the bike/pockets of my pants.
The hip-pocket was 9-10 USD, so a cheap chinese one, nothing fancy, nothing technical.

I use it and leave home any of the 3 ones I currently have(a big one for 2 day trips, one for enduro racing or riding(light as a feather with 2.3 liters of hydratation pack and enough pockets for everything I might need) - good for half a day/1 day trips and one that should be used for xc or road riding(very-very light and small). Being Camelbak's, they've costed a lot of money; ...and I let them all home and take when I go out for a day's ride the cheap ass chinese hip-pack.
  • 6 1
 Easy gentleman- No one is saying anyone has to wear backpacks or that everyone must stop wearing backpacks. If it works for you then kudos! Keep it up. As for me, switching from wearing a pack has been enjoyable. I have a small bottle on the frame and for longer rides have a hip pack that holds another and some snacks but usually stays hung up in the gear room. For my needs it works great and I would prefer not to wear a backpack. If you love the backpack than continue doing so- nobody is telling you otherwise and many options are available. Those arguing that the backpack provides extra protection that has saved your spine... you know most aren't designed for that right? The Evoc's obviously are the exception and if you want real back protection there are vests out there that actually do the thing right.
  • 4 0
 @spaced: "Longer TT means your back gets tired faster.."? Says who? All depends on the rider, stem length, riding style, etc.
  • 2 0
 @bman33: And core strength. Get out there and do some planks, people! Top tubes are getting longer!
  • 3 0
 @TheR: Reach is getting longer, tt are generally getting shorter with the steepening sta. Too long of a tt will give you a sore back.
  • 3 2
 @tacklingdummy:
I never understood the “keep the weight on your body and off the bike” mantra. The bike is still carrying the weight! Also, have you ever realized how much standing you do on a mountain bike? With the weight on your back/hip, every time you get up out of the saddle, you are lifting those extra pounds (kilos?). If the water and tools are strapped to the frame, the bike supports the weight. Anyway, that’s my rant for the day
  • 2 0
 If I'm trying to lose weight should I use all three?
  • 3 0
 @Warburrito: Yes, all three at the same time for best results... Wait I misunderstood. Nevermind
  • 2 1
 I feel it is easier to control weight strapped to my body than weight strapped to my bike. I suppose it depends on your style of course. If you ride as a passenger then indeed strap your weight to the bike. If your body is kind of the center of where things have to go in flight then you want to force the bike in the proper direction and the added weight of the pack to your body only gives you more authority. But yeah, both options are readily available. If you want room for a bottle, get a bike that offers that. If you don't need it and want a more compact front triangle or the suspension design would be compromised if it needed to be tweaked to fit a bottle, then room for a bottle just drops lower on the list of priorities.
  • 4 0
 @vinay: yeah to each their own. I never notice a difference of agility by having a tube and pump on my bike. Maybe I’m the only one not tail-whipping 40 foot doubles
  • 2 1
 @carlitouk: hip pack??, looks like you've been Mandela effected, the 80,s I was from thay were called bum bags...
  • 1 1
 @Jibofo: Try it with both methods, but make sure it is the same weight (water, tools). I have tested with weight on bike and weight on body several times over the years. I was much faster with weight on body than on the bike over non-stop one to two hour rides. Of course it was on the climbs, but also the bike is much more nimble without the weight. However, heavier bikes are more stable on technical downhills.
  • 1 0
 On small rides where I only need to carry water, id much rather have a bottle mount than carry a bag just for the water
  • 1 0
 Poppycock
  • 2 2
 @Jibofo: Bikes are more stable in the air when loaded anyway, I try to run a full bottle & gear on the bike even when doing shuttles or sessioning jumps. Also have a bike with a carbon frame and swat box crammed with junk I literally never use, just to get some weight down near the bb and settle the bike down. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a light frame, but hey, next one will be alloy.
  • 3 0
 I ride with a pack for three reasons. I have the flexibility to put whatever I need in it. I have multiple bikes so when I switch to another bike I still have everything I need. And lastly I'm not strapping stuff to my bike that will fall off or mar the finish. I used to ride with a seat pack but it didn't work with my dropper and it made noise. Whatever makes you happy when you ride, but I love me some pack.
  • 1 0
 @theberminator: I was keeping the naming "international" Wink Yep, they were bum bags for me too...not sure if that is better or worse than fanny packs...
  • 1 0
 @theberminator: points for Mandela reference! For me it was, and forever shall be, fanny pack.
  • 41 3
 This is a pretty good example of how the prices increased over the years.
My 2016 Capra AL Comp was 2.8k € and came with a Lyrik RCT3, Monarch Plus RT3, full Sram GX, Race Face Atlas Cockpit etc.
Now, you pay 3.5k € and you don't have top of the line suspension (no performance elite 3Cool .
  • 16 0
 Agreed....My Capra LTD was 3500 but had fox factory suspension, seat post, Renthal bars/stem and Code RSC brakes. That was only 18 months ago.
  • 3 0
 @mikepal: 29 version was 7-9 months ago
  • 3 0
 I got the 2015 capra cf comp, carbon frame, with high end Rock shox suspension, a decent wheelset, and X1 drivetrain...
5 years later, almost same price for a gx spec, with this "Grip" damper upfront, what a shame
  • 3 1
 I concur. There is still a difference between direct sales brands and conventional brands, but it's going from a huge gap to a minor gap. Sure, brands like Trek, Specialized or Cannondale are still a big step up in prices, but value brands like Giant and Cube are closing the gap.

Comparing MSRP's is only half of the story. If you have a good relation with your LBS, they give a discount between 5% - 10% or they give you some freebies like accessories, maybe a free first tune up. Add all of those things up and a YT or Canyon isn't the deal of lifetime anymore, now it's just a deal.
  • 33 4
 I love the idea, too bad they can't fit a waterbottle.

Also, (official) slogan: Shred everything
yt: speccs EXO tires
me: facepalm

shred everything that cointains no rocks and sharp objects and don't pick up too much speed or the lack of sidewall support will scare you shitless in corners.
  • 5 0
 not to mention they put it in the same sentence with "maximum confidence"
  • 10 0
 Technically, they aren't lying. Those tires will be shredding all over.
  • 4 0
 I'm light, so I could just about live with the exo front. But exo+ rear? Far too flimsy. When you've got the extra weight of a coil shock, who cares about grams? For what's effectively a mini-DH bike, at least DD, and preferably a DH casing
  • 32 4
 This should've come with slx and performance elite fork.
  • 6 0
 need grip2 damper
  • 14 3
 Yesterday (my 61st birthday), I rode the Cottonwood loop in Salida, Colorado on EXO casings. The downhill sections are incredible. I did not feel that my properly inflated tires lacked support. They shrugged off copious rocks. I weigh 220 lbs, but I guess I don;t ride as hard a lot of PBers. However,,I was glad to be rolling EXO casings on the 6 mile, 2,000' fire road climb.
  • 10 0
 Happy Birthday!
  • 2 1
 I too think exo casings are really good for the price, but i dont hammer, i try more to float... anyways on a coil equipped shred bike for bikeparks And hard enduro i think they should go for double down
  • 1 0
 I meant for the weight, not price
  • 1 0
 Cottonwood is such an awesome ride, the Roomba trail at the beginning is especially fun! I agree, with all of the rock smashing I do in Colorado I have only ever had one pinch flat with an EXO casing and it was totally my fault and it would have flatted any tire. I am 6'4 200
  • 1 0
 Damn. I struggle climbing that much and I'm half your age. Nice work!
  • 7 0
 I will come back later for the complainants for giving what PB commenters have been asking for
  • 11 2
 yt gets it..
  • 1 6
flag rad8 (Jun 26, 2020 at 13:24) (Below Threshold)
 as shown by the tire spec. DHF / DHR front/rear is silly. They could have even gone Assegai/DHF to be really cool
  • 7 1
 There seem to be a lot of pussies worrying about pedalling a couple of extra pounds up the hill. You get used to it in a week or so.
  • 5 2
 My Capra is 35+ lbs. I absolutely smoke my friends on their carbon super bikes. Heavier bike just means stronger legs.
  • 3 0
 Nice, a full travel aluminum 170/170mm Capra at a decent price we can buy whenever we want. (once available that is)
I like it.

But... still no frame only option so I can build my spec and why so conservative on the HA and SA? That’s very disappointing. Make the HA 63 and SA 77-78 like the new Commencal bikes and I would have found my new shuttle/park bike.
  • 3 2
 Honest question. Why do you want such a steep seat tube angle for park and shuttles? Seems like seat tube angle is pretty irrelevant at that point
  • 2 0
 @iantmcg: 63 head angle for the park and 77-78 SA for the shuttle ares. Unfortunately shuttle areas here that claim to have "DH Trails" also have long quad/fire road climbs or pedal-e bits in between the actual DH portions of trail. So the aggressive angles on the Commie 29 bikes would suite my needs better for both areas. However Commie only went 160mm out back on the 29er version so I didn't jump one one. Waiting to see what the Clash looks like next week. May have to go mullet as I am a big wheel fan now.

As far as the E-bike. With all the uphill grade reversal and short fall line trail building going on today I'm looking at going E-bike for my pedal up and around needs. If the new Meta Power 29 has the angles of the regular Meta, new Shimano motor, 38 fork and maybe even a little lighter I'm all in. The new Decoy here looks good but I don't do back packs, fanny packs or preparatory batteries.
  • 1 0
 @shredb4dead: does the steeper seat tube angle matter for fire road grinds? I’m still on a relatively slack seat tube, so just curious as to what the steep seat tube hype is all about. I kind of like the slack STA when I get tried and lazy and sit down ride the flatter parts of trails
  • 1 0
 @iantmcg: I'm just over 6' tall so the steeper SA is better when my 210mm One Up dropper is at full mast. I don't want to be way back over my rear tire. Especially when the up is 30% grade steep, loose gravel or techy. Fire roads are not as bad as they are usually packed in where the vehicles have been. However my last 3 bikes have been 74, 75 and now 76 SA. Each time the angle has gotten steeper my pedal position has gotten better. If people are somewhere under 6' tall it probably doesn't matter as much. A short dropper at full mast won't be back as far.

I'm I picky? Yes.
However at $6000 to $8000 CAD per bike I expect to get exactly what I want.
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 @shredb4dead: yeah I get why being closer to centered between the wheels has advantages. Just think there is possibly a slight trade off for folks like me that get tired and lazy and seated ride bits of trail. Seems Nice to be a bit further back when seated riding over a couple smaller roots or rocks, wouldn’t it be?
  • 2 0
 I expect them to release the next gen Capra next season. This is year 3 on the current frame design so the geo reflects that.
  • 1 0
 @danielomeara: Exactly.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the bike. It's great aluminium is a regular option now. I was just hoping for full on 29er travel like this one and more aggressive angles like the Commie bikes.
  • 1 0
 @danielomeara: Because as a species our riding ability obviously advances past whatever the geometry was three years ago...lol
When will geometry design ever catch up to the point it will no longer be considered "dated" in three short years? Grim donut?
  • 3 0
 @iantmcg: for gripping the seat and throwing big suicides !
  • 2 0
 @Xlr8n: I'm 6'6. The longer reach and steeper seat tube angles that new bikes are getting are fantastic for us tall folk.
  • 4 0
 I speak for all current YT Decoy owners when I ask: Where's my 700Wh battery?

The Decoy is awesome and this confirms that a coil would work well with the suspension. Let us spend more time riding it!
  • 2 0
 Shimano does not offer a 700wh battery. Simple as that
  • 1 0
 @DatCurryGuy: YT doesn't spec Shimano batteries, they make their own. And when the Decoy was released, it was widely reported that 700W batteries would be availabe in early 2020.
  • 6 0
 Cool! I personally think this is brilliant, but what do I know
  • 5 3
 The Capra really is an amazing park and all mountain bike. Been running the 27 CF Pro for two years now and not once did I miss the extra travel a downhill spec would offer. Plus it's very playful and constantly demands for more air.
  • 2 0
 Agree 100%. I dont miss my DH bike and I dont want a trail bike now I have my Capra. So much to be said for riding the same bike on everything.
  • 1 0
 Agreed as well. I have a 2015 Capra Al, put a 180mm X Fusion Metric on it and have a 70mm stroke Rockshox coil on the back to give me 171mm travel. Head angle is now 64 degrees and seat angle is still around 76 which I can deal with. Slow trails are a bit cumbersome but anything gnarly and it eats it up. Took it down Mountain of Hell last year!
  • 6 0
 They delivered what the masses wanted, but Jeffsy Shred?
  • 2 0
 I'd be curious to see some reviews of the Capra. On the one hand, it's a big hitter aluminum bike with solid components that everyone claims they want. But man that's a lot of weight to lug around and supposedly Capras don't pedal super great to begin with?
  • 4 0
 My 2018 Capra29 AL pedals pretty well actually.
  • 1 0
 @jojotherider1977: it's an intriguing package, which is why I'd like to see a review. Park bike/shuttle sled, or does it have some wider appeal? Like, would I die if I tried to race an enduro on it?
  • 5 0
 I did a couple hour ride with someone who was on a Capra coil (was his sponsored brother's bike.. so older Capra with a coil, may have been one off) and his friend on the sponsored guy's decoy. Basically they grabbed what was on hand.

The Capra could climb anything my trail bike could and could smash stuff I was unwilling to do on my bike. Caveat being the rider is an avid roadie (has legs) and he raced MTB as a kid with his brother. We did a technical climb very few can clean and anything he didn't get first time he sessioned until he did. Would it work for everyone? Probably not. But it definitely could climb.

Funny thing is his only complaint was the lack of water bottle. He was eyeing up my hip pack.

The Decoy climbed impossible things. It's silly. Made me actually interested in an ebike. Trails I'd never ride in reverse become a possibility. If ebikes take off we're going to need whole new classes of trails with insane uphill tech. Good riders are going to demand it.
  • 6 1
 @eh-steve: my decoy is stupid fun. i absolutely hate climbing but can't resist a smile smashing up a hill in boost. more smiles per mile that any other bike ive owned
  • 7 0
 I have only one bike and its a Capra. I take it on 4 hour rides once a week, to the jumps and it does DH all summer long. Its a little bit worse to pedal than other bikes but not so bad that I want to pay the same again for a trail bike or a DH bike. The difference is less than every says it is. I sense most people make a deal of the difference to justify having more bikes:-)
  • 3 0
 @cptstoney: i bet. This guy was having silly fun going up absurd things like rock rolls and boulders.

The other day I was gassed on a climb and missing stuff I can normally clear. Even eco mode would have gone a long way to save me. I was definitely someone super skeptical of ebikes. I saw no extra trail damage despite the stunts. Of course we're talking rocky rooted BC trails. Anything prone to damage is already armoured by the builders to avoid issues of wet riding.
  • 3 0
 @eh-steve: It will become like dirt bikes where the up hills are the where the fun is at. As a rider of both dirt bikes and pedal only bikes I wonder where I would have the most fun, a 50lb bike with 2kw or a 100lb bike with 15kw? My dirt bike is 200lb with 37kw and heavens knows that thing can rip your arms off.
  • 3 0
 I have an Ali Capra and they are sluggish compared to the previous generation, the first week of riding and I was convinced I had the wrong bike. After 2 weeks of riding it I got fitter and realised it was my fat ass slowing me down. The truth is it's a bike that needs pushing, it's not a lively beast and it's not meant to be. The bike performs better on big fast choppy stuff than twisty technical stuff. I don't regret buying it, it has made me work a bit harder on the climbs but get it rolling and it soaks up the hits, loves the jumps and you can sit back and hang on to things I would normally brake-shit-myself on. NOT a lively trail bike but if you want to progress on jumps and drops it's your friend.
  • 1 0
 @Steventux: well put. It’s a pig on the ups, but still gets up eventually. It’s slow on undulations, but get through.
On the downs, just wow. It does not get much better. No more shit the bed moments. Finding oneself hitting blind chop and rocks at much too high a speed, it gives you a massive margin for error. It jumps like a dream. You can hit berms at full whack sitting down and the back end just takes it and holds the line. Solid Af.
  • 1 0
 @roma258: just to elaborate...

I ride mine in high mode and I think that makes it a more versatile bike. It pedals really well if you ask me. For setup I am still running the e13 cassette with a 28t ring up front. Assegai 2.5 up front (exo+) and DHRii 2.4 (exo) out back. I also have a Megneg air can. While not recommended for high progressive bikes(i.e. Capra), I am enjoying it a lot. A friend of mine has a bc edition instinct from 2018 and he borrowed my capra while his was in the shop. He said it was a very lively bike in that it pedals and pops better than his Instinct. Yesterday on a ride I was leading a 1h15m 4.5mi climb with 2k feet of elevation.

I rode the bike for a couple days in low mode earlier this year. I was quite surprised by how slow it felt on the climbs. I was working harder than I expected. Going back to high mode I don't feel like I lost much in descending, but feel like I gained a lot more in climbing and handling ability.
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 "and fast-rolling Minion DHR II (EXO+) in the rear."

I have never found a DHR II to be fast rolling, what are they comparing it to a DD Assegai?
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 "The unique geometry of the Capra ensures efficient climbing capabilities"

That's not what I think when I see my capra riding friends bobbing next to me. better have a climb switch.
  • 2 2
 I have no climb switch on mine and have zero issues. That being said, all Capra's are not created equal. A 29er in high chip setting will likely climb better than a 27.5.
  • 2 0
 The float X2 stiffy switch isn't bad, but bobbier than the monarch that was on the older ones.
  • 1 0
 I long thought I'd waited for 2021 for the decoy mullet to get fox 38 grip 2 and 220 brakes. Instead, I got super excited yesterday when I got the email from YT. I wish I could like it and buy it, but I cannot. Sorry YT. I love my Capra
  • 1 0
 Not the most reinforced tires, but they might still last. They are worth a try. It's very strange though, that they are lighter and less reinforced than the ones on the regular editions of the Capra, the LG1 EN Race, which are comparable to a DD casing... These are more trail/enduro and the others more enduro/dh...
  • 1 0
 @YT can you please make a rear shock mounting bolt for the back end of the shock that doesn’t bend after a couple of rides.

Please also get some of your rear shock mounting bolts in stock so I can get a replacement for my bent one.

Please also consider selling these bolts in boxes of ten or 20, because it seems like a weak spot that will keep failing. Economies of scale would be of benefit to owners.

Many thanks
  • 1 0
 Decoy looks interesting. But not a significant price difference from an Intense Tazer which has a full carbon frame and proven super plush suspension linkage. And so far these YTs seem to have cracking and warranty replacement issues.

But has anyone ridden both and can share some experiences?
  • 1 0
 Is the 180mm fox 38 the same a to c length and the 36? If not why is the geometry charts not revised to explain this. Plus I thought the 65 degree head angle was for the 170mm fork
  • 1 0
 I think you are correct that the 65 deg is for the 170 mm 27.5 capras (2018 and 2019). With 180 mm forks (2018 and 19 pro race versions), it gets about 64.5 head angle I believe.
  • 2 2
 I really dont understand all the people wanting to add extra weight to their bike (e.g. strapping bottles and tools to the frame). you spent good money to have a light bike, why F that up by adding an extra 5lbs?!?!? carry that shit on your body where it belongs.
  • 1 0
 Capras ain’t light yo!
  • 1 0
 Much prefer everything I can to be on the bike than on my back, especially when I just want to grab the bike and go knowing everything is already on there.
  • 3 0
 I guess this is the last squeeze out of the current Capra frame and that we will see a new frame coming winter.
  • 2 2
 Shaddap about the goddam water bottle FFS! get a different bike.should be more concerned about the overweight 3 year old geo bike really for park not enduro with lower grade parts for more money than when it came out in 2018. Still a bangin ride though.
  • 1 0
 Ya think there is a reason things get more expensive over time.?
  • 1 0
 Wow judging by all the water bottle comments that Grim Donut is looking pretty hot now with it’s 3 mounts! They better produce it before it’s too late!
  • 1 2
 Ultimate Park bike with Eagle52 on it.... Ya going to pedal up instead of taking the lift? Would've loved the "Shred" edition of the bike to come with GXDH and a straight post and factory fork, ya know for the park.... where you don't need a dropper or 12 gears. Just my swiss franks
  • 1 0
 Seems most folks like to comment on how a bike will ride when they've never ridden one...should be a PB prerequisite before clicking 'submit'...
  • 2 0
 Bike is definitely a beast. From video you can see it a bit heavy for shred he does Yt going in right direction
  • 1 1
 I like YT, but their supply chain issues are a joke. Cancelled orders with them and went and bought another brand. If you are listening YT, hire a supply chain manager, now. It will be worth it.
  • 1 0
 This is awesome! I really think more All Mountain/Enduro bikes should come spec's with coils, especially now they are getting lighter can have climbing switches
  • 3 0
 I want that decoy so much
  • 1 0
 how heavy are they trying to make the bike. Given the stories coming out about the 38 CSU creaking seems all that extra weight is doing fuck all
  • 3 1
 3500 usd, wasn't in the article
  • 2 0
 Always thirsty work looking at YT’s
  • 1 0
 An mtb company that listens to the consumers' wants instead of pushing only their higher end products? WEIRD!
  • 1 0
 Sooooo....

Whos got a Shred? This bike and specs look killer. I'm about ready to pull the trigger
  • 2 1
 Maybe this is the ultimate park bike?
  • 2 1
 Put a few decoys out there, the ducks will appear......
  • 3 2
 Marketing at its greatest
  • 1 0
 Woah, Decoy grew a mullet!
  • 2 0
 Achtung! Love it.
  • 1 0
 When will they release the one with the E9000 motor ?
  • 4 0
 Or the 700 battery that was promised over a year ago
  • 1 0
 @tcmtnbikr: YT told me they do not have info on the 2021 release . Whatever the mat means .
  • 1 0
 180/180 is an enduro bike?
  • 1 0
 Only brand that aren't pansies at manufacturing xxl sized bikes
  • 2 1
 True FR!
  • 2 1
 that's a big bike 8|
  • 2 3
 Old design with almost non-contemporary geometry(new a couple of years ago); it is time for a new one.
  • 1 1
 Or you could just get an Orange
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 No bottle cage, no purchase
  • 1 1
 Fair style from Ethan
  • 2 0
 Nell sounded such a decent fella on the DT podcast last week. I'll be cheering him on come Rampage.
  • 3 5
 True do it all bike!
  • 5 1
 Assuming your speaking of the Capra? I'd have to disagree, too big and heavy to be a fast trail bike. It could "do it" but it would kinda suck to lug that thing around on a 25mile+ ride.
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