Some changes since this photo was taken, the white 2013 now has a white Azonic bar & the black 2004 has an SDG ti-railed seat in black/gold and a black/gold NS bar & stem combo. Still working on the wheels for the '13. Different saddle on the '13 also, white & purple job to go with the decor. The white one is the freeride machine, the black is more a lightweight all mountain playbike. They're constantly evolving. Got an AirO frame too now so watch this space......