yeh its an 02 thanks

 thanks man. yer it is. the guy who had it before me is kinda my boss and we work in a bikeshop so i know its been looked after well. il look out for you man. if you see me cum and say hi

 hurry up n get it dude. i want a freeriding buddy XD and ta

 not weighed it yet. the shivers are amazing and still lighter than 888's! i havnt weighed it yet but im guessing its close to 40lbs. it was around 40 with 24seven superfats so i saved quite alot of weight ther.

 fairplay man- thats a tank

 dont mean to be argumentative but 888's weigh 3.17kgs and shivers weigh 3.95kgs, the only advantage shiver has to 888 is that the suspension reacts quicker over small bumps because the travel is at the bottom, 888 are stiffer and lighter forks. but at the time shivers were the business

 yeh i know new 888's are but not old 888's

 that weight is based on the 2004 888's, the new 888's are even lighter if you get the ATA ones, believe me back in 2004 i had shivers on my foes and i changed to what were newly released 888's at the time, lot lighter and stiffer than shivers coz of the extra crown

 oh ok then either way there both not light

 well yer very true, dont think dh bikes will ever totally be able to be called light lol dh tracks seem to be gettin a lot more of the small bumps now tho, so the return of shiver may well happen, manitou are bringing back the dorado

 so do i im thinking about getting it sent off to orange as theyle paint it and replace all bearings for 175 quid. orange orange anyone

 Thats why you got it haha

175, not to bad for a proper paint job and bearings i guess, orange orange would be sweet, or get something unique like florescent yellow

 they only do colours that they did in 222 when it was made. so iv got teh choise of like white black grey/silver or orange and some other

 standard marzocchi intergrated stem

 thanks man

 hope ti 6 front and m4 rear

 thanks man