this one stuck to the ground like shit to carpet but pedaled like a bathtub. was great for dh, made rough stuff disapear, but utterly useless at climbing. never really worked out why, could have been any number of things...but the frame was only 8lbs so it certainly wasnt the weight. plus the whole chain roller/diverted chain thing takes a lot of setting up to get workin sweet with the chain device etc. needless to say its on the shed wall with the rest of em now...

 steel is good for everything. ali's crap.

 Hey, come on catostrophic failure for saving a few ounces isn't so bad. Haha. Steel is Real!

 hit all the usual dh/fr stuff man, myself and others have hit plenty of big gaps and drops with the dh...i was doin a 2x6m stepdown with this one an it took it fine but this frames not really made for that! good to know tho.
yeah a few have cracked around the pivot points and dropouts but no outright snaps yet...steel's pretty strong shit.

 erm no...