my 2008 cowan ds with all 09 parts:) not fully complete stuff still coming!!
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my 2008 cowan ds with all 09 parts:) not fully complete stuff still coming!!

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 What bars are those and i wish that i had the money to buy this ride too i saw it at your house and i was just like oh my god so sexy but ya the blk mrkt i threw some of my parts on and you should check it out now its in my pics
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 if you havn't noticed that most fullies have gears and not very many are single speed, i may be wrong but the distance between the BB and the rear cogs changes on a fully which is loosening and tightening the chain while being ridden so it may snap.. sorry i scrambled that paragraph together
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 im pretty sure cowans ds have the design to have that but boo hoo lol its just a chain
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 so true
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 its a single pivot frame bittre its designed to have no chain stretch through out its travel eirgo it can have a tight chain..
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 First of all, it's not a single pivot. Second of all, even if it was a single pivot, it still wouldn't be able to be run singlespeed without a dual pulley tensioner. The Cowan DS frame is a four-bar link with something called a "concentric bottom bracket," which means that the main pivot is around the bb, hence the distance between it and the axle remains the same througout its travel, negating the need for a chain tensioner. Believe me, I had the exact same frame not too long ago.
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 Seraph, actually it IS a single pivot design due to the location of the axle being on the chain stay. You are correct about the concentric bottom bracket though - the chain length is constant regardless of where the suspension is in its range of motion.
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 No, it's a 4-bar suspension design. The axle path may be the same as that of a single pivot, however it is a multi-pivot linkage.
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 The linkage is defined by the number of pivots between the frame and the axle. To consider a suspension type to be multiple pivot, more than one pivot has to affect the axle path which is not the case in the simple 4-bar design.

The 4-bar linkage that Kona uses is usually referred to as a "faux-bar" because it resembles the 4-bar Horst linkage, but is still effectively a single pivot. The only purpose of the "multiple" links is to provide more flexibility in actuating the shock. Frames like Rocky Mountain's RMX are definitely single-pivot designs, and have just as many bars and pivots as the Kona 4-bar.

That said, it is worth differentiating between a basic single pivot like the Cannondale Gemini or SC Bullit and a 4-bar linkage like Kona's because of how the shock is actuated, but it is deceiving to label it a multi-pivot when in fact it is really just a link-actuated single-pivot.

Take a look at this thread: www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=9810&pagenum=1
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 Hey I know all of this. I've been in the bike industry for 12 years. All I was saying is that it's not a stereotypical single pivot, like the aformentioned SC and Cannondale frames.

To say "single pivot design" is misleading, because in reality there is more than one pivot. "Single pivot suspension design" would be more accurate, since it relates directly to the suspension and not the frame, linkage, etc.
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 Sure man, no worries, I can't argue with that.
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 ummm so basically u all forgot u still shouldnt run such a tight chain because it means when u go through the travel the wheel will be forced to move because on compression the top of the chain will be loosened and the bottom will be tightened and on the rebound the opposite is true... try tieing a peice of string and grab both sides (because a chain cant slide past the chain teeth on a ring) and rotate one side around the other... ull instantly realize wuts going on... and it doesnt matter on the compression cus the free wheel will click but it will lock up ur suspension a bit when ur trying to rebound.
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 Yeah no that's not really a factor on bikes. Believe me I had a Cowan DS and it worked fine.
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 so so so so so so so nice
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 Hey man lush Cowan! I was thinkin of upgrading my stuff to one with argyles, but with gears. What stem is that your riding aswell ? cheers x
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 how bout this zach.... you give it too me for free...? Smile ill give you my bmx Big Grin
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 why are these bikes always goin for 2 g's nd up, i dont see whats so great.
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 Cause the parts that are on them plus how often can you get a single speed full suspension that weighs as much as a hardtail ??!? Plus have you ever riddin one?
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 nope never riddin one, i was just asking why. So do you ride ss with this thing, doesnt the chain loosen when travel is used up?
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 Nope it's designed so the chain won't loosen up and I haven't ridden it there's no need for it over hear it's just dh and bmx over here so I don't need it
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 i rode this bike today (exact 1) with the owner
id have to say this is 1 of the SMOOTHEST bikes i have ever ridden
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 my bad...what wheels are they...
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 Mavic 721
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 i had that bike sold it but whoever buys it is lucky such a nice bike
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 if i had money id buy that, i want a light freeride bike just to tool around town with
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 would u trade for a pickup
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 yo is that like a street/park full sus or somin sooo nice
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 super sick love it
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 trade for a stinky and money?
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 stinky and 1700 then suure:P
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flag jackblack111 (Apr 25, 2009 at 21:21) (Below Threshold)
 dont got 1700
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 then you dont get my bike sorry
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 really?
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 no way jk jk
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 your steertube looks bent, maybe its just the angle
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 that looks like a really solid build, most ppl hate Kona's, unfortunately, none of them can keep it to themselves...
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 insane ds... props dude. thats super cool
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 thats interesting, i didnt know the fron brake weighed that much by itself
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 i also didnt have those parts on that i have on now.. so i dunno man add 2 pounds 32-35 im guessing depends on parts
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 either way its a sick bike, congrats
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 bet you can't wait to get that dirty.
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 Veryyy slickk man .. How much have you spent on this beastt !!
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 alot over 3000 everythings brand new except the frame and argyle and 5.0 but the shock and fork are rebuilt so brand new lol and everything else is brand new
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 do you run tubeless with those 823...
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 No and those arnt 823
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 sick but y so much how much in upgrades but so damn nice
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 umm.. cowans you buy the frame.. and then i biult it up from there.. i reaserached the lightest strongest possible parts.. adn built it up ..spent alot on it and i dont wanna waste it all i just realized dj is not me.. i like downhill and big jumps i will trade for a truck Razz plus cash of coarse
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 mmm thats a delisous bike
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 cud u gimme website for this frame? pleasee
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 konaworld.com ....
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 ha oh right i looked b4 must of looked wrongSmile ty
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 they dont sell cowan ds's anywhere in the uk i dont thinkg:O
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 hmmm that sucks i dunno then
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 Nwvermind ty for help thoSmile
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 how about frame fork and pump for 400
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 so clean!
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 wats the weight?
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 30 lbs
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 thats not bad...do u know how much the derailler and front break would add?
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 well it had a front break on and it weighed around 33pound and im guessing with both it would be in the 35 range
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 I had a 31 lb Cowan DS with gears, so it's possible to build it up pretty light.
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flag audeo03 (Apr 1, 2009 at 8:11) (Below Threshold)
 re: turner661... WTF are you talking about 5lbs just for a brake and derailleur!? Get a clue.
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 re: audeo03, r u f*cking retarted? obviously u can't do math because 35 lbs- 33 lbs = 2 lbs, not 5 u idiot
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 RE: both of you, it was 33 lbs with a front brake, no derailleur, add about 2 lbs for the derailleur and shifter, you get 35 lbs.
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 ok .. lol it would be heavier because you wouldnt have that sproket and single speed hub so then thatd be a bit heavier.. and then you add the derailor and shifter .and BAM theres 2 pounds heavier or 3 or w.e the fuck it is i dunno i dont care cause i dont have that on my bike..
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flag SeejMacdonald (Apr 1, 2009 at 22:40) (Below Threshold)
 fuck you
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 Now were did you come from
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 lol...turner, you are a funny guy...lol
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 wow let mehave that bike
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 its awesome, but i dont think you should have your chain that tight since its a fully
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 explain?
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 to bittre...the pivot point is around the bb, so theres no chain growth.
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 definetly not worth 3g's
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 sooo sick
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 holy sweet jesus bitch tits. thats awesome
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 trade for 2009 dobermann?
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 No trades....
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 thats soooooooooo nice
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 or no fork
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 never
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 deity! Smile

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