Creative ingenuity. New designs like this will keep pushing our sport in interesting directions. Props to the designer and builder for not being afraid to try something completely different.
They sure did try domething different, but this is not the direction I want any bike manufacturer heading in, unless they want a massively morphing TT length and rediculous amounts of sag and butt fuck ugly looks.
This shit is just crazy, i don't what else to say apart from what a waste of time, effort and space.
@tate27 i think its some sort of way where it compresses both at same time, becuase the rear triangle is actually a triangle on normal bike with the suspension design for the coil shock (take my bike for instance,and like any other kona) the part that is like more of an upward angle is only attached to the chain stay by a pivot point, but this one has a bar that connects them, you get what i mean?
well i think i mighta figured it out just now , if u look at the linkage , the part where the seatpost goes is all on a pivot, and the shock saddle for the coil shock is on that part, and it seems like the coil shock lets the wheel go more like up , but from that it pivots the whole rear part and thats where the air shock comes it, i cant even explain it but just think about it really hard
they compress evenly from what i see. depends on the shock weights and set up if the air shock is set up as a blow off shock then it would be completely firm until the coil bottoms out then engages the stiffer air shock, or it could be set up with a lower pressure (potentially the same weight as the coil shock) so that they could compress evenly. i could be wrong but thats what i take from it. all depends on set up but id have to ride one to tell
well i knew that, thats what i meant the suspension design, but im not getting my hopes up, cuz even if a company did have this kind of design, i wouldnt buy it, too much travel, maybe if i was going for jaw drop or something... but im not gonna do that =/
yeh i posted that when i saw this bike, but it deserves some sort of dual crown at least, thats a given.. but if theres gonna be a single crown then something like a 66 or a totem if ur gonna go with rock shox..
For anybody who actually cares to look past the strength of their own ignorance: the shock mounted between the down-tube and the seat-mast is there to allow the front end more travel on a hard landing, not the rear. If you carefully pay attention to the way the frame actually works, the rear end is completely independent of the upper shock, utilizing it's own pivot points, acting in a way like Giant's suspension does, making it extremely efficient, and allowing the front end to have a massive amount of travel (if it needs it, as I'd assume the upper shock would only kick in under super heavy impacts, affording you a lot more travel).
There's an apparent paradox in design - the frame is drilled wherever possible ostensibly to save weight, but then they're running Raceface NS cranks ...
im not to fond, when that suspension compresess your cockpit is going to reduce in size and the geo is going to be one shity ass ride. not only that but its lacking some strength, the linkage looks really week.
ya so if you sit down your whole run then this is not the bike for you? the bb stays in pretty much the same place it seems to me so it would matter you just gotta keep your junk out of the way so the seat doesnt rip it off
your seat would ride in front of you threw compression stages in the suspension and your boys would dangle over the back wheel. doesnt sound to fun to me.