Trip to the alpine region near Zermatt, July 2009
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Trip to the alpine region near Zermatt, July 2009

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 POD!!!
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 VOD!!!!11!!
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 ^^ some ppl just dont get it lol
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 I think he was being sarcastic, hence the 1's...
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 wow!:O
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 I'll give the guy 100 bucks if he hucks onto the glacier Big Grin
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 VOD!!!!!!!1one
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 WOW!!!! Eek awesome pod!!
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 Epic landscape, love it, but i miss the action that makes a picture really POD.
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 Sweet, Now THIS is a good POD. i would love to go riding in a place like this.
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 VOM Blank Stare Blank Stare Big Grin Confused :Cool :Cry Eek Evil Frown lol Mad Razz Redface Wink Madder Really Mad tup Very confused Thumbs Down Attention Beer Fab Cop Fireman Nurse Army Construction Cook Native Pirate Geek Pimp Ninja Jail Emo Jailbreak Salute Helmet Batman Robin Joker Two-Face Camera Book Whip 2 cents Moon Facepalm Dead Horse Drool
  • + 35
 i wonder how forks work when they are that cold? (does fork oil freeze?)
  • + 22
 Shit balls. Not your average day ride! Not mine anyway..... Very good choice on POD. When you have scenery like this, the requirement for action in a POD takes a back seat, in my opinion at least. Great photo!
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 They actually work just fine, and no, it is petrolium-based so it can't freeze. However you need to keep your fingers warm or bye-bye braking
  • + 5
 andrew4818 the temperature on that day must have been at least +5 Celsius. It's in Swiss Alps in Summer at around 2500m over the sea level.
  • + 4
 pertty epic
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 Sweet picture!
  • + 7
 I serious ly don't know what that is
  • + 5
 that is probably the only place on the planet able to compete with Whistler as Worlds best riding spot. Fortunately though it's not as popular Smile
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 Epic, just yesterday I read an article about riding around Zermatt, and now this pic - I so want to go there Smile I wonder if the guys took the "Glacier Express" train to get to the trail head
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flag b1k3rjp (Apr 12, 2010 at 1:53) (Below Threshold)
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 ya if its cold enough i notice some stiffness in the fork... kind of like the compression is just turned up a lot
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 go mother earth! Oh and pinkbike of course Salute
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 VOD!
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 *facepalm*
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 sweet pic man, iv got a poster of a pic from there Smile
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 only a jeep could get you there, haha
sick pic Big Grin
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 that guy over there forgot Sheep
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 unreal. pod for sure.
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 thats some unreal scenary pod!
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flag Slimak (Apr 12, 2010 at 4:54) (Below Threshold)
 śmierć w oczach xdd POD
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flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 12, 2010 at 5:44) (Below Threshold)
 Slimak... parlare Inglese!
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 TIGHT!!!!!! SICK PICK!!
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 bananowy;

You don't take a train to the trail head, you take a gondelbahn to the top of 'Bettmerhorn' from Bettmeralp, which is very close to where this photo was taken. Or you could ride up if you were feeling manly. Smile
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flag bananowy (Apr 12, 2010 at 8:16) (Below Threshold)
 ok, thx for the info mate Smile I just checked and the glacier express only goes between St Moritz and Zermatt. I guess the cranking-up option sounds tempting Razz
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 Coil forks and shocks get really slow rebound once you hit -20 celcius, and air sprung forks and shocks blow their seals at -25 or lower. Hyraulic brakes are worse, the oil gets so thick that at -15 celcius, they begin to retract slowly, and at -25 celcius they barely retract at all, and at -30 or lower, you almost lose the ability to pull the brake lever.
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 Uhh, someone obviously didin't pay attention on chemistry lessons, how could the fork oil freeze? Also, I've only ridden at max -10*C, but under 5*C the coil springs get much harder, didin't notice any difference with the air spring.
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 Rider from Fairbanks, Alaska here.

I just went through my first winter here where it got down to -40º in December. At those temperatures my (coil w/ oil dampening) fork and rear coil shock locked up (presumably because I hucked it off a 1m ledge at those temperatures). My mechanical disk brakes did well, but were useless because at those temperatures the hardened tires become slick on bare pavement.

I brought my bike in to warm up to see what was up with the forks and they didn't seem to unlock themselves after a few days of thawing. I rebuilt them and put some 5wt oil (instead of 15) in and now they seem to work fine at -30ºC. I never actually figured out what locked them up in the first place, even after thawing.

One interesting effect I did notice is now that it is warmer, both my front and rear coils seem quite a bit softer. It makes for a nicer ride on smooth trails, but it is absolutely hell when landing any jumps when the fork bottoms out.
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 They're softer because you changed the oil for a less dense one.
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flag eurolit3 (Apr 12, 2010 at 12:01) (Below Threshold)
 VOD
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 that is literally breathtaking. straight up amazing
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 I don't care I think it's an amazing pic but it just boring. I'll get neg props but that's my opinion.
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 WTF???
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 TAKE ME THERE!
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 Finally a GOOD POD choice by pinkbike
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 They are not softer because of the less dense oil, as the oil doesn't 'affect' the spring rate of low speed compressions. It is the affect the cold has on the crystal structure of the metal that lowers the spring rate when the metal is warmed up again.
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 i love a good 'ol linoleum knife.
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 Less dense oil in the cardridges/spring chamber makes the fork softer, been there done that.
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 There's no way you'd notice the difference in stiffness of the springs. The Young's Modulus (basically a way of measuring stiffness of a material) barely changes in the temperature variations you'd experience (Say, between -30 and +30 Celsius, or -22 and +86 Fahrenheit);

docs.engineeringtoolbox.com/documents/773/metal-modulus-elasticity.png

If there is a real difference it would be down to the oil.
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 Good point bighitali, I thought that such small temperature amplitudes aren't enough to change the metal's structure so much, to actually soften the springs, but I had no way to prove it.
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 Demn people... to summarize some good points up there: how difficult it is to understand that every fluid gets more solid when the temperature goes down? Both oil and grease! If ti gets more solid, then harder it is for it to pass through valves.

So if you are a performance lover, then just before the winter, change oil to 5 or 2,5 especialy in the shock where valving has much smaller openings for oil to pas through. Then if you are a performance nutter: change also the grease in the hubs to a less dense one. I know road bikers doing it.

If you own an air fork or shock you might also want to change the grease - but ask your self whether ou really want to go through all that crap if these changes dont fit your service schedule.

BigHit Ali explained well enough I believe that metal has nothing to do with it.

And stuff about freezing: send a notice to some Department responsible for Education and ask for a million refund as your education has been slowed down due to outrageous inability of your school to teach the absolute fundamentals of physics. You also feel handicapped from that fact as other users of a simple internet forum seem to dig these basics...

P.S. Im aggressive and I want to end up this discussion cuz this thing is spamming my dashboard.
  • + 1
 wow, this was POD on my birthday... this pic is boring, but it looks cool
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 If you think about it,every POD is on someone's birthday,isn't it?
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 This picture tells it all: BIG MOUNTAIN BIKING. I am happy ot see sometimes this kind of pictures as they show mountains as the environment. For me it appears that biking community forgets that there is mountain in the mtb name. Its a bit too much burms, jumps sick rides, sick jumps talk - it's fun yes. I read so much about caring for trails, no build, no ride - it's important yes. What about the place where we build trails

But If we want to have the full right to use that environment, have trails there, we need to respect, appreciate and care for that environment - it is not only a difference of levels supposed to give us fun.

I would like people to think about that issue too.
  • + 12
 its ok Smile
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 it kinda looks photoshopped. prob not but kinda does.gd pic tho if it aint
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 I LIKE MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!
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 I LOVE MY country!!! C’mon give me the +props too… just sayin’…
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 You should love your country! You lucky basxxxx!
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 ooooooooh yeaaaah
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 agreed pod......one question though whats up with the ground down below???
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 +1
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 Definately POD this week. No doubt about it. Epic Scenery!!
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 Actually I had been quite disappointed because of the clouds. So I'm glad you like the photo nevertheless. ;-)

@SoulLeSS:
Do you mean the parallel stripes of ice and dark material? They form because three smaller glaciers converge 8 km before.
You can find information about the Aletsch Glacier here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aletsch_Glacier
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 ++ Awesome, I love to learn new things.
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 thanks for the info i have never seen anything like that before!!
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 If you go to google maps or if you have google earth, the overhead views are spectacular.
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 They're called medial moraines caused by streams atop the glacier and they deposit sediment. Hence the dark bands.
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 good job on making pod i knew it would make it
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 HOLY MOLEY!!!!! THAT's AMAZING!! it looks like the glacier carved out a bunch of jumps with landing all in a row.
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 Yeah that's indeed VOD,and it's what big mountain riding is all about,and in years time,like decades,it will still be the same situation,you can evolve a mountain bike,but you can,t evolve a mountain or a glacier,full props to the riders and photoghraghers,this is one of my VOD's since joining,pure EPIC.
Gary.Beer Cool tup Beer
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 nothing special!
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 I knew one day one of your photo would be a POD. Congratulations! Everyone should check the other photos in your album. They are also unbelievable (good wallpaper material) Smile Peace
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 beautiful picture. but holy shit do not fall off that thing.
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 photoshopped ...
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 look at the bloody glacier and then the green rocks at the bottom!
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 ok maybe its not but it bloody looks like it, can't blame me
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 oh yes we can...
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 i love how the PB community give me +19 props for being wrong ... Razz
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 thats coz were cool like that Wink
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 HOOOO NO!!

i live in this country and this picture is not photoshopped...
This site is listed as a UNESCO World Heritage

see more @ whc.unesco.org/fr/list/1037
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 @frozone427:
No problem! The pic does look a bit photoshopped because the foreground had been underexposed and I had to correct it afterwards. But there was no other way in order to display the bright reflecting snow of the sunlit mountains.
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 all those nice looking medial and lateral morains... and sweet looking glacial fracturing... What!? I'm supposed to comment on the biking part?!?
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 What an awesome spot for a picnic! Smile
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 This is one of the best photos on pink bike well done!!!
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 How can you fail to POD with a scenery like that. Riding is also about being there at the right moment. Cool.

Cheers
Beer
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 oh man... picture of the month!
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 Epic shot, awesome spot! SuperPOD!
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 Love the Glacier!!!! Def. worth POD!
  • + 3
 very nice pic. i love glaciers.
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 almost as pretty as scarlett johannson
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 OMS that is amazing
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 I noticed that being far from civilization prevents from feeling like risky riding in majority of occasions just to keep the equipment working and bringing the roamer home
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 now thats a POD
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 we all should give god thanx for that sh!t.....wow
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 This POD is ridiculously epic. Immense.
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 nice shot Smile Fantastic
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 what a nice shot... glad it got pod
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 very very very nice tup
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 the best pod i've seen so far!! its breath taking
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 best pod in a long time i think!
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 Everything in that picture is EPIC i love the scenery
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 thats a photo out of the MBUK calander
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 photo in the mbuk calander is same place but not the same photo,
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 awesome picture.For me the POD OF THIS MONTH AND THIS YEAR
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 it must be POD!!!
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 look this video jejeje www.pinkbike.com/video/132450
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 POD!!!!!!
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 thats just amazing pod!!!!!
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 its all about the place in some of the pods like this one.
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 Camera photography love Big Grin
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 wow, i've been here never really thought you could ever ride it,
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 Epic Pod, and i agree best one in ages Big Grin
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 no euan no its not it suks
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 What just cause he's not doing a jump, its stuning scenery you duche
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flag snaka-jack (Apr 12, 2010 at 14:37) (Below Threshold)
 ye fukin hell it is a BIKING website not a fukin scenery website is it !?!
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 nd u spelt douche wrong u DOUCHE!!
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 thats ice for you ,wow amazing to look at, POD for me
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 beuty, snazzy. lol
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 what he is that in low there?
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 Sick pic guys, wish I was there. This is one of those pics that just makes you want to get out there and ride!
  • + 0
 nice I am going to visit this place in June
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 Amazing pic! The glacier and mountains really provide an incredible scene. Epic definitely describes this picture.
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 surreal
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 captain kirks nipples thats amazing!!..Big Grin
i think this picture is similar to mbuk's 2010 calender picture of january.
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 what on earth is the white area?
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 every time i load the pb home page, i see this pic and smile. its epic! and definitely going to stay in my favs indefinitely
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 OOOOOOOMMMMMMFFFFFFFFGGGGGGGGG that is OFF THE HOOK ! wish i was there... what a breathtaking sight ! Smile
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 very nice photo
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 OMG ! Respect... Pod !
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 epic.... Big Grin
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 100% EPIC ...
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 super best foto, uau
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 WOW! Awesome!
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 fantastic shot.
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 Visual lunar!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 this is the chamonix glacier if i am not mistaken sick!!
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 he writes higher up: It's Aletsch Glacier, I think the biggest one in Europe, taking start at the south walls of Jungfrau group. Around 150km from Chamonix. Furthermore in Chamonix area you find smaller glaciers as they come down from north-western walls which in most of Alps are steeper than south walls.
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 EPIC
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 as epic as it gets
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 This is the definition of an "Epic Ride"
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 awsome tup
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 nicee!
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 WOW
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 Sick !!!!!
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 sweet PoD
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 simplement malade wow
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 nice pod
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 oh my god Big Grin mazing photo Razz
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 gddmm awesome .. nice pod this time Smile
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 whata fukin shyt!!! awesome
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 uffffffffff
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 one of the most epic shots i've ever seen on pinkbike!!
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 Props to POD!! Frozen in carbonite!
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 Imagine the lack of air up so high! looks like a SHweet trail man!
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 that is to awesome man!!! Wink congrats
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 i dont get that the stuff on the bottom is... clouds? water? mtns?
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 glacier
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 wowwwwwwwwwwwww amazing place... www.pinkbike.com/video/132450
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 beautiful so gald its POD
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 Epic!
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 what in the f*ck!!!!??
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 that is way to much comments
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 woah that looks like it's straight outta lord of the rings
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 VAST movieSmile
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 what if they fell off the cliff though?..Blank Stare
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 awesome POD! Big Grin
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 wow nice!!
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 E P I C
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 i like my COUNTRY TOO Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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 o yes!!! De aletsch gletscher isches oder??
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 Ja genau, Aletsh Gletsher...
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 Sweet Camera angle, it makes it look like it's a thousand miles down.( well it is Smile )
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 that is some sweet ass shit!!! deff POD!!!!!!!!!!!Big Grin
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 what a picture , i would ride along a flat path all day just looking at that glacier.
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 Nice picture^^
But nowadays if you're riding in a nice location and take a photo of it you are POD mmh i miss POD's where you can see the skill of the rider etc. Smile
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 super realy super Big Grin
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 finally a good POD. Now tomorrow, lets get some bmx shots.....
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 awesome!
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 That is an amazing POD xD.. What is that down below?
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 POD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 amazing
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 This is a Trail man Smile
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 i walk and dirt al there
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 amazing PIC
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 isn't that were they took one of the pics 4 the mbuk 2010 calender
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 nice rock paving on that trail
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 wow!!!!!!!!!!
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 look at the room for failiar that is crazy talk about living on the edge
  • + 0
 POD! so sicK!
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 Unreal POD. Way to go!
  • + 0
 dayumm that is SO cool!
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 Living the dream!
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 nice it´s swiss?
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 nice I am going to visit this place in June
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 Very Nice POD Dude ! Wink
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 Beauty Smile
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 Whos jumping first
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 A to the wesome
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 is that frozen water??
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 yah it's called a glacier,go back to school.WOW awsome pic it's a shame all these 12 year olds don't appreciate this all they want to see is some kid on a DJ.great photo.
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 No need to be an asshole, he just asked a question, i didnt quite know what it was either. so.
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 it says it's a glacier in the description,learn to read the descriptions before asking stupid questions.
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 is that the sky or a river cause thats so cool.
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 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAggGGGGGGGH 2012 we are dead
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 unreal!!!!!!!!!
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 great POD..nice picWink Smile
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 where is this ?
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 that is dope
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 Perfect
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