yess but this rack keeps the bikes front tires from hanging down and hitting the ground when climing rough steep roads and i just holds on the bikes much better they dont move at all and i could not have a bike pad cause it blocks my licence plate

 Fair shout.

 yea i was wonderen who that random kid was......he just jumped in the photo and made this weird face at me....kinda creeped me out..

 hahaha nice