this deserves props.

 I'm not the lightest person or the smoothest on a bike, but this frame has held up beautifully since I got it. That says something about the welds...

 im not one to talk about running sketchy (by opinion of others) parts but i found rattls's comment all too funny.

 I just got neg propped by Dartmoor.

Insecure much? Dartmoor, since I know you are reading this, be confident in your product, and trust it. If you are gonna be all pissy about it and get hurt from a meaningless comment, then by all means, do go on.

 Hes standing behind his product you tools! If you sell a product and someone insults it, your going to disagree with them because YOUR STANDING BEHIND YOUR PRODUCT! DURRRR. You guys are clearly uneducted in any business sense. Chirp dartmoor all you want, But any frame can snap or have some unaproving welds. Even NS's or another other brand, I mean who hasnt seen that 180 to flat on an NS sub that lead to a frame snap? Its not always about the company, but rather the rider. Go ride your bikes quit being trolls.

 Hataz gunna hate

 He probably just negative propped you for being an a*shole, completely unprovoked. f*ck off with this bullshit, why are you trying to antagonize a distributor in another country? Do you honestly think dartmoorbikes-canada is some kind of corporate monster intentionally peddling deathtraps? He's our god damn age, outrides all of us put together, does amazing things for his local scene, and still runs a tight business. What are you trying to prove here?

 Talk about exploding to mass proportions.

It was meant as a joke, I have seen about two Dartmoors cracked online, about 7 or 8 P.3s cracked, 2 of which CR took the pleasure of doing, and countless NS and Dobs. So.... I wasn't bashing on them, merely just rambling and teasing Teeple. I know Dartmoor-Canada outrides us, and it is the rider, not the frame most of the time. Hell...I just wouldn't get upset if people hate on Spesh. I know their frames hold up to big stuff, no one makes the perfect welds or the perfect frame. Everything breaks, so seeing all of you react that way for no reason, it's questionable. I wouldn't mind owning a Dartmoor, hell I was looking at a Shine when the Protos were out, and I probably would have gotten a Cody or something if I could get the right price. So if your gonna be all tough, get off your high horse and realize everything breaks. My point, no one is perfect, stand behind your company, and just do the right thing. Honestly though, I have seen Treks with worse welds than anything, enough for bubbles to form around the main weld that holds the h/t and tt. Huge company, shitty quality control, so for a small company like Dartmoor, I think they are doing a great job. All this hate for a comment that was unfinished. It could have been taken both ways if worded correctly. Wow, surprised at all this.

 PS. I have seen more cracked Spesh bikes than Dartmoors, I have seen more cracked Treks than Dartmoors, and I have seen more cracked Gary Fishers than all of those combined

 K w.e lets just end this PB debate.......

 Agreed


Dartmoorbikes-Canada...apologies to you for this misunderstandment.