Scott Roberts at World champs track in Champéry, Switzerland - photo by bortels

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Selected by Ian Hylands - The Champery 4X was a pretty gnarly track. It was nice to see people taking different lines and passing, but some of the lines ended up being a little bit sketchy. Not to mention that it looked super slick. The end result was more than a few spectacular crashes, such as this one...

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Album: various
Category: 4X/DS
Date Posted: Oct 31, 2011 at 10:42
Oct 31, 2011
Location: Champéry, Switzerland
Trail: World champs track
Riders: Scott Roberts

Photo details

Photo Size:

Camera

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Lens

EF70-200mm f/2.8L USM

Shutter Speed

1/500

Aperture

2.8

Focal Length

75.0 mm

ISO Speed

12800

Date

2011:09:01

Time

19:53:20

209 Comments

226 11

Laurence-CE (Oct 31, 2011 at 13:22)

"Hey check out this wicked handstand I can do"

185 7

nouser (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:01)

Leatt's for sale

48 121

zolibmx13 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:05) (Below Threshold)

hey guys check out my new brakedance moves

nice shot!

218 3

Taane (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:07)

yeah, i think im keeping my trusty flat pedals.

20 11

Toby-G (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:19)

I call it backflip - handstand... you like?

75 5

Draggon (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:23)

The new Yoga.....downward facing rider.

71 2

scottrallye (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:25)

So this pic isn't particularly artistic, but I have a feeling no one is going to bitch about the composition or emotional impact. You know why? Cause that is f*cking awesome.

5 74

andycreak123 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:53) (Below Threshold)

'Hey Check My New Broken Neck....... That Thing Looks Painful. :S

13 2

bannana0 (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:14)

where NOT to learn how to manual

joshdh (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:22)

leatt anyone?

85 5

EvilImp (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:29)

Look mom!
No hands!

*thud*

10 1

curto (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:37)

i still cant tell if he went over the bars and roller or if he has fallen backwards :/ seems more likely to fall backwards but does anyone know for sure ?

EddyDave (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:33)

Yeah i'm confused as to what happened!

TomMurphy (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:47)

Hmm... I wonder if this guy will stick to clips.

james4life (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:18)

how the f*ck did that happen?

RobbyBriers (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:41)

I think he went over bars on the rocks behind him and the flying weight of bike went over him and pulled him that way.

luke-glidewell (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:01)

i agree with RobbyBriers, looks like an over the bars crash. But it propably pulled him that way because of the clips.

Cain-bitches (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:07)

Over the barss probably. At warp speed. I bet he seriously shat it!

EddyDave (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:31)

If you got OTB don't you tend to go forwards...

Waldon83 (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:40)

Imagine he got it back . . . .

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dandy247 (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:55)

SCORPION!

fr3er1d3r (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:57)

how the f*ck?

Matthew233 (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:10)

this was my facial expression O.o - :O

jumpingman (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:18)

This is why I don't ride clip-less

hugslyh (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:40)

ouch... flats might make the ocassional trench in your shins but clips cause so much more pain!

xxslopestylerider9x (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:09)

ouch, wonder how that happened, hope that guys all right!

anyways, nice picture and an interesting one in that case because it doesnt use the typical pod picture with close to perfect balance and lines of composition. This one uses good a-symmetric balance which draws the eye towards the diagonal lines of the rider and the bike!Well done!

ziggyzuggy (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:44)

when pros crash they do it in styles

newfie-rides (Nov 5, 2011 at 7:50)

"man, my head is itchy"

jakeheath (Nov 5, 2011 at 8:19)

"nice to see people taking different lines ... some of the lines ended up being a little bit sketchy... end result was more than a few spectacular crashes" Last thing running through his mind 'well at least this is looking spectacular'!

adam686 (Nov 5, 2011 at 8:45)

looks like he was goin for some style points with a backflip but under rotated

marek4x (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:28)

I remember my first beer too - Dont drink and drive

bikeracer28 (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:04)

best backflip ive ever seen.

b4life (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:26)

There isnt much of a difference between clips and flats so i dont know why everyone says 'thats why I ride flats' or 'SPD Sucks' on these types of pictures...you feel the same pain when you fall clipped in as you do flats, you just come unclipped...its not a big difference

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nofootcanman (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:12)

he doesnt look very unclipped...

mortifiedpeguinz (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:24)

i'm pretty shure his hands are suposed to be where his feet are...

jamesxciv (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:03)

@mortifiedpeguinz, one on a pedal yer??? thats how everyone rides a bike...

dhabartrider11 (Nov 5, 2011 at 16:53)

Maybe its time to upgrade to full suspenion and move to flats

goosh (Nov 5, 2011 at 19:57)

Danger zone!

b4life (Nov 5, 2011 at 22:02)

This crash probably took only a second to occur and he's just entering the impact (btw this is @nofootcanman) which means his body is still in a straight position keeping him clipped to the pedal, but about mid impact (another half second or so) he will become unclipped.

t-limbert (Nov 5, 2011 at 22:59)

LOL, left foot is still clipped in!

Taane (Nov 6, 2011 at 0:27)

we have eyes...

joshdh (Nov 6, 2011 at 2:01)

arrgh! i hate it when people go on about flat pedals being better! when you get used to clips its just like riding flat! and yes your feet might not come out sometimes, but what difference does it make when you've crashed anyway? the race is lost... and clips dont make you crash anyway if anything they've helped me crash less you have more control over the bike. if clips are so bad in the eyes of you stubborn tunnel vision goons then why is it that the majority of the top 20 world cup riders use them...

RobbyBriers (Nov 6, 2011 at 4:21)

Exactly, Josh. Clips give more control and make climbing easier since you can pull your pedal up too when you can only push flats down (not that climbing was an issue here). The only downside is that pro's go so fast that sometimes it is nearly impossible for them to unclick in time. On the other hand, flats make it easier to style your whips and other tricks and you can bail quicker when you're about to, or, crashing.

b4life (Nov 6, 2011 at 9:59)

Thank you josh & robby...finally someone I can have stand by me and agree

adam686 (Nov 6, 2011 at 14:49)

i think he might already be unclipped his foot isnt in line with the pedal

b4life (Nov 6, 2011 at 16:10)

could be possible, but you do have a slight 'twist' ability when ur clipped in...if not he's just coming out of them

bikeracer28 (Nov 7, 2011 at 12:09)

yeah, that free movement before you become unclicked is call float. and you can get not float pedals or cleats.

thenegpropper (Nov 12, 2011 at 0:05)

NECKBRACE!

lozzerbiker (Dec 28, 2011 at 3:04)

look ma NO HANDS!!!!

mckenzie-dh (Mar 19, 2012 at 5:12)

hahah yes scott you mad man !

morocco-singletracks (Jul 6, 2015 at 12:18)

that's a front flip though!

35 2

adamlaycock (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:00)

That's an odd place to do a backflip lazyboy, don't you think?

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ryanlikesdritjumpdalot (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:35) (Below Threshold)

no its fricken perfect

gavlaa (Nov 5, 2011 at 8:49)

look mum no hands.... oh.... look mum no teeth....

25 3

punkaholic50 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:03)

in soviet russia...

justincs (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:11)

.........when installing wheelie bars be sure to tighten BOTH bolts...........

22 1

Joey-Propane (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:47)

... Bike flips you?

adam686 (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:09)

^^hahahahha

evilamish (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:24)

bike rides you

AlexW379 (Nov 5, 2011 at 20:44)

bike holds on to you

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bortels (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:20)

Hi guys !

thanks for the faves and the comments !

wanna know how it happened ? here is another picture of this crash :

nsa27.casimages.com/img/2011/11/05/111105112640465547.jpg

and the guy is ok :-)

Chris

scottrallye (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:18)

lol, I'm not sure I could pick which one is better. They are both awesome. It was pretty cool of that guy to do that for our entertainment, thanks for capturing it!

the13thing (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:31)

Know I understand what went wrong, thank you for that second photo of the crash and bortels, thank you for the spetacular photo, weird position to be in ^^

adam686 (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:13)

he did a full fucking front flip whaaaaaaaat!

gloryrida (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:30)

gotta video??

mrwhipp-e (Nov 5, 2011 at 21:12)

Shimano shoes, Now there's your problem

Matt-W (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:12)

Dont worry he's still clipped in, he can ride it out!

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njdfan101 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:04)

I think he got a bit AHEAD of himself

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nouser (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:21)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc

RideFree420 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:28)

HAHA!............. Random boyo

baca262 (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:00)

shockabahala - nice one!

yeah-nah-yeah (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:33)

c'mon UCI, you're gonna take away that!?!

freeriderayward (Nov 5, 2011 at 14:29)

^ THIS ^

dombordin (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:02)

how does that even happen

chromednipples (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:59)

This more commonly known as 'arse over tit' it looks pretty painful though whatever you want to call it..

justincs (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:04)

I was gonna say ' ass over teakettle !'

doubledeuce (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:55)

STOP! Hammer time!

ewalton20 (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:58)

He is going to be feeling it in the morning that looks painful and I would never ride clips for downhhill because I would somehow ending up doing something like this....poor guy

pingntodd (Nov 5, 2011 at 22:09)

what do clipless vs flats have to do with this .........they have nothing to do with the crash!!!!! is that why so many top World class DH'ers race in clips?? I would suggest Time pedals though over anything else out there!! stay far away from the flats......

Bulls-On-Parade (Oct 31, 2011 at 11:58)

clip flip!

charleyboy14 (Oct 31, 2011 at 13:41)

Fucking sick capture

mikebike69 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:10)

The one reason why im still running flats

evilamish (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:04)

Same here

daveydill (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:11)

Great shot. Couldn't have timed the photo any better, he'll need a beer after that...

ashdamash (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:41)

How did he manage that?? Can't figure it out at all, strange how ever since Leatt came out there seems to be a lot of pictures with people falling on there head haha

StixZadinia (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:19)

Please tell me there is a video of this somewhere?...i think he is thinking of Jimmy Hendrix....excuse me while i kiss the sky!

Ashcarlisle (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:28)

Was thinking about buying new pedals and clipping in but then again ill just stick to my flat pedals

uberbecks (Oct 31, 2011 at 23:24)

role reversal...

Snowdog85 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:29)

i'm sure at that moment he whiches not to have SPD's..

hemski69 (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:27)

i'm sure at that moment he wishes to be somewhere else...

iesubach (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:06)

And I'm sure he wishes that he knew that he wasn't running spd's

garylucas (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:35)

that is ganna hurt in the morning son. Gringo.

RootRider (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:36)

go street dance, B-boy!!!

fuore51 (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:22)

That's the reason why I will never ride with clips

dirtman04 (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:15)

not the jumps id choose to back flip but if you feel like you can pull it off go ahead

Ogalosh (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:17)

This guy has quite a unique riding style.

maxriding (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:02)

lol this looks like yoga with a DH bike its the new streching progam for professional racers

freeriderayward (Nov 5, 2011 at 14:27)

Sillies! He is coming towards the camera, and has looped out a manual. No otb I say.

samdagoalie17 (Nov 5, 2011 at 14:43)

it is pretty hard to backflip without a jump

MTB-max-Xx (Nov 5, 2011 at 16:22)

c sa que sa fait des clips ... tu reste pogner quand té mal pris xD

AFRO-MAN (Nov 5, 2011 at 22:37)

he gives sticking the landing a hole new meaning

scrippsranchDJ (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:05)

Owwww getting scorpioned by your own bike

nouser (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:10)

Falling in a way that's possible; You're doing it wrong.

octalex1 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:14)

The last 3 pods have been quite odd...

kwilliams420 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:49)

True, but I don't mind them all. Kind of a nice change up.

gasman (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:32)

no, no, NO. THIS is how you do it...

brett7 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:35)

Right the is why I wear my DBX!!!

Hadderzzz (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:42)

It takes skill to be able to fall like that!

nzhucker (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:56)

fark he's still clipped in aswell

MedellinColombiaDH (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:55)

we all know that french people are crazy...

Waldon83 (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:43)

You know he's wearing a British jersey . . . . right ?

MedellinColombiaDH (Nov 12, 2011 at 4:05)

you know im an ignorant and i thought it was the french one....right?

Waldon83 (Nov 15, 2011 at 12:59)

No actually . . . . I didn't

Mongooselewie (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:22)

ouch thats gonna sting like a bitch does anyone know how he did that

policemanjim (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:57)

Scott Roberts is the rider.

boot (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:44)

Maybe he can still ride it out?

lozzerbiker (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:07)

back flip or front flip??????

dirt4fun (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:19)

This is how not do to a weely!

oli345 (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:35)

GOD DAM IT YOUR DOING IT WRONG

DIRTFACTORY (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:47)

Just a backflip, don't worry...

blackpegasus (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:55)

WTF..................Dassss...............

djbruno (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:00)

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

jakeaylward (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:59)

tbh i thought it was a downhill track not a 4x

gizmogunner (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:18)

spd,s (satans pedal design) strikes again

iesubach (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:05)

Hes not running spd's.......

gizmogunner (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:14)

look carefully he is running spd,s look in the mid sole of his shoe and the middle of the pedal

spartanskill (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:15)

They are the crank bros pedals (mallet) spd is shimano! Different clip system

gizmogunner (Nov 6, 2011 at 10:53)

meh all the same to me they all cause some pretty painful crashes

richierocket (Nov 5, 2011 at 7:06)

Booyakacha! That sucks....

kellenj531 (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:01)

clips make lazyboy backflips way harder it seems like....

zackjackattack007 (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:14)

He should of just bought a unicycle!

wisman (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:56)

the look is not soo good . because its dangeressssssssss.

lilrcloni (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:26)

how do you even get to this point?

evilamish (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:07)

He was not able to ballout

pheonix-up (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:21)

New career...4x breakdancing

rafa95 (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:39)

SICK!!! No Hand One Foot Manual

jbeglaw (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:55)

EPIC DOUBLE PITS TO CHESTY FAIL!

nickheaslett (Nov 5, 2011 at 16:30)

First person to get a picture of an attempted back flip on flat ground.

epavichthesavage (Nov 5, 2011 at 16:35)

*gives leatt brace big hug*

Dud3 (Nov 5, 2011 at 17:28)

Break Dance Biking! I knew it was only a matter of time.

LeoGinailhac (Nov 5, 2011 at 17:31)

backflip indian air - ça va t'enchaine bien les POD

bobby-owen (Nov 5, 2011 at 17:42)

hes a pro............. crasher

jgottya1 (Nov 5, 2011 at 19:38)

I wish I had a Leatt !!!!

Tait425 (Nov 5, 2011 at 20:00)

tricks these days...

payton4specialized (Nov 5, 2011 at 20:44)

COD??? Crash of the day??

mcarswell (Nov 5, 2011 at 22:13)

damn,does anyone know if dudes ok? doesnt look good.

joelbrosas (Nov 5, 2011 at 23:42)

Backflip done too early...!

dwnhillkingz (Feb 13, 2012 at 7:58)

haha this fellas in the gym peforming handstands!

dillonchamberlain (Feb 15, 2012 at 10:15)

stewart from mad tv? look what i can do! *twitch*

dirtjumper771 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:01)

ow. i can feel the pain from here

jhb11 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:01)

Ouch

ragdoll (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:04)

ooooh that looks painful

toefungus (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:05)

Awesome POD

hempinio (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:02)

Thats why spd is crap idea in DH

iesubach (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:05)

Lucky he's riding mallets.........

Jess93 (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:11)

Lucky its 4X not DH too...

iesubach (Nov 6, 2011 at 23:50)

I know, but I got fed up of putting that everywhere, so I just did the nitpick

caste1200 (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:47)

champery.

Peanutthenut (Nov 5, 2011 at 4:40)

lazy boy wheelie

nakedracing (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:48)

The rider in the photo is Scott Roberts and you follow him on twitter @54scotty54

jonasF (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:16)

thats what you call a gay flip, accidental half back flip

evilamish (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:59)

I hope his ankles are ok

ebobc (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:06)

how is that possible?

WonderAnt10 (Nov 5, 2011 at 15:50)

...Ouch!

scallene (Nov 5, 2011 at 18:13)

look at me a wheelie

TheDude123 (Nov 5, 2011 at 18:18)

HEAD STAND!!!!!!!

FitSky (Nov 5, 2011 at 20:51)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

FitSky (Nov 5, 2011 at 20:52)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FUyu3csPq0&feature=related

NathanSaunders (Nov 6, 2011 at 1:13)

full on lazy boy manule

hlbo (Nov 6, 2011 at 3:35)

auchhh

andycreak123 (Nov 6, 2011 at 11:51)

MBUKrules (Nov 27, 2011 at 12:31)

Pat CJ?

doniwang (Nov 29, 2011 at 21:46)

i like

samdagoalie17 (Dec 13, 2011 at 16:55)

ahh clipons

scottvt (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:01)

Umm, ouch!

outhouse (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:02)

Manual + Clips =

andreim (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:07)

Good shot.

cbyrd3 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:13)

that is unfortunat

nouser (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:29)

That's ganna leave mark

Ridingtilldawn (Nov 5, 2011 at 1:27)

He is ahead of himself!

kassu95 (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:39)

Fail

mikaelpartti (Nov 5, 2011 at 2:51)

thats sad

Woodstock8 (Nov 5, 2011 at 5:14)

scorpion

diogodavinha (Nov 5, 2011 at 6:26)

Invert! sick pod!

LuizF (Nov 5, 2011 at 7:16)

break dance haha

jesus360nohands (Nov 5, 2011 at 8:15)

backflip lazy boy

onegoldenbear (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:03)

bad news bears

nouser (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:06)

SPD fail

iesubach (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:07)

They're not spd's.......

haroman666 (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:59)

You're doing it wrong.

dhfrvitor (Nov 5, 2011 at 8:28)

Wath a hell? D:

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azrider1 (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:39)

FLATS, FLATS, FLATS, FLAAAAAAATS!!!!!!! Sorry, but clipless doesn't make you faster in downhill!!

iesubach (Nov 5, 2011 at 10:03)

Sorry but he's not riding downhill....... he's riding 4x, where every pedal stroke counts, and the quickest out of the gate usually wins..... and clips make some people faster in DH, infact most pro's ride clips for DH. Why? For fun? In DH it's more of a personal prefarence thing, but it's still the fastest for most riders.

evilamish (Nov 5, 2011 at 12:32) (Below Threshold)

Iesubach Is one of your legs slower then the other

ace169 (Nov 5, 2011 at 14:02)

evilamish....grow a working brain please, and stop talking sh1t about things you dont know about.

Camoguy1 (Nov 5, 2011 at 15:48)

You people need to look at fivetens.... clipped in feeling without the retardedness of clips. It prevents things like the above photo from happening.

iesubach (Nov 8, 2011 at 13:23)

I run 510s sometimes and clips other times, and they are nothing similar! With 5,10s your feet are solid to the pedal, but can still get bounced off through rock gardens etc. Also fivetens don't held accelaration, as if you pull up your feet come off the pedals, and therefor same with efficiency and bike control. Clips however alow your feet to move freely for a ceirtain amount (the float) giving a feeling of standing on pedals made of ice, however the added accelaration and control wins over for four cross. Also this guy's riding at the world champs, therefor I think he's looked at five tens, and decided for clips.

seasonfreerider (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:34)

thats why you don't clip in.... should have known

lumpy12 (Nov 17, 2011 at 16:08)

idiot^?

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na00 (Oct 31, 2011 at 10:50)

wear a helmet.

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punkaholic50 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:03)

he is?

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Worm-Burner (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:21)

Did he go on to win?

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RideFree420 (Nov 5, 2011 at 0:27)

sometimes i like to do helmate stands in the middle of races too, dont worrie about it...

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baca262 (Nov 5, 2011 at 3:05)

lol damn you kiddies are stupid (if you're not a kid, even worse). if the guy wrote "this is why you wear a helmet" he'd get a shitload of props but this way you obviously can't figure out what he meant with that statement. too many crashes without a helmet, eh?

bathman (Nov 5, 2011 at 9:30)

lazy boy!! more and more moto tricks all the time!

meandmybike48 (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:00)

I can't believe these people. Spend thousands of dollars sometimes two figures for a bike but cannot invest $$ to save their necks.
I do not understand the logic.
Safety first should be regulated especially to a sport like DH etc.... etc.... braces are not cheap but somebody should make an effort to be affordable if u can't afford one or at least pay half of it and half will be a donation from a manufacturer. There's a lot of ways but i guess money talks and u know what walks. Exact same process for a car seat. There's organization that will give you a free car seat if you cannot afford one.
This will save anybody having a horrific crash like my role model and mentor Tara Llane.
My two cents. Cheers!

lumpy12 (Nov 5, 2011 at 11:17)

lazyboy frontflip!

pabloxxl (Nov 5, 2011 at 13:24)

I think He is trying two sport disciplines on trail "4X & Kung fu" :-D .
Doing very well bro....(Just like my-self, just alike.....,hm...)

cloverleaf (Nov 5, 2011 at 15:43)

@meandmybike48 - Please don't take this the wrong way but I am thankful that the use of these in races is still a personal choice and, should there ever be races that require their compulsory use then I for one won't be attending them. For those who choose to ride in them it's great that they take their safety seriously and I am fully supportive of kids etc wearing them. However, I know that I and others very much struggle to ride in them. It's not for want of trying, it's just that if you move your neck a lot when riding (as I do) a neck brace by their very design limits that movement. As a consequence I ride badly and have far more issues with than without. Things like this should be down to the choice of the individual rider and those not wearing them (or wearing them, I notice people have issue with that too) should not be derided and should not be branded idiotic/stupid/lacking in common sense etc.

It is not an issue of money, common sense or a lack of a desire to protect ones-self, it is instead a matter of comfort, and how it integrates into that persons body movements on a bike. There is also the matter of when you wear it - I know that I ride the exact same trails on my AM bike in an open face helmet that I also ride on my DH bike with full face. Do I suddenly start wearing a full face for AM riding? Do I not wear a brace on these trails and instead only on bigger tracks? This should absolutely be for the rider to make their choice on and not down to the bystanders and race organisers etc to push upon them.