Louis Hamilton's Commencal Furious Bike Check

Mar 31, 2017 at 18:15
by AJ Barlas  
Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check

Louis Hamilton's Commencal Furious

On the washout day early in the week of Crankworx Rotorua, Louis Hamilton of New Zealand found himself suddenly being mobbed in the pits. The reason; he was walking around with one of Commencal's new Furious model bikes. Louis had a pretty interesting mix of components from across several brands, especially where his drivetrain is involved, but the frame itself was what got people worked up, given that it's not been seen in the wild much, if at all. Not having a specific drivetrain sponsor has allowed Louis to run a mix of components that he likes in this area and the bike was running on Fox suspension front and rear.

Louis was really enjoying the ride and noted that the 200mm of rear wheel travel felt like more, thanks to the progressive nature of the rear suspension. He had the Fox 40 up front set to 200mm and found that it was a great setup for the bike.

• Commencal Furious, 27.5" wheels
• 200mm Fox 40
• Fox Float X2 – 200mm travel
• Spank bar/stem combo
• Avid Code R brakes
• SDG I-Beam seat and post
• E*Thirteen LG1 Crankset
• Saint derailleur / SRAM 7 speed DH cassette
• Spank Spike 33 Race Wheels
• Maxxis Tires (Minion DHF / DHR here)
Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check

Louis Hamilton's Stats

Height – 6'1"
Weight – 85kg / 187lbs
Riding Style – "Racer." Smooth, calculated, and willing to get a little wild when it happens

The Bike Details

• Frame Size – Large
• Tire choice/size – Front Maxxis Minion Maxxgrip 2.5 / Minion DHR Supertacky 2.4
• Tire pressures – Front 24psi / Rear 27psi
• Wheelsize – 27.5"

• Travel Front 200mm / Rear 200mm
• Pressures – Front 78psi / Rear 200psi
• Damper settings – Front: LSC 20 out (26 = wide open), HSC 14 out (22 = wide open), Rebound 6 out (9 = wide open)
• Rear: Still working on it
• Volume adjustment – 2 front / 2 rear
• Bar height – Slammed, 30mm rise bars
• Roll – Rolled a little forward of his fork/head angle
• Bar width – 780mm
• Stem length – 50mm

• Saddle position – Back from center
• Tilt – Layed back

• Brake lever position – Neutral/average
• Lever throw – Less than average throw quick bite
• Rotor size – 203mm front and rear
• Chainring/Cranks – 36t ring on 170mm cranks

Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check
Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check
Louis' brake levers are set pretty neutral. Lever reach a little longer.
Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check
Shimano pedals, Minion DHR rear tire.

Any customizations or peculiarities?
• The bike comes with moto-foam for under the shock
• It also comes with a new rubber chainstay protector that Commencal will be using on a range of their bikes. It's far softer than regular protectors and really dampens out the sound.
• Louis really likes how progressive the Furious is. He finds it hard to believe it's 200mm of travel and not more.

Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check
The new, softer rubber chainstay protector.
Louis Hamilton Commencal Furious Bike Check
Commencal is providing moto-foam with the Furious bikes too.



  • 107 19
 When YT forgets to wear a condom
  • 20 60
flag burnadette (Apr 7, 2017 at 11:53) (Below Threshold)
 YT Hit the mark with the Tuesday. Now all the other smart companies are reading the design trend and adding it to their development... Design sells, but not without function.
  • 78 6
 @burnadette: Tues, not Tuesday - 'Tu es' means 'Do it' in German.
  • 26 4
 @NickB01: I thought it was the plural of Theraputic Use Exemption (TUE). Sorry... Roadie joke
  • 37 6
 It looks nothing like a YT, I'm not sure you actually know what a Tues looks like.
  • 7 22
flag mazze (Apr 7, 2017 at 15:52) (Below Threshold)
 @src248: Yeah no it doesn't look like a YT Furious at all... wait what?
  • 15 3
 @mazze: Those don't line up at all though.
  • 12 2
 All the people saying it looks like a YT.. You do know the Furious has been around aboot 10years longer than the Tu es.. Right... Or Any other bike with a similar silhouette. This is just an updated front end for the Furious Also if you really know anything aboot frame desighn you'll know they are nothing alike
  • 6 1
 Never forget.
  • 6 7
 @nojzilla: lol I know the old furious very well... my girlfriend rode it for years and the new one doesn't look anything like it at all. You don't know what you're talking about m8.
@src248: I took 2 random pictures in different resolutions and taken from different angles... if you need a tip, look at the tires. Otherwise they would align pretty much PERFECTLY. Bring on the neg props I don't give a shit.
Btw the comment alone (with 55 upvotes) suggests, that it obviously looks like a YT. LOL
You need to have your eyes fixed.. or brains. But whatever, I'm outta here. Have fun with your sophisticated discussion about frame design.
  • 2 2
 @mazze: I also know the old Furious very well.... I Rode one for 5 years...
Look at the chain stay and main pivot point, identical (apart from the wheel size) faux bar seat stay near identical, shock placement and linkage placement, almost identical but worked into a new front end with a longer shock, hence more travel
Let's look at a YT.... Four bar pivots with completey different linkage tune etc etc
Ynow what I can't be bothered.......
  • 3 4
 @nojzilla: Ah so now you are talking about linkage tune, which has exactly nothing to do with the eyecatching similarities of the frames? You're correct, the only design difference is the pivot point position, just enough that it can't be called a Horst Link with its rear pivot on the seatstay rather than on the chainstay. It still uses the same principles, though.
However, as far as the shock mount, shock position and main pivot point are concerned, you are totally lying. They are actually way closer to the Tues than to the old furious, which had its main pivot point located at the downtube wayyy in front of the bottom bracket. Now it's located at the seat tube like, surprise surprise, with the YT. So far the technicalities... But you know as well as I do, that the argument was about the overall shape of the frame. Nice try though.
  • 2 3
 @mazze: seriously? Are you blind? Or just stupid enough that you'd talk shit just to make a point on the Internet..........

The bikes are NOTHING alike
  • 2 1
 @NickB01: I didnt get that far into the company's naming convention... Sorry for looking foolish, but you cant really expect an ignorant american to assume that the name is german for "do it," rather than the 3rd day of the week, my bad. Im an uncultured pig right?

and @src248, yeah, im pretty sure the swing arm and the rear end geometry looks similar enough to the TuES to make them appear as though they are sharing some design language...
  • 2 1
 @mazze: "the old furious, which had its main pivot point located at the downtube wayyy in front of the bottom bracket. Now it's located at the seat tube like, surprise surprise, with the YT."

You do have eyes yeah? So you can see that the seat tube on the new Furious connects "wayyy in front" of the bb, compared to the old Furious that had a straight seat tube. So main pivot on both biked are identical it's the seat tube that's different

Care to point out how I'm a liar????
Calling you out bitch
  • 2 1
 @nojzilla: stern, but fair.
  • 2 0
 @NickB01: "Tu es" means "you are" in French....
  • 1 0
 @burnadette: Tuesday is the 2nd not 3rd day of the week in Germany bye the way !
  • 1 0
 @Matt115lamb: Naming convention and calendar issues aside, I still think that bike B Looks Like bike A.
  • 1 1
 @nojzilla: I explained it to you once, maybe you need to read it twice for it to sink in. The main pivot was on the downtube on the old furious, now it is - just like the YT - on the seat tube. Whether it is slightly in front or back of the bottom bracket is insignificant. In fact it had to be in front to still feature the faux bar and forego the Horst Link. That alone more than proves my point that it's looking closer to the TUES than to its older sibling.
Sure I have eyes... but do you have a properly functioning brain? Let me explain it one last time for you:
I never said the linkage design was the same (actually quite the opposite as I said that this was the only difference between the two) BUT the FRAME LOOKS the same. And you actually just proved that very point for me with your argument about the seat tube. Thank you.
Oh and you are calling me out a bitch over the internet? You must be one tough son of a bitch then... LOL.
That's real class from a 42 old gentleman. Go back to riding your pink commencal, fanboy f*ggot.
  • 2 0
 @burnadette: The wheel is come full circle : I am here ! King Lear Wink
  • 1 1
 @mazze: I'm calling you out on how I'm a liar????

f*ggot??? Keep it up homophobe
  • 1 0
  • 1 0
 @achemdog: your caps lock is on dude
  • 26 0
 Am I the only one that would like to see sag % front and rear in the bikechecks? It would tell more about the setup than pressures, with all the different shocks and frames...
Nice bike btw, and good work pinkbike on all the details like bar roll etc.
  • 8 0
 Its seems like most of these racers don't pay attention to sag % so may not be able to give that figure. See Remy's appearance on the last Vorsprung Tuesday Tune
  • 28 0
 Will try and provide this for you where we can for future ones in this format.
  • 4 17
flag Dhsteez (Apr 7, 2017 at 20:55) (Below Threshold)
 often times racers at this level run 0% sag so thats really not a good way to measure super top level racers
  • 2 0
 @AJBarlas: I'd really like to see some differences between race an FR tunes. Like coil/air wieghts an dial settings. As a rider who liked to ride the jumps as maybe a bit more than than DH gnar.. I'm finding it hard to get settings that are good for both. compression settings over coil wieght?
(maybe a good ask PB question Wink )

P.s I had a mk1 Furious an just traded up to supreme park, bit gutted now there's a mk2 Furious :/
  • 28 2
 Super clean! Bike and rider looks like one piece. Good luck with the new bike!
  • 23 0
 That's not Lewis Hamilton?
  • 3 0
 It's Lewis's brother equivalent for the DH World Cup UCI racing.
  • 10 0
 @femto505: unfortunately for him, he has not been romantically involved with Nicole from Pussycat Dolls, spanked and F1 car, made millions of dollars or smashed a load of cocaine in the recording studio with Pharrell.

Still, good dude though.
  • 1 0
 sounds fast and win race
  • 1 0
 @jaame: With Nico retirement, I was looking forward to Lewis and Nico battling it out on Formula 1 this season.
  • 2 0
 Louis is Lewis' brother from another mother.
  • 3 0
 @femto505: red vs silver will be much more entertaining.
  • 22 0
 Interesting, no chain guide at all...
  • 1 0
 Interesting note. Nobody rides without chain guide nowadays(usually with chainring guard)... Once I herd and opinion that with N/W chainring we don't need it but I disagree.
  • 10 0
 Here I was all set on the DH V4.2, until this thing surfaced! I love this new bike, just cant get use to that seat tube dangling down above the shock.
  • 8 1
 So is this a Supreme replacement? Or are they living side by side like they used to?
  • 11 0
 Side by side. Commencal seems to be billing the Supreme as a race only bike while the Furious is for the non-racer/freerider/park rat.
  • 7 1
 I wanna see a vital test comparing the v4.2 and this
  • 3 0
 A DH race plow V a FR jumper...
  • 3 1
 So he took 3mm of travel of the 40 and thinks it makes a huge difference? They keep mentioning 200m of travel like that's not the norm for a DH bike. If it was 160mm I guess it would make more sense. The V10 has more but almost no one uses it right?
  • 3 0
 These bike checks are awesome. I think you guys should go to whistler, grab a regular dude from the lift line, and do a bike check.
  • 5 2
 The shifter looks like a regular saint (10 spd) but the cassete is a sram 7 spd (11 spd spacing). Any info about that??
  • 7 2
 It's just a Shimano Saint derailleur and shifter limited to seven gears.
  • 6 0
 @AJBarlas: I think what he was trying to ask is how saint it able to work with the new 11 speed spacing of the X01 cassette using a 10 speed spaced shifter and derailleur?
  • 1 0
 Most likely the Sram GX DH 720 cassette 11-25T on standard Shimano spline freehub body. It's still 11 speed spacing though.
  • 4 0
 yess! cant get enough of these new detailed bike checks
  • 3 0
 That is drop dead gorgeous Big Grin
  • 1 0
 The angle of the picture creates the illusion that the air can valve will be making sweet love to the reservoir, that's a feature worth having.
  • 1 0
 My Nomad has full bespoke chainstay protection, which is very nice, but it is very noisy. I would love to get something like this. It looks super quiet.
  • 2 0
 Where's the Fox stealth stickers.
  • 3 0
 My next DH rig...
  • 1 0
 I need that rubberized chain guard, the hard plastic one on my v4.2 just scratches the frame
  • 2 1
 Very nice! Maybe i will go commencal for my next rig....
  • 1 0
 thats a good looking bike
  • 2 0
 Why the code Rs?
  • 1 0
 Codes have more power than guides.
  • 4 0
 To slow the bike down ?
  • 2 0
 Why not code's? I take it you've never used a pair or you wouldn't have asked that lol
  • 1 0
 @mhoshal @kitejumping Code Rs are the low end version of codes.
  • 1 0
 @DandelionDan: they also weigh less.
  • 3 0
 I think the only difference between code and code r is the contact pad adjustment (so prob lighter and less to go wrong I guess). I had code r and they were amazing. Now im stuck with rubbish guides
  • 2 0
 @DandelionDan: I know I own a pair and I also still have original code 5's and new codes and they all work awesome and nowhere near a low end version. Yes they are a little more cost friendly then the codes but definitely not low end!!
  • 1 0
 I want this bike! Even if it doesn't come 26.
  • 2 1
 What does the Moto Foam do under the shock?
  • 7 0
 Keeps dirt out.
  • 1 0
 Still has a dirt collection hole for the BB like the Meta.
  • 1 0
 I found a way around this, I cut up an old tube to go from the seat tube around the bottom link and attach to the down tube under the frame protecter with the bolt by cutting a small hole in it. To get it to stay on the down tube I used a zip tie. Doesn't even look bad.
  • 1 0
 I've had to do something similar for my Enduro so I believe it
  • 1 0
 Packed mine with foam
  • 3 2
 V4.2 for daddy racers, V3 for punters, this bad boy for the cool kids!
  • 1 0
 Lol. When I saw the title i thought of the F1 driver. Silly me.
  • 1 0
 I'm furious that I can't have one.
  • 1 0
 i wonder how quickly hes gonna hit a tree with those brakes.
  • 1 0
 looks like Has room for a 29 lol
  • 1 0
  • 1 0
 Sick bike!
  • 1 1
 why the mayority if riders are using Fox or RS?
  • 15 0
 Because they're the two biggest suspension brands that have budgets to sponsor many athletes also because they didn't become the biggest two companies by having crap products
  • 3 6
 @cjkj1999: it's not like i'm saying it's shit you know haha,i really respect those brands and i've ridden their suspensions and they are amazing. But sometimes i'd like to see different brands on the scene/the spot as famous as these two. You get the point bruh
  • 1 0
 Not to mention rs and fox are at the races to service you more so than others.
  • 1 0
 Me likey.
  • 1 0
 & the graphics are kinda bitchen! Will scope at SOC.
  • 1 0
  • 1 0
 really nice looking!!!!
  • 1 0
 tue many jokes

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